Don't Look Under the Internet

DLUTI 136 - Skinnybob/Ivan0135

January 15, 2024 Don't Look Under the Internet Season 1 Episode 136
DLUTI 136 - Skinnybob/Ivan0135
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Don't Look Under the Internet
DLUTI 136 - Skinnybob/Ivan0135
Jan 15, 2024 Season 1 Episode 136
Don't Look Under the Internet

Jason's not here this week because the midwest is frozen. So, Mike, Doug and Matt bring you ALIIIIIENNNNNSSS! What's the deal with this alien footage a user named ivan0135 uploaded to YouTube more than a decade ago?

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Jason's not here this week because the midwest is frozen. So, Mike, Doug and Matt bring you ALIIIIIENNNNNSSS! What's the deal with this alien footage a user named ivan0135 uploaded to YouTube more than a decade ago?

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Speaker 2:

Don't look under the internet. That man's pet a file. What, okay, you have any basis for that Are like supporting evidence.

Speaker 3:

Are we going to get sued for defamation? No, it's fine. He believes in freedom of speech.

Speaker 2:

So I can say that, yeah, he's a pet a file. Was he on the?

Speaker 4:

list.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know, but he did hang out with just Lane Maxwell. So, just that is a list of its own. Welcome everybody to don't look under the internet Internet horror comedy podcast hosted by three guys tonight who are not on Epstein's flight list, but the one that's not here totally was.

Speaker 3:

That's why Jason's not here, sorry.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's Doug, hi, that's Matt, and Jason is not here because he was discovered to be on Epstein's flight list, so we had to part ways, unfortunately.

Speaker 3:

Michael, get us out of here, please Move.

Speaker 2:

Get us off the island. All right, get us off the island. So we're going to go to a little old fashioned deludi housekeeping. There you go. We don't really have any today, but I still wanted to bring it up. So here's a little housekeeping. Go to patreoncom, slash deludi pod or deludicom. Become a member, because you get fun things.

Speaker 3:

I kind of like the way that rolled out of your mouth Come on, get fun things You're like a newbie song because you get become a member because you get fun things.

Speaker 2:

Squeezy.

Speaker 3:

Gives is a member.

Speaker 2:

Go see him.

Speaker 3:

Five members sitting on a website.

Speaker 2:

I remember four apart, six bucks apart, because they're not gay. Ten bucks apart, because they're not gay.

Speaker 4:

So I will say I just, I just went on to the patreon because I swore I thought I had saw like a patreon notification come through, but all I see is that St Nicholas canceled their membership.

Speaker 2:

What we shot it in the discord right now. He's in. He's in he's a fourth wall, not patreon. That's why.

Speaker 4:

Okay, cool, I wasn't sure I was about to put this man on blast in the pretty sure you get to the end of your month.

Speaker 3:

So if you cancel it doesn't take your role away immediately. Yeah.

Speaker 4:

Oh, I like that, I don't like it, that is that is it.

Speaker 1:

Take it away to that.

Speaker 2:

It's it. When it comes to housekeeping, didn't have anything, like I said, but you know, if you want to give a thing, that'd be really cool. Keep an eye on our patreon and our website coming up here soon. We're revamping a couple things because shit's strange and we're bad. We're doing it and we're doing it. We're going to redo things and it's going to be better and we're getting there. Please bear with it.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, no one can get their fucking shit together, is what that means.

Speaker 2:

It's just got so complicated so fast.

Speaker 4:

It's a baby. You know, sometimes a baby happens baby.

Speaker 2:

I think he was talking about baby.

Speaker 3:

but that works, you're saying the podcast is a baby. It is and it's all right?

Speaker 4:

No, I was talking specifically about Mike's.

Speaker 3:

We're believing everything on Mike's child, even though that's been months.

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 4:

She's the new scapegoat. We got to have a scapegoat. Yeah, exactly, oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

Can I get an Amelia like an Amelia trapezoid? Or wait, no, you're the trapezoid.

Speaker 4:

Can we get an Amelia rhombus? Yeah, can I get an Amelia rhombus.

Speaker 2:

How's she going to feel when she?

Speaker 3:

grows up later and like this is just what she was associated with, completely against her will.

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm glad you asked Matt, because today's sponsor better help with all that therapy.

Speaker 3:

Because Mike was your father.

Speaker 2:

You better help if you want an unreliable therapist and 10% off. I shouldn't say all these things because they might become a sponsor in the future and I won't turn down money because I'm a whore.

Speaker 3:

I heard it here first. Folks, you can't trust anything that we support. Yes.

Speaker 2:

No, you totally can, because we'll only give you the highest quality sponsors if we ever get any so liquid death Talking to you, yeah, seriously.

Speaker 4:

Please, what was that? You spotted grass that they sent us.

Speaker 2:

Oh shit, fucking mind, megamind, megamind.

Speaker 1:

Megamind.

Speaker 3:

That's a movie that's mine. Send those, by the way, po Box in the description.

Speaker 2:

Mushroom mind. Yeah, it was like mega Magical.

Speaker 1:

Magical, magic mind. Hey, I won't lie though.

Speaker 2:

I felt good taking those. I was very energetic. I do.

Speaker 4:

I still do still believe in that product, even though I still, I think I finally got rid of the like 30 I had in my fridge.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I would have taken those, I would have tried they were just old.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, even better, even more mad.

Speaker 4:

That's what it is. I don't know. They might actually still be in there. I don't even actually know.

Speaker 2:

I would still recommend that we're like a magic mind Give us more money.

Speaker 3:

We're like seven minutes into this recording what the fuck are we doing, talking about today, boys?

Speaker 4:

That was our housekeeping of the sponsors we no longer have or want to have.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Speaking of mega mind mega mind is a movie about a blue alien looking man.

Speaker 4:

And he kind of looks like Fuck me.

Speaker 2:

He kind of looks like a blue version of a gray. Now why would I bring that up? Do you think like he's from the Zeta reticuli system? That's strange. That's very strange. Why would I bring something like that up?

Speaker 4:

Project Serpo, part two everybody.

Speaker 3:

They'll say base for three.

Speaker 2:

I get to be called a clown again.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, this is going to upset more people. I really hope this. There are people who feel passionately about this, which oh, I am so ready for this.

Speaker 2:

There are, which is amazing.

Speaker 4:

Like so today. It was so God yeah, just yeah. Oh, by the way, I have no notes.

Speaker 3:

I don't think anybody else has any notes. If the bond, if you were that person that the bond skinny episode really upset, this is going to be so much worse to stop now.

Speaker 4:

We have set bond skinny people.

Speaker 2:

No, just one guy who's like uh, they don't know what they're talking about and they keep talking over each other, and this is never to do.

Speaker 3:

this is going to be worse.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 3:

For sure.

Speaker 2:

I got to say go fuck yourself, because we're talking about Ivan zero one, three five and it's very fun. So A little bit of a backstory on this guy. About 12 years ago on YouTube, ivan zero one, three five just flipped into existence. On the exact day that the account was made, ivan uploaded and we're just going to call him Ivan.

Speaker 3:

I'm not going to go. I think that's what everybody was involved in this mystery call. Yeah, I've been the news.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I've been the news. Sounds like a dope ass rap name. I'm not going to. I've been the news. I've been the news, um, but I've been uploaded on that same day of video and this video got some numbers in the long term not the most numbers, but some numbers, um, it's uploaded video called disclosure leaked UFO alien case video, confidential documents, old footage. It just rolls right off the tongue.

Speaker 2:

If you ask me Very good Now, yeah, now, what this guy is. They're very. There's only four videos on this channel. They're all very short. You can knock this out in literally five minutes, but it is some fascinating shit. Now, this tape that is the first video here, it seems like to me is like information that was leaked by the KGB, because you get a KGB, uh, cygnia in the beginning and you get what looks like a UFO flying over some buildings and it's all like on that old I don't know what to call it old film real style camera yeah.

Speaker 3:

And you hear like an analog or clunking it's an analog horror.

Speaker 2:

We're back, baby. And you, you see these UFOs and they're flying around, zipped, zapping around. And then you see our little gray boys, you see some little gray men and they're just kind of chilling.

Speaker 3:

And then you call them. I was going to say, man, he's my Raymond Rationally charged.

Speaker 2:

They are what they are to me, and they're gray men. Um, you see one just. You see one just kind of standing up, and you see another one as presumed dead.

Speaker 2:

So one standing up and then one's laying down, yeah, and then you see one on like a surgery table. It looks like, and that's the video. How fucking ominous is that shit we? This is like the, the stereotypical to me, like Roswell, alien dissection looking thing, you know, like the. The only other like reference I have to this is Futurama, when they go back in time and Zoidberg's being, uh, worked on. That is, I think, a reference to this, is it?

Speaker 3:

Or is it just a million other autopsy videos that?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah, like a specific autopsy video that circulated around the internet.

Speaker 2:

Like back in, like the early 2000s Wasn't that the one I choose to believe my thing.

Speaker 3:

Wasn't that the one that they claimed to be like an autopsy related to the fucking Roswell Roswell crowd?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah, I believe so.

Speaker 2:

Which didn't even take place in Roswell. What a what a fraud.

Speaker 3:

That's another video for another time.

Speaker 2:

We already covered that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, another time that was in the past.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, but you're already getting a taste of what we're looking at. Again, this is like a 45 second video but honestly looks pretty legit. This is legit. Look at shit, sorry, and I'm a hundred percent. I'm a hundred percent here for it, doug, you know you, I know you, you know me. We, some alien boys, oh yeah, I felt like this was right up my alley. I don't know about you.

Speaker 4:

Um, I like it. I wish there was more video like obviously.

Speaker 1:

Well they only got like anyone would yeah.

Speaker 4:

No, I, I, I understand, I, I just I want to see more of it.

Speaker 3:

Well, they claim that this is cut up out of like footage that they, I guess have, so I don't fully understand the background, or I don't think anybody fully understands the background context here. I guess Ivan apparently is some Russian guy who just got a hold of somehow this classified footage, because in the description of all of these videos and what is apparently going on here is that this is like a 47 second edit of tapes one, three and four 180.

Speaker 2:

That's what he says 180 minutes long.

Speaker 3:

Right, and it's just like so. I guess there's a bunch of this shit and that he cut out the best parts. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Who's to say yeah?

Speaker 4:

There's really no way to know.

Speaker 2:

In the description there is like I don't know what to call it other than like title cards for like what's going on, like the first couple seconds.

Speaker 2:

The first couple seconds, it is called Tin Bird, which it's referencing the UFO that is seen flying around. Then you get, like Blue Boys, which is on here, which is the first little image of the alien. I'm still going to call him Greyman. Then you also have Blue Boys meeting, which is the one where he's on the table Dead Z's and Dead Z's. They're calling this UFO the Tin Bird, which I kind of dig. I think that's kind of a fun name for UFO Tin Bird. It's better than, like right now, how we have the one that's like shaped like a tic-tac and they just call it like oh, it's the cigar UFO. No, because it looks more like a poopy than a cigar, if you ask me, a poopy.

Speaker 4:

It looks like a poopy.

Speaker 2:

You call this shit poop Is it fucking poopy dude.

Speaker 4:

Is that a fucking?

Speaker 2:

shit. That is just the first video, though it is.

Speaker 3:

What do you guys want to? Yeah, so the second video, bring up the other one. Mike mentioned that the first video is very convincing looking and actually it is like yeah, I don't know if and we'll get into this later I don't know if it's like practical effects, maybe it's real, but it is very convincing. The second video, however, is where it looks real.

Speaker 3:

The second video, however, is where people often draw their criticisms of this, and was the thing that immediately jumped out at me too. So the second video is a minute long and it opens with some title cards that are, I guess, providing like some background information about this whole thing. It says filtrate for declassification and dissemination through the internet and media and videotapes with material recorded between 1942 and 1969. Material containing UFO incidents, recovery and study of extraterrestrial life forms.

Speaker 2:

And the lack of commas and breathing really helps in these situations.

Speaker 3:

So this video contains a sample of edited fragments from videotape 5. Tape duration 180 minutes, and all this is is a gray, and this gray has a name that we'll talk about in a bit, but he's standing.

Speaker 1:

It's your boy.

Speaker 3:

It's your boy. He's standing, I guess, in what kind of looks like an interrogation room or something, and he's moving around and looking at the floor and then looks up at something else and reaches out and touches something and he's like blinking and the movements look. This looks like CG to me, but yeah, it's very.

Speaker 2:

It's like too fluid yeah.

Speaker 3:

I don't know how to explain it. Like the movements are weightless, the thing is like you, but you look at it and with like all the like tape, grain and shit that is going on, it's kind of difficult to make out whether this is a 3D model or not, but the way it moves kind of has that sort of feel to it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, which could just be how their anatomy is. I mean, they're lightweight creatures anyway. They're like three feet tall and hollow bones and shit.

Speaker 4:

I don't want to like bring up something that you're going to talk about, but there is a big discussion about that. I don't know if you were going to bring that up now or later.

Speaker 3:

I think we should talk about that when we get into the website. All right, that works, but yeah, that's basically. This whole video is like it's this thing standing in this interrogation room or like examination room or something, and it blinks at the camera a couple of times and then there's a shot of what appears to be like a I don't know a glass dish that has samples of something on it, I suppose, and then there's a timestamp at the bottom, which is also important, later, I think.

Speaker 2:

And that's the whole video. Yeah, these videos don't have like a huge amount going on in them, but it's just especially like you can sit here and be like, oh it's fake. It's obviously fake, but this was made 12 years ago.

Speaker 3:

So, yeah, that's the who really knows this thing about it, though, is like when you look at the movements in the 3D model. What I'm saying looks like a 3D model, though, and you think about the fact that this was just uploaded to a random YouTube channel in 2011. You start to question whether somebody, just like some random hoax hoaxer on the internet, would have the ability to animate something as well.

Speaker 2:

And the time.

Speaker 3:

And I guess we can talk about that more when we get to the website like part of what Doug was talking about.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it kind of it draws the question of, like what was the purpose of doing all of this? Like why did someone spend so much time potentially making this fake footage? If, like there's four videos, they lead nowhere. There's no like ARG element, there's no like weird cryptic, like follow the thing in the you know the comments description, like whatever, and it's quite literally nothing which is what makes this?

Speaker 3:

even more interesting.

Speaker 4:

Someone was just like bam, aliens, there you go, have fun, and like dipped out, I'm gonna leave, I'm a head out.

Speaker 3:

I'm a go now, but yeah, that's the end of the second video. Yeah, somebody else wants to talk about the third one.

Speaker 4:

I guess I'll. I'll sum up the third and the fourth for us. The third video is basically him yelling at people that made comments on the first two videos.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I'm not.

Speaker 4:

I'm not going to play your games, I'm not going to tell you where the source material is, where this is, who, who's involved, this and that, and basically just giving cryptic like maybe you're looking in the wrong direction.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I will say you're a fucking idiot, didn't really care for this guy being like uh, all this is real. I don't care what you think and I'm not going to give you any evidence to say otherwise. It's you that's giving out misinformation and you're believing misinformation, but I won't give you any information at all. His sources. Trust me, bro. Trust me.

Speaker 4:

I'm a guy yeah.

Speaker 3:

And the whole theme of everything he says is like if you don't believe it, you're stupid. And then he really likes to say things like you create your own misinformation.

Speaker 1:

Like I said the yeah.

Speaker 2:

And it's kind of. This is what kind of irks me, cause there's a lot of people that think this shit's real. There are a lot of people who think a lot of it, a lot of it looks very real, but then you get this where it's just like the guys just like fuck you If you don't think it's real. That's on you kind of adds to the debate that it is not real in my opinion, but I still want to believe.

Speaker 3:

The third video is also text over what appears to be a very high definition and a handprint.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's got very high definition. Yeah, it's got like. It's got like prints on it and shit Like yeah, it's, it's. It's very real looking and it's it's just a four fingered, three fingers and a thumb like very long ones, and it's yeah. Just what's the word I'm looking for? Unsettling a little bit, I would say it's the.

Speaker 4:

It's a human hand without an extra finger.

Speaker 3:

It's the dark brother had symbol, but they took the pinkie.

Speaker 2:

It's the black hand of Saruman, it's of the white hand.

Speaker 3:

But yeah, that's the whole thing, that's the whole fucking shit Yo.

Speaker 2:

What about the last video?

Speaker 4:

I know the last one's super simple but just like the other ones, it's a couple, you know it's a minute and a half long. We get some texts that just describes that they're. They were having these meetings in secrecy with these special, you know people, and by people they meant fucking aliens and that only like high ranking officials would be met with. And they wrote up this whole treaty. The treaty was called the 23-04 treaty and basically someone snuck in a video camera and got footage of them like walking with these aliens. They're just hanging, they're literally just like all, like walking somewhere. But, like you can tell, like whatever this is filmed on is zoomed in pretty hard. So I guess you know one of the little, one of the little gray men caught whoever was filming and basically they ended up having to revise the treaty because everything was supposed to be secret and yeah, he started like dead eyes this person filming.

Speaker 2:

wait a minute.

Speaker 4:

He gives them the fucking, the side eye bombastic side eyes Is that what the kids are saying, right? Now.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, two months ago. Jesus, fuck me but yeah, he really fucking.

Speaker 4:

he hits them with this real blurry eyed look that you can't really make out so that's pretty sweet.

Speaker 2:

Now there's a name. There's a name to this boy.

Speaker 4:

Skinny penis, it's your boy.

Speaker 3:

Skinny penis. Okay, so does the name just apply to the thing that shows up in the second video?

Speaker 4:

It doesn't apply to the family vacation video right?

Speaker 3:

No, the one thing I will say about family vacation before we move on is that the movements of these things are a lot more convincing than the movements in the second video.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, oh, 100%. Yeah, they look like these things are just casually walking around, and they did get caught on a camera that they didn't want to be caught on.

Speaker 4:

The thing that bugs me is they're not moving up and down when they walk, and I don't know if that's just the way it's filmed, but they look like they're just fucking like Blinding.

Speaker 2:

Well, they do have hollow bones, so maybe that's a.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's the same issue where there's a weightlessness to the movement. I think yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, anyhow. I mean, don't make fun of my boy like that. How dare you come at my boy like that Skinny penis.

Speaker 2:

My boy skinny penis? No, my boy. So we find out that one of the main grays here, I, was given the nickname Skinny Bob, and that is in the tapes. They name drop him as Skinny Bob, being the one that they've been basically talking with and essentially just working with like they're the governments. Go to boy. Now this last video did. He's our rotten soldier, our good time boy, our good time boy. Now, this last video did make me think of Project Serpa again, because that whole thing is about a treaty between the government and the EBS and this is like right up that exact same alley. So that code name for the treaty, what was it like? 26-9 or whatever the fuck it was. That could just be the treaty for the same treaty that they used in Project Serpa. I forgot the name of it, but that could just be the exact same treaty and we don't know. We're not given that kind of information in these videos.

Speaker 4:

So yeah, there's a lot of connections that you see right off the bat, like with Project Serpa, but also like the thing that I was Say it over Tickey Lai. Well, yep, that too. And then they say the blue boys, and that makes me think of like Project Blue Book and shit, and I don't know if they called them blue boys or not. I've never really looked into that.

Speaker 3:

But just like all the things I'm, you're a cop, okay, yeah, yeah, look at your fucking, look at your background yeah, you're fucking blue Blue. Oh fuck, back in the blue.

Speaker 2:

Deloody, no stop, no stop. You see Deloody out here says a cob. A cob, I say Slop on a cob.

Speaker 3:

I really derailed this with very simple and stupid joke you did.

Speaker 4:

You did anyway. It's just that easy. It's just that easy, it's just that easy.

Speaker 2:

We find out that his name is Skinny Bob, and I fucking love that name. If there was ever, if I were to ever get into porn, my porn name would be Skinny Bob, like it would have to be.

Speaker 3:

Okay. So, yeah, good silence after that one no.

Speaker 2:

Let it stew for a minute. I appreciate that.

Speaker 4:

But so I was pulling up a.

Speaker 2:

I pulled up.

Speaker 4:

Google. Just to Google Skinny Bob, just to see what I could find.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you're gonna get a bunch of this guy.

Speaker 4:

Well, I found a women's Skinny Bob alien v-neck t-shirt.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, deloody like Etsy and Amazon and shit. Yeah, it was pretty funny.

Speaker 3:

This person doesn't seem like they want themselves to be known, so do you think we can just take screen caps of this fuckingall these videos and just putpaste them on merch? Oh?

Speaker 2:

absolutely.

Speaker 4:

I would be okay with that. We'll change the name from 5135 to Best case scenario we make money.

Speaker 3:

Worst case scenario we find out who this guy is because he has to release his name in the court documents when he sues us, Best case scenario we get money.

Speaker 2:

Other best case scenario we docks Ivan 0135. Hell yeah, all right. So what is this? So people were so enamored with this that a website appeared.

Speaker 3:

People are still enamored with this Still. Well years ago.

Speaker 2:

And a website appeared for a boy, skinny Bob. You can go to SkinnyBobinfo. There's also redditcom.

Speaker 3:

That's our skinny Bob.

Speaker 2:

Yeah and oh boy, is there some content on there. It's basically just a giant I guess blog ofor message board of people that band together to be like oh, this shit's real. And look at all of this information. They're trying to likethey're trying to red string this Like they're likelike it's fucking Charlie from Always Sunny with Pepe Silvia. Like they tear down each video to the point where they're like oh, do you know this house? And they have like athey three render one of the houses in the video.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, there's so much fucking effort put into this.

Speaker 2:

I know, like they're trying to figure out where all this is happening, because you don't really know where any of this takes place. Like they assumed Ivan was Russian because of the name Ivan, but the way that he misspelled some of the tags in the description makes them think that he's from. Oh God, where was it? It's a Spanish-speaking country, I don't remember where, so they're like oh change it all.

Speaker 3:

They miss Portuguese at some point.

Speaker 4:

So it's either Portugal or Brazil. Oh no, portuguese fucking aliens yeah.

Speaker 3:

We're back at it, but there's 3D renderings of likeso they even go into, like, the architecture of the house that you see in the first video and they're like well, this is from the Southern United States, and then they start looking all over the US. There's alsothe thing I was most impressed with is there's an overhead shot in one of the videos where, like, you can see a UFO, but it's very clearly takenthe video is very clearly taken out of like a moving aircraft and someone has painstakingly 3D recreated the entire landscape that you can see in that video so that they can, like, try to figure out where this is located.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's some dedicated fans to this thing, and that just goes to show If you're an alien, you're fucking into aliens. There is no. This isn't just a hobby, this is your life. You are aliens. I wonder how many of these people are Mufo, mufo, you know Mufo? It's like an agency that you can sign up to be a part of it basically deals with UFO and alien anomalies and things like that. Is that that?

Speaker 3:

thing Basically, you become blue.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Tom DeLong.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you become an alien. You become fucking ex files, but you have no budget.

Speaker 4:

The budget is your own money, so what's the point of the agency?

Speaker 3:

It's called Mufo, just to give you some sort of yeah, mufo, that's it, some sort of made up credentials.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you get some sort of credential, but it does not help you. You can't go to a crime scene and be like, hey, I'm with Mufon, it's cool. No, they'll kick you away.

Speaker 4:

Just hold up your badge. You're like I'm a Mufon, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I'm with Mufon. Oh right, this way, sir, obviously, and a copy of no, that won't work.

Speaker 1:

Take off your pants and jacket.

Speaker 4:

I will say the hype on this is kind of crazy because 48 hours after the shit came out on YouTube there was already FX artists and people trying to debunk it, Like immediately, like it was all over the place, Like shit it even. It ends up on fucking coast to coast, yeah, yeah. Which is actually a pretty. I don't know if you guys listen to the whole thing, but it was pretty good actually.

Speaker 2:

I need to start listening more coast to coast. I have not listened to a single episode Space coast. Coast to coast.

Speaker 3:

Is that different?

Speaker 4:

Hell yeah, that's way better than coast to. That's way better than fart smell.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, there's just so much information on this. I highly recommend anyone listening watch the videos go on the website, because the amount of dedication to it is fucking incredible. I have seen like ARGs with less dedication.

Speaker 3:

Oh well, I mean, they've had 12 years to do this.

Speaker 2:

Right, and there's even a counter on the fucking website where they're like it's been this many days and years since the last bit of information was given, Well since that there's a counter of like.

Speaker 3:

it's been this long since these released and we still can't definitively debunk these as fake. Like the main takeaway from the website is the closest to actually being able to concretely say anything about these is fake that anybody's ever been able to get is that someone was able to locate the effects, like the film effects that are layered over top of the first video.

Speaker 2:

There's a few more things on there and I can actually go over some of that stuff too. I know a lot about this side of it. So there's a little YouTube channel called Corridor Crew and they're actually one of the biggest heads that actually went through and debunked a lot of information on these. Now, again, I'm going to use the term debunked relatively lightly, because a lot of people still think this is real Now the website itself.

Speaker 3:

Is that on the website or did you find that?

Speaker 2:

So they don't mention Corridor Crew. But if you go down the website enough, they have like this giant list of what is the website.

Speaker 4:

SkinnyBobinfo. It's like the URL, is it Okay?

Speaker 2:

Now I was reading the website earlier and I found a bunch of things on there and this is where I give them props as well, because they'll put on there like yeah. So we did find some VFX in the videos, like the film grain.

Speaker 1:

They mentioned how they they mentioned the KGB sign in the beginning of the first video is from a documentary.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they find there's some like after effects, like issues like what is it called? What's it called? You get like, when you start editing things and you upload it, you get like it's like a burnt copy in the background. Like if I were to edit something pretty heavy and I upload it wrong, like, let's say, a picture of Doug, for example, I'll get, if I fuck it up, I can get like a slight copy of Doug behind him that's like faded into the background. I forget what it's called. It's like digital something.

Speaker 2:

But they found evidence of that in there. That makes it seem like some of this is tampered with. Well, and the corridor crew guys ripped this thing into shreds, like they're like oh yeah, we found the film. They found the exact same film filter that was put on it. They found the exact same In the first one with the film reel sounds. They're like we found those exact same sounds. It's just an effect.

Speaker 2:

They found a bunch of stuff on it. They found out that it's artificial, like shaky cam that they use for a lot of these. Yeah, they found it, by the way, that it's edited and props to the website, because website puts all of this on there, and they're like yeah, we understand that this is on there, but look at all this other shit. This shit was uploaded 12 years ago, ain't? No way this is fake. But corridor crew, who was known for their digital effects and everything. They had the same mindset you did, matt. Where they're like. Yeah, these aliens are fake. They are 3D models and you can tell by how weightless they appear and by the movements that this thing is doing. They even tracked the blinking. The blinking was on a timer, essentially where the thing blinked. I think they found it was on a repetitive blinking timer where it blinked every three or four seconds or something. They basically broke it down to where they're like yeah, this is all VFX and it's all CG stuff. They tore it to shreds, but the community does not give a shit.

Speaker 3:

They're still like no, fuck you, this is real Well, okay, so I guess that's like going back to what I was saying about the only definitive thing that they found. Yes, you are right that they have these subjective things. I guess that they've identified as potential clues that this is CG, but even the shaky cam and stuff is not a specific filter. It's pretty obviously shaky cam, but there's nothing definitive. And someone was able to. It may have been Corridor Crew, because I only read the website, but someone was able to basically reproduce in After Effects the specific layers and effects that you might put on something in After Effects to make it look like this.

Speaker 2:

The other thing that yeah, corridor Crew did find those. They found the exact same film, real grain filter.

Speaker 3:

They also found that the timecodes at the bottom of the film were made up Right, yeah, because you wouldn't have timecodes in something from the 40s Like that just doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 4:

So, yeah, plus the font was like from 2006, like a Windows font.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, they also found dots with an RGB value. That apparently wasn't. That's what it was. They found these dots which are remains of a post-processing effect.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's what it was, that's what I was thinking of before. And so they do find all of these things. They found the debunked audio effects, all that shit. But again, like Part of me still wants to believe this is real, like, for all we know, this was heavily edited to make it seem less legit so we don't have the fucking FBI banging on Ivan's door or something.

Speaker 3:

Well, yeah, and that's the point they bring up on the website and I guess I'm still trying to defend what I was saying earlier but like the only thing, that, even with all those things, the only thing that we know for sure is that the footage from the first and second videos is edited, like that's the only thing you actually know. Based on those things, as far as I can tell from reading the website, there's been really no concrete like examples of someone being able to say that the actual footage that is underneath these effects is fake, because this- but why would you fake-?

Speaker 2:

why would you fake effects for footage if it's not for yourself?

Speaker 3:

Well, there's a whole fucking section of the website that lays that out. Mike, Reasons, reasons that you might Go ahead. Hold on, hold on.

Speaker 4:

I wish I would have gotten to read more of the website.

Speaker 2:

See, I love this about-.

Speaker 4:

I'm scrolling through it right now, but I'm so. The thing that I'm having trouble with with this whole thing is when I listen to the art bell, like clip that they so this guy fucking LA Marzulli, he calls in right and he's talking about his discussion with a guy named Bob Williams, an expert in special effects. Skinny Bob.

Speaker 3:

It's all kind of together.

Speaker 2:

It's him.

Speaker 1:

And basically and two people that have the name Robert before.

Speaker 4:

I will say this LA Marzulli guy is kind of a fuckhead as far as, like, his world views go so like.

Speaker 2:

We'll disregard that, just yeah he's also just a fucking-, just for the sake of things.

Speaker 4:

But this guy, bob Williams, basically goes, he goes. So you know you have this footage. And he talks about the grain and he's like watch it, you'll see the same grain every time. You know, flashes every couple seconds, whatever. Easy peasy, everybody knows it already, whatever. But he starts talking about how, like no person with a no person with a camera in their right fucking mind, if they're capturing footage of an alien, would point the camera towards the alien and then immediately remove the camera from the alien. Why would like nobody worth a damn with a camera in their hand would take two seconds of footage of an alien, right?

Speaker 2:

And like that kind of that struck me.

Speaker 4:

I mean, but the first video is-.

Speaker 2:

Keep in mind, though, these are snippets from 180 minutes worth of footage, so we haven't seen the full footage.

Speaker 4:

My cat is getting comfy. I don't know if you saw that, but that may have got comfy in the background.

Speaker 2:

Anyways, there's also another guy I forget his name, but Corridor grew kind of challenges him on this as well. The guy's like no, this is 100% real, because you know you have all these reasons here. And the guy who was interviewing him I forget who it was was like well, they found like the exact same filter on After Effects, like the exact same film filter. And he's like well, you know, that doesn't necessarily mean it's the same thing. And then he goes on to say, like I can show you a picture of my butthole and it'll be different from your butthole, but there's still buttholes. And it's like why is that when you yeah, everyone's just like why are you talking about your?

Speaker 3:

butthole. It's like flat-ear theory videos. I love going I'm fucking detailing real hard now. We should do an episode on flat-ear theory.

Speaker 2:

Oh god. I love the Nephilim Psychometry where the guy proves himself wrong.

Speaker 3:

He's just like yeah, the guy with the laser, he's like I'm going to put these two holes like a mile apart and I'm going to fire this laser at him and if the earth's flat, it's going to go through this hole. And then it totally doesn't. And he's like, well, well, well, I did something wrong.

Speaker 2:

We don't have all the data. Yeah, he's like, we just don't have all the data. No, fuck you. That shit cracks me up.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to forget to do this, but I don't do this right now. So the section of the website talking about the After Effects thing, the section of the website that lays out reasons why somebody might edit footage, even if the footage is real, are one spicing up bland footage. So basically-.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's just, you know, bland footage of real aliens, it's not-.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, actual footage of grays isn't entertaining enough, so I got to add some fucking cinematic value here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, two I got to throw a TikTok filter on this.

Speaker 3:

Incompetence and naivety, never underestimate human decision making and the possibility of bizarre reasoning Like I thought it looked cooler that way. So Ivan, this guy who is like I, got real alien footage was like man, I just thought it looked cooler if I just ran it through After Effects.

Speaker 2:

What if he just had like a Blu-ray of alien footage? And he's just like no for me. Let's dumb it down a bit. Let's add the film real clickety-clacks.

Speaker 3:

Three Planned degradation. The effects could have been an integral part of a hoaxing project to hide imperfections and limit production costs, which is what I think the most reasonable explanation is. It's basically just saying they used these effects to just cover up the fact that the actual footage wasn't that convincing.

Speaker 2:

So the real footage looked fake, so they added shit to try to make it look real.

Speaker 3:

Well, okay, so I said that this section of the website explains reasons that they may have edited legitimate footage, but that one is saying that they may. This may not be legitimate footage and they just put the effects on top of it to make it look more convincing.

Speaker 2:

Oh, so number three is that it's fake, right?

Speaker 3:

Number three is that it's fake. Number four is blackmail. The leaker may have wanted to show just enough to make the original owner aware of the extent of the leak, without the implicit threat of an uncontrolled release. I don't understand this at all.

Speaker 2:

And that doesn't make sense to me.

Speaker 3:

Why the effects just show smaller sections of the film. I don't yeah.

Speaker 2:

And to me that doesn't make sense, because Ivan states himself that these are snippets from 180 minutes of video, which means he. How would he know that if he didn't own the 180 minutes of the video?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I don't have a clue what the effects add to that point at all.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that doesn't make sense.

Speaker 3:

Responsibility that makes sense, ivan might have tampered with the footage to initially keep it in a gray zone and gauge the reaction of the general public to determine how to move forward. So basically, this is saying that are edited to intentionally make it plausible that these are fake, just to see if the public would be receptive to a leak of this magnitude.

Speaker 2:

And now we have a whole website.

Speaker 3:

And now we have a whole website Skinny Bob.

Speaker 2:

I mean we are not doing this website justice. By the way. Yeah, it's so long. A thousand percent, it's a huge Skinny.

Speaker 4:

Bobinfo. It is a huge it is a huge it is a huge.

Speaker 2:

I shit you not. There's even a bit where they're like oh, you know, some people are like whoa, look at those weird. Like In some of the shots there's diagonals and that means that it's fake, because that means it's edited. And it's weird because there's no diagonals when there's motion and no cameras or some dumb shit and they're like well, actually, if you look at this picture from like 1928, you'll see that this guy's moving so fast during this picture that it causes a diagonal in the imagery and they just go on with weird shit like that.

Speaker 2:

They got fucking arrows and they're lining up pictures with other shit. There is so much fucking information.

Speaker 3:

They 3D model the fucking house just to show you the actual like rotation of the camera in this footage.

Speaker 3:

So that section of the website I thought was really interesting because, like the entire point of that section of the website is they 3D model a house and then they set up a camera in like unity or whatever and like move or blinder, and like move the camera around to show the movement of the camera as it's filming the UFO, and so, like that section is talking about how, if there's a UFO floating in the sky and you wanted to film the UFO, why would you film the house?

Speaker 3:

Because the camera is very obviously pivoting around the house. So what seems most plausible is that this was actually just footage of the house that somebody later put this UFO in. But then my question is like 12 years on, they have all of this footage that, based on everything on the website, as far as I can tell, is like period correct, like most of the footage seems to actually be from the time period that it claims to be from. If they have all of this footage that they're like super imposing shit onto, why has nobody been able to find the original footage? That's my question.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, well, you know what? Actually there is some some levity to that. It depends on where when this footage is coming from, because a lot of media from I think it's like 1930 and earlier is like just straight up gone. So this, if this is like early enough, it could just be straight up disappeared because they didn't what's the word I'm looking for? They didn't take care of, take care of film back then. They didn't like make sure everything was sealed up?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but how? This random fucking person from 2011 get old in it.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes you can find film little bits and pieces. I don't fucking know all the answers that skinny Bob.

Speaker 3:

Okay, if Ivan could find it, why can't anybody else? That's the question.

Speaker 2:

And that's a valid question.

Speaker 4:

I think there's a lot of like why is he, why is he hiding it? Why is you know like this? What's?

Speaker 2:

the point. This is also how fucking insane these guys went. I don't know if this is the same one that you were you brought up before, Matt but in the first video we see a UFO flying over a city like a little town. They stabilized the footage and they looped it of this UFO over this town and they created an entire 3D reconstruction of the landscape of the town.

Speaker 3:

That's what I was talking about.

Speaker 2:

And they, yeah, and then they added the camera in the background and everything. Is that the same one you're talking?

Speaker 3:

about yeah, yeah, they fucking like whole ass went Google Earth on this shit and like it's, yeah, it's insane to me how much shit they put in. I'm also amazed that so far nobody so like. The prominent structure in this 3D recreation of this landscape is like these very long white buildings that they go into a lot of detail about, which I guess could be like barns for cows that they use for milking or something, but like we need one of those fucking Geo guesser people to just look at this and be like right.

Speaker 2:

Oh my god. I'm gonna be like 35 seconds to be like got it. They've taken, like, the picture of the alien on the ground, like presumed dead, and they found footprints there and they even estimated the measurements of the footprints and the depth of the hill to find out, like the size and weight and everything of the guys that are walking around.

Speaker 3:

The website fucking goes into detail about the measurements of the aliens, like there's even like in that first video, where the aliens laying on the ground and it's like kind of like in the fetal position, they like 3D reconstruct the alien and then lay it out so that they can measure how tall they think it is.

Speaker 3:

It's going back to the white buildings. The point I was making is, like these are very prominent structures and it doesn't make sense to me that either a they're not still on Google Maps somewhere or something and somebody hasn't found them, or, b, if this is just because it's like period correct footage and these buildings don't exist anymore, I would still feel like there's not that much video footage, especially from an aircraft from the 1940s like this is get. The footage has to be somewhere. Somebody has to know where. This is like the unedited version of this.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I was like an email that came out.

Speaker 4:

I don't know if you, if you read that, but like, basically some random user got like send an email to Ivan and actually got a response back. It was like do you happen to know who the copyright holder is for skinny Bob, also wondering who the original leaker of the footage is? Somebody told me that the footage came out through you and info would be great. But blah, blah and Ivan just goes. We were sent that footage to release from a source, the same source that sent us redacted. I know it's the original source because the original version is not available to anyone. That's where you won't find it anywhere on the Internet. We use several sock channels on YouTube and other sites and we did it this way to make sure info got out even if our one channel or website was terminated.

Speaker 3:

So are the other ones.

Speaker 4:

Yeah Right, what's the other sock channels? Bro Ivan wears one through 134.

Speaker 2:

And here's the last bit that I want to touch on it too when you're done.

Speaker 4:

That was really it. I don't know. There's just. I have a very hard opinion on this one, which I'm sure we'll get to in a minute here.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, go ahead, it's the last bit I want to touch on you talked about in video two, where it kind of goes to a video of like this weird like dish looking thing. Remember that, yeah. So on that dish on the website, they found on the still frame of it these smudges that looked like symbols and upon further inspection they found out that these are potential references to the alphabet from the reticuli themselves and if you go down on the website they have the whole ass alphabet on there about the reticuli, like language.

Speaker 4:

And they think the one that we talked about in Serpo.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and they think this is part of it. They make a 3D render of the plate to like show you why it comes out blurry on the picture, how we can identify it, what it would look like, and they go drastically into that as well, like into that alphabet stuff, and they're like what does it mean? We don't still know what it identifies, that it could be in this. It could mean that we don't know the alphabet all that well and it's insane how they were even able to gleam away an alphabet from this. That's fucking nuts. Well, surely, and apparently this is all like this alphabet was taken. They found it. Let me find the bit again. Let me just find the fuck a bit again real fast. Ba ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba ba ba.

Speaker 2:

Apparently, they noticed similar characters on a copper plate that was dropped by UFO in Edmonton, canada, in 1967. And that is where they kind of referenced this alphabet from. Was this copper plate that was dropped there? And they do kind of match up a little bit, not going to lie. And they said these symbols might be ways to identify, like you know, planets, or like communication, like how they communicate the ebbs do. No one knows what it is, but the alphabet thing is very fascinating to me.

Speaker 3:

I was just scrolling through the website and I totally forgot about speculative reenactment of the fucking teeth Like oh yeah, I saw that one.

Speaker 2:

That's the funniest section, so and they even referenced back to the fucking the Quebec one that I was talking about, the Quebec Alien that was found in the river. They referenced that guy too. In this there's so much fucking shit. Everyone that's listening. Go see fucking skinnybobinfo. The fucking Mars attacks. Martians are even on here Like they're like. Oh, you know, this is the.

Speaker 4:

That's because they talk a lot about the special effects stuff, how it would be way cheaper for someone to make just like a good like silicon mask over CGI at the time, which I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, I don't know. But so let's kind of get into it, boys. So let's, we haven't done this in a minute Real or fake. I want to say let's go on, on, go. I want you to say if you think it's real or if you think it's fake. So three, two, one, go, fake, fake, fake.

Speaker 3:

Does anybody want to back themselves up? Because you're not going to say anything Anybody who hasn't already talked to the owner on this website hasn't already said it.

Speaker 2:

I will back myself up once I hear yours. What was yours?

Speaker 4:

I'm going to.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to stop.

Speaker 4:

Mine's short and sweet and I just I can't get over the fact that they've edited the footage. There's no point for them to edit the footage. There's no point for them to not release more footage if they're trying to stop, if they're trying to like not be shut down. If this was real and the government didn't want us to know, this would be shut down, easy as that. Like, our government has the power to do that and they would and they haven't. I didn't hear your answer.

Speaker 3:

My answer is a combination of dugs and then what? I guess? Everybody who watches this who says that it's fake according to the website.

Speaker 2:

Oh wait, do you think it's fake too? Yeah, I think it's fake.

Speaker 3:

So yeah, the first thing is why would you edit the footage? It doesn't make any fucking sense. Like, especially, why would you edit it so obviously? Why would you do things like add timestamps that don't exist, like you don't know what time it was when this video was recorded. Why would you just throw that in for Flare? It doesn't make any sense. You're just guessing maybe Well, but it doesn't make any sense at all, let's say three o'clock.

Speaker 3:

If you're going to leak some confidential footage of something I don't know. Doug already made that point. The second thing is Skinny Bob himself is a 3D model. He just is.

Speaker 4:

Bob.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. The website says everybody watches this and says it's a 3D model, but you don't know that. You don't know that this isn't just how aliens move, it's a fucking 3D model, it just is.

Speaker 4:

It just sounds like an upset 12 year old. They're like you, don't?

Speaker 2:

know that. You can't prove that Part of me wants to believe what I agree, especially because this was made. Yes, 12 years ago does sound like a long time ago, but it was 2011. We did have sophisticated enough technology that you could make a 3D model and make it pretty realistic. Look, I mean fuck, they made the T-Rex and Jurassic Park in 1993. You?

Speaker 3:

can do anything in 2011. Whoever made these videos was fairly capable, but it's a 3D fucking model.

Speaker 2:

It just yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

They were like this looks pretty fake.

Speaker 3:

Maybe if I just add a bunch of after effects, make it look really old.

Speaker 2:

That'll get them. No, the guys, this is real. Trust me, I heavily edited it. That means it's legit.

Speaker 3:

I mean, it's essentially the cane pixels approach, Right. It's like it's made in Blender or whatever and like the raw footage probably wouldn't be that convincing. But if you add a VHS filter and some shaky cam and do the lighting just right, it looks pretty good. Like it's the same thing, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And it's a little heartbreaking. But I agree, as much as I want this to be real because you know it is pretty good looking, I'll give it that Like, especially for 2011,. This is pretty fucking great. Not gonna lie, and I'm sorry to break it to all of you on SkinnyBobinfo that are recreating 3D models of towns to help your cause. I'm sorry, man, it's fake. You gotta let it go. The only downside is I don't think they will because they're too deep in. They've spent all this time on it. You can't say it's fake now. Yeah, I think that's where they're at and I agree it's very obvious at SkinnyBob is a 3D model. He moves way too weightlessly. You can say that's maybe that's just how the grays are, but here's the thing.

Speaker 4:

I will give them credit. Did you watch the video in the 1.5 speed? I read that, but I didn't why it looks bad. It does look better. I will say like it actually makes it look better.

Speaker 2:

One point it doesn't look so choppy 1.5 speed is a relatively new add on.

Speaker 4:

They didn't have that 12 years ago on YouTube, so doing that now, well, the whole point is that if you put it in 1.5, yeah, if you put it in the 1.5 speed, you can see that the timestamp as fake as the timestamp is actually is going at like one second now.

Speaker 3:

So the footage you're seeing at normal speed has slowed down and that's why it looks fake.

Speaker 4:

That's why it looks so like he does actually yeah.

Speaker 3:

Like I said, you can literally go in and he looks better, I think what might actually be happening there, though, is like, if you speed it up like it does, it cut out frames, and so there's less information for you to determine whether it's fake or not.

Speaker 2:

How do I speed up?

Speaker 3:

Okay, so yeah.

Speaker 2:

There's a little gear on your player.

Speaker 4:

There is Look at that, and it says playback speed. What in the hell.

Speaker 3:

I mean you're not wrong. It does look more convincing, does it? It looks more.

Speaker 4:

It looks human, more human.

Speaker 3:

I still think if I saw this originally at this speed. I'd still say hey, that's a 3D model.

Speaker 2:

No, because it's a thousand percent. That's about to say blinking way too much. Blinking way too much.

Speaker 3:

Here's the thing and here's the thing I'm going to say about what convinces me very thoroughly that this is a 3D model is that you can see the texture on the model's head. So, like the way a 3D models texture works is it's a 2D image that's just wrapped around a 3D model and when it moves it's going to stretch out certain parts of that texture and when he blinks you can see that there's not, like there isn't more skin flap or whatever. Unfolding from underneath is like the crests of his eyes.

Speaker 2:

It's the same bit.

Speaker 3:

It's the same texture that's just like stretching out in a very unnatural way.

Speaker 2:

It's not skin. It's like I don't think that the one and a half speed really helped me out personally, because I think it. I think it moved too quick and that that, to me, added to the weightlessness.

Speaker 4:

And he can't wait too much. That's fair. I think, kind of going off the way you were saying about the like texture mapping is like, if you like, look at its forehead to when it's blinking, you get like zero like movement, right in like the skin, or crew Like it just can.

Speaker 3:

it can just stays, don't stretch out.

Speaker 2:

I highly recommend go to a quarter crew quarter crew's website or website YouTube channel. They do a thing where it's like they talk about UFOs just quarter crew UFOs. It's like the most recent one where they talk about this guy and it's pretty fun. They break it down really cool and they go over a bunch of stuff. But yeah, I'm a go with fake. I'm sorry, as much as much fun as it is to be on skinny Bob dot info and look at all this shit, it's it's just fake and there's no getting around it.

Speaker 4:

And plus, and here's one, it's definitely a great rabbit hole.

Speaker 2:

It is, and here's the one part that I don't think anyone's really talking about on there is you have to take place. This supposed to be like 1940s footage and you get that footage of the UFO by the house and they're pretty close and this camera is wrapping around. So this camera had to be in some sort of aircraft as well. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

No, it's a train.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they say that it could be an automobile or a train as well.

Speaker 3:

They cover that on the web Right.

Speaker 2:

It's pretty high up, I feel, to where it would have to share altitude with some sort of airplane because it's pretty tall.

Speaker 3:

It's definitely just ground level.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, isn't it. Is it ground level?

Speaker 4:

I thought it was like second story level. It's just far away. It's just like far away, yeah it could be zoomed in, I suppose. I don't know, I'm still saying fake, fuck you.

Speaker 2:

I'm still saying fake, there you go.

Speaker 1:

I don't know.

Speaker 2:

It's too good to be true. Again, this was uploaded 12 years ago. I feel like, with the amount of shit that the government's even letting out now about aliens, that they're even like even the government now is like the whole look, aliens could be real. They let out all that military footage of the alien stuff passing by. They're like oh yeah, that's an unidentified thing, we don't know what that was. It's potential extraterrestrial. Even the government is starting to emit stuff very slowly. I feel like they would have brought this to the table already if it was legit.

Speaker 4:

What about the Miami aliens? You guys been seeing anything about that?

Speaker 2:

No, oh yeah, that fake ass, the creature that's running.

Speaker 4:

I haven't looked into it apparently. Yeah, I guess some shit.

Speaker 2:

I hope it's fake it is unfortunately because it's like a 3D creature that's running around, but it's just some guy making some goofy looking monster Like in a mall or some shit or something.

Speaker 4:

No, it's just walking the streets.

Speaker 2:

It's just on the dark streets of Miami.

Speaker 4:

What I was saying was there's a bunch of people talking about an alien at a mall or some shit.

Speaker 2:

It could have been in a mall. It could have been in a mall. I saw one of it crossing the street outside.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so it was like, I guess, a mall and the police blamed it on teenagers fighting or something. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, that, and there was like 400 cops there.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, there was like a pijillion, allegedly everyone's like.

Speaker 2:

oh, what is it? I don't know. It wasn't aliens.

Speaker 3:

I can tell you that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's never really. Yeah, I was going to say.

Speaker 3:

what Pharrell and the discord just said is like, if you want a good debunk of that whole story, King and our discord in the general chat actually did a very thorough write up on why it's verifiably false. The other day the Miami yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, oh, yeah I did Fuck. Oh yeah, we are fucking with buster.

Speaker 4:

Oh, the fucking King is building Legos and shit. I'm building Legos and shit.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah and shit.

Speaker 4:

Oh damn, he really did put like a whole ass right up, Okay.

Speaker 2:

Dysentery on there or whatever.

Speaker 4:

I'll read that later.

Speaker 2:

Well, I think we squashed this enough and we pummeled it into the ground.

Speaker 3:

We didn't squash it enough for the people who have been obsessed with this for 12 years.

Speaker 2:

I can't wait for their comments on our YouTube channel. I hope they do. Oh, my God, I know I can't wait, I'm going to get so much stuff.

Speaker 4:

Titled this episode just skinny Bob fake as fuck.

Speaker 3:

So something that a podcast I used to watch all allegedly possibly maybe did on one of their episodes was they actually got a flat earther to like call into the show and they like they were very respectful about it, but they like got him to explain his whole position and stuff. I feel like we should do that with somebody who believes in skinny Bob.

Speaker 2:

I would love that.

Speaker 4:

Let's, let's, let's do an interview. We can throw it up on the Patreon.

Speaker 2:

Right, and we still have to. We have interviews with stuff, do have to reach out to people. We have some.

Speaker 4:

we do we do so that? That being said, I guess I guess, before getting out of episode territory here, yeah, we, we called an audible tonight and that's why we're doing this episode, because our next episode is one that we're all really excited for, actually, so hopefully that'll be fun for everyone.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, we wanted to do it right because inclement weather and the Illinois area, and also the whole thing is right to. That's why we're currently trying to bail Jason up, and no promises.

Speaker 4:

We don't think he might have. He might have killed himself, I'm not sure.

Speaker 2:

Trigger warning listening back on the last week's episode, it's funny hearing Moot go watch out for next week. We got a real banger.

Speaker 1:

Hey, this is this is here, fuck it.

Speaker 2:

It was I genuinely I love the alien talk. I just hate the comments that we get about it, because people are dumb and they can't have fun with a thing over the jungle. You, you can't just have fun. Okay, so you can't just have fun with a thing. Yeah, gotta make it a whole bit. You can't just be like oh, a fun alien fucking video, oh, isn't this interesting? No, someone's always got to be like oh no, this is 100% real and you're wrong and this is why.

Speaker 4:

And someone's always got a tariff of ribbons.

Speaker 2:

It was Trump, yes, and I'm just tired of it. Why can't I just have a really fun entertaining thing? And I know we kind of ripped this apart but we also flattered it a lot. It was really entertaining and really fun. But you have the people like on skinny bobinfo that are like, oh, it's so real, I don't care if it's edited, you know. Oh, so he used After Effects on it Big whoop, yeah, no, big whoop. That means it's fucking fake. But you know it's still okay because this shit is really cool looking. It's really fun.

Speaker 3:

Oh, it is very cool. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I appreciate the dedication to whoever made these.

Speaker 2:

I would eat a motherfucker, calling me a clown in the comments because I enjoyed a thing and still know it's fake. You should know it's fake too, but still have fun with it.

Speaker 3:

Don't, it's all I got. Don't get me started, because then we're going to have the whole debate about ARGs again, but I'm very. There's another thing, and another thing. I very much appreciate the fact that somebody up like made these, uploaded them to YouTube and all these years later has not just been like yeah, I was the person who did it. Yeah they're completely another.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's like I'm out of here, yeah, and I just like that there's a community around it still Like that's.

Speaker 4:

My favorite part is, to this day, people are still talking about it and people are still actively posting in this thing Like it's like oh yeah, there's.

Speaker 3:

There's a comment on this YouTube video from a year ago. A decade later, and I'm still no closer to the truth. I'm absolutely torn between knowing this is real and thinking that I'm crazy. I wish I had the only answer I've ever cared about before ending this game called life 71 up votes.

Speaker 4:

Man. Man proceeded to shoot himself after that.

Speaker 2:

Not enough to save him. Well, on that note, I'm going to go ahead and say go to diludipotcom and patreoncom. Slash diludipot. You can chuck in something or nothing. If you go to the website and you sign up through there, you get so much more stuff as well, like exclusive merch and discounts on merch. It's super cool that we got that there for you. So go take a peek. Also, you could just go to diludipotcom just because it's fun and we could use the clicks. So go, do that. You could go to our socials. We're everywhere on every social. We're diludipod. We're at diludipod. Or don't look under the internet, just fucking search us. We're right, fucking there. You could go to our YouTube. Just search, don't look under the internet. Youtubecom. Slash at diludipod. But let's be real, just look up, don't look under the internet, all right?

Speaker 4:

There it's this.

Speaker 2:

That's the easy way to go about it. You could also you could also also go to buy me a coffeecom slash diludipod and you could chuck in something there as well. But let's be real, it's going to be booze. It's not going to be. It's not going to be a coffee. I don't drink coffee. I'm a tea guy, I don't drink. It's going to be heroin. Wow.

Speaker 3:

Finally someone who actually pays attention to what they're looking at. I've been trying to tell people the same thing, but just so many want to think that Roswell and won't open their eyes. This footage has been leaking for years now, at least since the mid 90s.

Speaker 2:

Was that Woo? Was that the comment? There's only one thing that comes in my brain when this entire time I was searching this up, and it's this this video is demonetizing. No, no, no, it's okay, we're good, we're good. That's all I'm playing. I want to believe.

Speaker 4:

No, we're getting demonetized. Go to all our things.

Speaker 2:

Go to all of our things and I'll love you for it. That'd be really cool. You could also Google us. That'd be fun too. Go to our Gmail for inquiries and also just general emails at wwwgmailcom, and you could send us a voicemail or a text at 630-909-9366. You could send us a text or respond, or you could send us a voicemail. We'll play it at the end of the show. We need more voicemails, so get on it, people. Internet, the fuck.

Speaker 3:

We need a new one. I got a Discord DM from the other day saying they're on pause on hiatus.

Speaker 2:

On hiatus. You can't hiatus. You're in at night. What are you thinking? Get on it, go. Come on Mush.

Speaker 4:

We need content Taking us out of the game. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

How are you going to take me out of the game like that? I'm on a pause, I fucking, I got a fucking deal with some shit.

Speaker 4:

I'll be back in a little while.

Speaker 2:

You know the.

Speaker 3:

TikTok guy that.

Speaker 2:

I got a sword out. You know the TikTok guy that's from Ikea and he's just like, oh, you're about to lose a long-time customer Good. And it's got the background music. He's like do, do, do, do. You know what I'm talking about? Not a clue. The guy that was in cocaine bear Didn't see it. Okay, great, you guys suck All right. Anyway, doug, do you have anything to say to people?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, Say it. Thank you everybody for sticking with us last year. Hopefully this year we'll be a little more organized on our end. As we said in the beginning, we are going to Don't shake your head. Yeah, no, it's very unlikely, but we're going to try and bring you what do we call it? Deludy 4.0? Because I think we're technically our firmwares at three. So we're going to try and do a 4.0 rebrand not really a rebrand, I guess that's not the right word, but we're going to try and fix things.

Speaker 2:

Yes, hold, out, hold out the country of the Ludi stand, hold strong.

Speaker 4:

Basically it'll be, better for everyone, hopefully soon, at some point.

Speaker 2:

Moot Thalamiel J Simpson, do you have a thing to say?

Speaker 3:

This is not from the KGB. We were meant to think that it was the shutter sound and the title plate were added to misdirect. I still think the footage itself is real, though.

Speaker 1:

What a shame. What do you got to say, Jack Daddy?

Speaker 2:

Jack, daddy, I love you, daddy.

Speaker 4:

You just want scritches, I totally want. He just wants scritches.

Speaker 2:

Well, everyone, have a merry Deludi day and remember to delude yourself at least once a day and you'll feel better. So there's that. And then send me mega mind DVDs. The PO box is in the only got to bullshit.

Speaker 3:

Also, what did we get me teeth as well box the other day. Did you open it, or?

Speaker 4:

oh shit, should I? I didn't.

Speaker 3:

I was going to wait. Do you want me to do a bonus after this?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, let's do that. Let's open it on the bonus. Oh, that works All right.

Speaker 2:

Thanks for coming Lots.

Speaker 4:

You all suck. I hate all of you, so stupid, all of you.

Speaker 1:

Welcome back to internight. Unfortunately, with the change of the new year, our systems have corrupted some of our files and we haven't been able to continue as usual. Our messages will return in time. Until then, be safe, remember to go on long walks and remember to never let too much snow touch you this year. If too much does, it may be too late. Good night and see you soon.

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