Don't Look Under the Internet
Don't Look Under the Internet
DLUTI 150 - Sad Satan
Mike, Jason, and Doug step into filthy waters today. Sad Satan is known throughout the online community as a mysterious game, found on the dark web. This one strikes a nerve for DLUTI and we have a few things to say. We navigate through the murky waters of "Sad Satan," the dark web's most elusive game, drawing fascinating parallels to the fading intrigue of an old hoodie and the enigmatic aura of its creator, ZK. Join us, and be part of a conversation that's as thought-provoking as it is entertaining.
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Speaker 1:We'll see you next time. Fucking Craig Didn't mean to do that.
Speaker 4:The poo-poo pasta.
Speaker 1:Poo-poo, pee-pee pasta.
Speaker 3:I have poo-poo, pee-pee pasta. So who's covering?
Speaker 4:what I don't give a shit. Yeah, we haven't really talked about that. I apologize for the quality of the outline. I was on call all weekend so I was like trying to figure that out in between cases, Mike what are you covering?
Speaker 2:I mean, I put my name by creepy pasta.
Speaker 3:So, I think we're good Basically. The last one, the last two points are just things we can all talk about Honestly.
Speaker 2:we can just kind of wing this all together.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think that's fine, honestly, yeah, cause I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 2:I I watched so much of this shit today that like I don't think I could like tell you what it is in, like a cohesive, like linear thing. But the moment, like Doug mentions something, I'm going to be like, oh, and they brought up. Sir Isaac Boop-Boop-Bee-Bee-Butt and this, and I'm like my brain's going to register.
Speaker 4:I think your brain and my brain work very similarly, because mine operates off breadcrumbs.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 4:So brain work very similarly. Because mine stupid, no, mine operates off breadcrumbs, oh yeah, so, like I might, like face value, forget fucking everything. But if you mention a small sliver of a detail around something that was happening around the thing I'm supposed to remember, I'll remember fucking everything about it. You know what I'll remember the alamo.
Speaker 3:The alamo and 9-11. Oh, I forgot already actually actually Hello everybody.
Speaker 2:Welcome to Don't Look Under the Internet, Hello.
Speaker 3:We're live on that one, we are.
Speaker 2:And this is a show about internet, about horror and about comedy. Is it about comedy? It could be comedy sometimes.
Speaker 3:It is comedy. This one not so much. It's definitely not about comedy. I wouldn't say, yeah, I do the funny. This one not so much. It's definitely not about comedy. I wouldn't say, yeah, I do the funny.
Speaker 4:We are funny, yes, but we don't. I do da funny. I don't think he's understanding.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 3:I don't know if we're funny on purpose, though I think we fall into funny on accident.
Speaker 4:I think we stumble ass backwards. I don't. I'm always funny. Y'all are wrong on that one that's Jason.
Speaker 2:Hello, that's Doug, yo.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, doug's back Actual Doug and I'm. He's less pretty this time.
Speaker 2:And I'm. That's fair. I'm Matt Ooh, look at me. I'm Matt Ooh, owie, owie, ooh, owie, owie, I'm.
Speaker 4:Matt.
Speaker 3:I'm Matt says.
Speaker 4:Mike's fucking Slogan. I Matt says Mike's fucking slogan.
Speaker 2:I'm Matt. Look at me Hurdy, dirty, dirty.
Speaker 3:You know, how he typically says that this is how we'll know if he listens to the episodes or not when he's not in them.
Speaker 4:We're just going to get a fuck. You Probably.
Speaker 2:Matt's not here today, but I do want to give a shout out to my boy. He's got his masters now.
Speaker 3:Hell yeah.
Speaker 1:He's a master daddy, master daddy moot everyone at home.
Speaker 3:I just want you to go ahead and say hauser, md moody, hauser, md moody hauser md.
Speaker 2:Um, no, I'm mike, not matt. I know I tricked you all fooled, fooled you, you dumb fucking fools, idiots. I'm gonna start this off with a good old, traditional, dilutey clap house above your head. This off with a good old traditional dilutey Clap Above your head. Have a few names that I want to talk about here, While he does this? Remember we're going to play name or no name.
Speaker 3:Bad name or good name?
Speaker 2:right Name good.
Speaker 4:Name good maybe bad though, are we going to use the rating system of how many don'ts look into the?
Speaker 2:internet. No, that's a rating system for the topic.
Speaker 3:Oh, right right.
Speaker 2:Would you recommend someone looking into that? This is a rating of how dumb you are and how dumb your name is.
Speaker 3:So the first name we have. We'll see a shot and then we'll gauge.
Speaker 2:The first name I have here is Milk Steak Milk.
Speaker 4:Steak 11 out of 10. Good name, yeah. Milk steak 11 out of 10. Good name, yeah.
Speaker 3:Doug, you agree, it's all right, it's fine.
Speaker 2:It's a good one. Yeah, Thank you. Milk steak have you ever had a milk steak?
Speaker 3:No, I only have sloppy steaks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I had a side of jelly beans raw once, but not the milk steak.
Speaker 4:It's where you boil steak in milk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm aware of it's a Charlie Day special.
Speaker 3:Are you familiar with sloppy steaks, though? Yes, Just pour some water on them, you pour water on steak.
Speaker 2:It's delicious Sloppy steak.
Speaker 3:They really don't like you doing that in the restaurant. No, you should be doing that at home.
Speaker 2:Let's just go on quoting the rest of the episode.
Speaker 3:Yeah, seriously we could. I think you should leave, yes.
Speaker 2:I think you should. We also have Bernard Fingle, bernard Fingle.
Speaker 4:Fantastic name because it definitely makes me laugh. I do want to say that is probably your actual name and I'm sorry that it makes me laugh.
Speaker 2:You're bringing happiness into my life. If anyone has the last name Fingle, I just assume that they know that they're going to be laughed at High school was a bad time.
Speaker 3:Please can you send Mr Fingle? Can you, mr Fingle?
Speaker 2:Don't call him mr or mr or. My father's name is mr fingal.
Speaker 3:You can call me bernard uh, bernard, will you send us an email with all the things people used to call you?
Speaker 2:be fingal at gmailcom be fingal. We're sorry, bernard, we love your name. 12 out of 10.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4:Hey, you got us to talk about it for a while.
Speaker 3:Oh no.
Speaker 4:B-Fingle.
Speaker 1:This is so bad.
Speaker 4:We're not even going to make it past this. This is just the episode. It's good to have you back.
Speaker 2:Douglas.
Speaker 3:It's good to be back.
Speaker 2:That is it for our shout outs, but I do have a little bit more housekeeping that I want to uh get to. I'm scared also is it?
Speaker 3:uh, fingo bells, that's a good one. I'm sure they heard that before.
Speaker 2:Um, anyway, I'm done now, fingle, don't worry um, so have some other, you know, housekeeping that we want to attend to hi hey, we're getting.
Speaker 3:Usually this happens to me, but, mike, are you recording video?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah sweet, I watched him do it I know right um so we got a rhythm going yeah, good, we uh, we made the donation today for we did it.
Speaker 3:Uh from deludathon we actually did it a while ago. You're hearing this in the future, oh, right, yes, about a week ago.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's true. Yeah, we did it about a week ago.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's true. Yeah, we did it about a week ago, about six days ago, for those listening, it was 5-7-2024.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so six days ago.
Speaker 2:Really dated, dated.
Speaker 4:Can I just say I'm so proud that all three of us were on the same page.
Speaker 3:We got through that without someone being like.
Speaker 4:Wait, wait what. But it's not that I was very close, hell go go forward.
Speaker 3:Mike's about to do it. Go forward, I can see it brewing in his mouth it's brewing here.
Speaker 2:I could tell you that much good, this is empty right now, so I just want to go ahead and say I just want to say thank you to everybody again for, uh, helping the cause and helping with the donations and everything um. The sweaters were ordered again at the time of this recording.
Speaker 3:The sweater.
Speaker 2:And the shirt and the gift card. All that stuff had been ordered and sent out. So if you haven't gotten your thing yet, for the winners of the that's a premature Premature to ask them to do that.
Speaker 3:One more episode from now.
Speaker 2:No, I mean if you haven't gotten it, If you haven't gotten it in one more episode.
Speaker 4:If you haven't gotten it, in one more episode. Yeah, if you haven't gotten it yet, be on the lookout. That's what I was going to say, because we sent it out.
Speaker 2:Now we are known to drop balls sometimes. Yeah, but be on the lookout if you haven't already gotten it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so we would have made this donation a while ago, but YouTube decided that they weren't going to pay us for a long time for some reason they go.
Speaker 4:You know what? We don't think you. We're going to hold it for a month. They held it actually much longer than they said they were going to.
Speaker 3:This was our first payout from YouTube. By the way, it probably falls into line with that.
Speaker 4:I'm sure you guys would want to hear about all of this though.
Speaker 2:It makes me sad. What Hail.
Speaker 3:Satan.
Speaker 2:Hail Satan. That concludes.
Speaker 4:I wore the right shirt.
Speaker 2:Cool. That concludes Dooley Housekeeping. But yeah, like I said, some things make me sad and some things make me feel a little devilish. A little you know, fun and sassy, but mostly sad.
Speaker 4:Would you like to hear about our Lord and Savior Satan?
Speaker 3:Scared and horny.
Speaker 2:Or how about the other Lord and Savior who comes up in this, named Baphomet? Baphomet, baphomet, no, no, no, no one pronounces it correctly.
Speaker 3:I know I've noticed.
Speaker 2:The guy Baphomet, baphomet, baphomet.
Speaker 3:And.
Speaker 2:I'm like are you stupid?
Speaker 1:Are you barfing?
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I'm sad because I played a video game and I did not win. Instead, I found things that I did not enjoy. Yeah, almost all of it, almost all of it, and I did not play the video game. But that's the bird scooter to talking about a video game we're talking about.
Speaker 1:Rad Satan.
Speaker 4:No, autocorrect Turn. Autocorrect off. Turn auto-cucumber off.
Speaker 2:Tubular Rad Satan. No, we're talking about Sad Satan, sad Satan this is a honestly it I'm talking about tubular rat Satan.
Speaker 4:No, we're talking about sad.
Speaker 1:Satan.
Speaker 4:Sad, satan, sad. This is a honestly, it's a long time coming, even though it's not that old.
Speaker 1:No, it's not Like what 2015?. Yeah 2015.
Speaker 2:People were edgy in 2015. They were. People are still edgy. Big old trigger warning. Yes.
Speaker 4:Heads up. Let's just fucking do this right off the bat Rip the band-aid off. I'm sure we're going to do this again at least one time. There's a huge trigger warning in this episode.
Speaker 3:Let's just refer to it as CP CP.
Speaker 2:Mild corn, we can't.
Speaker 3:Mild corns. I don't think we should even say the actual words ever in this.
Speaker 1:No Because of the algorithm or the SEO. Yes, I the algorithm or the SEO yes.
Speaker 4:Let's just I don't want to be on a list. This, this episode is going to deal with some things.
Speaker 1:That is not exactly good not good at all.
Speaker 4:It's not fun to talk about, it's not fun to know that it exists. Just know that it deals with the exploitation and distribution of media and materials relating to and having to do with people that tend to be minors.
Speaker 3:And it's on the internet so you know we had to talk about it, we had to talk about it.
Speaker 2:Oh sick Survivor game.
Speaker 4:I've wanted to do this topic simply because of the hype that it garnered around it, but also, we're not really going to be deep diving this per se.
Speaker 3:we're gonna be kind of giving you the tldr and then we're gonna talk about it.
Speaker 2:To be talking about this topic with the whole kendrick drake, oh, yeah, rap.
Speaker 3:I don't have time to listen to 30 minutes worth of fucking rap, kendrick wrecked his ass. You wrecked his ass and he told like you know, like uh with his penis way, or like uh with his with his pee, pee yeah that's sick. He struck a chord and it was a minor I think I've been seeing stuff about that and his like house. Okay, this is bonus material, we're getting the bonus yeah, we are.
Speaker 2:We can go to that later, but again, like, aside from being a pervert yeah, all we want to say is this is horrible time for me, though, because back in, I'm sorry back in 2011, because you're a pervert too, and now it's not cool to be a pervert exactly. No used to love drake take care was one of my favorite albums for a long time. That I will. I will say that was drake's last good album came out about 2011. I want to say, and I bought an OVO hoodie bought an OVO hoodie.
Speaker 2:I haven't worn it in like 10 years and, um, I brought it out of the closet the other day because I was like I should try to sell this and this beef happened, and I think the resale value has diminished just a smidge.
Speaker 3:There's going to be that like one weird like Drake stan.
Speaker 4:That's like I need this hoodie either way, this episode episode is gonna deal with some heavy stuff. Um, we're gonna try and avoid the majority of said heavy stuff, simply because we know what that entails. Instead, we would very much like to tell you guys just a. It's a story about a, an internet. I don't even call it a legend like a hype phenomenon yeah, it's, it's labeled you can find people labeling it as a creepy pasta.
Speaker 2:I don't find that accurate at all.
Speaker 4:There is. There is a creepy pasta that was spawned from this, but it's actually really bad.
Speaker 3:It's real bad because it's just here, all right. So let me tldr what sad satan is before we get into the nitty-gritties of it. So, um, it's a horror video game. Um, it was released in 2025 or 2015. Sorry, we haven't hit 2025 yet. Um, basically, it was allegedly created by a dark web user operating under the pseudonym of zk. Um, we'll go over that later on. Um, and then, uh, in the game, basically, this player walks down some dimly lit corridors. It's a first person kind of like view.
Speaker 3:It's a walking simulator, if I had to say anything about it um, if you're familiar with a walking simulator, a lot of horror games like to go that route, because it's really easy to put you in a, you know, a narrative where you're just walking and things are happening and it's spooky. It's just a very typical horror trope for video games and it's so scaly uh yeah for you, but yeah, there's really no goals, there's no win conditions in this, and we only get this in the form of some let's plays, uh, from a guy uh named. Uh, what is it?
Speaker 1:obscure horror corner.
Speaker 3:Thank you, obscure horror corner or jamie, whatever you want to call um, but yeah, again, so much trigger warnings. Uh, we're gonna go over stuff that loosely deals with, uh, child abuse. Yeah, and some cp, some mild corn, as mike likes to say. Um, but otherwise, uh, yeah, uh, park your asses, grab a snack and strap in for this one, because it's it's mildly fine to do.
Speaker 4:No, it's. I want to say like I know we've kind of outlined this as being something horrendous and terrible and like the, the one version of it that exists is um. However, that does lead me to bring up the fact that there are several versions of this there's. Yeah, are you good on like what like?
Speaker 3:yeah, I mean uh you want to add about like what it is I think the only thing that, uh, I guess, are you going straight into both versions or do you want to kind of tldr, like the gameplay a little bit? Um, I mean, that's up to you. If you want to take that, you can, otherwise I can. I've got a lot more to say about the two.
Speaker 4:The gameplay is little bit. Um, I mean, that's up to you. If you want to take that, you can, otherwise I can. I've got a lot more to say about the two. The gameplay is very simple.
Speaker 3:Yeah, let me I'll go over the gameplay just a smidge. Um, so there's a series of five videos, um, that obscure horror corner put out and it's just them playing this game. Um, I'll, I'll leave out the. I'm not going to go into every bit of detail, uh, but essentially, fifth isn't even up. The fifth isn't up anymore.
Speaker 4:Yeah yeah, I can take it down, but you're it's you have a link if anybody wants to see it. I will say nobody should look out, seek out this video by themselves for any reason whatsoever yeah, do yourself a favor and don't be put on a list.
Speaker 3:Don't do not get put on a list. Yeah, so long story short. Uh, basically it's a really dark, like a black and white, almost setting. You see somebody walking around. Everything's really distorted, there's really nothing. Um, notably that you can really make out like you know that they're in some sort of hallways and like they're moving from room to room. Then they're seeing, you know, maybe like bloodied up people, little girls, like stuff like that kind of. Along the way. There's a lot of splicing that, I think, is happening where the to me at least, it looks like they're adding things in that aren't actually in the video game, but that's to be debated yeah, though a little further, when they're walking, you'll see random pop-ups of like images of um, like you'll get some of like jfk right before he was assassinated.
Speaker 3:You'll get the otaku killer. The otaku killer. Um, you'll get, uh, some people who were involved in some predatory situations and the funny thing is they're promoting the national, like protection of child like like society or something like that.
Speaker 2:The child protection, yeah, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4:Or whatever that? Yeah, you'll get some of fucking.
Speaker 2:Uh, what's his name? Um roman plansky?
Speaker 3:yeah there's a lot of uh, charles manson that you'll see in this uh, there's a lot of fucking um uh lex zeppelin uh but it's really, it's really weird.
Speaker 3:So like all, all of the let's plays are really similar, like there's really nothing of difference from them, besides some of the little things you see here and there which is honestly like, oh, he's going down a hallway and oh, there's like a bloody little girl. And oh, now he's in a room and oh, there's something else now, and then the next video it's like oh, he's going down a hallway and oh, there's some little girls, and then it's like all right, like okay, whatever it's the.
Speaker 3:The gameplay is very mad at best, and it's it's a walking sim.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so yeah, it's almost.
Speaker 3:It's very repetitive the thing that I think brought people to this is less about the game and more about the origin, because, yes, if you were on the internet or have ever been on the internet, you know that they love to fucking snoop out shit. And so we get these like this whole big discussion about oh, here's this weird game and it's got all these weird things in it, like where did it come from? And then we have essentially the this jamie guy, this obscure horror corner, being like oh, like somebody sent it to me.
Speaker 2:Was this all outlined in that article? The Kotaku one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Kotaku says some stuff. I got a lot of my information just from watching a bunch of different people's videos.
Speaker 2:Yeah apparently not to cut you off. No you're fine not to cut you off, but the the way that this guy found this game is because his whole account was just based off of people sending him games and he plays them. Some random person sent him this game and that's why and that's what he claimed.
Speaker 3:But he also claims that he found it on the dark web.
Speaker 3:Yep, so his story changed a couple times and you'll notice this throughout the whole story actually yeah, 100, and I can make the distinction between those two things once we get a little bit further into actually once you're into your part, we can go over that a little bit yeah, and I mean, all you really have to know about the game is it's really, if you look up the first video and you watch it, you'll see, you'll know all you need to know like honestly, at least it's like a context, like a setup for what you are getting yourself into watch all the videos if you really want to.
Speaker 3:Um, there's a really good video online. I forget who did it. I'll look it up real quick. Uh, because I'd like to credit them because, honestly, they did a really good job of outlining everything, yeah, um, but essentially it's like a great breakdown of, like the actual like full-blown timeline, um, which I thought was really good. But, uh, like I said, I think a lot of people come to the content to figure out if it's just another arg, and I think that's what a lot of people wanted to know, like, oh, is this bullshit or is this like a real dark web thing that is getting leaked to?
Speaker 3:yeah the not dark web, which is I think that's the.
Speaker 4:I think that's the mindset, like a a lot of people who listen to this podcast are in is like we're looking for the real. We want to separate the fake from the real. I will say, as the well, I'd say four, but Matt's not here but the three of us currently know that, while finding reality you might think it's fun, we have found reality several times and this is actually actually. This is going to be another one of those episodes where we have found reality and while, yes, it's nice to think that like it'd be cooler if it's real, I'm here to tell you that in no way, shape or form is it ever cooler if it's real. And every time we've done a real topic, like we've just ended up like just, we end up sad sad, but it's almost like it's bittersweet.
Speaker 4:It's bittersweet, though, because I'm happy that we're talking about it, to at least like elucidate that this shit fucking happens and these are the things to look out for. Well, this is it's like the first time, it's, it's it reminds me of like when we first started doing this. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And we did fucking Yay video games, yay, video games.
Speaker 4:That's what this reminded me of. And then we went oh, we all got so sad about it because it was real.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's not like even yeah, just finding out the whole story in the end.
Speaker 4:It was as.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it makes it less, not less entertaining, but almost like you feel bad about it.
Speaker 4:You're like ah, it's fiction. You're like this is a cool story, but with this it's like this is a cool story, but it happened to somebody yeah, and so right now we're on that line of what's happening.
Speaker 3:Is it real, is it fake? And that's what the internet wants to know, and that's what they've, that's what they've essentially come together on reddit to do. Yep is to figure out is it real or is it fake? And we're gonna define real and fake a bit more, a bit later, for sure and again I will say, we're not really trying to deep dive this topic super hard. We more just wanted to discuss it.
Speaker 3:I don't want to deep dive this, no, so if you, want a good deep dive and if you want a good like shorter video that will give you the timeline of everything, check out the gamer from mars on youtube. Um, they have a great video. It's really good. It lays everything out. Um, everything you need to know about it uh is in there. Uh, unless there's like updates in the past three years. I don't really know, but, um, yeah, so check them out. They have a really good deep dive. But this one I think we just wanted to discuss because we do tend to like the dark web topics, but sometimes they're hard to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so there are. I mean, like you kind of mentioned before, there's two versions of this game, but we're gonna get to the second one in a second. The first one I kind of want to dive back to a little bit, because that's where we kind of generate into the second one oh no, the first one.
Speaker 2:So as long as we're talking, the first one in the same regard probably not, but I just want to kind of yeah, go for it, man. Go down the line to how we got to. That second version is kind of what I mean, like how do we get there? And once once?
Speaker 4:well, okay, actually thinking about that, do you want me to give just kind of a like a breakdown of like what the differences between them might be, and then you can give the story of like how we got to the second one, if you would prefer that's? I mean it's. Do you think that would make more sense or less sense? I think?
Speaker 2:talking I think talking about the second version before get like talking how we got there is gonna throw people off okay, now I need to know what you think the second version is the one that the the edited or the unedited.
Speaker 4:The unedited. Okay, yeah, I agree that the dude was like I agree, here you go, I agree here's the pure content I thought you were saying like the, the second, as being like the revised content oh, we're like someone put out like the one that jay was like there was this one and then there was the next one where you can actually still play yeah, they removed all the. Yeah, I see what you're saying let's do it the way you're saying I. I think that's correct. How?
Speaker 3:about this. Since Jason has covered the two different versions, are you just looking for a rundown from?
Speaker 4:He's going to give a rundown. Okay, cool, I'm just going to get a rundown. He's going to give a rundown, do you?
Speaker 3:have an example of a rundown for me.
Speaker 2:Can you draw us a picture?
Speaker 4:I can call my dad and see if he can give you one when you're done, though I do. I have a comment from a user on uh, one of the the reddits that I looked at haha, fart in my eyes it's yeah, it's user fart. In my eyes, uh no. They just do a really good job of like running down and breaking down the differences between the versions, so please do your thing.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to go into detail on the versions that's fine. Yeah, I don't give a shit we don't fucking care bro fucking cared I don't know if this is staying in or not, but I'm gonna give it a whole college try college, try, you want to do a?
Speaker 4:oh yeah, okay, I'll do it. Fine, fuck you. What are we drinking? What are we thinking? There's a bottle here and it's empty yeah, so is all that staying in?
Speaker 3:no, we can edit around that for sure. I just figured yeah, why am I?
Speaker 2:Why am I doing this? I have a Coke I was gonna mix with.
Speaker 3:Because I put a glass and a bottle in front of me. Don't you think it'd be better to mix the Coke into that?
Speaker 2:cup. You're absolutely right. Why are you doing this? You put the Coke in the cup you drink it all up.
Speaker 1:That's why he has to drink more of the alcohol. That's fair.
Speaker 3:What are we drinking, Doug? We're drinking Clark and Sheffield because there was a sale for a full handle of whiskey for $21. And you know what we?
Speaker 1:said fuck it.
Speaker 2:We're about to drop a lot of money on a donation, so we're gonna get a cheap bottle of whiskey and I'm drinking the Evan Williams from last week, which I didn't realize how much of that I drank that day. Oh yeah, when you said there's about a half a bottle.
Speaker 4:I was like cool, we're going to pick up another bottle.
Speaker 2:I didn't realize how much of that I drank that day.
Speaker 3:Hey, I got half a bottle.
Speaker 4:I don't have half a bottle, it's gone.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 4:Well, when you hear the clink, you know what to fucking do.
Speaker 1:I don't tell you anymore, I'm not your goddamn mind Shotgun a beer up your butt. Boof a beer, boof a beer. Yummy, yummy, yummy in my tummy, tummy, tummy.
Speaker 2:Anyway. So, like we were mentioning before, there are two, I would say, main versions of this game. There is the one that we find from Obscure Horror Corner, there's one that we find from um obscure horror corner, there's one that we discover later on and there's one that is still playable to this day. This is bullshit, it's bullshit, bullshit. So a lot of this spawns the popular response from a kotaku article, um, where that's kind of what the jumping on, that's what kind of like the jumping wagon was you know what I?
Speaker 3:mean or whatever.
Speaker 2:Whatever the fucking phrase is you mean when?
Speaker 3:everyone jumped on the bandwagon yes, thank you.
Speaker 4:I need you to tell me right now what a jumping wagon is, it's the bandwagon similar to
Speaker 3:jumping beans what.
Speaker 4:I'm picturing is a wheeled horse driven bouncy house is what I'm pict, exactly what it is Okay.
Speaker 2:So it kind of spawned from there on that bandwagon, and in there you mean the jumping wagon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in there the Kotaku article writer starts to ask questions about this game to the obscure Horror Corner owner whose name is Jamie, and Jamie goes on to say things like oh, you know, I play these games that people send me. I got this game sent to me. They go to mix it up later on. We find out, um in in later, uh reddit comments. They go on to say things like oh no, I found it on the deep web, here's the link to it. All that jazz, but that's kind of where this spawned from that kotaku um uh link. After that kotaku link is when people started to watch a bit more of the sad satan playthroughs. It got a little bit more popular to the point where they started posting on reddit jamie, there was like a mega thread, for there was a mega thread in uh slash creepy gaming or it's also now in r slash.
Speaker 4:Sad satan.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it got its own subreddit after a while, but it started off in like the creepy gaming one and that's just where people were like, hey, we found this weird game that this guy's playing. And that's where a lot of the more comments come into play. People were asking Jamie, like how'd you come across this? What'd you do to get this? Uh, he's like you know I found it on the deep web. You know I was using my, my, my, uh, tor, whatever it's called, uh, the onion router, whatever browser.
Speaker 2:Yeah, look at onion sites yeah, uh, which, if you don't know, tldr dark deep internet dark web. You need a tour to access it because of the amount of anatomy that it gives you you need, you can't.
Speaker 4:There's no search engines on the fucking deep slash dark web. You need to know the address or you are not getting anywhere.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you can't go to use a tor browser to go to a, most of the time, an onion site.
Speaker 2:Onion site is a layered protection site that allows the, the owner of the site, to remain anonymous and put whatever content they want out into the ether uh, and that's where he's kind of claiming, that's how he's kind of claiming that he found this game so kind of did a 180 on the uh the article someone that was giving me something to send it to me.
Speaker 2:Yes, uh. And from there, uh, the youtube channel starts getting more and more. They start uploading a little bit more here and there and people start looking at it some more. Um, the future uploads start to add like more and more creepy things, kind of like the obscure horror corner guy. People were alleging that he was adding things into it. I know doug mentioned it before. But, um, you start to see, as the playthroughs go on, you start to see a ramp up of like, uh, charles manson, like music reversed and slowed down. In the background you see imagery pop up I always forget he was a musician I know well, it's actually led zeppelin music.
Speaker 2:And then there's like talks of manson, but like regardless, it's uh but you start to see a ramp up of that where people are like what the fuck is this game about? Um, and the playthroughs go on even further, where it went from being just a walking simulator to, oh, he finds a little girl. This little girl is beaten and bloodied, yeah, and then she starts chasing him away. And then he gets chased into, um, this room, with like six other children that are surrounding him, um, all while you still get imagery of these. Um, you know sex offenders pedophiles things like that murderers.
Speaker 2:You even get references to an old uh like old, like like garage made video game. Um like chinese video game during.
Speaker 3:What is it fucking?
Speaker 2:hong kong 78 or something yeah, and oh my god, that's right yeah and in there is uh imagery of like a dead body, and they reference that by using the same uh music that's in the game, and so this whole thing is basically just a giant reference pool to sex offenders, to uh uh murderers like the otaku murderer, yeah, charles manson and all while this is happening, again, led zeppelin keeps constantly playing the background. That's where people think that the name sad satan came from. The song was playing in the background is there's like a, like a.
Speaker 3:Allegedly. There's a reference in a song where, if you play it backwards, exactly sad satan is the, the.
Speaker 4:It's a legendary reference to the band led zeppelin. If you play, I can't remember the name of the song. But yeah, just like they said, play it in reverse. This was during.
Speaker 3:I think it's stairway to heaven, but this was dirt.
Speaker 4:This was like it was latching under the satanic panic from like the 70s and 80s, like, oh, you played the beatles. If you play it backwards, satan seal your soul now go now your skelter uh, jamie
Speaker 2:one of them uh in this never broke up jamie in the subreddit posted a link. We just keep derailing yeah, yes he posted a link uh, the actual onion link that he says that he found the game on, yeah, and people are like I'm not playing that shit because I don't fuck around with the deep web stuff, and he's like no, there's, no's, no gore or CP, so you don't have to worry about that. That'll come back later. That's a callback for later on.
Speaker 3:We determined that may not be true.
Speaker 2:This is something we can use for later. So he puts out the onion link and people start, you know, asking more questions about the game. He starts uploading a few more uploads and he gets questioned on the onion link.
Speaker 3:he's we get a little cheeky bugger.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a redditor is like um, actually actually an onion.
Speaker 1:Uh, an onion link can't have the number nine and yours does. Onion links only use the letters or the numbers two through seven. Uh seven you are giving out false information and uh, everyone's like oh shit, we got him.
Speaker 3:He's a faker well even what the uh, the uh, the. I think the person who wrote the otaku article even reached out.
Speaker 2:They're like hey what the fuck my dude and then he's like I didn't want to give out the real link because of how dangerous it could be, and it's like but you just said yeah, he's like there's no gore, cp, but I didn't want to give out the real thing because there was gore and cp yeah, he mentions yeah, because the once that came out there's gore and cp.
Speaker 4:I didn't want to give it out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because you know, once gore and once, the once that redditor calls him out for having a fake onion. Uh, onion link having a fake onion kotaku comes back to the guy like hey, any updates on this? Like, do you want to comment? And he's like no, I didn't want to give out the link because there's too much cp and gore. And then it's like but in the original article you just said there was no. In the breakup thing you just said there's no cp and gore. So like, what are you talking about? Also?
Speaker 1:you just have that really good, you just have that and you're not gonna, you're not gonna give that away to the police that you have cp yourself.
Speaker 2:You're not gonna give that to the police or something.
Speaker 3:My guy in that video I recommended people watch they, he, they break down uh, like time by time. Yeah, when he says this, when the otaku thing happens and when he like says he doesn't want to do it, it's like within like hours of each other like it's really funny he's backpedaling fast um.
Speaker 2:I kind of lost my thought there. I'm so sorry. Do you want to pick back up for a second? I can.
Speaker 3:I can absolutely pick back up you were, you were on the trap, the path, saying that the like basically we're getting to where we're almost actually at your part, yeah I know, okay, this is what I was gonna get to, so anyway.
Speaker 2:So lining up to just takes a second.
Speaker 1:Yeah, lining up to jason.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sorry, lining up to jason here so everyone is like kind of calling this Jamie guy out, saying, hey, this is obviously fake. Like we know what you're doing, you're just trying to make up some sort of like ARG or something Internet clout.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and if people were even like identifying in his videos or like he spliced in that photo, like that's not the way, that it would never just appear at that specific time, Like it's very convenient the way these photos are popping up and he's over here saying, saying like nah bro, uh, trust me bro, To the point where everyone's just like, yeah, he's just kind of trying to make up an ARG or something over on 4chan. A couple of days later we got a comment from someone named ZK yeah, and this chan.
Speaker 2:A couple days later we got a comment from someone named zk yeah, and this zk person has popped up in the past as well. It wasn't, uh uh, referenced to that much, but now people are like, oh wait, zk is a very prominent poster on like 4chan forums. He posts a lot of like satanic shit, and so they're like, oh, this ought to be fucking good. And the ZK person's like, hey, jamie's a fucking phony coward, boo-boo, he's not even playing the real game, I'll give you the real fucking game and drops a legit onion link to this game.
Speaker 4:Just drops an onion.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just drops an onion right on top of him. Fuck, dropping the mic, this game that you know. Onions are like ogres, they're like donkeys they smell terrible and they make you cry and in this link is where we find this second version of the game, which drastically different from the first hey, remember that time, that guy.
Speaker 4:So you didn't want to drop the version of the game because it had too much gore and cp in it. Go on, um, there is a version that has fucking all that is this?
Speaker 1:is this my time?
Speaker 4:yes, okay, um so I've kind of been tossing around how I want to actually present this um, and I think I'm just going to read out a it's it's ainct very concise comment from somebody on Reddit and it prefaces everything. It's user broken link 100. It says hey everyone, I've seen a lot of people posting about the quote unquote most terrifying game on the Internet, a game called Sad Satan. The game appeared on Obscure Horror Corner's YouTube channel and a subreddit r slash. Sad satan quickly spun off to dissect the game and its meaning, slash where it came from, etc. As the story goes, obscure Horror Corner was given a deep web link to download the game. So he did and he played through it.
Speaker 4:Further investigation found that the onion link he claims he downloaded it from had invalid characters like we just talked about in the address portion, meaning he never downloaded it from the deep web in the first place. Where he got the game is still a mystery, but a lot of signs point to him making the game himself. Anyway, once this information was exposed, an anonymous post on 4chan's Xboard from a guy popped up claiming to be a guy from popped up claiming to be the guy from the deep web that originally gave the link to Obscure Horror Corner, just like we said, the post said that Obscure Horror Corner was not showing everyone the true sad Satan and then provided a link to download the real sad Satan. So you could find out for yourself.
Speaker 4:Now you coward, look at this cp remember that trigger warning content warning we were talking about. This is kind of where it comes into play. Um, this version of the game was riddled with horrendous violent gore and a bunch of cp images in it.
Speaker 2:Um, everybody who had downloaded this version and played it had all kinds of problems with their pc it was quite, it was a trojan there was a moment where it was yeah pretty funny from what I heard because people would send it to like streamers and influencers and they could play online and then their computer just melted yeah and then like, or half the time they'd be live, and then, yeah, a dead body show up or something, and the stream gets canceled.
Speaker 4:They couldn't boot their PCs, it just gave them horrendous, horrendous viruses.
Speaker 2:This thing was filled with malware. Up the fucking wazoo.
Speaker 4:Now, this is the second version.
Speaker 3:I think we can call it.
Speaker 2:The other one, I would say, is a redux.
Speaker 4:Yeah, a third version does come out. This one's from the r? Slash sad satan community 1.2.
Speaker 2:1.1. What's the Kingdom Hearts? Hang on, oh, 1.5. It's 3.5.
Speaker 3:There's 1.5.
Speaker 4:1.5.6.
Speaker 3:2.5, 3.5. I don't know, just some bullshit. 2.74 over 2.
Speaker 4:Either 274 over 2. Either way, dream drop distance after this horrendous copy it's the sad satan. Hd 1.5 plus 2.5 remix cloud version because that's the one that I have on switch right now.
Speaker 3:I will. I love Kingdom Hearts. I need to replay too.
Speaker 4:I'm making Kelly play through them right now anyway bonus go fuck yourself.
Speaker 1:I don't understand it.
Speaker 4:It's not a good game so after, after all of this came out uh, the sad satan community they patched together a clean version where they scrubbed all of the cp and gore images from it. And this is it's the same exact copy, but it's just instead of like cp and gore, it shows like a picture of pizza, a willy like or maybe even just a hard cock, who knows?
Speaker 4:some soft core corn um, but it's just a bunch of alternative shit. It it's the same exact fucking game, but it makes it playable for anybody who actually wants to and not get put on a list or be subjected to CP or gore.
Speaker 3:You can pay $13 to Steam right now.
Speaker 2:Is it on Steam?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's called Sad Satan.
Speaker 2:Nightmares yeah.
Speaker 3:Nightmare, but it's just the price tag is egregious. Oh, it's ridiculous. I wouldn't pay more than a dollar. It's 13 dollars. No, there's no way. There's no, there's nothing.
Speaker 4:No, there, it's a cash grab because they know the this game generated a bunch of fucking hype around it they just want money anyway. Um, so this is the final version of the game. Sad satan was, with all of this horrendous content removed, just to show what the gameplay is and when you when you do that, just like a lot of these shock things that we talk about a lot, it's like taking the slender man out of slender man.
Speaker 4:Right now you're just walking around the woods collecting papers, right like that's not fun. Nobody fucking cares about that, and that's super unfortunate, because here's what that means to me. That means that the internet is such an awful place that the only reason that they cared about this was because it was full of horrendous, horrendous, illegal images yeah, oh yeah, a thousand percent, that makes sense and it got to the point.
Speaker 2:So with this one we're not finished with jamie.
Speaker 4:Oh my god, they actually they tried to. They tried to soften the blow here so when this happened um your man's got bone, so when the.
Speaker 2:When this, when this uh, very, very graphic version came out, jamie was like ah, this is what I was trying to avoid. I didn't do this.
Speaker 3:Everyone's like ah, but maybe you did everyone's like this thing has like you fucking did.
Speaker 2:Everyone's like this thing's got cp on it. I alerted the cops because this is fucked up. And he's just like yeah, I'm just telling you right now everyone, he made a big old post on reddit. He's like I am so upset that this came out and my name is attached to it because I want to let you know I had nothing to do with the cp. Oh, that's bad, it was so bad what's his name? Jamey. Okay, and remember that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and he's like I'm innocent, I didn't do this and uh, there's a lot, a lot of flaws that came with that, though everyone was like we're pretty sure you're lying, you're fucking lying right now and here's why his story never makes sense.
Speaker 2:He's always flippity, flopping all over. First he was sent the game and then he got it on the deep web.
Speaker 3:The deep web link was fake and then in the actual um link that this zk person uh finds, uh or sends out, you can actually open up, like the code of the the files of the file of the the graphic version of the game, and you can find some desktop files, and one of them is labeled jamie well, it's like when you go into your own computer and you see like it's like users slash your name, slash like desktop or whatever it is, those files were all, uh, attributed to a jamie. It was like user desktop slash jamie, slash like file, like you know whatever it was called, but like literally the name jamie's like right in and they're like hey, what's what's this about?
Speaker 1:and he's like they hacked it. They hacked it.
Speaker 3:He did one of those like I don't even really know he was.
Speaker 2:He was so staunt on the no, this game that could have been hacked. It's not I didn't do it, that could have. They could have fudged the files, they could have fudged the files and, uh, he was so eminent on that he's like I can't believe that someone would make such a disgusting he was what? About it, distraught, distraught. No, what I say? He said staunt something about eminent. What is that? Eminent adam?
Speaker 2:adam it, who's so adamant, who's so adamant I'm saying I'm a knight, I'm saying it wasn't me and he, he did the smart move here that every non-guilty person does disappears. He disappeared, yeah, he, uh. He stopped uploading, stopped posting on reddit, just vanished. And everyone's like you're zk, we, you, you made all this up, you're zk. And a lot of the theories for what that second version was was because, again, this is just a theory.
Speaker 3:Right now we actually have, I mean, no real good proof, kind of we'll get there, yep.
Speaker 2:So a lot of the speculation of what this game was originally supposed to be intended. There's a reason that this game is basically a walking simulator. A lot of people theorize that it wasn't supposed to be a game to begin with. It was basically masquerading as a game. It was supposed to be used as like it was a way to traffic to traffic, cp and other shit.
Speaker 2:So but the the video game aspect of it was basically just a ruse to trick anyone that might be stepping into the wrong direction I will say I don't have a whole lot of experience with the dark web, but I know that there's a lot of.
Speaker 3:There's a lot of people on the dark web and this doesn't have anything to do with cp, but there's a lot of people that trade viruses online. Yep there's a huge community for that shit. Uh, I, I stumbled across a fucking. Uh, I was in like dark web tiktok for a while for some reason and like there's, I forget this guy's name, but basically like his whole life is just categorizing or like, I guess, cataloging viruses, you just collect some and you can just essentially go on the dark web and just download all of them.
Speaker 1:You can just get them all.
Speaker 3:When you download one, it's not necessarily like you're giving yourself the virus. You're just taking that file so you have the virus.
Speaker 4:So if there's ever a 3D printing for viruses available, you could.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, you mean like actual viruses.
Speaker 1:I did hear about that, sure, you meant actual viruses. I did hear about that, sure, yeah, I did you mean actual viruses.
Speaker 2:I thought you meant computer viruses. I do know what you're talking about. I have seen that before. Well, no, I'm talking about computer. Oh, there's a guy that is doing cracking the code on just straight up viruses and he's like, yeah, when we can 3d print organisms, here you go that my brother's doing the same shit.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you could just create fucking.
Speaker 3:Oh man, this reminds me of a terrible, terrible, terrible reddit post that I saw once. Do you know, do you know, where I'm going with this one? No the person collecting diseases. Nope, all right, we won't get into that. We won't get into that anyway save that for another I'm also gonna say something, whatever I'll just say something I kind of hope you bleep, just in case I'm wrong, because I often am.
Speaker 2:No, I mean like you won't be able to hear if I say I mean afterwards, so maybe bleep this in post-production. I don't think the dark web is as big a thing as we all made it out to be. I think a lot of it is a Red Scare sort of aspect where we have the idea of what it is in our head, but it's something completely different.
Speaker 3:Like a lot of people are like no, it's the Russians, I get it. No, yeah, it's Russians.
Speaker 2:Like a lot of people are like the dark web is just full of drug lords and full of assassins.
Speaker 1:It used to be.
Speaker 2:Is it that? Or were we grown up to believe that out of pure fright?
Speaker 3:Oh, I'm sure it started out pretty scary, maybe creepy almost.
Speaker 4:You cannot stumble on it though you. Literally. There is no way to just randomly come across it.
Speaker 2:I'm also okay with you bleeping that on the off chance that I'm wrong and some guy hears me and is like I'll show him. And then all of a sudden, my bank information is gone.
Speaker 4:That's not going to happen.
Speaker 2:You'd be surprised.
Speaker 4:The deep web isn't as dangerous as I thought it was.
Speaker 2:That could get some asshole to get. Leave us a comment on why.
Speaker 3:Mike's wrong.
Speaker 2:No, but I think a lot of it is just a big scare tactic that we all grew up on.
Speaker 3:There's a fear part that I think a lot of it has to come from the fact that A our government really doesn't like us having our First. Amendment and the dark web is almost the biggest First Amendment you could ever do. I do think a lot of it is like it's a scare tactic.
Speaker 2:I think a lot of it is like drug selling, but I don't think like in my brain exactly, but in my brain like I was always yeah, I always grew up and in my brain it was like, oh, you got like fucking like kingpins on the dark web selling shit, when in reality it's probably like your neighborhood weed dealer yeah, just skirting skirting around the law like.
Speaker 4:It's like a 38 year old that lives with his mom in his basement still, but he's something like he's boxing up weed through there he has access to like dog organs and he's selling them on the on the black web for some fucking reason no joke.
Speaker 3:Uh, a dude that I used to know he used to buy like like pure rocks of molly off of the internet yeah, like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I mean, and I bet that was just from some dude I doubt that.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I'm sure it was just like gary across the street, just like cooking something up in his fucking I was let's do it larry.
Speaker 4:Let's do larry larry.
Speaker 2:Larry's a better name for decades, decades, I was like, oh man, there's assassins on here, there's like mafia dudes, and I'm like probably not who's gary anymore.
Speaker 4:I'm getting there anyway. So I think I don't know, maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2:Anyway, we went off topic pretty good oh yeah, we went flying off topic but, um, so a lot of people. He so jamie vanishes because people, basically they are under the impression that jamie is zk, who is the guy that distributed this cp and other things. So they're like, oh, that's illegal, maybe we should get police involved, is that?
Speaker 4:what happened? Uh, yeah, it is what happened. Um, however, I know we've said the name Jamie like a fuck load like Jamie Kennedy. Yeah, it's you're never going to see that name again. I'm going to read you something.
Speaker 2:Malibu's most wanted. Malibu's Most Wanted. I fucking love that movie.
Speaker 4:This is a transcript from a US court case that ended with the finding and imprisonment of an individual.
Speaker 2:Traffic traffic. Looking for my chapstick, feeling kind of Cossack.
Speaker 1:There's a Ford Maverick.
Speaker 4:There's a million dollar song right there, I'm going to take a drink before this because this is where the episode gets a little heavy.
Speaker 2:Shrink, shrink, blink, blink. Oh, it's trying to make me think Maybe I want to go in my sink Vomit Clean up and calm it. Earth is my planet.
Speaker 3:Earth is my planet.
Speaker 4:Man. Considering what I'm about to talk about, the contrast is insane.
Speaker 3:We're trying so hard to keep it light.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 4:I know, I know, I know, I know you guys are doing a great job, but drink good.
Speaker 2:You hooked me up with some of the macadamia nut cookies too.
Speaker 1:Yo, you validate parking.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I got game cast.
Speaker 4:Y'all got game cast. Y'all got game cast. Well, there's.
Speaker 3:GameCube I got game cast.
Speaker 2:I got game cast.
Speaker 4:All right, do you guys want to hear what maybe came of this whole situation? Yes, please, I'm going to read something out of context and I'm going to ask if it makes any sense. Does that sound good? No, oh, okay. Well, fuck you. On June 14th 2017, gary Graves was indicted for possessing pornographic images of. We're just going to go ahead and Stuff.
Speaker 4:Use your imagination, the thing we've been talking about. Because the magistrate judge found that he was quote-unquote financially unable to obtain counsel, the court appointed a public defender. After consulting with his appointed counsel, Graves decided to accept responsibility for his crime and pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography. That included.
Speaker 2:You said the word.
Speaker 4:It included images of children under the age of 12. Bad guy. So, guys, like I said, we've tried to keep it kind of light in the air up until now.
Speaker 3:What's the connection?
Speaker 1:Unfortunately we're going to have to cut it off right here. What does it all mean, though, basil? So I would love to regale.
Speaker 4:Unfortunately, we're gonna have to cut it off right here. What does it all mean, though, basil? So I would love, I would love to regale. I would love to regale you with the fucking, the intricacies of my internet explorations on what all of this means. We have not, you guys are you guys listening?
Speaker 3:you guys understand what's happening right now? No, I'm posting to my social media.
Speaker 4:Shut up. So all we've heard is the name Jamie, right? Yes, we've heard Jamie. We've heard ZK, zk. We've never heard Gary Graves. Zk Zonkey Kong. Thank you, apparently. Gary Graves is the actual name. I don't care.
Speaker 3:What a dope name, though I do not care, I'll be back.
Speaker 1:No wait, when are you going? I can't follow that.
Speaker 4:Come back. No, I'm going to go pee again.
Speaker 2:We're almost done? Yeah, we are, but what?
Speaker 3:about Gary, gary Indiana.
Speaker 4:He's a dope dude, Doug.
Speaker 3:I mean the name is pretty baller. Maybe not a great guy, but like can't deny pretty sick name, sick name for a sick man, you know.
Speaker 2:Sick name for a sick dude.
Speaker 3:Uh, here I got his phone and some notes, so let's see.
Speaker 2:I wonder how much of this is gonna get cut wonder how much of this is going to get cut out. How coherent is this episode going to be?
Speaker 3:not very so long story short. It looks like what Jason is trying to say is that this guy is our guy what's the connection, though?
Speaker 2:like? How do people find out it's him? We'll wait for Jason to come back?
Speaker 3:I don't know. I just have his phone. I don't have any other information.
Speaker 2:Look for his nudes.
Speaker 3:No, I'm good you might see.
Speaker 2:Jason Shalong. I have.
Speaker 3:Jason's underage dude what? Did we just talk about.
Speaker 2:Oh, you got me there.
Speaker 3:I did get you there, alright. Well, I guess we're paused. Yeah, I guess so. Cause your boy actually also needs to take piss. Son of a bitch, you people.
Speaker 4:I can tell he's done, because your whole house is.
Speaker 2:Pee into the sump pump like a real person do. Oh god, I can hear.
Speaker 3:PS, ps, ps, ps, ps, ps, ps, ps, ps PS.
Speaker 2:PS, ps, hello, hello. So yeah, gary Graves, what a name I'm cutting all this. What are you laughing at over there, hey, we?
Speaker 1:finally have an audience member. Is that just the dead people tied up in the basement?
Speaker 2:it's your mom, hey mom, hi, mom, hi, jernine, mom, mom, perfect, when did you come in? When did you come in here? Let me, let me do some research here. You came in at about 720. Oh, perfect, you called all of the cp stuff.
Speaker 4:I'm so happy about that, it's okay though we're gonna use this as a way to try and outreach, I guess my mom is such a nice person discord.
Speaker 2:She's just asking like how's everyone's day?
Speaker 4:she's discord's mom discord's mom you know we're gonna have to have her on an episode at some point, right, oh, she wants to be.
Speaker 2:I just have to figure her on an episode at some point. Right, oh, she wants to be. I just have to figure out what it's got to be. I might have us talk about. Why does your toilet have?
Speaker 3:a handle like I'm opening a submarine. Yeah, I was wondering that too. It's a.
Speaker 2:So Amelia can't open it. It's a child lock.
Speaker 4:Can she walk? It just gives her more.
Speaker 2:Getting there yeah.
Speaker 4:More leverage.
Speaker 2:No, you push the button and it flips over, so you can't. It's got a rubber stopper on the back.
Speaker 4:Oh, so it hits the back. Yeah, so she can't drink the toilet water.
Speaker 2:Exactly, you laugh.
Speaker 4:No, I understand.
Speaker 2:Gets close to it.
Speaker 4:I completely understand.
Speaker 2:She'll walk upstairs and we have one of those running cat water things. She'll book it right over that and just be like and then leave. I'm like that's the cat's drink. What are you doing, asshole?
Speaker 4:I need another drink. I'm going to hold. That's fine, I'm going to hold, not going to lie, this content is honestly bothering me a little more than I thought it would, but that's okay.
Speaker 2:Mom and I can. If we ever have a mama, we can talk about fucking. What was it? Uh, fuck, what was that old? Uh. What was that old show called mom? What was that old show?
Speaker 1:painter's corner. No, they used to watch it had the.
Speaker 2:It was from like the 70s. No, it wasn't. The 70s was a kid's show, monty python. It was like they were in weird fucked up costumes, monty python no, it was like a fucking. It wasn't bonanza the bananas no, no. Bananas in pajamas no, it was 70s man 70s.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the bananas. Yes, they were like a monkey and like a fucking dog and like they looked really weird.
Speaker 1:Oh shit Maybe.
Speaker 2:It was like a purple monkey, something with an S. We can talk about that though.
Speaker 3:The skedaddles.
Speaker 2:The bananas.
Speaker 3:The wigglers.
Speaker 2:The banana splits.
Speaker 3:The banana splits, that's what it is.
Speaker 2:I said the bananas that's one of them, but I don't think that's one that my mom Watched.
Speaker 3:Janine is typing aggressively, no.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not banana splits. She knows, I can't remember what it was called.
Speaker 1:What Gross?
Speaker 3:bro, that felt so my mom might know.
Speaker 2:Anyway, let's get back to the.
Speaker 3:She said no, not the banana. I can read doug I can oh, that's news to me breaking news hi, my name is mike, I'm 30 and I never learned how to read yep anyway, oh great, gary zow graves zowie this.
Speaker 1:Okay, I need everyone to be on the same page here.
Speaker 2:this Wowie Graves Zowie oh, great Gary.
Speaker 3:Graves.
Speaker 4:Zowie. Okay, I need everyone to be on the same page here.
Speaker 3:This man Me and Mike will stop talking.
Speaker 4:No, you can talk, but this man is like, at least in my eyes. This guy is like Public enemy number one. Yeah, like fuck this guy, Fuck everything this man stands for, Like he is the worst.
Speaker 3:He had a good question. How do we know that that's our guy? How's it?
Speaker 4:tie. So if we, I can regale you with the research that ties to that. There's a whole Reddit post for it. It has to do with linking up IP addresses as well as pseudonyms.
Speaker 2:Jamie HR one of them that was it?
Speaker 4:Yeah, hr puff and stuff. That jim's jamie, hr one of them, stuff. That was it? Yeah, hr puff and stuff. That's the answer. Um, but I'm not gonna bore you with the the internet sleuthing that happened. Just know that this man basically took an ip address that was tied to this person who called themselves aka jamie, and traced it, found out their actual name, turns out, and I'm very okay with doxing this person because fuck this guy.
Speaker 1:Yep, absolutely fuck this guy.
Speaker 2:Also, is it doxing if his information is already in public domain?
Speaker 4:Yes, because if you didn't know that existed there, now you do.
Speaker 2:Well, if he's got prison records, that means that it's public information.
Speaker 4:That's fine. I wouldn't count that as doxing. If I were going to prison for this, I wouldn't want people on the internet talking about it, dude, like a bunch of people. That's all I'm saying. So I'm going to dox this guy because what this fucking person did is unforgivable, absolutely unforgivable. Drag him, queen. Now what I'm going to also comment on is the fucking fine that was received by this man, like the penalty for distributing CP in this kind of medium. Get him, and I want I'm. We're not going into politics, we're not going into government or anything like that. I just want everyone to hear what the crime for this is, to know that it's not fucking acceptable in my opinion. But this is what Gary Graves received.
Speaker 2:Did he receive the guillotine like he should have?
Speaker 1:Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.
Speaker 3:I mean, yeah, I think these people should be put to death, but it's fine.
Speaker 4:So from the $700 a month income that he has not a lot he now receives $245 of it. Okay.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 4:I think that's about it. Awesome, great, just do a little. Fine, I'm going to dox this guy.
Speaker 2:He got $250. That's what.
Speaker 4:I'm fucking saying, though, like that's what, that's what I'm talking about. The fucking sentence here does not fit the crime, and I'm gonna get passionate.
Speaker 2:He had to pay 250.
Speaker 4:That's it. He made 700 bucks a month. So because the judicial system has to work off of incomes for monetary penalties like that, they have to do percentage wise. Any percentage you put towards 700 a month is not going to reflect I'm so.
Speaker 2:His sentence was just paying a fine.
Speaker 4:He didn't go to jail uh, yeah, according to this here I'm going to read out the sentencing hearing. At the sentencing hearing, graves argued that he was most certainly indignant and argued the district court not to impose the $5,000 special assessment. The government countered that the court should consider Graves' future earning capacity in assessing his indignance, pointing to Graves' education, which included some college courses, his employment history and the fact that he is able-bodied. Wow, the government argued that Graves should have the ability to make payments in the future. District court agreed Wow, uh persevered his objection to the special assessment and this appeal followed. Essentially, what happened is they came to an agreement. The full monetary value was lessened. He got a very short probationary stay in a county jail and then released into home custody for the duration of sentence on top of yeah, you heard it 27 $275 plus $5,000.
Speaker 2:The only thing I can think of. There's no way that the government or any competent lawyer would let him get away, and that's it.
Speaker 4:I have a feeling that Are you telling me right now that somebody made sexual misconduct in the most egregious fashion and you're telling me that it's not surprising that he got leniency?
Speaker 2:I'm confused by the question. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4:That's fine.
Speaker 3:No, I think what he's saying is that.
Speaker 4:I'm very passionate about this.
Speaker 2:I think he got leniency because I think he took some sort of plea deal and gave them a fuckload of other information this is.
Speaker 3:This is what I was gonna say. Actually, I think it's unfortunate that it's not surprising that yep sexual aggressors uh look at all these excuses we're making, like all these things. It's. It's not, yeah, it's not even an excuse, it's just it's sad that those people aren't getting punished more than like someone for, like, selling weed yeah, there are people still in jail right now for marijuana related crimes, yet we get this fucking asshole.
Speaker 4:Who pays what?
Speaker 3:five thousand two hundred seventy five dollars, and it's fine the amount of times that I see like a rape case go to where they're like ah yeah, the guy did some community service, I guess about it, and you're like alright, I got you.
Speaker 4:This is the argument Boys will be boys, it's true, I understand that reference. And then there's the fucking. Oh well, it's going to ruin his future if we make this stick.
Speaker 2:Are you just talking about Brock Turner?
Speaker 4:Yes, I'm just talking about Brock Turner. Yes, I'm just talking about Brock Turner. That's the most recent fucking opening.
Speaker 3:I guess that's the one that comes to mind when you think about it too. I mean, there's so many, but it's all the same story.
Speaker 4:It's all the fucking same story. I'm getting so fucking heated about this.
Speaker 3:Maybe we should cover Pizzagate at some point.
Speaker 2:No, that's okay. You guys want to hear me scream?
Speaker 4:for like two hours. No, that's okay. You guys want to hear me scream for like two hours? I don't.
Speaker 3:So Pizza Gate goes so much more beyond just what it is, though, and I think it would be a pretty good topic to cover. But, guys, I do apologize, for We'll do it like a year, when the algorithm doesn't realize what I'm talking about when our ratings are super low and we need that right-wing fucking boost.
Speaker 4:We need the right wingies to come out for us. No, that's never going to happen. I do apologize for how passionate I get about this stuff, but like yeah, you should Say you're sorry to the molesters.
Speaker 2:No, I'm serious.
Speaker 4:I'm cutting you guys off. I'm just screaming into a microphone about stuff.
Speaker 3:No, it's fine. Someone has to be passionate about it. I feel like so, like I don't know what's the word I'm looking for. I feel like so like, uh, like muted just yeah like it's like it doesn't even surprise me anymore, so like there's like almost no passion behind it for me.
Speaker 4:I'm just like oh yeah, it's fucking, it happens america sucks, does fucking suck, but like that's such this, that's such the norm right now that like damn, we're really getting into it at the end of this episode, huh I'm not kidding like this.
Speaker 3:This please insert five dollars to hear us continue on for another 20 minutes but like this, this whole thing, it I loved.
Speaker 4:I loved covering this simply because it elucidates a problem in this in in the world. It's not just this fucking country, it's the entire world it is the whole world honestly, it's the whole fucking world and it's, it's, it's things like this.
Speaker 4:We see time after time. We see people with a ton of money getting off, scott free, getting to do whatever the fuck they want. But then we see shit like this where a fucking literal, a literal rapist gets a $5,000 fine and that's it. No connections, no money, no nothing. He's just a fucking man.
Speaker 2:I'm telling you they must have did some sort of under-the-table plea bargain or something. That's the only thing that makes sense to me. It's corrupt bullshit. That's a lot of corrupt shit, yeah, this whole story reminds me of a fucking mantra.
Speaker 4:I will take a shot about it, but this reminds me that there is no such thing as a justice system in america. It's a legal system. I would be very curious ever ever, ever, fucking forget that it's not a justice system, it's fucking legal system got him damn.
Speaker 2:Usually I'm the one that goes on a tangent.
Speaker 4:Here you are hell yeah, I knew I was gonna do this tonight. Hell yeah, brother, that's what I'm talking about like fuck this guy oh yeah, absolutely fuck this guy I don't care how many of you go out tonight and write this man hate mail. He fucking deserves it. Are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 4:tell him deludy, sent you seriously oh god I wish I could dole out that kind of vigilante justice, like I wish we could I wish there was a real life batman to just cripple people like this yes, instead of instead of what batman does of crippling, just the local.
Speaker 3:Someone make us fan art of a guy named deludy man. Uh, just just molly whopping some pedos decapitating.
Speaker 4:I don't give a fuck like it's guys, if you, if you wanted to know what really like sparks my passion?
Speaker 3:it's violence against children you know what really grinds jason's gears? It's, it's, it's fucking children it's fucked.
Speaker 2:Children grind my gears you know what and I don't pay them for it as much as jason doesn't condone children, it's. It's nice knowing that amelia is gonna grow up with a man that oh, dude the og sex pervert any man talks to my.
Speaker 4:My child, jace, is whooping the teeth out of food if, if I could, if I could just make a living by showing up to pedophiles houses and either beating them to an inch of their lives or just literally straight killing luckily, there are actually a lot of people there's a ton of youtube channels.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I mean, they're not beating them up, but they're, like you know, legally getting them yeah.
Speaker 4:I've seen it's like bounty hunters for the fucking the worst population in this entire world, jason.
Speaker 3:What I'm gonna need you to take a seat right over here.
Speaker 1:Oh no.
Speaker 4:You know what? Isn't that my line After that? Yeah.
Speaker 2:I have never I think in the three years we've been doing this heard such anger.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I try to keep it contained, because that's usually your shtick.
Speaker 4:You're the one that goes off and gets heated.
Speaker 2:I usually try to be the person who makes the episodes run smoothly. It's nice to see it from a different point of view.
Speaker 4:It's unhinged right.
Speaker 2:I'm here with you. I'm with you on this one.
Speaker 4:I'm fucking angry, like, oh my God, I knew, as soon as I saw this topic, like I knew. I knew that I was going to get heated about this.
Speaker 2:Jason did this topic just so he could yell at some number of people that listened about this, at some number of people that listen about this.
Speaker 4:Maybe I don't know why.
Speaker 2:Let me yell to you about this. No, no, I think we all agree with you, because this shit has to do with everything.
Speaker 4:You guys might remember the milk carton kids back from the 90s.
Speaker 2:Oh God, that did nothing. That's the sad part. The milk carton should do nothing.
Speaker 4:I learned that all of that had to do with red rooms on the fucking dark web and, like most of those kids, got goddamn murdered, like it's I, yeah, the sad thing was a lot of those kids on the milk cartons.
Speaker 2:I, I, I don't know how true it is, but I read a thing god damn, we're on such a fucking topic, yeah, a topic right now. I, I heard a thing. I don't know how true it is, but the milk carton thing was also a ploy by the companies making the like, the milk and everything jay's is right.
Speaker 4:Thank you, J Spry's.
Speaker 2:It was a ploy by them. They would basically take advantage of these grieving families and everything Be like oh, put your kid's face. It only costs you just a little bit of money.
Speaker 4:Like $200.
Speaker 2:Put your kid's face on this milk carton. But most of the time those kids were, they were already dead at that point. They were just doing it to give the parents false hope and lie in their pockets.
Speaker 4:Well, I watched a whole video about the correlations between the milk carton kids and the start of the rise of Red Rooms Like those started in like the 80s or some shit it was after MKUltra.
Speaker 2:I know nothing about that and I don't think I ever want to.
Speaker 4:Once that topic comes up, it'll be a minute's saying. It's very similar vein as to what we talked about. We'll actually read the comics on it. Oh no, considering what I know, I don't know what those entail, but it's probably a lot less graphic, probably, yes, but the the the very unfortunate part about all of this is that this is it's important.
Speaker 4:Like everybody who visits the internet every single fucking day, you're right next to this, you are adjacent to shit like this and you probably don't even know it, and so what I really wanted to ask from everybody listening to this, especially considering how fucking passionate I just got about all of this please, for the love of god, if you know somebody who has kids, if you have, have kids yourself, if, if, if there's anything that you can do to help anyone you know under the age of 18, just be safe on the Internet. You're not invincible, you're not anonymous. People know exactly where you are. It's dangerous. Just fucking help protect the kids, like. Just just make sure that they are okay. I don't care what anybody else does. Adults fuck each other, I don't care, fucking kill each other, hire, hitmen, whatever, but if you're a child, you don't fucking deserve that. So, for the love of god, if anything, can you please help protect the kids, for the love of god.
Speaker 3:They fucking need it apparently very clearly again um deludy in no way shape or form condone no, we don't condone children, don't have them, but if you could, save them, that's great, but if they already exist, please, please, help them, because they're naive.
Speaker 3:I remember being a kid two-thirds don't condone children, I do yeah, you're fired, damn uh, can we pause for a second, like actual pause, like hard stop pause hard, stop pause. Yeah, sorry guys so, uh, we, I don't think you need to yeah no, um what? Happened uh, we can make the rest of the payment now. We can make a huge.
Speaker 4:Yeah, okay, that's what we were waiting on.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I didn't realize that Same Just so you know, shoot over that After we'll talk.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, no cool, just so you know. All right, on three, one, two, three Wowie zowie.
Speaker 3:I'm done. Done, by the way. I was just.
Speaker 4:I thought we'd just stare at mike for a while, you know I'm. I am done ranting um. Guys, guys, are we starting a a pedo hunting program?
Speaker 3:no, no, let's not do that. I don't have time for that to to be fair as much as I would put all money that I own behind that?
Speaker 4:I don't think we can. I think we can just do what we do, which is entertain, inform, I guess, but like we have fun, we love to have fun.
Speaker 3:We love to laugh, but this is again— we can only condone killing so many people and we have to at least keep up the opinion that we're K-ing the P at some point right, right.
Speaker 4:We need to save that one.
Speaker 2:K the P's. That means two things. Now, all we can do is inform.
Speaker 4:It does. I like this way more. Bah, oh my God. K the P, k, all the P's, all we can do right now, boys?
Speaker 2:Every P that exists K them. All we can do is icp, damn it, damn it damn it, damn it, damn it, take us out. Really good, just take us out, so I want everyone to find the nearest shasta to you.
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Speaker 3:Oh, oh. We're ending the episode because we are in a tornado.
Speaker 2:Oh, I guess we should grab Melia, huh.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we're. Hey everybody, we love you. If we die, I'm so sorry, but the tornado sirens are going off right now, so we have to end this like now. Join us maybe later. I don't know. I didn't know this was going to happen. We love you guys. Everybody, stay safe Please.
