DLUTI 139 - Cthulhu Corner: Shub-Niggurath

Ever find yourself chuckling at the absurdity of a citrus-themed life metaphor while grappling with the very real emotional rollercoaster of your thirties? 

*existential dread intensifies*

Now, let's tiptoe into the shadowy corridors of Lovecraftian horror, where Shub-Niggurath, 'The Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young', reigns supreme in her bizarre splendor. We'll muse over her ambiguous gender, chuckle at the thought of cosmic deities grappling with modern social media, and entertain the idea that she might just be the cosmos' original 'sex pervert.'

Remember! Laughter is the best way to brave the abyss. 

Transcript

Speaker 2 0:17

Don't look under the internet.

Speaker 5 0:41

I'm sorry you didn't have a great day. I hope tomorrow is better.

Speaker 1 0:45

I won't be. You have more days. I'll say that.

Speaker 3 0:47

You don't know that, ever the optimist.

Speaker 1 0:50

That would be better. You don't know. No.

Speaker 2 0:53

No, because what happened today is just going to bleed into tomorrow. Tomorrow I'm going to have to talk to my manager about it.

Speaker 3 0:58

I'll say it won't be.

Speaker 1 1:00

But it's all right.

Speaker 3 1:02

Tomorrow we'll come, and then it will go, and then that's.

Speaker 4 1:05

Then it'll happen again.

Speaker 5 1:06

Then it'll happen again.

Speaker 4 1:08

That's pretty neat.

Speaker 5 1:09

Wow, life is citrical.

Speaker 4 1:11

Hello everyone, welcome to Don't Look.

Speaker 5 1:12

Under the Internet Podcast, where we open on just we have shitty days, just being 30. Just being 30. It has its ups, it has its downs, and then it has its other downs and then more downs, but then it has some ups, but then it goes down. That's Jason Hi. That's Doug Yup. That's Matt Up, down down. I also said that thing that you did.

Speaker 2 1:43

See, it's cyclical, like you said.

Speaker 4 1:46

No, he said it's citricle. He did say it was citricle. I said citricle.

Speaker 5 1:49

Citricle Citricle Citricle sounds like a medication you should not be taking.

Speaker 2 1:53

I thought it was a cleaner. Yeah, that's where I saw it.

Speaker 4 1:59

If something tastes like citrus, what would you call it? Citrine? No, no, no.

Speaker 5 2:04

Citrine is very close to the company that I work for.

Speaker 4 2:06

No no, no, no, there's another word Cliteris. Okay, well, you let me know You're close, Matt.

Speaker 3 2:15

Is it Citrusy.

Speaker 5 2:17

Citrusy.

Speaker 3 2:18

It's citrusy, citrusy, citrusy you say a real word, but it's stupid.

Speaker 5 2:25

Well, I nailed it Well that was real. On that one, I'm going to bust open our delusy. I'm going to bust and I'm going to go with a little deludy Clap Housekeeping.

Speaker 3 2:35

Your head.

Speaker 5 2:37

Guess what we have for me to finally do housekeeping about. Holy shit, did we get a Petruna? We have three Petrunas, three Petrunis, three whole Petrunas. Wow, so I would like to give a shout out to and remember we're going to play the game.

Speaker 4 2:50

Does your name suck ass yeah?

Speaker 5 2:54

We have Quiet Crimson.

Speaker 2 2:56

Ooh, that's all right Quiet Crimson.

Speaker 4 2:59

Sounds like a Gogo stand Pornhub username.

Speaker 3 3:03

Two very different takes on the name. I like it.

Speaker 2 3:06

Let's have we know this is your Pornhub username we have.

Speaker 4 3:12

Probably as if he uses it for everything, or she?

Speaker 5 3:14

Yeah, we don't know. You're subscribing to us and that's all that matters. Watch whatever porn you want, I don't care. If it keeps you here and keeps you giving us money. Tell me what porn to watch, I don't care.

Speaker 1 3:25

Tell me what I should watch Make some recommendations.

Speaker 4 3:27

Yeah, there we go. Drop some recommendations in the comments, all right, yeah.

Speaker 3 3:31

We have Tori Felker, tori Felker. We've got Tori Blocker, tori Felker, tori Felker.

Speaker 4 3:37

Are we collecting all the Tori's Tori?

Speaker 2 3:38

from Texas Tori from Texas Tori from.

Speaker 5 3:40

Nashville, unfortunately. I'm just going to say, like, tori, that's just your name, I think, so we need you to come up. We have to come up with a new name for you, boys.

Speaker 2 3:50

Yeah, that was what we said we were going to do.

Speaker 3 3:52

Oh, it is, and then we didn't follow through. What's their whole name? Tori Felker's, chud Fungus. Was that Tori Felker's?

Speaker 4 3:57

Chud Fungus Chud. The image that you just put in my head.

Speaker 3 4:05

I can't think of anything else now, chud.

Speaker 2 4:08

Fungus Chud, fungus Flungus, flungus, okay.

Speaker 3 4:12

See, I heard like Chud Fungus, like a Chud in my room.

Speaker 4 4:17

That's just Smegmar and I Right.

Speaker 5 4:20

Chud Fungus sounds like an alien, like a TV show host from an alien planet.

Speaker 4 4:26

Yeah, that, hello, it's me Chud, fungus.

Speaker 2 4:29

Isn't Chud the stuff that cows throw up and shoot? No, that's Cud, that's Cud, cud.

Speaker 4 4:33

Cud Fungus. Cud Fungus Also.

Speaker 2 4:36

It's just all.

Speaker 5 4:39

It's the fungus that grew on my gut. I'm going to get us out of this. We have one more, if you keep letting us play Word Association. Manage. The next one is best friend Riley. I'm not just saying that because we're best friends.

Speaker 2 4:50

It is also I can't shit on that.

Speaker 5 4:52

Riley's username is best friend Riley, not that we're best friends.

Speaker 3 4:54

My best friend Riley.

Speaker 5 4:56

I don't know, riley, that well to say, best friend, maybe, friend sure, aquaintance for sure, aquaintance for sure. But like best friend, I don't know. I only have like one of those and it's a cat.

Speaker 4 5:06

So you're going to have to be.

Speaker 1 5:07

You and I are going to have to compete.

Speaker 2 5:10

You're going to have to compete with a stranger Riley.

Speaker 5 5:13

Yeah, you're going to have to compete with a cat who fucking smears his asshole on my carpet now because that's a thing out in the world.

Speaker 1 5:19

Is that a thing you have to do to be in?

Speaker 5 5:20

the competition.

Speaker 2 5:22

Yeah wipe your ass on my carpet. If I want to be your best friend, do I have to smear my ass all over?

Speaker 3 5:26

your. You have to sign Mike's carpet.

Speaker 5 5:28

yes, you also have to look me in the eye during and not blink, because that's what he does.

Speaker 2 5:34

I don't know if it's like an alpha move or like Establishing dominance.

Speaker 5 5:39

I don't fucking know. He just started doing it like two weeks ago.

Speaker 2 5:44

Have you taken him to the vet to see if maybe there's something wrong with his buttle?

Speaker 5 5:46

Well, that's the thing I'm like. If there's something wrong with his buttle, he'd act different, I'm sure, but he acts the same, I don't know Cats are pretty good at not showing that they're injured.

Speaker 2 5:56

It's like a defense mechanism. That's why when they start peeing outside of the litter box and stuff, you have to go get them checked for like UTIs and shit, because they won't act differently.

Speaker 5 6:07

I don't want to tell you what.

Speaker 4 6:08

I'm saying they're gonna like swab his asshole and be like his glands are fucked Look at his butt and if you see like little black dots that look like like you know, like what's where I'm like for like sesame seeds or something.

Speaker 3 6:20

It's worms.

Speaker 5 6:23

Oh, I know he don't got worms. I checked that Well.

Speaker 4 6:26

I mean, they can just happen so well, I'll check again.

Speaker 2 6:32

I'm pretty sure they say that. Like, when dogs do that, sometimes it's because they have hemorrhoids.

Speaker 5 6:37

Lori was saying it might be a glandular issue.

Speaker 3 6:40

I can't say with you any less, some anal glands.

Speaker 5 6:43

Hemorrhoids. Can we get off of this?

Speaker 2 6:46

Have you ever had hemorrhoids before? It really hurts.

Speaker 5 6:49

That's the end of housekeeping.

Speaker 4 6:50

That's what I was waiting for.

Speaker 5 6:52

We literally have just been waiting for that sentence. If you would like to subscribe and give us money where we talk about, like cats ass and hemorrhoids.

Speaker 2 7:00

Oh, cudd fungus and cat hemorrhoids.

Speaker 5 7:03

Yeah, so we're going to talk about my hemorrhoids.

Speaker 2 7:05

if you pay us enough, yeah, yeah, bonus episode.

Speaker 4 7:09

Join us after the show the.

Speaker 5 7:10

Hemorrhoids show and tell.

Speaker 4 7:11

The.

Speaker 2 7:11

Hemorrhoids episode the Hemorrhoids show.

Speaker 3 7:13

and tell yeah.

Speaker 4 7:15

I mean shit, we did a shitting our pants episode. We might as well bust out the hemorrhoids stories, I guess.

Speaker 5 7:21

Thank you, Quiet Crimson, Tori Falker and best friend Riley. You sponsored this episode.

Speaker 3 7:27

No, that rant specifically.

Speaker 5 7:29

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Speaker 2 7:42

There's at least one for episodes, yeah.

Speaker 5 7:45

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Speaker 3 8:02

Thanks, Mike.

Speaker 5 8:04

Speaking of like things. There's things that go unspoken. You cannot speak them. There's also thoughts that you cannot think. There's also things you can't describe and a lot of times, when you have things that you can't describe, it is described as being indescribable.

Speaker 3 8:33

Oh yeah. That was a travesty of a sentence.

Speaker 5 8:36

It's okay. It's because Bird Scooter is bankrupt now and they're a dead company.

Speaker 3 8:42

Is it your fault? Bird is gone.

Speaker 5 8:44

Yeah, Bird is bankrupt. They're no longer. I've been through my mourning period already. I'm at peace with it.

Speaker 4 8:51

But what am I going to do at GenCon? This? Year Are Boosted boards still a thing I hope. So what is it? Just the Lime Scooter now? Yeah.

Speaker 2 8:59

Lime wire, lime wire.

Speaker 4 9:01

Yes, yeah, you think Lime wire is still around.

Speaker 5 9:05

Yeah yeah, pirate Bay is still around.

Speaker 4 9:07

Pirate Bay is not still around, oh yeah, they are Pirate Bay.

Speaker 5 9:11

You just got to go to another, larger. Some shit out.

Speaker 2 9:14

Lime wire. The application doesn't exist anymore, but I think there was some talk of bringing it back and name only as an NFT music sharing platform Is Frostwire, okay there you go. I think Frostwire still exists, yeah.

Speaker 4 9:27

Thank God. What about Berserker's Share?

Speaker 1 9:29

Is it?

Speaker 4 9:29

a Kaza still.

Speaker 5 9:31

So we're describing things, but we're going to talk about something today that is indescribable Boys quite a decent description on it, though I'm not gonna lie. Okay, well, I I may have biffed this. What do we talk about today, guys? Well, we're doing cthulhu.

Speaker 4 9:51

Corner we're doing see the fucker corner YouTube listeners.

Exploring Shub-Niggurath, the Lovecraftian Entity

Speaker 5 9:56

Yeah, cthulhu corner, cthulhu corner. We actually have done cthulhu, yet yeah, we do. We need to do cthulhu soon if he was a conductor, would he have like a siren that goes like so good, so good, so good, so good, so good, so good, so good, cthulhu.

Speaker 1 10:15

How many?

Speaker 2 10:15

conductors do you know that?

Speaker 5 10:17

have, like their trains, have sirens on them.

Speaker 2 10:21

When you said conductor trains have sirens on them.

Speaker 4 10:24

Yeah, big band conductor like there's like a train conductor.

Speaker 2 10:29

See now that you there's like a hundred autistic train kids I was seeing this episode right now. That are just done.

Speaker 1 10:34

Finally.

Speaker 3 10:36

So, guys, I know we are. We're back in cthulhu corner. We are talking about a big boy, well, big lady, big big lady big, yeah, big something. I don't, I don't really want to assume.

Speaker 4 10:49

I don't, I'm not gonna assume anything, not about anything. Love graffity, that's for sure it be fucking though.

Speaker 5 10:56

It almost hell. Yeah, doesn't have a space cock or a space pussy.

Speaker 2 11:00

Yes, pussy A spa, see a space dick. There's a whole. There's a whole.

Speaker 5 11:11

Then there there's space clock. Go take a look, there is also space clock.

Speaker 3 11:15

No, we are talking about Shub Niggurat, the black goat with a thousand young black goat in the woods.

Speaker 4 11:22

Very long title and I love it.

Speaker 3 11:24

It's all of the different names. It's a shoved nigger off. Is the the coined name of this Wonderful, wonderful love crafty, an entity that is? I think it's an hour ago, right, yeah?

Speaker 5 11:37

I got a god yeah.

Speaker 3 11:38

We're talking about, but shub, today also known as black goat of the woods, with a thousand young. I mean, she has a ton of fucking names, right?

Speaker 4 11:48

There are around, for pretty sure, actually Is the black goat like a, like a reference to black Phillip.

Speaker 5 11:56

No, actually black black goat is.

Speaker 4 11:58

There's actually some debate on where that came from. I think we might actually mention this later on, but it's actually. People aren't actually sure if those are two different entities or not.

Speaker 5 12:09

Oh, so they could be the same thing, or not?

Speaker 1 12:12

Wow isn't that crazy, or not? Isn't that how most things are?

Speaker 5 12:15

they're either the same thing or not?

Speaker 4 12:18

Thanks for the question. Isn't the all? Mother, the mother goddess, lord of the woods, the mighty mother Shufflin.

Speaker 5 12:31

You had me, a mighty mother power.

Speaker 4 12:35

Yeah, and then wake.

Speaker 3 12:38

I'm not sure wake, just quake video game yeah quake for quake for the video game.

Speaker 4 12:43

I. Perfect well, shoot. So you want to go into the description, or?

Speaker 3 12:49

yeah, I mean I, I don't really care how you want to break this up. I mean, I feel like we both know a little bit about all of these different facets of shub.

Speaker 5 12:56

So is this one of the most? Has a lot of names. Yeah, a lot of the things that come from Lovecraft man are Indescribable. Is this one that is also Undescribable, or did he actually give a pretty good description of what this fucker be looking like?

Speaker 3 13:11

Honestly, I mean it's so the description is gonna change depending on where, what part of the world you're in. It's one of those.

Speaker 4 13:19

Oh, I'll have these. Yeah, as with any Lovecraft story, half of these monsters show up for like five whole seconds in a book, and then they're not there anymore.

Speaker 2 13:27

Can we do a cool Thulu corner that's all about the indescribable things, and then we and it's like five minutes long.

Speaker 3 13:34

And we do cuz we can't describe here's.

Speaker 4 13:37

Chuck mark Balarck. He's undescribable.

Speaker 3 13:41

Don't know what he is moving on, no idea Anyway just a list of names. Yeah, just hard to pronounce shit, charles Barkley.

Speaker 5 13:50

This is, this is chud.

Speaker 3 13:57

Hell, yes, okay, yeah, I can launch into the description about, about shub. So, like we said, black goat with a thousand young, that's one of the more popular titles for Shubna-Garoth. Now, she, I'm gonna, I can, I'm just gonna say she, it's most likely a. She, most likely I, again, not a hundred percent. Sure, this is a Lovecraftian horror, I don't know, but it's. It's kind of considered like the birth mother.

Speaker 4 14:24

It's mated with males, correct?

Speaker 5 14:26

Well, you did just say it's called it's the mighty mother.

Speaker 3 14:29

Yeah, I would know the birth, like it's known as the. I don't know if it's the birth being, I guess. It's given birth to so fucking many love crafty, love crafty and entities that it's kind of fallen into a motherly role. It's basically mother like mother this thing, emoji yeah. Board.

Speaker 2 14:56

Take the pregnant man emoji and turn it into this to show, but we will use it, I want lots of tentacles lots.

Speaker 3 15:06

So, like we said, a shub is an outer god within the Cthulhu mythos. Obviously HP, lovecraft, and the first time we actually here or see any kind of mention of Shubna-Garoth is in the. It's a revised story called the last test and it was written in 1928. I don't know if I've read this one. I don't actually think I have either. I've read stories that have like the black goat, like in it and stuff, but I'm typically isn't Lovecraft right. So this one it's again called the last test, written in 1928 and in its as his fucking tradition.

Speaker 3 15:47

In Lovecraft's versions of these, like his introduction of these entities, she's not really like described or mentioned very frequently in it, like at all, but it's more along the lines of like as people are trying to like invoke her or like it's through the incantations that they're chanting and you that's when you hear the words Shubna-Garoth, so that she also appears in the works of a lot of different other mythos authors. I mean the big one is Walter C DeBille. You're also gonna see in August Darlith Ramsey Campbell and Brian Lumley. What is.

Speaker 5 16:25

Walter, like them, wasn't there like a main guy that took over over? Oh, who's the guy that looked like like? I remember like.

Speaker 4 16:33

I remember what you know I love Darlith. We talked about a lot. He wrote a bunch of the Yogs at the off stuff.

Speaker 5 16:40

Maybe that's what I'm thinking of, because I remember there being like a guy who, like Lovecraft, just wrote down like as a thought Name question mark on like a paper, and the guy was like I can make books about that.

Speaker 3 16:50

I think that was as a thought yeah, I think, yeah, I think it's almost positive. Yes, I remembered a thing Hell yeah someone correct in the comments.

Speaker 4 16:56

Yeah, you're absolutely right though there's a lot of authors that did a lot more like, I guess, world building with 100 Beities than, like the original, ever did.

Speaker 3 17:09

Yeah.

Speaker 5 17:10

Yes.

Speaker 3 17:11

Just a concrete statue.

Speaker 5 17:12

I'm gonna go ahead and mix this with coke. Oh yeah, real quick. What are you?

Speaker 2 17:17

There's a bottle here and it's empty honk yeah.

Speaker 5 17:21

Bees uh, it's four roses, but it's those strong single barrel. No, strong little Bernie, so I might add a little coke to this Mood. Are you having an alcohol tonight or no?

Speaker 2 17:32

No, I haven't had a drop of alcohol in three weeks.

Speaker 5 17:37

That's awesome I.

Speaker 2 17:42

Got done with work today and I was just like I want to be drunk, so bad.

Speaker 4 17:47

Are you taking a breaker?

Speaker 2 17:49

Yeah, also, something's real wrong with my stomach and I don't know. I don't think it's a ulcer, but it's like like I've been on acid suppressors for like three weeks now, trying to just keep myself from having to lay down Because my stomach feels like it's ripping out of my abdomen.

Speaker 5 18:06

So has it gotten worse since we talked. We Talked about it before it's gotten a little better.

Speaker 2 18:13

Yeah, I'm good, so shit forcing me not to drink I.

Speaker 3 18:18

Mean that's fair, because I feel like you'd feel worse if you yeah, I do feel better.

Speaker 4 18:22

I know this is my go-to, but have you tried hitting it?

Speaker 2 18:26

Punching myself on the side really hard, just violence. Yes, I have.

Speaker 4 18:33

Cool, it's why he's here. All right, all right. Well, cheers y'all cheers.

Speaker 5 18:40

When you hear a clink, drink, blink, blink.

Speaker 2 18:45

I do have a liquid debt.

Speaker 5 18:47

There you go.

Speaker 4 18:51

I'll cheers you with my liquid debt. We don't get here.

Speaker 5 18:57

We're not zoomers. We don't get here, All right.

Speaker 4 19:03

I'm 30.

Speaker 5 19:04

I don't even know what it means we don't sigma, we don't.

Speaker 4 19:09

Show me your Ohio bro.

Speaker 5 19:10

I don't even know what that means. Why are people saying that? What does that mean? I don't know.

Speaker 2 19:15

We don't skip a det toilet. We do that we do that, mike doesn't have enough.

Speaker 4 19:22

Mike doesn't even know the Risler.

Speaker 1 19:24

So actually, before we get, into?

Speaker 2 19:27

What about fandom tags? I haven't paid mine today.

Speaker 4 19:32

What are?

Speaker 5 19:32

your people talking about. Am I not on the right Twitter? No, you're on the right.

Speaker 4 19:37

Twitter. How do I?

Speaker 5 19:38

use Twitter and I'm on socials more than you, and you're like Ohio.

Speaker 2 19:41

Because your old Twitter is just movies and political bitching.

Speaker 4 19:45

It's true, I do do a lot of political. I spend way too much time on TikTok. That's why I know all this dumb shit. Yeah, you do, you're a zoomer at heart. I am.

Speaker 5 19:53

Jen Alpha over here.

Speaker 4 19:56

I love hating life. I'm a zoomer.

Speaker 5 19:58

Anyway, continue with Shub, yeah, the Shub the Black.

Speaker 3 20:03

Goat the Shub Troubles. I will say so. I know that I was going over the description and I, more so, just gave a where Shub comes from. Nobody really can agree on what Shub actually fucking looks like. Yeah, it's more often than not, you will find this like imagery of Shub Nagroth, with like these bulbous like sacks on its body like almost like cold eggs maybe I don't know, but it's tentacles galore, mouths galore, eyes galore, but it's. It definitely looks more like something you'd find on Earth than something you'd find on an alien planet.

Speaker 5 20:45

Name me one thing with tentacles and egg sacks.

Speaker 3 20:48

Octopus.

Speaker 5 20:49

Do they have egg sacks? Yes, Wow. All right, name me two things, two things, okay, so continue on with the porn I watched last night.

Speaker 2 21:02

Yeah, the fish on his wife.

Speaker 3 21:03

Uh-huh.

Speaker 2 21:06

So a lot.

Speaker 3 21:07

You're going to see many, many, many different depictions of what Shub kind of looks like, and it's more so up to the honestly, I'd say it's up to the writing author or whoever's trying to evoke this sense of visualization of Shub in the reader's mind. That's 100% up to them. All they have to go off of is the very, very minute information that you find in uh, what the fuck was the name of it? Last test. You do get a little information about Shub from the Whisper in the Darkness as well, if I remember correctly, but in that one it's actually oh my God, it's rushing back. It's known as the something of the wood, the uh, blackwood lord of the wood, something like that.

Speaker 5 21:51

Man, you guys are on fire today.

Speaker 4 21:53

There's a lot.

Speaker 3 21:54

There's too many nicknames for this one. There's a fuckload Also, mike. To confirm the mothering it's one of its nicknames is the all mother, so that evokes a sense of femininity to it, so I think we can call her she. Lord of the Wood is how Shub is referred to in the Whisper in the Darkness, which is a much more prevalent story from Lovecraft. Definitely recommend it. Go check it out, yeah that's a good one, that's all I have to add Um yeah.

Speaker 4 22:21

So in the myth, though it says he was kind of saying um, she's actually described as a perverse fertility deity.

Speaker 5 22:26

That's a perverse fertility deity.

Speaker 4 22:29

That's why she's a sex pervert.

Speaker 2 22:30

She's a sex pervert. That's why she mothered her in so much.

Speaker 5 22:33

She just can't get on those cream pods. Oh gross, it's getting worse and worse by the second.

Speaker 4 22:41

All I'm thinking of right now is that fucking that part in Barbarian where the fucking gross booby happened, the fucking feedings. Yeah yeah, yeah, anyways. So it's said that she has been said to appear as an evil, cloud-like entity with an enormous mass that extrudes black tentacles, slime-dripping mouths and short, writhing goat legs. So just for example, in a game that me and Jason play quite often, is Cthulhu Death May Die. Oh yeah, she's actually Bonk Shub, it's depicted as something completely different Way different Than what I just said.

Speaker 4 23:24

It's more of like a like a. It's more like it looks like what you would consider like a, like a Satan, like a goat.

Speaker 3 23:30

Kind of a goat demon with horns, like a satyr, yeah, pretty much Like a tentacly satyr, almost.

Speaker 4 23:34

Yeah, and then-. A beefy tentacly satyr In our game Cthulhu Wars it is. It looks like a cloud evil entity where it's just like this ball on goat legs that has like all these like mouths and tentacles coming out of it. So it's like really really different depending on, like, who's portraying it and what they're trying to portray So-.

Speaker 2 23:55

And what their fetishes are.

Speaker 4 23:56

Exactly, I mean 14 miles. What can go wrong?

Speaker 3 24:01

I got 14 dicks.

Speaker 4 24:02

This is perfect. This is perfect. So one of the funny things is that it's described as having small creatures continually spat forth by the monstrosity.

Speaker 2 24:12

How?

Speaker 4 24:13

And they are either consumed into the miasmatic form, or it is. They escape to live some monstrous life elsewhere.

Speaker 3 24:20

That's a fantastic word, miasmatic. Yeah right, I like that a lot. So.

Speaker 4 24:27

Shub is the wife of Yogg Sothoth, who birthed the twins Nug and Yeb, and out of all the cults and all the mythos, this, the black goat, is probably the most extensively worshipped out of all of them. Her worshipers include the hyperborians, the Moevians, the people of Sarnath, which, if you don't know about Sarnath, we'll cover that sometime You're making up all of these people.

Speaker 2 24:53

You're picking random nouns Shub and Yeb.

Speaker 3 24:56

How fucking funny would this be if they completely thought that we were divulging all this information about this shit and literally we were just writing off the top of our head.

Speaker 2 25:06

You guys are 100%. Do a Cthulhu corner and just tell me anything. Yeah.

Speaker 4 25:14

You need to get together and brainstorm an episode and we just won't tell you when.

Speaker 5 25:18

Yeah, we won't tell you when It'll. Just like you see, they're praised by the Huvvians and they hear the Hovering, the Hovering.

Speaker 1 25:29

Sometimes, they hear the holiday Hubey-Wuddy, but sometimes this creature is known as the.

Speaker 5 25:34

Roast Beast.

Speaker 4 25:36

The Roast Beast Just wait for the next set of words that I'm about to say oh guys. So, besides all those crazy words that I said, there are a bunch of like juradic and barbaric cults that also worship her, whoever.

Speaker 4 25:51

But she's also worshiped by non-human species of the mythos, which is actually You're going to want to read all of that up, all right, so she's also for those of you who are just tuning in. She's also worshiped by non-human species of the mythos, and this is actually very, very big. This is a very big thing for a deity to be worshiped by other non-human forms, and those mythos creatures are the fungi from Yu-Goth. You're making these up now. Aka, migos, migos, what's?

Speaker 2 26:25

up fungi.

Speaker 4 26:26

I've been just walking through the rib bottoms. I cannot say this word because I don't know how, but it's Kwevo Yan-king-nyan-yans, he-nyan-yans, he-nyan-yans, he-n-n-yans, he-n-n-yans, he-n-n-yans, he-n-n-yans, he-n-yans, he-n-yans, he-n-yans.

Speaker 5 26:41

He-n-yans, he-n-yans, he-n-yans. You know you're fucking the….

Speaker 3 26:47

Yeah, this is just a McDonald's energy.

Speaker 4 26:48

Yeah, so… Sorry. So, that being said, with proper occult paraphernalia, the black goat can be pretty much summoned to any woods at any time of the new moon. So, however you know, the place from where she comes is not known. It is possible that she dwells at the court of Azathoth, at the center of the universe. She may also live beneath the planet Yaddith, where she is served by the Doles, and it's also possible that she lives in another dimension altogether. Nobody fucking knows.

Speaker 3 27:20

No one knows.

Speaker 4 27:22

And at this point I don't know if I even really care At this- point.

Speaker 3 27:24

there's no point in asking because you will never know.

Speaker 5 27:26

Yes, Are a lot of these stories supposed to be like speculation and myths rather than point of?

Speaker 2 27:33

fact Rather than facts, See that's a good question.

Speaker 3 27:36

Slightly, this whole mythos kind of hinges on the fact that one person, the mad Arab Abdul al-Azred or however, the fuck al-Zahred al-Hazred. So he wrote the necronomicon right, which means he was privy to esoteric information because he's the only one that knew about it, which means it was sent to him some way. So all of these things that we are… this is obviously like this is set up for, like the mythos of Lovecraft, not real life. But if you follow… or is it? That's the whole question. But if you follow the mythos, you see that the mad Arab writes the necronomicon and now he becomes kind of like this prophet, and now we're all… we're just literally taking his word for everything.

Speaker 4 28:17

But the problem is is this is where the whole big theme for everything, lovecraft and beyond, is set up for, and that's not knowing how to describe something or being able to fathom. The thing you're seeing Is it breaks your….

Speaker 3 28:34

Yeah, giving you insanity, which is what happened to Abdul Al-Hazred.

Speaker 4 28:39

He literally blew up into flames. He could not handle the thing he saw in it.

Speaker 3 28:45

Instantaneous human combustion, so it's kind of neat.

Speaker 4 28:50

I hope that happens to me one day. That's how… there's no pain.

Speaker 3 28:54

You're just gone.

Speaker 4 28:57

I saw this fucking meme the other day and it was like 20 years… it's like 30 years later and all the Baha Blast finally catch up to you and it just like….

Speaker 3 29:07

Holy shit, I hope there's not a time kill switch on that shit.

Speaker 2 29:13

I drink a 12 pack of Baha Blast as weekend.

Speaker 3 29:16

Oh yeah, I forgot, you could buy those in 12 packs.

Speaker 4 29:19

I heard they're not good, though I heard they're not… they don't taste like… Out of the can, no.

Speaker 2 29:22

They're not. Something's wrong with it.

Speaker 4 29:24

I don't know what it is, but something's wrong with it. You still drink a 12er.

Speaker 2 29:30

Well, yeah, I paid for it.

Speaker 4 29:31

You're like, damn, there's something… I'm not lying with this, but I'm going to slam this 12er.

Speaker 2 29:38

It's my slurm. Hell yes, slurmer's McKenzie Bring us on home.

Speaker 3 29:41

That's funny.

Speaker 4 29:47

But yeah, other than that, that's kind of where we are at with Shubb and the Mythos. As far as the information I gave, you didn't really give us much information. We don't know where she came from. We don't really know how she goes, but we know that everyone, and their mother, seems to worship her.

Speaker 3 30:07

Yeah, the worshipers are everywhere. They're universal, which is actually super important because, for whatever reason, earth is hyper important for all of this shit, because so much is taking place here. God damn you, cubie and Cube. Cube is that fucking Cube that landed on Earth a gajillion years ago and now everything wants it. I know I mentioned we both actually mentioned that Shubb is the black goat with a thousand young. I want to harp on that because we do have to talk about Shubb's children Before I do. Matt, mike, do you guys have any questions? Do you have anything you would like to know about?

Speaker 2 30:45

I'm wondering how long it's going to take somebody to make a TikTok where they take a bunch of sound bites and make a compilation of all the times that Jason said the N weren't.

Speaker 3 30:54

I have been thinking about that nonstop since we hit record.

Speaker 4 31:00

I did something because I knew this was going to fucking come up and I have a big red warning label.

Speaker 3 31:09

I saw that. Are we doing it right now? I have to you, have to you have to. Yeah, I wasn't going to say anything about it. We have a contingency for fucking discussion on this bullshit. Go, because yes, it's terrible. We didn't bring anything. I know.

Speaker 4 31:21

Thank you, mike, I love you. We are very happy about that. Lovecraft never gave the etymology of Shubb Negarath. It is a generally greed upon by Lovecraft critics that the name was inspired and based off of the name Shil Nugganoth. The guy named Lord Dunzi wrote Idols Days of the Yon. This was another, I guess, sci-fi cosmic horror thing, or sci-fi and cosmic horror was really realized, same vein as Poe and basically it's very like this, the ending, the TH ending that we see on a lot of this. The Tooth is in several of the Lovecraft creations, including Shogath, yugath, azathoth, azathoth, bal, sagaath. That one's close to Bal.

Speaker 5 32:08

Sagaath.

Speaker 1 32:09

Bal.

Speaker 4 32:09

Sagaath.

Speaker 5 32:10

Bal Sagaath.

Speaker 1 32:12

Nair.

Speaker 4 32:12

Lathotep.

Speaker 2 32:14

There's no indication that the name has gone from it Many racial connotations.

Speaker 4 32:19

nor does Shubb have any special connection to African Americans.

Speaker 2 32:24

It's a fun little point, you think.

Speaker 4 32:27

While the change may be a connection with the black goat of the woods, it's more likely to come through in the Latin word yeah. So I'll leave it at that, you guys you as listeners can think however you want.

Speaker 3 32:44

To be a hundred times.

Speaker 2 32:45

So Dugs turning it around on us, dugs like oh, you're the one who thought it, this is on you now. He did just give you all the information that we know.

Speaker 3 32:53

So from there anybody can do whatever they want with that. But from what we know, there was nothing like racially charged about the name Shubb Niggurat. That comes from another sci-fi horror writer who coined the name of a weird sounding sci-fi god.

Speaker 4 33:09

And they basically. Lovecraft basically took the Latin form of the color black and basically stuck it on because of the other nicknames that were given to it. Bam. Cut this later in post.

Speaker 3 33:29

I'll make all of this.

Speaker 5 33:31

I was just about to quote Joe Rogan. Jamie cut that out.

Speaker 3 33:38

I literally was going to turn into that and it's just going to be a clip of Doug just saying the name. That's the whole.

Speaker 1 33:44

Thing.

Speaker 4 33:48

Christ almighty.

Speaker 3 33:50

Okay, where are we? We just talked about the mythos.

Speaker 4 33:53

You were about to talk about her chitlins.

Speaker 3 33:56

The chitlins, the little black goats, Progeny, we can call it. So Progeny Shub has fucked everything of existence.

Speaker 2 34:08

Let's just be fucking honest here. So she is a sex pervert.

Speaker 3 34:12

I don't know if it's a pervert, because she welcomes it.

Speaker 2 34:15

No that's still a pervert. Yeah, I think sex perverts welcome the things that they do. You're not a pervert.

Speaker 3 34:22

That's fair. Shub niggeroth, first sex pervert in the entire universe, first OG.

Speaker 1 34:29

OG sex pervert.

Speaker 3 34:32

Holy shit, that's a pin if I ever heard one. So she has fucked everything of existence. She fucked Haster like the yellow sign, and that's what created the being Ithaqua. We've talked about Ithaqua a little bit. Ithaqua is some.

Speaker 4 34:52

I have a tic-tac that.

Speaker 5 34:54

I made about Ithaqua, Ithaqua that's a funny thing, oh my god, I forgot that the fucking LeoGar comes from Shub.

Speaker 3 35:03

So there's two Tsar and LeoGar. These are two things that I think should have been the Shogas, and if you remember from our Mountains of Madness episode, the Shogath is like this formless orb of death that actually spawned the entirety of the human race.

Speaker 4 35:19

These things look so fucking funny what I forgot about these guys. There's some really wild depictions of Tsar and LeoGar.

Speaker 3 35:28

So there are some fun ones. One of the most classically accepted depictions is similar to the Shogaths, except it's got a little bit more of an A-frame form to it, and this is actually the reason I got so excited about this is because I just started painting this mini from a Mansions of Madness Hell, yeah, so it's very formless. It can change forms, but we're not talking about that right now. This part is kind of fucked up, but it's going to make you want to say what in the Alabama is going on here? Pastor might also be the father of the Black Goat. What in the Alabama?

Speaker 1 36:08

Hell yeah.

Speaker 5 36:10

Oh no.

Speaker 3 36:11

When did they mate? They also are father-daughter. What in the Alabama?

Speaker 4 36:18

What in the what in Corbyn Kentucky?

Speaker 3 36:21

Shub fucked Haster, okay, okay. And that created Ithical yes, King and Yellow. I remember that one, but Haster is also very probably the father of Shub Nigguroth. We're going to have to get a Jerry. Springer moment on this, oh, this is Jerry Springer in the Outer God version of Jerry Springer is happening right fucking now.

Speaker 4 36:47

Okay, we'll be back with the paternity test after this commercial break.

Speaker 3 36:52

That's Maury you clown.

Speaker 4 36:53

Ah, piff, nah, he did the same shit.

Speaker 5 36:57

However there's a case that can be made.

Speaker 3 37:00

Yeah, there's a case that can be made for not Haster being Shub's father and then them having sex and Shub is literally just like Adam and Eve, like the rib. You take the rib out and you make Eve type thing. You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 37:16

What do they call it Like fission?

Speaker 3 37:17

Fission, fission, fission, yeah, where you literally create two things out of one thing.

Speaker 2 37:23

Mytosis.

Speaker 3 37:24

Yeah, asexual Mytosis, asexual reproduction, Yep, shmexual Probably fucked. Yogsothoth the form Nuggin Yeb, like Doug had said. And even they, yig and Shub fucked to create this thing called Beatis. This is one I've never heard of. Yeah, I'm not super Beatis, but some people say that Shub is more Yig's mother, not so much the mate. Mating is really a weird topic for any Lovecraftian Eldritor, because like, what hole do you put? Like is there a hole? Like is it? Just Do you think about it. Then you're pregnant.

Speaker 4 38:03

Yeah, they shot their space come at each other.

Speaker 3 38:07

That's part of the problem. It's like which one which hole there's so fucking many.

Speaker 5 38:11

I feel like after enough tries you'll figure out which hole.

Speaker 4 38:14

I don't know. Beatis has a hole. That I'm pretty sure. I know which one you're putting it in.

Speaker 3 38:21

It looks like the mouth, but that looks like it feels the best it does.

Speaker 5 38:25

Oh, I don't like this hey, why don't you make a conversation hey?

Speaker 3 38:28

let me.

Speaker 4 38:30

Crab claws. I'll just start putting these in the disc.

Speaker 3 38:32

Yeah, just start shitting them in discards.

Speaker 4 38:34

This is Patreon DilutiPod. You find us there. Yeah, there you go. You can join the Discord and see MonsterVegina.

Speaker 5 38:43

There it is. I can do that from the safety of my own house from Google.

Speaker 4 38:45

Yeah, I was gonna say, you just Google that I thought I'd just put that in the main general chat, but I didn't, so that's good Wow.

Speaker 2 38:55

A lot of sensations going on there.

Speaker 4 38:57

Which hole are you putting it in? It's at the game.

Speaker 3 39:02

Coons wisely.

Speaker 4 39:13

Oh, Janine's here. She'd been here.

Speaker 3 39:15

Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 39:18

I was also looking at the chat.

Speaker 3 39:20

That's all I'm gonna go over when it comes to the progeny of Shubb, just because there's so fucking many and there's so many interpretations of how and why and this and that Doug, do you have any other? What is happening right now?

Speaker 4 39:34

Everything about what just happened was really silly, and You're not right? Yeah, I'll just move us along. We'll let Mike have his couple minutes of laughing. We'll let him get it out of the way, that's okay.

Speaker 2 39:48

I just ripped a concerning amount of skin off my toe.

Speaker 3 39:52

I did that to other people today.

Speaker 4 39:53

Bro, I kicked a wall the other day and split the fucking webbing between my toe. Don't tell me that it healed nicely, but boy, howdy that sucked. I was literally kicking a pillow down the stairs and I kicked the wall.

Speaker 2 40:14

I had a gross suck of my tongue so hard Once when I was a teenager that it ripped the little thing that attached your tongue to the bottom of your mouth. Holy fuck, that wasn't pleasant.

Speaker 4 40:25

That sounds bad, it sounds terrible.

Speaker 5 40:31

It wasn't great you good, Michael. Yeah, that was just really funny.

Speaker 1 40:38

The game the game the Looties Perce game. Fun for the whole family.

Speaker 4 40:48

Alright, we're going to take a small break.

Speaker 5 40:53

What a Waui Zaui that was.

Speaker 3 40:54

Waui to the Zaui. Why were we at Young's?

Speaker 4 40:58

Albert.

Speaker 3 40:58

Young's Albert to Zaui.

Speaker 4 41:01

I actually was watching GMM the other day and one of the people on GMM said Waui Zaui what? And I was like what?

Speaker 5 41:13

They took our shit. You hear that Good morning. Yeah, let's so soon, let's take down Good Mythical Morning.

Speaker 4 41:25

We'll sue them after June because I'd like to still go to their live show.

Speaker 3 41:29

They're just going to turn you away, Like? No, we have a lawsuit with you. Yeah, sorry.

Shub-Niggurath and the Black Goat

Speaker 4 41:37

Alright, so where were we? So we talked about some of the children of the dark young, shit, the girls. I said the dark young Of Shub, but let's talk about the dark young of Shub. So you're going to see these a lot. In most video games, board games, whatever it is, the dark young are like her main source of power, essentially, I want to say, but as a descriptor they are horrifying pitch black monstrosities, seemingly made of ropey tentacles. They stand as tall as a tree that's subjective On several pairs of stumpy hoofed legs. A mass of tentacles protrude from their trunks where a head would normally be, and puckered maws dripping green goo cover their flanks.

Speaker 3 42:28

You know, it proves that even back in the early 1900s Americans fucking refused to use normal measurement systems, absolutely fucking refused. They were as tall as a tree, or you could just say 20 meters.

Speaker 2 42:44

The imperial system is the British Empire's fault, so they set a separate failure.

Speaker 3 42:51

That's fair, but also I feel like I've seen so many headlines, especially in the last year, of like.

Speaker 4 42:57

There's a large boulder, small boulder I was just about to mention that I saw one. It was like a giant fossilized turtle shell Juan for size, scale.

Speaker 1 43:08

And it was just a guy named Juan.

Speaker 4 43:09

This is next to it, like we know how tall Juan is.

Speaker 3 43:13

This weighs as much as 43 iron bathtubs. That doesn't tell me anything. That tells me no things.

Speaker 2 43:22

Anyway.

Speaker 4 43:25

So these monsters roughly resemble trees in their silhouettes, their trunks being their short little legs. In the top of the trees, represented by the ropey branching bodies, these abominations smell like an open grave. I didn't realize I was about to start shitting on this one.

Speaker 3 43:44

Well, it's just a mass of dead flesh, so like I'd hope it doesn't smell any different.

Speaker 4 43:49

These guys usually dwell in the woodlands that's not surprising, where Shub's cults are active and they are sometimes mistaken for Shogoths, which I could see because they're very roughly Well generalized looking like. They look the same, almost that, and Shogoths can kind of do whatever they fucking want. What's a Shogoth again?

Speaker 3 44:09

A big goop. It's the things that the elder things Remember the mountains of madness. When Lake and his crew had to go find the city, they got chased by that Shogoth that's like a puddle of goo. They're like bug things weren't they it's a puddle of goo that can essentially turn itself into whatever it wants.

Speaker 4 44:25

Pretty much Can't get Lots of eyeballs. It's a ditto.

Speaker 3 44:29

Yeah, ditto with several thousand more eyes and mouths. Yeah.

Speaker 4 44:34

All right, all right. So one means for summoning these guys are found in the book of Eben, and it requires a blood offering. The ritual may only be performed in the deep of the woodlands at the darkest of the moon, and a victim must be sacrificed over a stone altar. So, like I mentioned before, shub and her dark young are super easy to summon. Oh yeah, and the worst part about it in the mythos I guess not in real life, obviously is that there are so many of these fuckers that can control where these things are coming from. So dark young basically act as proxies for Shub and the accepting of sacrifices and their worship, and basically they devour non-cultists and spread Shub's faith across the world.

Speaker 3 45:28

Essentially, it's like the awakening the awakening for Azvath, like the awakening to the knowledge of him. It's very similar. If one of these fucking things shows up, I mean you're presented with a choice. Quote, quote, quote, quote.

Speaker 4 45:41

Well, I think that's a great way to put it too is because there's so many people that worship Shub. She can't obviously be everywhere at once, so she's just like spitting children out every fucking second, basically just like Christian missionaries. Right, no, like actually there are.

Speaker 5 45:56

Jehovah's Witnesses knocking at your door. Do you want to a copy of the watch tower? No, I don't. The size is no soliciting.

Speaker 3 46:03

This is the early 1900s version of a spam Zoom call. It's just with these dark young art.

Speaker 4 46:13

But other than that I did mention before, Shub and the Black Goat might not be the same person. Jason, you have a little bit more on that.

Speaker 3 46:24

So usually when we mention Shub, we also mention the Black Goat with a thousand young, the Black Goat of the Woods, like that, or the Black Goat of the Woods with a thousand young, like there's just a fun that you can say it any which way. However, goat of the Woods, black Goat of the Woods, black Thousand of with young throat, yeah, got it Throw.

Speaker 1 46:46

Goat.

Speaker 3 46:47

Oh, my God. God damn it Okay.

Speaker 4 46:51

It does have a lot of mouth.

Speaker 1 46:52

The 14th throat goat, all right.

Speaker 3 46:53

There's a whole thing I'm on now fuck Okay. So yeah, 35.

Speaker 2 47:03

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Speaker 3 47:09

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Speaker 5 47:15

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Speaker 4 47:20

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Speaker 3 47:22

God, I thought our, like our followers, would be called something like, you know, welcome, welcoming to society, but no, og, sex pervert, here we go. So I know we just got done talking about how the black goat of the woods and with a thousand young, was Shub Negarath, and that's all of the different ways that we can call her that and why we call her that. A man named Rodolfo Farra Farraresi wrote an essay called the question of Shub Negarath and in this he basically states that Lovecraft himself separated the two, like the two different beings of Shub and the black goat, into two entities within his own writings, and a couple of examples of this are out of the aeons, which was written in 1935. And there's a distinction that is made between Shub and the black goat. That's weird, especially when you're trying to give one thing a nickname and then tell everyone that, nope, these are two separate things.

Speaker 3 48:32

Oh shit, oh shit, oh shit, yep Shit. But so, yes, that's a very, very persuasive distinction. But the most persuasive distinction is actually made. It makes the depiction that the black goat is a male. So when you see the words black goat in Lovecraftian writings, they're basically alluding to the fact that the black goat is a male, and it's most notably in the right, performed within the whisper in the darkness. So no, I know I mentioned Chubb being in the whisper in the darkness, however called the Lord of the Woods instead, the Black Goat actually might be a personification, a perverse.

Speaker 2 49:21

This is what I thought too.

Speaker 3 49:24

Personification of Pan, because Lovecraft actually actually was enthralled by Arthur Machin's the Great God Pan, which is a story that was written in Old, old story Old, old old. 1890 is when this was written, and it was a story that was. It probably inspired the Dunwich Horror. If you guys have not read that yet, please go fucking read it, it's so damn good.

Speaker 4 49:52

It's very, very good. It's on par with the there's also a movie that's not great, but it's it's not great. Worth the watch.

Speaker 3 49:56

If you like Lovecraft, go watch it, but I will say that Dunwich Horror is on par with like at the mountains of madness. It's same caliber. It's so fucking good. What the hell was that?

Speaker 4 50:10

What was that? I just heard the weirdest noise in my headset.

Speaker 5 50:14

I think that was just moot.

Speaker 2 50:16

Was it me? I stretched my neck in a really weird way.

Speaker 3 50:19

Oh, I don't know, maybe that's I don't know, just in regard Doug's just losing it.

Speaker 4 50:25

Um where was I? So I got a question. Sex perverts.

Speaker 5 50:31

What the-? Um? This doesn't have to pertain too much to Shub as much as it does like Lovecraft stuff in general. So in Lovecraft it kinda those questions spawn because you have this thing being called the Black Goat. And again I'm just, I don't know if it's meant to be a reference to Black Philip or not, but like. So the question came up to me because Black Philip in Biblical sense is the devil. Just-. But so my question in Lovecraft universe is there like Christian religion?

Speaker 3 51:11

I think he just did the rest of my job for me.

Speaker 5 51:13

And if there is, does that also mean that there, because if these gods are real, does that also mean that like Christian gods can be real, like angels and shit like that as well in this universe.

Speaker 3 51:22

I am gonna read the next sentence that I was going to read and I think it might answer. Let's see. So in the Dunwich Horror. This is so I'm we're making the argument that the Black Goat is actually a man, a male, not.

Speaker 4 51:37

Shub Basically Shub's like what?

Speaker 5 51:41

First Sona. It's like an earthly form.

Speaker 3 51:44

Not like the cosmic form of Shub.

Speaker 4 51:47

It's basically how Shub is worshiped through the Black Goat, like if you see a Black Goat.

Speaker 3 51:53

On earth through humanity's eyes.

Speaker 4 51:55

That's important, that's a very important distinction. Which is exactly yeah, so, yeah so in the Dunwich Horror 1929.

Speaker 3 52:04

For anyone who cares in this incarnation of Shub the Black Goat is it actually might represent the devil or Satan, I did it, or Black Phillip.

Speaker 4 52:17

Half man, half goat, half bear.

Speaker 2 52:19

And Mike says he's not smart. You are very smart, my guy.

Speaker 3 52:23

Sometimes I pull it out, so he's in the form of a Seder which is half man, half goat. Now in folklore what do you just?

Speaker 5 52:36

What does he have? What did I just hear? No, you're talking about the Seder.

Speaker 3 52:41

No, I don't think I was Okay.

Speaker 2 52:44

Mike's got a half Shub. I'm trying to keep it concealed.

Speaker 4 52:49

Now you're just shoving it.

Speaker 3 52:52

And you're just shoving off, shoving over your ass. Fuck it, fuck it. Okay. So in Whisper in the Darkness we get the male version of the Black Goat, which a lot of people think alludes to Lucifer Satan himself, simply because he's depicted as half man, half Seder, which is identical to how Lucifer Satan is perceived or depicted within the Bible. So might be a guy the Black Goat might refer to See. This is where my gears start turning. So if this refers to Satan, right, that means that Lovecraft himself has built in an explanation for theism on Earth and has tied all of it to this Black Goat, the Seder, half man, half goat type.

Speaker 2 53:51

Yeah, that was about to be. My question Was like does Christianity exist in the Lovecraftian universe?

Speaker 1 53:57

That's what I it does.

Speaker 4 53:59

And so does the whole pantheon of Roman Greek gods, all of that kind of. So are they all real in this world?

Speaker 5 54:08

Like is Jesus real? Like is he real? In this too, no Nodens is for sure real.

Speaker 3 54:12

Nodens is real.

Speaker 4 54:14

He actually Nodens, is a big, big fucking. So that's it's funny. It's like almost some of those, some of those big deities that we hear in those other pantheons.

Speaker 3 54:23

Zeus and.

Speaker 4 54:23

Ketzakotl are almost the same, yeah, and they almost don't even matter, though, like they're. Not that they don't matter, but they're almost irrelevant in the battle of like.

Speaker 3 54:34

Oh for Hyperborea, for the battle for Earth like.

Speaker 4 54:36

Yeah, because, like you know, take Atlantis, Basically Atlantis got fucked and Zeus was just kind of like what.

Speaker 5 54:45

So is Aquaman a.

Speaker 4 54:46

Lovecraftian creature Aquaman is a piece of shit. He can fucking die.

Speaker 3 54:50

Yes, actually, I don't know. Actually, no, 100%. Hear me out.

Speaker 4 54:53

Aquaman I'm talking about the One from, like you know.

Speaker 1 54:58

Both Super.

Speaker 4 54:58

Friends. The early, like the early one.

Speaker 5 55:01

From the Super Friends. Yeah, thank you. What's the SpongeBob one? The, oh uh, mermaid man. Mermaid man and Barnacle Boy and Barnacle Boy, particle man.

Speaker 3 55:08

Technically is Lovecraftian because, think about it Aquaman, barnacle, boy, mermaid Like they can all talk to ant, like sea creatures, right, mm-hmm, I would say a solid, a solid. 40 to 50% of the Lovecraftian mythos is made up of fucking sea creatures. Yeah, yeah, the deep ones and whatnot.

Speaker 4 55:28

Show guys. Well, they're all very creatures, sea creatures, squid-like.

Speaker 3 55:30

Like they all formed what we know as sea creatures. So like the show guys from that.

Speaker 2 55:35

I think all the creatures had a fetish.

Speaker 3 55:37

Yeah, oh, absolutely Didn't want to admit it, but here we are.

Speaker 2 55:42

There was like some super secret books that he wrote that were like his own composition notebook of I would love to get one Thrills for Gills yeah.

Speaker 3 55:55

We've got Wet, hot Alasaur Summer. He had Thrills for Gills.

Speaker 4 55:58

Well, I mean, it's like the boys. Oh, my God yeah, what's his name?

Speaker 3 56:02

The Deep one.

Speaker 4 56:03

Deep, the Deep.

Speaker 5 56:04

The Deep. Yes, I do the Deep yeah the Deep with the gills.

Speaker 4 56:07

He liked to put it into octopus.

Speaker 3 56:09

Not going to lie that sex scene where that girl like fingered his gills.

Speaker 4 56:13

Maybe he's super uncomfortable. There's a lot of things in the boys that are uncomfortable, but 100%, but anyways, where are we?

Speaker 3 56:22

You just talked all about the, the dark young, correct?

Speaker 4 56:25

No, you just finished. The black girl, oh no, I just finished that up.

Speaker 3 56:28

Yep, okay, cool. So where can we find this goat?

Speaker 4 56:34

Well, we've talked about a lot of this in this section already. A little bit here and there That'll happen. Where Shubb remains is a mystery. I'm going to leave it at that. For the most part, we've got, you know, the hypothesis that they're on planet Yedith Yep underneath, we've underneath the surface, which resides with its dual survivors. That makes probably no sense to anyone and that's fine, you have to know the story.

Speaker 4 57:00

So it is also postulated that R L Tyranny is the Lord of Pain. A book that was also written about the black goat is that they came to Earth. They built the city of Herig-Kolath in a cavern beneath southern Arabia, though it's possible that the cavern and Herig-Kolath exist counterminiously with Yedith and that they're both linked to it. That's a whole thing that I don't actually understand. I'm not sure what that whole thing is, but those are words and a sentence.

Speaker 3 57:34

Essentially, what it means is that here let's just make this easy there are several opinions that exist throughout the Lovecraft mythos about Shubnigaroth, about where the point of origination is. We don't agree, not even close.

Speaker 4 57:53

Yeah, pretty much that's about it. There's another lady that wrote about it, Len Carter.

Speaker 3 58:00

Wonder.

Speaker 4 58:00

Woman Wonder.

Speaker 3 58:02

Woman wrote a story called the Horror in the Gallery.

Speaker 4 58:09

But she claims that Shubnigaroth came to Earth from Yedith in the prehistoric times but was actually sent back to Yedith by the Elder Gods, which I would love to know the story behind that, because I'm not actually sure about what happened there. But it's also possible that Shubnigaroth remains at the court of Esoth, like we mentioned. That's what I think. Who knows? Who cares?

Speaker 3 58:29

All of us, Doug.

Speaker 5 58:32

Do you think a T-Rex could beat any of the old ones?

Speaker 3 58:36

No, I fucking know, you've ever seen their arms. They barely have, and no one's arms?

Speaker 5 58:42

No, I haven't they actually don't have arms. Okay, what about a deep one?

Speaker 3 58:47

Who would?

Speaker 2 58:47

win a deep one or a T-Rex Deep one.

Speaker 5 58:50

There's no dinosaur that's going to beat an elder that will kill Lovecraft in the hour. What?

Speaker 2 58:57

about a.

Speaker 4 58:57

Lovecraft.

Speaker 5 58:58

Oh yeah, what about that?

Speaker 4 58:59

one. Okay well, maybe a dinosaur could kill fucking Wilbur Whaley.

Speaker 3 59:04

No fuck no what, they just eat him.

Speaker 4 59:07

Y'all forget about copies.

Speaker 3 59:08

We gotta go into that. That's for another time. That's another, maybe our next Cthulhu corner.

Speaker 5 59:14

Will a T-Rex beat? What about a Megalodon? Yeah, it's a.

Speaker 2 59:18

T-Rex shark.

Speaker 1 59:21

What about one punch man?

Speaker 4 59:22

I'd be in chess.

Speaker 5 59:25

I'll end this in one punch, man, is that? It Is that where we ended on this. Yeah, that's everything, man, hell, yeah. So you guys, can you give me, I guess, what you think Shub looks like to you? What is the vision? What does this describe what you think I like?

Speaker 2 59:42

that you've got a mouth cloud.

Speaker 4 59:46

My favorite. I'll pull it up, but my favorite is the Cthulhu Wars version.

Speaker 3 59:51

That's a good one. The mist, yeah, because, like honestly, it reminds me of the mist, oh yeah.

Speaker 5 59:58

I wonder if that's supposed to be because he was influenced on the one where the dude kills all of his family at the end.

Speaker 4 1:00:03

Spoilers.

Speaker 3 1:00:05

Whoa, terry shows up. He's like ah, we're all gonna die, I'm gonna kill you, so you don't have to deal with it.

Speaker 5 1:00:11

I'm gonna kill you so you don't die.

Speaker 3 1:00:15

We're here to help you. He's like fuck.

Speaker 5 1:00:19

FEMA here yeah pretty much. So, yeah, Red Cross came and they helped him. So you think it's the mist.

Speaker 3 1:00:32

Mine.

Speaker 5 1:00:35

Like do either of you think of the Black Goat?

Speaker 3 1:00:37

This one, he knows.

Speaker 4 1:00:39

so he has Cthulhu Wars, which means I'm sending the pictures of the discord so you guys can see. I'm not looking you want the death made die one it's indescribable though.

Speaker 5 1:00:55

What does it look like? Tell me with your eyes.

Speaker 2 1:00:58

Look with your special eyes it looks like a hippo. A hippo is the front of it got so infected that it just became a fleshy mass, and then some tentacles grew out.

Speaker 5 1:01:16

That is the thing. From the mist. That's the thing from the mist.

Speaker 3 1:01:20

That's the thing from the words on its face. That's from Cthulhu Wars. So that's the one that he has, that board game, so he looks at that all the time.

Speaker 4 1:01:28

That's kind of what he thinks.

Speaker 3 1:01:30

That second one.

Speaker 5 1:01:32

The tumor with screaming mouths that's flying through the woods. Purple sperm made of mouths.

Speaker 3 1:01:37

That is to me anyway.

Speaker 1 1:01:39

I prefer that one I like that one.

Speaker 5 1:01:43

That one looks cooler. This looks like a bore with an underbite.

Speaker 2 1:01:51

It's got goat hooves Quest objective.

Speaker 3 1:01:54

Go kill 40 boars, kill garlath in the farting hills of Eldervale.

Speaker 2 1:02:02

No, I was like at more along the lines of yeah, kill 30 of these fucking things.

Speaker 3 1:02:06

Yeah, it's a grind class, so that's kind of what Doug and I think is what this entity looks like.

Speaker 5 1:02:14

Where does Shub stand on your list? Is it one of your faves? Shub is actually one of my favorites.

Speaker 4 1:02:20

I literally always play Shub in Cthulhu Wars. Yeah because it's creature counters. I can just spit out Shit tokens. I can summon creatures at any gate that I own without Cthulhu.

Speaker 3 1:02:36

Wars, by the way, is really gnarly, just with Cthulhu.

Speaker 4 1:02:40

I like that. That sounds awesome. I wouldn't say it's in my top three, but it's definitely one of my favorites, for sure.

Speaker 5 1:02:48

Is it in top ten?

Speaker 4 1:02:50

Definitely top ten, top ten, cthulhu creatures.

Speaker 5 1:02:53

number one, number one.

Speaker 1 1:02:56

Shub.

Speaker 3 1:02:59

Shub's a good one.

Speaker 4 1:03:00

I like fungal Number one, cthulhu, mischievous Creature War.

Speaker 3 1:03:06

I like Shub, it's all. The only reason Shub exists is to make more creatures. In reality, that's kind of what it is.

Speaker 1 1:03:18

It's a creature factory. It's a monster factory.

Speaker 3 1:03:23

Creature creation. It's a creature collection.

Speaker 5 1:03:26

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Speaker 3 1:04:27

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Speaker 2 1:05:29

The perfect thing is that like that is triggering Discord to mute the audio, so it's actually just completely cutting Cool Love.

Speaker 5 1:05:36

That that's great. Nobody can hear it the third time.

Speaker 3 1:05:38

Yeah, great, as soon as you guys told me that that it's too loud for Discord. I'm like oh, so I can just erase audio Awesome.

Speaker 5 1:05:46

But yeah, and then come find our. You know our link tree at linktreecomcom, deloodypod, all that good stuff, and you can also find. Go to our Discord. Our Discord is fun, we're in there all the time and you'll find our. Well, all the time he means Tuesday, tuesday's day, you'll find my monthly game night where I go in there with a moot and a Jason sometimes and a Doug sometimes and we play video games once a month and you guys get to be involved, which is great.

Speaker 5 1:06:12

So stop on in and have a good time. And I'm going to say, Doug, show me, give me the thing that you gave me today, give me the thing, the thing, give me the thing. Doug was nice enough to give me a gift today, so Doug had a bad time and he went to the we're going to freehand it.

Speaker 5 1:06:32

I'm not freehanding that, I will. He went to the mouth doctor and got his tooth yanked out. Yeah, and he got his tooth yanked out. Fuck it, I'll hold it. I have Doug's essence in my hand right now. This is Doug's tooth. I have it right here.

Speaker 1 1:06:42

That's a big old fucking.

Speaker 5 1:06:43

It's a gross thing. I don't want to hold this anymore because it has to. It's got his flesh on it still.

Speaker 3 1:06:49

So I'm touching. He's got his nerve right oh don't drop it.

Speaker 5 1:06:53

It's fragile. Yeah, I own a piece of Doug, so if I ever want to make a voodoo doll of Doug, I now have all the correct pieces I need. Yeah, if you feel a sudden pain, it's because I'm stabbing your doll body. Jason, do you have anything to say to the people?

Speaker 3 1:07:09

Oh God, stay fucking paranoid, especially about the shit that you don't understand, can't comprehend, won't understand, I don't care which, but just know that we're all going to die someday. So have fun with the time you have.

Speaker 5 1:07:23

Moon. Well, you guys say people.

Speaker 2 1:07:25

Go to deludicom and get your OG sex pervert pens. And when people at work come up to me and say, hey, I heard you have a podcast, I respond by saying I wish you didn't know that about me, hey.

Speaker 1 1:07:40

Matt. Matt, it's the same with me because I'm surrounded by surgeons. I hear you have a podcast, nope.

Speaker 5 1:07:50

No.

Speaker 1 1:07:50

I don't no.

Speaker 5 1:07:52

Yeah, this one guy at my job, this guy, one guy at my job tried to get me to follow his clothing brand and everything on everything, and he was like oh man, do you have anything for me to follow?

Speaker 1 1:08:03

It was like oh, no, no, no, no, I don't do anything.

Speaker 5 1:08:10

I have a podcast and he's like oh, wow, what's it called?

Neighbor Knows I'm a Loser

Speaker 3 1:08:16

Oh, it's called my brother. My brother, I had that moment.

Speaker 2 1:08:19

I think maybe I've told this story, but I had that moment with my neighbor. I was leaving to go out of town when I had just very recently moved to this house and I was going.

Speaker 5 1:08:28

Are you moved from to work on the?

Speaker 2 1:08:31

I was having to see you guys. And I was like, oh, I'm going out of town for a couple of days. And he was like, oh, keep an eye on the place where you going. And I was like, oh, I'll just see some people. And then I just like said something about the podcast and I was like Fuck, fuck, now, my neighbor knows too much about me.

Speaker 3 1:08:46

Now my neighbor knows that I'm a fucking loser.

Speaker 4 1:08:49

I'm an OG sex pervert.

Speaker 3 1:08:53

Holy shit, that's going to become synonymous with Ludi, and I don't know how I feel about that.

Speaker 5 1:08:57

Well, Doug, let's go.

Speaker 4 1:08:59

Doug, you say people do go Speaking of sex perverts. All of y'all. Take out your pain and for the other half, take out your being. Slap that shit together. That's really all we can do in this, in this trying time.

Speaker 5 1:09:14

You know sweet dog.

Speaker 4 1:09:16

I. It came from the heart.

Speaker 3 1:09:17

Yeah that I'm butt cry, I can see the tear rolling down your cheek.

Speaker 4 1:09:25

Jason's that also being said Thanks everybody for coming out, as per usual.

Speaker 2 1:09:30

And fuck.

Speaker 1 1:09:30

Corbin, kentucky, and everything they stand for. So.

Speaker 4 1:09:33

Oh, hi, everyone, we love you, goodbye.