Don't Look Under the Internet

DLUTI 154 - My Dad's Tapes: Part 2

Don't Look Under the Internet Season 1 Episode 154

The VHS tapes have returned to have their vengeance or something like that. It's part 2 of some guy's dad's tapes of blonde women.

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Speaker 2:

Don't look under the internet.

Speaker 3:

I'll hit my recording Shit tank in the fire.

Speaker 4:

We're honking everyone. We're honkies, we're honkies.

Speaker 3:

We're the three best honkies that anyone had ever had.

Speaker 4:

I apologize for how often I say honk bees or honky bees tonight. I usually can keep it on lock and today it's just coming out.

Speaker 3:

Hello, we're doing dad tape today.

Speaker 4:

Are we just starting like that Good after morning? Should I start Good after morning, hello everyone welcome.

Speaker 2:

To Don't Look Under. Wait, are we actually starting Dad's tapes? Are we starting like that? Good morning Good afternoon Morning. Should.

Speaker 5:

I start Good afternoon.

Speaker 2:

Good afternoon Hello everyone, welcome to Don't Look.

Speaker 3:

Under Wait, are we actually starting Dance tapes too? Dance tapes too. You're not safe, you're not safe, you're not safe.

Speaker 2:

You're not safe. You're not safe, hey, I hope everybody listened to part one.

Speaker 4:

I hope everybody listened to part one.

Speaker 5:

I hope you didn't.

Speaker 4:

If you didn't, I hope you're laughing.

Speaker 5:

If you did, that still won't make sense.

Speaker 3:

It might make a lot of sense. The silence is telling that silence.

Speaker 4:

That dead air was deafening. Nobody knew what to say. No one knows where to go from that.

Speaker 3:

We're like, all right, we're done talking here.

Speaker 2:

I know where to go from that. We're like all right, we're done talking here. I know where to go from there. You go with the classic deludy house.

Speaker 4:

We haven't even introduced the show shit, hello welcome to don't look under the internet I'm mike, that's mike hi that's jason hi. Jason Mike Hi, that's.

Speaker 2:

Jason, hi, jason Hi, doug Hi, we're not even like. I haven't touched alcohol.

Speaker 4:

You've had one, we have no excuse, we've almost finished half a bottle before we started recording, did you? No, no, it's like he finished his third, jesus.

Speaker 3:

Christ, no, he's right, it's almost half a bottle.

Speaker 5:

I didn't even notice that we've watched collectively like eight hours of my dad's tapes and your dad's tapes your dad's tapes Eight hours, that we'll never get back.

Speaker 3:

Nope, never never, never.

Speaker 2:

Can I do my housekeeping now?

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 2:

Deloady Housekeeping. I did it. This is the portion of the show where I Say names and we say Horrible or yeah, alright, maybe we have crayon-ays.

Speaker 4:

Crayon-ays, crayon-ays.

Speaker 2:

Like a crayon in mayonnaise. Crayon-ays, that is top tier.

Speaker 3:

I love that.

Speaker 2:

Crayon-ays.

Speaker 4:

Cause. The image that conjures in my brain makes me want to throw up. It's nice rolling off the tongue. Crayon A's it just rolls right off the throat.

Speaker 3:

Grandma, can you pass me the crayon A's?

Speaker 2:

It's been out in the sun marinating.

Speaker 5:

It rolls off the tongue and slides down the throat.

Speaker 3:

Right down the gullet Past the teeth.

Speaker 4:

I love that they have to be southern, like Alabama. What about Maryland and the crannies?

Speaker 3:

I don't know. When you imagine a grandma, it's just like for some reason it's southern. I don't really know why that is. Naked grandma Grandma.

Speaker 2:

I will say I had a Grandma who Was not southern. She's dead. So that's why I say I had a grandma. She wasn't southern, but she would have like a southern. She'd say washing machine instead of Washing machine, and whenever we would Fight each other she'd say stop the wrestling. And I'm like sorry, grandma. Wait you fought your grandma. All the time she had old lady smoker strength.

Speaker 4:

That's like my mom when she says garage, she pronounces it gay-rage, the gay-rage.

Speaker 3:

Gay-rage. It is June, so Gay-rage.

Speaker 4:

The gay rage is out and apparent Got him.

Speaker 5:

Got him. My mom calls Walmart Wally World, wally World.

Speaker 4:

My uncle did that to my dad and my dad goes. I've never been to Wally World and they were on their way home from Florida Driving, so they drove 6 hours Out of the way to go to the closest one and my dad was very angry.

Speaker 3:

I would go out of my way For a Bussies Buc-ees.

Speaker 4:

I want to go to a Buc-ees so bad Buc-ees, jesus.

Speaker 5:

I went to go to a Buc-ee's so bad Buc-ee's Jesus, I went to one a few weeks ago when I was in Florida, or a month ago too. I was like I don't fucking know when that was. At this point Time doesn't matter, but anyway, it's okay, I don't really recommend the three meat sandwich. It was disgusting.

Speaker 3:

What meats was it? It was brisket, a slab of turkey, and and then pulled pork, the turkey's, where I lose me.

Speaker 5:

It was a combination of gritty, soft chewy all in one bite. It was not pleasant.

Speaker 3:

Every texture known to man in one bite.

Speaker 5:

Every texture that meat could be in one sandwich.

Speaker 4:

Fillory meat.

Speaker 2:

Fillory meat. Well, if you ever go to Bucky's, get their grapes Crispest grapes I've ever had in my life what the fuck? Delicious grapes. Let me tell you.

Speaker 3:

I think there's like a I don't know. Please correct me if I'm wrong in the comments or wherever you want to yell at me at, just to his face. I think they have like a sausage on a stick or something that people rave about. That's called a corn dog.

Speaker 4:

It's not breaded though. Culver's has a great corn dog, so they put a sausage on a barbecue thing.

Speaker 3:

I don't know this guy that I watch on YouTube is always eating them and fucking being large.

Speaker 5:

We should start a food truck that's just a hot dog on a stick and some cornbread and just call it a deconstructed corn dog and sell it to hipsters for like 20 bucks corn dog three ways.

Speaker 4:

I know you're being sarcastic, but that's a really good idea bring that to Seattle.

Speaker 2:

I'm sure we'll make a mint, a mint, mint.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, we're covering a fucking yeah, as you can probably tell electric poGaloo. This is an internet horror comedy Two dad, two tapes. Two dad, two tapes.

Speaker 2:

Two dad four tapes. Ejecto-cito-dad Two dads, one tape. Ejecto-tapo-dad. Go go Gadget-Dad. So I guess I'll just Do you want to do. You want to tl the dr do you want me tldr? Man's dad dies. Man man's dad left him tapes vhs tapes, yep he plays tapes. They they have uh videos and images of women being murdered.

Speaker 3:

Muck ducked.

Speaker 2:

And we get introduced to a player named. Do Not Continue. Who's like you? Just stop.

Speaker 5:

I'm gonna kill some bitches. I just can't stop stabbing. I just fucking can't stop stabbing and he's like you.

Speaker 2:

Better stop. You don't want none of this. You don't want none of this If you keep talking about this.

Speaker 3:

I'm gonna kill you. Don't want none of this. Uh, you don't want none of this. Uh, if you, if you, what's that? If you keep talking about this?

Speaker 5:

I'm gonna kill, and you don't want none of this do we um and then uh so and detective adams is like hey, don't, don't do it yeah we have scottish cop in hollywood, california, because we go to hollywood boulevard later uncle so we're in're in California and we have Scottish Uncle and Scottish Cop, scop and Skunkle.

Speaker 4:

Skunkle got me. Holy fuck, that's a good word.

Speaker 2:

Skunkle Detective Adams is useless. He keeps being like I got nothing, can't find nothing. Sorry, I got nothing for you.

Speaker 3:

Return to camp.

Speaker 2:

Yep Got nothing for you oh.

Speaker 5:

God gotten on for it.

Speaker 2:

Oh god, I know that reference. This is a reference to jason should know the reference.

Speaker 3:

I didn't even hear you. What'd you say? I?

Speaker 2:

said I got nothing for you. Return to camp. You say uncles in paradise, skunkles in paris? Um, oh yeah, so he, he finds nothing for us. Um, so we keep watching more creepy videos of, uh, women being tortured and whatnot. Um, jason, what else is one of my? What am I forgetting here? Is there anything else I'm forgetting?

Speaker 4:

Um, I can tell you what we left off with.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and the last one yeah, um so the last.

Speaker 4:

The last thing that I talked about was video 41 with the uh computer footage, which was alluding to a, a computer that was found, um, with just a bunch of different oh, from the storage unit that I talked about yes, from the from what doug was talking about last time.

Speaker 4:

Uh, the storage unit that was found had a bunch of shit in there and it was going to take him a while to go through it, and the last thing we talked about was a lot of porn that was found. We found there was a couple of smuff films sorry, snuff films, smuff um it's like smurfs murder.

Speaker 4:

I'm pretty sure the last thing I said was I very briefly overviewed the fact that, uh, this, there's a blonde girl we see that was killed by. Do not continue is the last thing that we saw. Um, there's an interview with, uh, my dad's tape sister that relates a bunch of the taboo shit that he was doing, and then Detective Adams goes to shut the page down. It was all very, very rapid fire.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we find out, dad. Horrible guy to women, does not like women.

Speaker 4:

Horrendous.

Speaker 5:

Also he meets with that girl, melissa. Yeah, that knew his dad the anonymous caller. Yeah, in the hospital or the home or whatever. Oh, she was the hospice nurse?

Speaker 3:

yeah, cause he waits there and she leaves for a while. Doesn't come back, man. Car door hook car hand man you got it.

Speaker 4:

Holy shit, it's hot down here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and in some of these creepy videos there's man with gimp mask. Oh yeah.

Speaker 5:

Who's?

Speaker 2:

this guy.

Speaker 5:

Oh I wonder who that could be.

Speaker 2:

Who? No, we don't know.

Speaker 5:

We don't know.

Speaker 4:

We'll never know, we'll never know, we don't know the mystery is so mysterious yeah essentially, we got thrown into a world of kidnapping murder Man's father dies, finds a bunch of VHS tapes, leads to a bunch of very concerning things in a police investigation that does not require this person to turn over all of the rest of the tapes.

Speaker 5:

So I don't think there is a police investigation. There's just this detective, and the police won't even talk to either of them.

Speaker 4:

I think he's just like I'm retiring in two months, like I'll sit on this case till I fucking leave.

Speaker 5:

Is Detective Adams an independent like a private investigator?

Speaker 3:

He's a private dick.

Speaker 5:

I'm not actually certain that they ever state that he's like associated with a police department because they go to the cops at some point and the cops are like nah, he found him on Craigslist yeah.

Speaker 2:

I'm a detective Sure, fuck it, why not? According to you. Yes, give me 10 grand, I'll solve this case for you sure why not?

Speaker 4:

um, yeah, we essentially ended off with, uh, detective adams. I had said that detective adams was shutting the youtube page down. Um, I'm gonna go over that a little bit more, simply because the last bit of last episode in the beginning of this episode are kind of overlapping just a little bit, just simply because of how the story is being told. Um, so, again, computer footage was found. We get this, this kill scene from do not continue. Um, with a blonde girl that was tied up, bloody, begging for her life. Killer takes his time and then eventually we see her dead and that's kind of where we end off.

Speaker 4:

I thought we were going to get a video number 42 in the series, if you're following along, also the meaning of life. This one's called Confronting my Sister and at the very beginning, if you'll remember, every video starts off with the date that it was being posted and then it goes over a brief overview of what is happening in the video and it launches into it. So this one was on January 12th 2012. And it says after meeting my sister, I had to ask why she lied. Now, for the sake of just clarity and streamlining, I'm going to start referring to my dad's tapes as Chris Right, because in one of my next couple of videos we do actually find out that that is his name, because he's addressed by his first name Crisp, crisp, pee-pee-bis, crisp.

Speaker 5:

Crispy Pee-bee-bis. Yes, find out that that is his name, because he's addressed by his first name, crisp.

Speaker 4:

Crisp pp this pp this yes um so this, this video called confronting my sister. It's literally the the camera set up showing just this woman, this blonde woman, in a kitchen and we hear chris uh from my dad's tapes asking questions and the first thing he asks is like hey, why the fuck did you lie to me about going to visit dad? If you'll remember, we talked about how the hospice nurse, melissa, had brought up that there were a bunch of different visitors that came to visit, uh, chris's dad, yeah, and she said that, a she had never been and b she's not sure who's going to go visit. Well, we find out that both of those things are lies in previous episodes.

Speaker 4:

This is the first time that chris has actually had a chance to you lie um, and she, she spouts off some some fucking bullshit about how like she wants to protect him from the darker parts of, like, who his dad was. Um, there's a whole bunch of bullshit about why she didn't see, like she didn't want chris to see him for who he was. Basically she was hiding reality, she was veiling reality from chris thinking that she was protecting him. But in like, apparently that's just not happening here. Um, he asked her if she thinks that, you know, could dad kill somebody? And she's, she's, she waits for a second, she goes oh my god, yeah, actually I, I don't like that I have to answer this way, but yes, I absolutely think that dad could kill someone I guess it's not the end of the episode.

Speaker 5:

It is just when jason's talking we've, we've that's the science experiment here I must have missed what was funny, because I'm not sure what's happening.

Speaker 2:

I don't know why she lied, why do? You think that's just like she just ate hot chip and lied why do you think I picked? The first section this week.

Speaker 4:

It's because I wanted to make sure that it was. Maybe it was like whoever picks the last section just gets bucked over.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, that was the whoever picks the last section. Just that was fucked over. Yeah, that was the theory from last last episode and it is. Yeah, we'll see by the time the last part rolls around.

Speaker 3:

We're gonna be. It's so stupid. I don't know why that. No, it's.

Speaker 4:

It's a hundred percent, it's whatever. Whatever is with my face and voice, that combo just tells everybody around me hey, whatever this man's saying is probably not important no, it's not true, it's just no, it, no, it is. Most of the things I say are probably because you're so entertaining that you late.

Speaker 5:

You lift the floor of laughter I and so the slightest thing will just tip anyone I appreciate the effort there, matt, I I did do.

Speaker 4:

Thank you, go ahead. I'm sorry, I don't know why that got me so so much it's because I'm talking.

Speaker 2:

It's just a nice, nice voice. It puts me in a comfy Zone.

Speaker 4:

Um fuck, what was I just talking about? Right, right, right. So. Interview With the sister. Chris asks his Sister if she thinks that he could actually Kill someone. Meaning all Of these things in the tapes that we're finding is that is this something that could be real.

Speaker 5:

He asks every single person. He talks to the same question every person every single person's like.

Speaker 4:

Well, maybe I don't know, I feel like you should stop asking this question maybe you have your answer there, bud. I think you know. Yeah, I think you do. Um, so yeah, she's. Again. She says yes, absolutely, I think he could. Um, it takes her a while to think about it, but she does say absolutely, yes, um, he then asks about emily, if his sister's ever heard of the name emily, or as anyone from, uh, their father referred to as the one that got away. Now, if you guys will remember, the last girl that we saw was A blonde girl tied to some sort of fixture in a basin somewhere from the do not continue video. We know that they have somebody blonde and all of the facts are kind of lining up right now to make to tell us that this, in fact, is emily. Emily, oh, 100. Um.

Speaker 4:

So she asked about, uh, the one that got away and or, I'm sorry he asked that to her and he asked like did she ever, did he ever mention anything about the like the one that got away? And and there's literally a five-minute answer, and I must have listened to this three times and she never answers the question. Oh, sick.

Speaker 2:

It's a non-answer answer, just not even at all.

Speaker 4:

She gave a politician answer. She starts talking about dad's faith, how he went to church. She vaguely mentions something about another church, and so the gist of this is that dad joined a cult is what I got from it. Anytime anyone starts talking about well, like yes, he's very faithful, he talked to this church, but then he like joined this other weird church, and I can't really nail it down. As soon as I fucking hear that, I'm like cool, so he's cult 100. That's you joined a cult. Um, and oh, actually, now that I say that out loud, the fact that I thought that is really funny, considering where this goes, yeah, um, that's very funny. So, absolutely, this man is a part of some religious organization.

Speaker 5:

I wouldn't say it's where this goes. It's just where this briefly stops off at that.

Speaker 3:

You know that's a much better way of putting it and just takes off again they, they see it while they're driving down the road so she reiterates again yes, absolutely, he could kill a person.

Speaker 4:

Um, and so, uh, chris and his sister then start talking about how they can't imagine him being an actual killer. She starts saying something about how he she felt that there was some darkness about him and he needed to purge. And he wasn't, and she wasn't sure if, uh, he ever actually did purge. Whatever darkness was a part of it, a part of him, but she wishes that he would of him, but she wishes that he would. She then starts talking about how she loved him. He's their dad. And then she 180s and immediately launches into a tirade about how he is not at all fit to be a father and he was a bastard. Like she literally goes from like I loved him, like he's our father, he cared for us this, that and the other. And then I'm like a switch flipped and she's like, yeah, but fuck this guy, he sucks, but he's, he's the worst dad ever. Fuck this guy.

Speaker 4:

He's not fit to be fathered. Um, she starts talking about how, uh, their dad looked at uh chris differently from the rest of the siblings, almost in a more positive light, which is actually something that we don't hear about. Whenever we hear about like a sibling story, like the cookie cutter cliche sibling story, it's because they're not paid attention to, they're not paid the attention they're owed. Chris, being one of the younger siblings, got a ton of attention paid to him and that made his other siblings a little bit jealous. You want to hold daddy's stabbing knife? Apparently, the answer is yes, boy, do I. And she kind of just trails off and that's the whole fucking video. It's just this interview with his sister about some weird ass shit, about like possibilities around their dad. No concrete answers.

Speaker 5:

Just a bunch of jokes. I'm just going to get this out of the way. There are so many videos exactly like that in this second half so many. There's one with Lilith, there's one with his fucking mom, and it's all the same fucking thing. He asks some questions, there's no concrete answers to any of them, and then that's the end of the video.

Speaker 4:

The rest of my videos are like this.

Speaker 2:

Are you ready for film school student?

Speaker 4:

Save it for the end, mike. Um, so that's the, the video 43. That's the entirety of it and I will say this kind of sets the pace for how things are going to go from here on out. Um, so sorry, video 42, not video 43. Video 43 was was filmed or released January 16, 2012. And the first thing we learn is that Chris or my dad's tapes was let go from his job because he just can't let any of this go and apparently it's interfering with his actual life. Also, apparently, the storage unit there was something we missed. There was an envelope in there that said uncle Don, thank you. I knew we couldn't get past that. Yes, uncle Don.

Speaker 4:

Vito Go be fed somewhere. But we get this envelope with uncle Don written on it, um, and there's a news clipping in it from 1989, and it's it's a great fucking year. That's when Disney rolls came out um, there's a catholic priest slide to speak at 7 30 on sunday evening um at the tucson baptist temple I'm just nonchalant.

Speaker 3:

You're about it every time like, oh yeah, that is when any time a date is set, it you, just you that in there 100%.

Speaker 4:

Thanks for explaining the joke. Mike Now shut up. I didn't really understand why this was included here until I read the subtext under one of the pictures.

Speaker 4:

So it's an ad, for it shows Dr Lewis Johnson, pastor, and Dr Bart Brewer. Apparently both are very heavily involved with this church, the Tucson Baptist Temple. It's not a church, it's a temple, and there's nothing that says this is a Catholic church or a Christian church. The only thing it says is former Catholic priest to speak 730 Sunday evening, and then it said Tucson's largest bus ministry. Underneath that, in quotes, it says we love children.

Speaker 4:

Oh, twiggo warning oh, that seemed pretty normal up until that very last minute, right, and when you say it like that yeah I have candy, get in the bus church I know that's what it alludes to for sure, and that's where it goes. I would say it's trigger warning, but I don't think that's where this is alluding to. I think this is alluding to the, the, the fucking 11 bodies, in the wake of this fucking travesty of vhs tapes that we've just seen. I love kids, charlie I love kids.

Speaker 2:

Well, all the people that we saw in those videos were around 18 or younger, so kids technically kids, they're like legally legally, we can't kill you if you're not 18 yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 4:

Um. So we get this newspaper clipping and then we also say we also see oh yeah, by the way, there's also this other stuff A webcam, a survival knife, three emerald studded rings, the Chaos Emeralds. This is Dr Robotnik and a copy of Men Magazine with a polar bear on it from December 1953. Great issue and the biggest article highlights in this issue of Men Magazine from 1953 was how to have better sex and why you should join the KKK.

Speaker 4:

Oh one of those things is you're not fucking wrong, um, but that's the end of uh video 43. Kkk. How to fuck the KKK? Um, we go on a video 44. This is called Shut Down. It's released or filmed, I can't tell which January 18th 2012. And this is very simply like an eight and a half minute video of Detective Adams telling us why he has received has gotten no results from this investigation. Oh, you got one of those too.

Speaker 4:

But also why we should like Chris should not be helping, and also that we're. You know YouTube's getting shut down and we go oh man, right, so it gets shut down, so does it matter.

Speaker 3:

I will say in lieu of this episode I believe this is where the new youtube actually comes into play.

Speaker 4:

After this, yes, okay this is where the new one gets gets. Activated is after detective adams shuts this down for the. What second time now? Or is this this?

Speaker 3:

is the first time technically that, like he's put the he put. Basically he took the shutdown of his youtube and he actually played it off with this video, except he has videos that he has the new YouTube videos that he uploaded in place of other videos that got removed from the channel, also allude to the fact that his YouTube channel got banned.

Speaker 4:

So totally inconsistent A little bit, don't pay attention to the man behind the curtain A wee bit Don't pay attention to the man behind the tapes.

Speaker 2:

So 8 and a half minutes of Detective Adams, reassuring Chris a wee bit don't pay attention to the man behind the tapes.

Speaker 4:

so 8 and a half minutes of detective adams reassuring chris that they are doing everything they can to to do what they can. But then also he asks so what's the update? And he goes well, we have nothing. And that's when he's like you can just tell. He's like just go fuck yourself. And so he really reiterates, detective adams really reiterates the fact that they, they, they are in over their heads and he, he hands over a note written to the police department by the killer in a bunch of symbols. It's a cipher of some sort. But fucking detective adams goes we don't know what this is, you shouldn't be involved with this.

Speaker 4:

But also here take this from the killer. We can't. We don't know what it is. You're just gonna have it now and you're gonna figure it out, and then he, and then, after he gives the note away, he goes stop getting involved. You don't know what you're doing. This is super dangerous and I'm like but you just gave him a note a man's murdered eight women.

Speaker 2:

Here's the only clue towards this man.

Speaker 5:

You have this the only clue, aside from all of the clues that he's uploaded to his youtube channel right, yeah, right.

Speaker 4:

so when I saw this, I'm like One of two things is happening here.

Speaker 5:

A, the police are being the police and just lazy as shit and saying like ooh, look a fucking citizen PI that we don't have to pay. Or is Detective Adams not putting two and two together? That do not continue and the killer are the same person.

Speaker 4:

I guess if I were a detective on this case and I were looking at all the information I'm not a detective. That's not what I'm asking that's.

Speaker 5:

You know what. You know what you're right, you're a terrible detective it's a yes or no a poorly written, terrible detective I'm detective peralta, this is my partner terrible

Speaker 2:

yeah you know, what I should probably solve crimes in scotland.

Speaker 4:

That's well. That's also probably also the just get drunk and facelessly speculate, right if anybody's fucking with this, it's the loch ness monster. Then you know what? There's a crime that happened here.

Speaker 4:

Well, I guess we should just get drunk and forget about it it's fine, um, so yeah, this whole video the shutdown video is essentially detective adam's going. We're shutting you down, but also we are relying on you to solve this riddle. Don't understand it, but here we go. So after this, we get video 45. It's just simply called scientology. Um, this one I had to do a bit of digging for and, if I'm 100% honest, I'm so fucking angry at how much effort it took me to find this actual video.

Speaker 5:

This is the Buc-ee's that's on the way through. What is the journey of my desk?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, so January 23rd 2012. This is a ten and a half minute video about the belief systems of Scientology South Park. Did it?

Speaker 5:

You can actually find most of these. I did find the archive of this channel on the Wayback Machine.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, this was there for that.

Speaker 3:

So if you, so choose Slash user, slash my dad tape.

Speaker 4:

you can go watch 10 and a half minutes of some random tweaker talking about Scientology, but that's what this is.

Speaker 4:

Again, South Park does it the best I understand and I agree, but here we are doug, um, thank god. So this is this. This woman shows up, this brunette woman shows up. She's talking about how she's involved with scientology and she goes over like the basic belief system which is like hey, you pay 40 bucks a class and every time you take a class you get closer and closer to the end, which, in my mind, I'm like scam that's just a scam.

Speaker 3:

But what if you're just full of thetans or feed on or I? Don't know yo, I I'm not gonna lie and this is just a big spoiler, but I have a phone number in my section, a different phone number oh, god, are God, are we calling it? I mean we have to right.

Speaker 5:

Oh, the one from the.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, his sister's phone number. We'll go over that later.

Speaker 5:

There's also a phone number on an adult video store, match box.

Speaker 3:

We're calling so many people. We're ordering so much porn.

Speaker 4:

Right, okay. So so we get testimony. Um. There's a 10 minute video. There's this brunette woman that starts talking about her involvement. Her name is madeline um madeline and she's. She's talking about how culty and suppressing scientology is.

Speaker 3:

Um she felt safe in this tight-knit community my question is does any of this have anything to do with anything? No, that's good.

Speaker 4:

So do I just go to the next one? Yeah, cool. So, yes, this woman talks about Scientology a whole bunch. Apparently, she met L Ron Hubbard. The only thing to take away from this is the fact that she was stored in a basement for a couple days. She said it was no big deal and everybody was super nice, and she actually didn't really realize it was happening. No, no, it's straight. It's straight. It's straight, it's fine. She did that, and then the next fucking breath, she goes. I never thought I was gonna leave. I was terrified. Uh, the writing is impeccable, so take that how you will. Um, that's the entirety of scientology video 46, second computer footage. So we just talked about, uh, actually, we ended off on the computer footage video right on, uh, part one. So this is the second iteration of the computer footage video, and this was uploaded january 24th 2012. You guys are never gonna believe this, but remember that video we saw of that blonde girl named emily getting killed I do not continue so many yeah, it's, it's.

Speaker 4:

It's again, same, again, same yep, pretty much more or less neat same video, so confirmed she's dead.

Speaker 2:

47 twice now. This video is named melissa. Is she though?

Speaker 5:

we will find out in my part in the emily trilogy, and then again in my part and then, and then again in the video after that the rest of this series is just people reiterating that you know he sure hates this.

Speaker 4:

He keeps killing her oh no it's over and over again um if you're listening to this, my dad's tape.

Speaker 3:

I'm, I'm, I. I've never made anything myself, but I'm so sorry for what you've made you know that's that is fair and we should start with that every time being like we've never done anything creative. I'm sorry for what you made I'm sorry for what you've done um so we get, uh, we get, we get this video called melissa.

Speaker 4:

Now, one thing I do want to go over is, at the end of the, the, the first part, the part one of this, when I was talking about, uh, all the different shit was going on then with the, the dead bodies, melissa, the, the phone caller, the anonymous caller that's blowing the whistle on shit. It's just me, right, it's just me it's just me.

Speaker 3:

I literally just like looked over and I just see fucking mike just being like I do nothing.

Speaker 4:

It's just me, okay. I'm doing nothing, okay, um, so we, we. The last thing we left off on part one was that melissa had been divulging a bunch of this information and one of the things we learned from her is that she had a bunch of journals from chris's dad. He was very interested in seeing what was in those journals and she said she had access to them. So melissa says you know what, let's meet up again.

Speaker 4:

But she was also like this is probably illegal, but I'll see what I can do yeah, 100, and she seemed a little apprehensive, but more or less like willing to just do this shit anyway. Um, so block number calls, but it's melissa, so it's not the same number. She says she's coming for another visit and when she gets there she says you know what? Last time we talked, we talked about who came to visit your dad and I said your sister came to visit your dad. I forgot there was a random letter in the visitor log and just said e came to visit, but she forgot. She saw that Could that be Emily, I'm guessing. Emily, right, or Enzo Ezio From fucking Assassin's Creed. Yeah, okay, ebola, ebola, ebola was here.

Speaker 4:

Now I'm assuming that Emily is this E person, simply because we've heard that name so much, attached to the one that got away. We've been talking about that so much lately. So what does that say? Oh, sorry. So she starts talking about how Chris's dad was super depressed and Apparently he was saying Like some weird crazy things, saying like I want, I want, uh, chris to come after me. Like I want, I want chris to come after me. And she never knew what that meant. We are gonna find out what that meant later, not right now, though. Um, so she does say, like you know what this is? Super, chris, you're going to hear from me soon. My project has already started and I'm going to be bugging you, but I can't tell you what it is right now and then she literally just stands up and walks away. Super weird, super uncomfortable. All that tells me is that this Melissa person is not our friend. We thought she was our friend, but she knows something that we don't, and now she's being super shady about it. If that was supposed to be hidden, it's not here. We are sure, baby. So we're gonna move right along to journal part one.

Speaker 4:

So on february 6 2012, this video got posted and this is from the journal that was found inside the storage unit. Um, this was again like a six and a half minute video or some shit, but it was literally just a reading of a journal entry from chris's dad, and it was about how nothingness turned into feeling by attaching it to the opposites, and he just felt depressed and sad, like his life was nothing, and somebody gave him a purpose and he said sadness turned to happiness, joy, suffering turned to joy. We got some pleasure from pain going on here. So many sites to show you, uh, life, but the big overarching theme was life from death, meaning this person, his father, chris's father, mdt's father found new life in these killings that happened and that's going to start to allude to certain things, almost kind of like a reincarnation or like a new leaf turnover type thing, almost like a new person is born from this, like a phoenix rising from the ashes um, but that's the entirety of the video.

Speaker 4:

It's just, it's a long poem about turning suffering into joy and how to do that. Uh, next video is journal part two, and this was three days later, february 9th 2012, and there's a bunch of inferences to missing siblings, uh, from like one of chris's misses missing siblings. Now, so far, we've we've heard of chris, we've heard of his sister, but that's about it. We know her name, yet I don't. Madeline. No, yeah, madeline, madeline. Sure, let me double check. I'm pretty sure it's okay that's fine.

Speaker 3:

I just wanted to make sure I wasn't.

Speaker 4:

I wasn't actually sure if we had talked about her name or not, yet my dad's tapes and your dad's tapes no one can confirm the name of the character yeah, actually I don't have the name for for his sister, I know what it is.

Speaker 3:

I just okay, let's make sure.

Speaker 4:

No, no, that's fine, said it yet I I have not. I don't think it has been said.

Speaker 3:

If I'm being honest, correct, probably that's like I know, I don't know actually, because I only watched my part and not your part only my parts, so moving right along to journal part two to a missing sibling that we haven't heard about yet.

Speaker 4:

We've met chris. We've met, uh, chris's sister and we've seen her in camera. We have no idea this other missing sibling. Um, we get some text from the journal and this starts off by saying, like this doesn't make much sense, this is like the scrawlings of a mad person. And so we get all down one side of a page it says burn the trailer over and over and over again. And on the other side it says change his story. And then we flip it and there's two sets of sent statements, I guess, and they say I got away, I space, got space away. And then underneath that it says I got a way, I got a way, super menacing, but super, I knew the way.

Speaker 4:

Um, and then we get these like random ass pictures, like there's like some squares or and some triangles and circles, just random ass shapes and the word melissa twice on a piece of paper. Um, nope, we find out that these random shapes are actually a design. What these note pages contain? The prototype design of the very first iteration of the mask that the killer is wearing, whoever that might be. The gimp mask. The gimp mask, yeah, man ray, again jimp it's jimp jimp mask.

Speaker 4:

It's a jimp mask. Um, there's a huge note right after this that says I'm actually sorry for all the things that I'm doing. Like, like, I actually mean this, legitimately, I am sorry. And then you go on to say if you do the right thing, no one will notice. No one ever noticed, no one ever knew, except for the souls I saved. We can kind of infer who the fuck that's from. Um, it's, uh, chris's dad, my dad. Yeah, okay, a hundred percent. Yeah, chris's dad killed a bunch of people. He felt bad that they had to die, but he didn't feel bad about the killing portion of it because he thought that was the right thing to do. Alright, real quick. It seemed like he was really having a whale of a time, though.

Speaker 3:

to be honest, I feel like if you were just like.

Speaker 5:

I gotta do this. You wouldn't be like, hey, I'm gonna make these fucking horror fucking.

Speaker 3:

Everyone who knew this already from episode one forward, raise your hand.

Speaker 2:

My dad left me a bunch of weird tapes With a man with a gimp mask. Wonder who this man in my dad's tapes could be.

Speaker 4:

Probably fucking dad dude, probably bro, this is simply the confirmation that Chris' dad is the killer In the tapes.

Speaker 3:

Chris was like I can't believe it.

Speaker 4:

We're gonna get another piece of confirmation. I didn't.

Speaker 1:

I would have not're going to get another piece of confirmation.

Speaker 3:

I just didn't see this coming. I didn't. I would have not guessed. My dad no.

Speaker 4:

So, very end of this note, this journal entry, we get a random there must be more that verifies that this isn't true. Here. I did, gerald no.

Speaker 5:

We have to dive into this further 38 more videos further. Oh easily we have to dive into this further 38 more videos, further easily oh fuck I hurt.

Speaker 4:

Um. Last thing I want to say about this video very end of the video, we get four words with a circle around the first letters in each and simply the words california, georgia, florida, hawaii, with cgfh circle. That's it. Next video, video 50. This is released on february 13th 2012. So it's actually been uh, actually no, it's only four days. Never mind, sometimes he likes to post a couple days apart and then all of a sudden it's like a month difference. It's very random sometimes. So this one starts off with more journal entries and it shows the name, uh, gerald smith, over and, over and over again, and we know who gerald smith is.

Speaker 3:

That's dad chris smith, what a shit name.

Speaker 4:

100 um, but then on the other side of the page it's followed by another name and it's very manic looking, but it says Sam Smith.

Speaker 3:

Also, if your name is Chris Smith and you're listening to this, I apologize. But, you have a fucking stupid name.

Speaker 4:

The other name is Sam Smith. Sam Smith, have we heard?

Speaker 3:

Sam at all. Yet what about Stan Smith? Good morning, I feel like that is gonna be a wonderful day.

Speaker 5:

We're water anyway whenever I get to change the battery in my car of inoxides so we see this and it's just a devolution.

Speaker 4:

It says Sam Smith legibly at the top, but by the time we reach the end of the page you have no fucking idea what it says and eventually it just scribbles. The next page we see is a torn out page, but it clearly fucking says emily on the page in like big, like scrawled, scribbled writing. There's very much torn out and it's we then get into like a an ode to Emily's screams ah yes. Saying like I wish I could go back and experience your screams again. They were the best of the bunch, like and then it was followed by the most narcissistic apology I've ever fucking heard in my life. It essentially said like I'm sorry that you can't comprehend the things that I'm doing.

Speaker 3:

Not everybody can comprehend the doings of a god on earth, like it's really unfortunate that there's so much fucking potential for a good, well-crafted horror story to be here and we get this fucking thing I'm happy you said that right now, because we're about to find out where this is going and I'm sorry, yes do we ever figure out where it's going right now.

Speaker 4:

Yes, okay, like where the overarching theme for this is just gets puked up right now. So, um, so we get this note, this apology from chris's father saying he's sorry, but also I'm god. Um, it's signed, and it's signed with four symbols, and if anybody around our age looks at these symbols, they probably will know where it comes from, is it?

Speaker 3:

the S yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4:

It's not the S, no, it's just four symbols, but they're taken directly from the Zodiac Killer's note. Of course they are 100%. We've been seeing the same symbols in the mask drawing. They were hidden there and it's all kind of lining up to show off that whoever's killing these people is the fucking Zodiac Killer hmm, boo he's back at it more of this note and it's signed by the Zodiac Killer and they talk about how they're going to be.

Speaker 4:

They've been reincarnated before they died. They will be reincarnated before they died. They will be reincarnated again, and chris's father feels that he is the reincarnation of the zodiac killer okay, I was about to say it's not the zodiac killer, it's the, it's the copycat it's literally all right, all right all right it is a game jack to sane people.

Speaker 4:

But to the insane mind, this person absolutely thinks that he is the zodiac killer and he's very upset that his son has not shown any interest in following in the same footsteps. But that's the. That's all we get from video 50. I will say that's a lot of info to glean from a short video like that, but it's the most info we've gotten so far and it's the most excited I've been about any videos I've seen up until now. Um, let's go on a video 51. This is the most pointless fucking video ever. It literally it talks about how do you guys remember talking about the 200 park avenue address with uh city bank and there was a deposit made and shit. This is a follow-up with that. Oh wow, glad we, glad we've got some resolution on that.

Speaker 4:

He talks to them, they go. Yeah, this was only a Citibank after 2002.

Speaker 5:

But the deposit slip says Yep, way before that.

Speaker 4:

We'll get there, but this is a five-minute video. This is all that happens in the video. It's just yeah, this deposit wasn't made by city bank, it was made by somebody else. That's it, 100. I think it could have been shorter, though. No, just like the scientology video anyway, uh, following, yep yep, yep. Video 52 posted February 16th 2012. This is a video elucidating the fact that Detective Adams left a message in the very morning of February 16th, did you?

Speaker 4:

not do what you were doing, mike asking to talk about something important and apparently he calls all day and eventually he leaves another message. Do you guys just want to play that message? No, it's 43 seconds long.

Speaker 3:

Oh, that's too long.

Speaker 4:

It might be that's an extra track I have to add to the audio on the episode.

Speaker 6:

Hey, chris, it's Adam here. I didn't want to do it this way and leave the message on your voicemail, but I got no choice. The car reported as abandoned, so they had it towed in. They brought it into the yard here. Chris, it's Kathleen's car. I need to know. Last time you talked to her. I'm sorry about this, but just we're hearing as soon as you get this message, okay, thanks, bye.

Speaker 3:

You're listening on Spotify. Sorry that you don't have subtitles.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, 100%. That was a very Scottish accent. I thought that would be way more understandable. It is not. Essentially, detective Adams is calling Chris to tell him hey, your girlfriend's car was reported as abandoned yesterday. Girlfriend's car was reported as abandoned yesterday. Now, for my own sanity, I need to run through something with you guys. Okay, here's the timeline. This message was left on Chris's phone February 16th 2012. So they knew about this the very morning of February 16th 2012. The last time Chris saw his girlfriend was Valentine's Day, the 14th, two days ago. So let's say a day and a half. To be 100% honest, valentine's Day date at night, first thing in the morning she's missing. That's two days for her car to be reported abandoned. Okay.

Speaker 2:

Go on. Does that make sense to you?

Speaker 4:

If you parked at my place for two days, would you expect you to be reported abandoned, your car to be reported abandoned? I'd be a little upset, that's for sure. Would you expect it though? Well, where was?

Speaker 3:

the car.

Speaker 5:

They didn't say Well, yeah, if it's just like parked on the road or parked in like a Target parking lot and it's been sitting there for two days, they're probably gonna that's the thing that kills me. If I left my car in a Walmart parking lot for two days, I would expect it not to be there when I got back.

Speaker 4:

I have left my car in so many Walmart, jewel and Target parking lots for more than three days that I have a hard time believing this. That's just me, though.

Speaker 5:

That's my own personal experience. I've never left my vehicle in a public place and expected it to be there. I got that.

Speaker 4:

It is locked. I just don't expect something to be the way I see it. If you're in a big name parking lot or some urban area and your car is parked For two days, a day and a half, 36 hours, even 48, no one's going to ask about it. It's just there. It just depends on where it is. The only time that I can see this actually being an issue is if somebody is looking for somebody to be missing and they found the evidence because they were scrutinizing it very hard. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3:

Yeah no, I get what you're saying. If you leave your car in a target parking lot for three days it that doesn't seem like out of this world you see, your girlfriend february 14th.

Speaker 4:

If you're reported missing and they find your car in a target parking lot three days later, then that makes sense, but but he saw what you're saying within 36 hours he saw his girlfriend and within that 36 hours they booked. I'm assuming it's valentine's day, but also like she went from going to see him valentine's day to 36 hours later, car abandoned and reported missing.

Speaker 3:

That's an insane timeline we've got a mystery on her that is an absolutely insane timeline to me.

Speaker 4:

I can't get behind that. I don't know why somebody would look at a car that's been there for less.

Speaker 2:

I think it's probably just bad writing and you're looking too deep into it.

Speaker 3:

That's the point mike, um, you've got one more video.

Speaker 1:

I got one more video this is the last one, I promise, so it's been a week this promise.

Speaker 4:

So it's been a week. This is video 53. It's been a week since Kathleen's gone missing. Do not continue. Has left a message on Chris's voicemail at this point saying in some fashion he wants to meet up. There's also a voicemail from Kathleen saying that she is alive and she also will not be saved, aka will not be killed. However, chris has to meet somebody in burbank at 11 sharp. They don't specify am or pm. Now that's my last video to talk about, I will say. The only the only thing I want to say is, between all of these videos outlining the kathleen disappearances, um, the my dad's tapes twitter was receiving like proof of life in the background. He was doing his own investigations, he was talking with other people on it and he was trying to get to the bottom of it. Um, but I was because of the state of the twitter, I wasn't actually able to see like full conversations, so I don't have much yeah, I will say moving forward.

Speaker 3:

Not that I have the next set of videos, but uh, it's almost impossible now at this juncture to pinpoint when Do Not Continues videos were coming out, between what videos they were coming out. All we have to work off of, because of the Wayback Machine and what's archived and what's not, is what we see on in my Dad's Tapes, videos and what he says. Because the Twitter, you could maybe line it up, but because of the YouTube ban and all that shit, it doesn't line up anymore, so it's very confusing.

Speaker 5:

You can see some of them towards the end if you go to the archive for MyDadstapescom, but it ends at the first two pages or something like that.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah, and we will tell you why at the end of all this.

Speaker 2:

Wowee, wowee. So here's the fun thing, ladies and gentlemen you just met jason. Jason just gave you the meat and potatoes.

Speaker 4:

You have entered the lightning round you've entered the lightning round because I know I talked for half this episode, but it goes way quicker after this.

Speaker 2:

So here we go, I'm gonna go now. So, episode we get some shit that pops up and it's little messages, like we get before, and basically it says that in return for Kathleen's return, we meet up with Do Not Continue. They both sit down at what looks like a fucking Chili's or something and they're filming each other. It shows this Do Not Continue, guy. We see his face, we found him and he looks like. He just looks like a dude, he's just a guy. He's not like menacing, he's just a fucking guy. And so, with a beanie, yeah, he's a fucking dude with a beanie, so he's not a problem, he's a hipster, um, so they're filming each other, knocked loose, probably. Matt, you tell us you have a beanie and like knocked loose, um so, um.

Speaker 2:

So it starts off with him sitting down and then he's setting up like a flip cam yeah, he's setting up like a flip cam all while our guy chris is recording him setting up this flip cam. So they're just gonna record each other and uh, baby, it's margarita time because, like is, this a video.

Speaker 5:

Do not continue like the first video two margaritas over here, and so they do that, and then and then I'm pretty sure they only bring him one, margarita they think yes, I was literally about to say that so it is such a good fucking margarita.

Speaker 4:

It's about to be so it's margarita time.

Speaker 2:

He says two margaritas and they bring him one. Um wait, the wait staff. Terrible at this, chili's or whatever. Also the acting atrocious this is.

Speaker 5:

This is maybe the worst spot of acting in the entire the truth. Can I also add?

Speaker 4:

the. The whole interview with uh fucking chris's sister was like you're just reading all of these, like you can tell so this video we see chris's face though.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yes, he looks like a fucking dweeb. I'm sorry, this guy's a fucking dork man. Um, how did? How did you guys put it early?

Speaker 5:

whole series fucking personally insult him too was it?

Speaker 3:

was it matt who said it? I think you were like, yeah, he should have paid someone to like, act as himself he just, he looks like, just like a guy.

Speaker 2:

He doesn't look like your hero, antagonist or protagonist. He just looks like a dude. He looks like he works in an accounting firm.

Speaker 3:

To be fair on my parts, I didn't see his face prior to this, so when I was hearing him talk throughout my entire 12 episodes, I was like this guy's a dork.

Speaker 2:

And that's coming from me, no problem. I'm a fucking loser dork myself.

Speaker 3:

Oh no, I know you could just tell the voice, he's also very not amped up about this very dire situation that's happening.

Speaker 5:

He's just like can I have her back? Yeah, so that's the thing. So they're just sitting here.

Speaker 2:

Our guy. Do not continue. Finally, we're face to face with a murderer and he's just sitting there just like, like a horribly written villain. He's just like you. You don't even know what's going on and he's like are you gonna talk to me? Where's?

Speaker 3:

fucking monologue, he's like where's kathleen like?

Speaker 2:

can I see her? He's like you talk too much. He's like well, where's? Where's kathleen like, is she? Can I see her? He's like you don't even realize how deep you're in the hole. So the answer is yes and also yes, and so the whole thing is just Chris asking Do Not Continue questions and Do Not Continue is not answering any of them, so he just sits there like a smug prick, just like that kind of like jockey yes, baby Good.

Speaker 2:

I do and so uh, uh, do not continue. Finally picks up. He's been sipping on his drink this entire time, his Marg, he's the only one Cause. Again. Waiter only gave him one margarita when he asked for two, um, but so he's sipping on it. Finally takes a big one. He's like that's a damn good margarita. And baby, we got there. It is there, it is. He said nothing. That's a damn good margarita. The tagline and uh, they talk about shit that doesn't mean fuck and it sounds like a cheesy soap opera.

Speaker 5:

Uh, and again, literally just the same, back and forth.

Speaker 2:

the entire time it's the same thing and we're literally jumping from footage of the flip cam and do not contain his flip cam to our guy's cell phone cam and I'm like really convenient for the murderer just to give him this footage and he does that he just like, leaves him the flip camera yeah because at the end he's like oh yeah, he left me the camera and I looked through it and at the end there's like a two minute video of just a guy in a mask just going, just nodding.

Speaker 2:

i'm'm like what the fuck is this? So then, episode 55. Let's jam into that bad boy. So this shows us an entry into the dad's journal. It's saying four words. We've heard these before California, Georgia, Florida, Hawaii.

Speaker 4:

Each of the first letters are circled.

Speaker 2:

Alpha numeric. What do they translate to Mike 3, 7, 6, 8. It's the third and first letters are circled Alpha numeric. What do they translate to Mike 3768. It's the third and the seventh and sixth and the eighth letter of the alphabet Chris Gerald, I don't know what the others are, so anyway.

Speaker 5:

I feel like everybody took it upon themselves to be infinitely more annoying to Mike.

Speaker 4:

I'm actually Welcome to our four hour episode. I had that thought and I'm trying actively to curb it, but it's not.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so uh, chris got the wonderful idea from like Twitter where people were like, oh, that might be a bank address, and somehow they pulled fucking three, seven, six, eight state street in Santa Barbara, california, out there, fucking ass.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it, just, it makes sense, yeah, and that's the whole explanation, yep. They're just like try this 100%. Yeah, there's no rhyme.

Speaker 2:

or reason Nope. So he goes to this bank and again, this is California home of Scottish uncle and Scottish cop Skunkle Skunkle and Scott Skunkle Don Vito, yeah. And so he goes to the bank and he discovers that there is a lockbox at this bank. And so the bank teller is like oh yeah, let's go get you your lockbox.

Speaker 4:

And he goes and he gets the lockbox A lockbox or a safety deposit.

Speaker 2:

Safety deposit box. Sorry, there's a safety deposit box. And he gets it and he goes in his private room and he opens it up and what do you see there?

Speaker 4:

The. Gimp mask.

Speaker 2:

It's almost like they oh fuck. And then he opens up the mask a little bit and there's a little letter boy in there and it's a note from Chris's dad to Chris and the note basically my dad's letters, my dad's letters, your dad's letters On 48 episode video on its own, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So this note basically says like hey, son, it's your turn to do some killing now. But, son, it's your turn to do some killing now. But here's the thing he's like. You know, normally it's tradition for you to create something of your own, like your own mask or something. I don't want you to do that I didn't want you to have fun.

Speaker 4:

I want you to put my killing.

Speaker 2:

I want you to wear my face to keep me immortal and alive through you now and then he says can I?

Speaker 4:

ask a quick question. Yeah, when he says me who does he mean?

Speaker 2:

I, I assume the dad, but I'm gonna assume because the zodiac killer thing, the zodiac killer, um so. So he's like keep, keep me alive, keep me immortal. He's like have fun. No, he's. And then he says stuff. He's like you know, I I didn't think it would be you, I always thought it'd be your brother, but he came out to be like a disappointment. So here you are. I'm really proud of you, buddy, go do some killing, have fun being a demigod.

Speaker 2:

And I'm just like go fuck yourself, yup and so edgelord supreme and so he then says that there's only four people who could have delivered these, but he doesn't say what these are. I'm assuming the letter, yes, but he never says that. But he says if melissa was correct about the number of visitors, um, then there could only be four people, uh, the four. If melissa was correct about the four visitors at the hospital that came and get them, that means there was only four, uh, people that could have, I guess, delivered these. Who?

Speaker 5:

are those four.

Speaker 2:

I don't fucking remember anymore, man, sister Yep Uncle.

Speaker 4:

Yep Wife, two more, no Brother.

Speaker 5:

No, uncle's brother.

Speaker 3:

Cousin.

Speaker 2:

Cousin. And the most important one Do not continue. Yeah, well, you know. Anyway, so that's that 56, shitty fix. So he notes that, uh, they're not gonna connect it like so. In episode 56 he notes that do not continue's. Uh, latest video that they uploaded, which we you can't really find that much of anymore hit a binary trail that led you to a image of a jigsaw puzzle. It's a jigsaw puzzle and you put it together and it also shows you a painting of that jigsaw puzzle. Turns out to be like a painting.

Speaker 5:

Is this the section where he introduces a puzzle and then immediately solves it? Yes.

Speaker 2:

For you. Yes, the puzzle is a painting and it's all fucked up and he's like. That looks like the fucked up version of the painting my uncle owns. It turns out, yeah.

Speaker 4:

And we flash back to the uncle, is Hitler.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, it was a spear of destiny. So it turns out that if you'll look back at the interview with the uncle, there's a painting. It's not even a painting, it's like a fucking tapestry. But it's like a painting on the side of the wall outside for some fucking reason. God damn it Skunkle Vito. It's that painting, but here now Okay. Wow. And then he says he now says he is coming for Kathleen now, so he's going out on a revenge spree. He's got this.

Speaker 4:

Hey, that's almost like where I was talking about how she went missing. Yeah, on, or for Sure For. Okay, that's almost like where I was talking about how she went missing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, honor for sure, for episode 57 doesn't exist anymore. You can't find it. I checked the way back machine we all did it's not there it's hard to find.

Speaker 3:

You can't find it. There's no finding it.

Speaker 3:

You can't find it unless you watch nightmind's video and if thank you nightmind little bit, little snippet this is a huge, pivotal part of the story and I'm going to bullet point this shit out of it for you. Basically, buddy goes to Don's house, uncle Don, and there's a bunch of fucking guys outside in the middle of the day wearing masks, being all fucking ominous for no reason. And he goes inside. And he goes hey, who the fuck are you, mr Red Mask man? When it's very clearly his uncle don, in a red mask, like the fuck, all right anyways. So he takes the mask off and he's like I'm your uncle don.

Speaker 3:

He's like I didn't, I know that I'm your uncle but he gives him a whole like history spiel of like why they're doing it and why you're supposed to do it and why he should be, and he goes you're fucked in the head, brother. And he goes no, you're fucked in the head, brother. And basically you just find out that his uncle don is one of the killers, that his fucking cousin is one of the killers. Uh, aka, do not continue. And uh, basically, uh, yeah, there's, that's that's kind of where we go from there. Uh, anyone at class, anyone have anything to add to that?

Speaker 2:

nope, that I forgot nothing important, uh, yeah, we just found out that everyone did.

Speaker 3:

You say kathleen gets killed because uh, no, no, yeah, you find out that kathleen was murdered well, it happens on video like well, yeah, you see it, yeah and it's the others.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it's moided.

Speaker 3:

She looks like she died just like the other ones did wow, horribly she gets buried alive oh yeah, that's right she gets fucking yeah, she gets fucking buried alive, kind of like if you've ever seen the thing. Uh, the movie megan is missing, that's.

Speaker 5:

It's horrendous yeah, you brought that up before and your description of that movie still sticks in my mind. Oh, it's terrible, it's horrendous. Yeah, you brought that up before and your description of that movie still sticks in my mind oh, it's terrible, it's so just awful if it's anything like that scene from the second house.

Speaker 4:

Is October built where they like, get taken to go be part of this haunted house and get buried alive instead cool.

Speaker 3:

Well, this, what we're talking about today, isn't worse than what Megan is missing is done, but it's Megan is missing is worse than October, or not October Underground.

Speaker 4:

This lies somewhere in between.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, this is just. You know, this is like the run of the mill buried alive.

Speaker 2:

Yep so episode 58.

Speaker 5:

People get killed.

Speaker 2:

Episode 58. So we're now at Kathleen's Memorial. After that fiasco that happened, big reveal, everyone's in on it. Jk Scottish cop is there and the cop is like Hi Lottie, I got a lead to go up north. It's gonna be a movie gone for quite a while. Before you see me again, I'm gonna need to read Fitty. He's a fur travel, but we find out.

Speaker 1:

We're not alone Wild. Quite a while before you see me again.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to need to read Fitty. He's a fur travel, Okay, Uh, but we find out. We're not alone. Wild A lady, a brown haired woman, just walks right up to fucking Chris and she's just like uh, you're going to die, dude, You're going to fucking die bro. Um, and she's like they're, she's like they're watching you, dude, and they're going to fucking kill you.

Speaker 4:

And we have not seen this lady before.

Speaker 2:

They're going to fucking kill you, Not that I recall. But if I'm being honest, all the women in this look the fucking same. I cannot tell you what murder victim one and murder victim eight are not the same person. Couldn't tell you.

Speaker 3:

How many people are dead at this point? Like 12 or something, I think it was if we include Melissa.

Speaker 4:

so how many people are dead at this point? Like 12 or something, 13? Uh?

Speaker 3:

if we include Melissa, 12, yeah.

Speaker 4:

Well, Melissa.

Speaker 5:

A lot.

Speaker 4:

Then yeah, 12.

Speaker 5:

We're at 12.

Speaker 4:

Body count at 12. Woo.

Speaker 2:

Um, anyway I mean how many?

Speaker 5:

times has Emily died. So I mean we can probably go as a series At least four.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, so. And then she just walks away and he's like bye, bye, lady, have a wonderful time. Episode 59.

Speaker 2:

This corny ass video where he's like he puts on there he's got like these, the fucking cinematic like text, like he does for all of them, where it says like the date or whatever. It's the black background with the white text and he's like I can't trust my friends, my girlfriend's been murdered, and all this in the background you hear like a of, like a heartbeat, and it's like you see video, like it's. It's, it's like video of, like his face and he's just like like all, like all, like disgruntled and like trying to be like a fucking action movie or something. And then it fades to black and it fades in and he puts on the fucking he's got like the killer's mask on his dad's mask on like he's fucking spider-man and he like looks up at the camera and he's just like oh, oh, god. And he's like I'm coming for you, do not continue, jump down in wwe, san francisco, brother, I'm coming for you if you guys want to know where this fucking series goes, I mean here we are.

Speaker 5:

This. This is the point where I lose the plot a little bit, because it loses itself. But just what's very confusing and very disappointing about the fact that video 57 seems to be missing now is that it seems to me that that is the grand reveal that his uncle and his cousin are behind this whole shit. But then there proceeds to be like 20 something more videos where there's a mystery still.

Speaker 3:

But it's not clear what they're trying to figure out anymore.

Speaker 5:

There's no reason for them to figure out anything.

Speaker 2:

Also, the Scottish cop doesn't have to go away cause he's like I gotta lead up north. We already know who kills. The killers are yeah, it's been answered, your lead is that person?

Speaker 5:

everything, literally.

Speaker 2:

I truly don't police problem solved, they admitted oh yeah, we're the killers.

Speaker 3:

They admitted it on camera I will tell you that I have at least three words to say about every video that I have in my section yeah, anyway, so like. It's just unbelievable what the story devolves into uh video 60.

Speaker 2:

He's like I got a floppy disk, let's see what's on, and it's a bunch of pictures of, uh, a woman getting tortured wow episode 61 we have yet another video of someone getting murdered, but he's like. I can't show this on youtube, so the link to the vimeo is in the chat and it's a blonde woman that's like chained up like the. I'm pretty sure we've seen this one before. She's like in her oh yeah, garments it's emily he's chained up, and then she gets quick um, it's not, though it's not emily.

Speaker 4:

I know it's not emily, but it could be very much looks like episode 62.

Speaker 2:

He's walking around hollywood boulevard. You see all the mascot people wanting five dollars for a picture. Fine, mario, um, it's shippy nuts and then he goes into a store and it's like a kinky kind of store because he's got like women's lingerie and he's like I want to buy that knife, I want and then he just buys a knife and that's it from the dildo. What the hell. What the hell.

Speaker 2:

Video 63. Says he's tried going into hiding, but but doesn't. But do not continue. Finds him and he leaves an animal skull in his car and he's like, oh, they've been tracking me through Jess's phone. Remember that plot device that we haven't brought up in like 40 fucking videos.

Speaker 4:

What the hell is that, jess and Bridget?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, jess and Bridget from like episode eight, so he's like we thought they were done I'm gonna turn off jess's phone, but before I do that, let's take a peek on the inside of the phone turns out there's a text from a number that just says teach me more. And he's like I have. I've been too scared to call it, so I didn't. I didn't do anything with the number. Uh, video 64. He talks with the cop. It's a 14-minute video. The cop is at his house and the cop's like we're shutting you down again.

Speaker 2:

I couldn't really find any updates for you. I'm so sorry and I'm just like come on, man. The cop mentions that the murders are changing a little bit. That's his catchphrase at this point. Yeah, he's like the, he's like I found the murders I've. We stumbled across another body and, uh, this one's a bit different. It's more gruesome, it's almost like it's ritualistic, like it's some sort of cult or something um and so um and then he could just give you the name of the scottish cop is like hi, lottie, I'll be leaving now, skip.

Speaker 2:

And he walks out the fucking door and um then it just lost all viewership in scotland it ends, especially because I'm preaching. That's more of an irish thing you've been irish the whole time yeah, um but you are a scottish and I give you a bunch of coal.

Speaker 2:

This ends on a voicemail from I believe it was the girlfriend reading a prompt from the killer tricks um, but it means nothing, it means fucking nothing. She's just like oh, stay away, they're gonna get you. Uh, so video 65, video 65. He's like hey, I found this. Uh, it's an undated video. I found it and this is a video of a man with a burlap bag over his head just going.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I have one of those and it's just getting all wet and soggy around the mouth from his spittle and he's just like in the burlap bag. That's it All right.

Speaker 3:

So episode 66, this one's called my Sis. His sister calls him and she goes hey, just checking in to see how you're doing, how you coping with your dead girlfriend and shit.

Speaker 2:

That's the dead girl and then she says you know what.

Speaker 3:

Maybe you should fucking stop doing this. And that's it. She's like I don't want to be a part of it anymore. Fuck you, fuck your dead girlfriend. I don't give a shit, leave me out of it. Um, all right. So then the next video is called Trespass and he woke up to something strange. And then it cuts to a video of him closing his fucking medicine cabinet and it says help me. Written on it in like blood.

Speaker 2:

Oh God, that's a whole trope. Maybe red crayon, I'm not really sure. How did he not notice that when he first walked into the bathroom? You know, I don't know.

Speaker 4:

The same reason. You have noticed how many times we've written my penis is too hot.

Speaker 3:

Oh no, I notice every time, not all of them. You still have not found two of them. Literally, the whole thing is just him finding that and then going my house was locked, what the hell? And then he goes I'm not safe anymore. So episode 68 it's called my sis revisited. His sister calls and she's like why the fuck did you put me on YouTube? You little shit, I wish you never met me. This is a horrible credit for my IMBD. His sister calls and she's like why the fuck did you put me on YouTube, you little, you little shit, I will. I wish you never met me.

Speaker 2:

This is a horrible credit for my IMBD page. I want you to basically fuck you.

Speaker 3:

Someone broke into my house now and I just don't. Don't contact me ever again.

Speaker 4:

I wish you never met me In response to being angry about being put on YouTube. She is put on YouTube again. Oh yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3:

Just full blast fucking this. Chris is a piece of shit. Let's just, let's just get this out of the way. Chris sucks like hey, this guy's dangerous if you start posting about these girls, he's gonna kill him. Ah, fuck, well, they're dead now chris.

Speaker 5:

Every time he shows up in a video too, his performance is basically on par with that snippet of.

Speaker 3:

I think you should leave where tim robinson just goes, what, what, what even if it's hard like less animated than obvious yeah, it's, his acting is pretty good, mark walberg, and uh, was it the happening?

Speaker 4:

I will say his acting is way better than Whoever plays his sister.

Speaker 3:

Holy lord. Well, so here we go, episode 69. This one's called Lifeline Do Not Continue has uploaded a big long Story Thing and basically it's the uncle.

Speaker 4:

I don't know, I truly don't know. There might be more Mike.

Speaker 2:

He's like.

Speaker 1:

I'm not safe. He knows where I am. Real quick, I have to say this during this one.

Speaker 3:

Is that Uncle's house?

Speaker 2:

No, you've been to his house.

Speaker 3:

It doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 5:

I wish we had that video, because I also need to know how he leaves, what the resolution to.

Speaker 2:

That is oh.

Speaker 3:

God.

Speaker 5:

I think from just watching that video on the Nightmind video, the camera just falls to the ground and then there's no explanation.

Speaker 6:

Yes, that's exactly what I saw as well, but he had to have picked it up to upload the video to YouTube Exactly.

Speaker 4:

Why did you? Hit the fucking off button on the floor.

Speaker 3:

All right, so real quick let me get here here.

Speaker 4:

Look, look stupid thing, look at you, stupid fucking moron. You're scottish bitch, you dumb scottish asshole here this.

Speaker 3:

Where we're about to go is where the whole series lost me when I realized that this this is no longer. No, no, no. It I mean to be fair to be fair. I watched my parts and not your guys parts, so everything you guys are talking about is new to me. Uh, however, I did watch all of nightmind's videos, so I guess it's not really new to me it's not because most of what we talked about doesn't fucking matter.

Speaker 3:

Long story short uh in the trigger warning. Uh, this the on a live hotline happens here. Yes, um. So basically our main character calls the suicide hotline yeah, all right, this is. And without watching any more videos I go did this motherfucker really just call this hotline for content and talk to an actual like person city bank take them away from like the possibility of them actually helping someone yeah.

Speaker 3:

So I was like I was pissed, like my notes. I'm like yo, this is sort of fucked up. Like I, this is distasteful as fuck. This whole video is pointless as fuck. I hated all of it, this 14 minute video. My opinion didn't change it's garbage, it's fucking stupid. The whole thing is to just introduce a character named lilith. Yep, fucking dumb as hell. I will say this like I I'm sorry, but like what's the connection there?

Speaker 4:

doug, as long as we're here, it's fucking a devil it's the devil, it's satan, it's well it's satan's daughter or whatever, and this of the children's drawbacks with adding Lilith just amounts to like.

Speaker 5:

It culminates in a 15 minute interview. That means nothing.

Speaker 3:

This man.

Speaker 5:

OK, hold on. Let me get to the other episode before I go off.

Speaker 3:

So, episode 70. This episode is called Emily and basically Do we finally figure this shit out, emily leaves him a message.

Speaker 3:

Does she die. And she says that she's not safe and they know where she is and that they will find her and they will ask, and and he's, she's basically asking him to do something about it. So she basically blames chris for everything that's happening. And then you hear someone or so help me, this is your fault. You basically hear her say I'll explain why. This is her, is his, this is his fault, actually in a minute, if you let me keep going. Um, so basically you, uh, you hear her say oh, my god, there's someone here. And then it's like that was at 149 am, and then it's like at 220 am and I got another call and it's just a child laughing on the phone and that's the whole video. So episode 71, it's called prevention. Good, uh, so he ends up taking I didn't mention this because it's irrelevant as shit but uh, lilith basically says hey, you want to meet me for coffee, like he said no right, uh, no.

Speaker 3:

He said yeah, let's do it, because the suicide hotline usually goes hey, let's meet for coffee. Um, this is this is where I realized that it's bullshit. I can't and he didn't actually call the suicide hotline, which makes me feel a little bit better about everything.

Speaker 3:

But I was like god damn it, what a piece of shit, like either way. Um. So he meets her for coffee. They have a small combo. Um. She says, like this is the highlights of it uh, it's a 14 fucking minute video and it is so super irrelevant to anything that's happening. Uh, but she's kind of drawn to him. You can kind of tell that she just wants to help him, like kind of save him on her own terms. Um, they talk about his family and his sister and his dad, but he like is very vague about everything. Like he doesn't say anything about what's going on. Um, and then she ends up giving him his actual or her actual phone number so that they can keep in contact. That's all it is. It's 14 minutes. Don't waste your time. Don't ever watch this video episode 72.

Speaker 3:

It's called my uncle's house. Basically it starts with Chris going through some weird fucking shed. You can't really tell what the shed is at first, but you can see like little blood splots everywhere, like it's not a lot, it's just a very minimal amount on like some things, um, and it looks like he's like searching for something, like he's frantically like kind of digging through drawers and moving things around and you kind of get the sense that he's in like he's like a fucking shed for a horse and you're like what the fuck am I looking at? So?

Speaker 3:

basically, you realize that he is in a shed that's literally just full of tools that's for cleaning and helping horses. Now he sees blood in this thing. The first thing, no, not even like literally, not even there's blood on things. But the first thing, that not even like literally, not even uh, there's blood on things. But the first thing that comes to mind is that he's showing all these tools which, if you're on tiktok or any sort of social media, you've seen the fucking like hoof cleaning, fucking videos oh yeah, and you know that those things bleed like a motherfucker.

Speaker 3:

So all I have to assume is that he's in a horse shed thinking that someone got murdered there. But really some horse just had their foot like fucking fixed in there and it sprayed blood somewhere and it's like the most minimal amount I've ever seen in my life, um. So, yeah, he starts filming in it, um, and then he finds this like lucky rabbit's foot hung up on the ceiling and he's like boo and then he goes inside the house and he's filming in the house and there's just a fucking dick ton of horse shit in the house.

Speaker 3:

Like I really have no idea what this video is about, other than the fact that he's just filming a shed in the house and then he's going back to his uncle's house, where he knows there's a serial killer instead he finds horse

Speaker 3:

poop like a normal fucking human but basically what he finds out is that no one's at the fucking uncle's house, for god knows why he went back there. So this is pointless. It's almost pointless to the point where he could have literally sent the cops there. But there's a open suitcase that wasn't fully packed and just left and I don't know what the meaning of it is. But then the very last bit of it is he lines up a shot from one of the videos from his dad's tape to him filming from the bathroom into a different room, and it sort of kind of maybe looks similar.

Speaker 2:

I think it's supposed to mean that they left in a hurry and they weren't able to pack all their belongings.

Speaker 3:

Right, but I know why they left and it's very terrible. So anyways the plot for the plot yeah, it's because they, that's why, that's why you read. So, anyways, the plot for the plot yeah, it's cause they admitted that's why?

Speaker 2:

that's why you read they admitted on camera that they kill people.

Speaker 4:

So they're like shit.

Speaker 2:

Our address is on this. We got to go to Guam, I would love, if it was that fleshed out Mike. Terrible Well continue, he's Well continue.

Speaker 3:

I will so the next video is called Normalcy and basically he's like yo, lilith is becoming a nice distraction from everything, you know, the suicide hotline lady and then she calls him and they have a very normal chat about nothing, and then not much else happens, and then he kind of seems like he wants to tell her about things, but he doesn't, and then, after your girlfriend got murdered right in front of you, oh yeah, like, absolutely like a couple days and then basically he's like it's the black or the white text on the black screen and he goes do not continue, seems to be preoccupied with something else.

Speaker 3:

So he's not very running away actually, no, he's not, I'll get there, I promise. So the next video tape 74 is called it's Not you. So he films himself calling Lilith on the phone and basically, yeah, he's just like his dad, fucking creep ass piece of shit anyway.

Speaker 3:

So basically he's like, hey, we shouldn't talk anymore. And he's like it's because of the stuff that I won't talk to you about. And she's like, wow, why would you do that to me? And he goes well, I think it was gone, but it isn't, and that you're not safe. And she's like, wow, what the fuck does that mean? He's like I don't think I can tell you and then they just have this big long roundabout fucking conversation about how do not continue is basically back in action.

Speaker 3:

But he never, he never, really fucking says that to her he's just like I don't know I'm hanging around some really bad guys I can't fucking talk to you anymore.

Speaker 2:

I think it is gone, but it has come back and it is going to stab you, so I can't talk to you anymore.

Speaker 4:

I can explain this whole.

Speaker 3:

Do not continue back and forth I mean I, I think we all can. It's just irrelevant at this point.

Speaker 4:

Almost there's a reason it's irrelevant and I know we're gonna.

Speaker 1:

I will get to an explanation of why I will I think I literally will tell you why. In this next one, I promise.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to explain it to you In episode 75 called the explanation. Oh, and this video starts off with Chris Showing up to Lilith's house. Apparently he just decided you know what I'm going to go and I'm going to tell her everything. So he goes over there and he brings. His whole dance. He brings the whole entirety of his dance tapes to her. In for a penny, in for a pound, and he just starts to explain the day she picked up the phone on that suicide you know what? Let's meet for coffee Sweet Shit.

Speaker 5:

She looks like completely indistinguishable from all the other blonde girls.

Speaker 3:

Oh my God, I know it's the worst Soable from all the other blonde girls. Oh my god, I know it's the worst. So he brings all the tapes to her. He starts explaining the whole situation.

Speaker 5:

Did you think this guy posted a casting ad for this and was like blonde girls, Blonde girls.

Speaker 4:

Blonde girls' eyes need to be only between one and two inches apart, even more than that. Fuck you, just get out of here.

Speaker 3:

Are you blonde? Uh, I don't know if you're blonde enough, um, all right. So basically, yeah, he basically explains to her and we don't get this information until right now, apparently but he says, yeah, my uncle and cousin have fled, uh, and they're basically in vegas looking for a girl, and that girl, obviously, is emily.

Speaker 2:

Well, vegas is the place to go if you're looking for the one that got away.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so we. This is when we learn where they are and what they did. And they basically fled because they're trying to get this girl to shut the fuck up even though obvious as shit at this point right I mean, if you could say it's obvious, but there's, they're doing a really bad job at making really anything coherent.

Speaker 3:

Essentially, um, because he brings up the fact that, like even Lilith in the show, or the show I said in the tapes or in the in the YouTube, is basically like well, have you gone to the police? And he's like, yeah, they don't believe me. And she's like you can leave now. Like yeah, it's cool. Like you told me not to hang out with you, yeah, you can go. Like we can finish this. Like yeah, you should probably head out of here, get scram, and yeah, that's where it ends. And also I don't know anything. Yeah, he, but he's like, yeah, I don't know, I, I don't understand why he just doesn't go to the police and like be, like hey, I have all of this proof. Here's the proof for you. Please have the proof.

Speaker 3:

Um you can look forward to the fact that none of this will be explained no, I know, I'm aware, and it's really funny though, because like once she's like, yeah, no, you, you can leave now. He then starts to just round about, start speculating on, like what they're, what they might be doing, what they're up to, and like why they're up to it, and like you're just like, bro, like just start killing yourself.

Speaker 2:

Like it's lots and getting hooked.

Speaker 3:

It seems like you want to just start killing yourself, brother, like just do it.

Speaker 4:

Let the intrusive thoughts win. Every piece of information Leading up to this point has said yep, this is it.

Speaker 3:

Alright so. Two more videos left. This next video actually has, I guess, a good chunk of Stuff in it, but so this one's Called just RIP. The latest do not continue Video shows Melissa K, someone which I don't think was explained very well in our podcast that we're doing at this very moment.

Speaker 5:

Oh yeah, there's a whole video where she's like hey, I'm going to be killing people now.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so she's killing someone in this, like the video that happens between 75 and 76. I'm going to add to this real quick.

Speaker 4:

It was not explicitly stated. It was very heavily alluded to in the second time that Chris and her meet up. One of the first videos that I talked about when she did the second one, the very end of that interview she gets super shady and super obviously suspicious.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, and it's funny. But then there's the whole do not continue video where they're like, oh hey, you're here now she's like, yep, I'm a staff people and then she like puts a mask on yeah, I'm a star stabbing yeah yeah.

Speaker 3:

So it's funny because he's like yeah, so melissa killed somebody I think it might be lilith or emily and he says it. Well, he doesn't say it, it's like the black and white text, but uh, he's like yeah, also.

Speaker 5:

Do not continue all these identical actors.

Speaker 3:

He's like I can't.

Speaker 3:

I can't even remember who I hired at this point it was cheap because they were sex tuplets uh, and he's like, oh yeah, do not continue, got a new phone, uh, and then he's it's very. He just says that and doesn't explain it at all and then he goes yeah, so hidden this last video. There's a link to a video that showed some really random images inside of my own house, and then there's a weird person in a mask and he's like I don't recognize any of these things, but then proceeds to show the clip of him filming his own medicine cabinet and he's like these are the clips I don't know about. And it's him filming his own medicine cabinet. I'm like what the fuck is happening? Um, so he's like there was hints of another phone number. Basically, he's like, yeah, here's that number and it's his sister's number, uh, and he says that they've taken everyone from him and that he's now truly alone. And the very last bit of text on the video says rest in peace, tracy Smith, who? That's his sister, tracy.

Speaker 4:

Smith, is that the sibling we've been talking about and trying to figure out who it is and where she went and what happened to her and why it's so stupid?

Speaker 3:

no, I'm pretty sure it's just the sister he's been talking to the whole time tape 77 this is the sound of wow.

Speaker 5:

I can't read. No, I'm pretty sure it's just the sister he's been talking to the whole time. Yeah, no, she's like been on tape like the entire time. Tape 77 this is the sound of wow.

Speaker 3:

I can't read the sound of inevitability. He gets a call and they're like yo, we gotta meet. And he goes, okay, and then she's like here's the time and the place, and he's like, but I think Emily's still alive, and then he goes. I've been looking for her over a year. I don't know if I can trust her or not, but it's very clearly that he's talking to Melissa on the phone. So I'm not really fucking sure why he's talking about Emily. I don't know. That's it. That's it. That's the last one. That's the last video I have. I'm done. I'm over it 77.

Speaker 5:

Okay, you deserve this. I'm gonna go through mine very quickly because, as we've alluded to multiple times, this goes nowhere. So 78 is a 15 minute conversation again with lily, where he goes and fucking sits down with her at a cafe or an ihop or wherever the fuck they've been meeting, and has a 15 minute conversation with her honestly, kind of looks like an ihop every day where he's like, hey, I'm gonna leave town, and she's like you just told me not to hang out with you and now you just asked me to come back here and just to tell me that you're leaving town.

Speaker 5:

What the fuck is this all about? And he's like and then she talks him into staying and that's like the entire, that's the entire thing. 79. He, so he meets with Emily. Where he goes to meet with Emily, who apparently is alive, who apparently is alive.

Speaker 4:

No confirmation up to now.

Speaker 5:

Maybe there's something else that explains this, but as far as I can tell there's no explanation of this. But he Goes to meet with Emily. He pulls a car into a dark alley and she's Not there and instead his Uncle's like murder mask is laying on the ground and he Picks it up and there's not there and instead his uncle's like murder mask is laying on the on the ground and he picks it up.

Speaker 4:

And there's also some matches from a porn store that's so his murder, his uncle's murder mask is the red one with, like the right with the spiky.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, spiky got a teeth can't forget a handful you can buy.

Speaker 5:

That was in uh you can buy the same mask on amazon. When, when he meets I have 24 when he meets up with.

Speaker 2:

Do Not Continue. For the first time he looks through the videos on the flip camera. The guy going that's the uncle.

Speaker 4:

God damn it, don Vito, don Vito. There's so many allusions to this and there's no Explanations for it.

Speaker 5:

No, there's an entire explanation in the video. We can't find the uncle lays it out Very thoroughly. Um and so episode explanation in the video.

Speaker 5:

We can't find, but uncle lays it out very thoroughly. So episode number 80 is a voicemail from Emily where she gets mad at him for not showing up alone, which doesn't make any sense, because he says in episode 79, where he's going to meet with Emily, that he was able to convince Lilith not to go with him. So he basically says he's alone, but then he gets an angry voicemail from Emily saying that he needs to meet her alone. So I don't really understand that part. I also don't understand what Emily has to do with his uncle's mask. Anyway, episode 81 and 82 I'm calling them episodes.

Speaker 5:

Now. Video 81 and 82 um, he actually finally meets up with emily twice back to back in these videos and there's nothing, nothing is said basically. Uh, she explains, like in a couple of sentences, that she was killing people, I guess for his uncle and his dad, and she escaped. So 83 is a video of Emily sitting down talking to the camera explaining that she has information about the killing and she just keeps saying she came back over and over again. 84 is Chrisris meeting with detective adams and he talks to detective adams about emily and this conversation really basically doesn't go anywhere why would he not just be like hey, it's my uncle yeah, arrest him.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that doesn't, that doesn't come up the end of this that doesn't come up. Is this how the end of this goes? That?

Speaker 5:

doesn't come up, he just tells Detective Adams that Emily is still alive. So then in 85, detective Adams interviews Emily and she explains that Chris's brother, scott Scott. Scott Sterling Is mostly the person that tortured Emily in the videos, but that she beat the shit out of Scott and bit his tongue out and then ran away.

Speaker 2:

His brother went on to manage a successful paper company in Scranton, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 5:

But then there is 10 more videos or 10 more minutes of Detective Adams just being like so you stabbed a bunch of people and she's like yep, I stabbed a bunch of people, and then he doesn't arrest her and he's just like oh, I'm sorry, this must be really hard for you is basically what he says.

Speaker 5:

I'd arrest you, but I feel bad. Number 86 is Chris getting a text on his sister's phone that he still has and it says to come outside. And he looks out the window and there's just this dude standing in the middle of the road with a mask on going. T-pose, and so he like, runs down the stairs to go find him, and he, he's gone, he's disappeared. He turns around, goes back up the stairs and there's a VHS tape sitting outside the door of Chris's apartment of course.

Speaker 5:

Why wouldn't there be? Number 87 is an interview with his mom, mike, it's 9-11 make a wish keep going, matt.

Speaker 5:

I wish you the third plane, number 87 is an interview with his mom where she basically, without saying it, admits that she knew that all of this was going on and she also says that her wedding with Chris's dad was a shotgun wedding because she was pregnant. And then she kind of just talks a little bit about like how weird it was that people would just like randomly show up at the house and then his dad would disappear for like Unknown amounts of time Two months.

Speaker 2:

Where you going honey Off to stab people. Okay, be home for dinner, be safe.

Speaker 5:

I will say that this interview with his mom is maybe like the best spot of acting in the entire series, like I would agree she's pretty good.

Speaker 2:

Some of these people have IMBD credits.

Speaker 4:

I will. I will say look up every video series that you watch on YouTube, on IMDB, if you want some nitty-gritty information about the actors, because they're almost all on there.

Speaker 2:

This one hasn't acted since, Wonder why Anyway sorry Matt.

Speaker 5:

So the grand finale and the very last video we ever get is number 88 yeah, and so this video is the vhs tape that, uh, do not continue.

Speaker 5:

I guess we're assuming the person in the street was do not continue. Leaves this vhs tape at chris's door and it's just a video of a train. He plays the video. It's just a video of a train, some shipping containers going by, and then a shot of his dad and then a shot of a dead blonde girl and that's the entire video and that's it, and that's the last thing we ever hear all right, guys.

Speaker 4:

Thanks for coming out.

Speaker 2:

Bye, we did it we did it, hey, boys we made it through, we got him okay so quick question ready, uh, real or fake on fake, fake, fake, fake. Okay, real pain in the ass real bad so I mean, yeah, that was uh my dad's tapes.

Speaker 4:

Uh, by golly um this is a staple in the online horror. I would not say staple at all really I'm not sure.

Speaker 2:

No, I don't know. I don't think it got have you seen the views?

Speaker 5:

yeah, no, my god it has like less than 10 000 views.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, there's not that many views on these, yeah whenever I have ever heard any kind of online horror series mentioned somewhere in that series is reference something from my dad's I think because it's niche, people think it's cool to reference it and that's fine it did nothing but rip off a bunch of other ARGs.

Speaker 3:

That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

We're two hours in. Let's do this real quick. Each of us give a real quick opinion on this guy. And what'd you think of it? We'll keep it short, and sweet, to the point, because, again, mike, you start us off.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think it started off pretty decent. Has some pretty fun ideas, especially for the time. I think it followed the popular hits we didn't know what worked for Marble Hornets and all of them. It did that the concept of your dad dying. Leave a bunch of VHS tapes you got to watch and creepy shit happens.

Speaker 4:

The story itself, though.

Speaker 2:

The story itself. I think, honestly, I couldn't tell you what the story was. I think it's too convoluted. You could have just been like my dad left me these weird tapes mysteries in the tapes to find in the tapes. Getting people involved outside of the tapes, I think, was a horrible idea. Um, all in all, uh, also showing chris and having him talk more bad idea. Getting actors involved bad idea. He should have just kept it silent through the entire fucking thing, I feel. And more puzzles for the online people to do for it anyway, this is too long overview, two, three out of ten would not recommend, unfortunately.

Speaker 2:

Sorry man who made my dad's tapes. I'm sure you've gone on to create bigger and better things and for what it was at the time cool.

Speaker 3:

But I don't think it's held up at all but it has not held up out of everything we've gone over in the three years of doing this.

Speaker 2:

out of everything we've we've talked about, I think this is the one that broke me the most. This is the one where I felt what the fuck are they doing? The most Like I know, matt's had this happen to him a lot, a lot. This is the one that made me think this makes no fucking sense.

Speaker 4:

The fact that you and I can both do trick ourselves into that is amazing, because we both love Depppard county.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and it's I was literally about to say I hate this more than deppard county the same complaints about deppard county exist around this.

Speaker 4:

Yet we love deppard county. We I fucking hate. I actually think I like deppard county.

Speaker 3:

Now, that's what this is done to me. You go ahead now.

Speaker 4:

You go. This the first, okay, part one that we did up through video 42 or so, actually. Let me look at the exact video.

Speaker 2:

It was the meme of that the painting of the horse, and it's really detailed, and then at the end of it it's like a child's drawing. 43 and 44.

Speaker 4:

Yes, exactly 43 and 44. Yes, exactly 43 and 44. Watch the entirety of the first half. Get to the point where you find out that my dad's tapes, the poster Chris, is finding more about his sister. Watch the interview With his sister and then end it Right there. That's what I think should have happened. You find out the whole thing has been orchestrated with the sister and then end it right there. That's what I think should have happened. You find out the whole thing has been orchestrated by the sister. She was in on it. That should have been the big reveal, but they wanted more from it, and that's fine.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, they killed her off instead.

Speaker 4:

They killed her and then they went a weird-ass direction with a lot of this shit and none of it made sense after that. Up until the fucking first half of this, it made sense to me and it made sense to me to be like a drop off, like, oh, chris died. After that shit happened, I'm like, well, there's no way out, you just have to make a terrible energy.

Speaker 3:

Doug, what do you think? No, no, no, matt, you go it was bad.

Speaker 5:

I don't think this is my least favorite thing that we've ever watched. The only reason that this isn't my least favorite thing we've ever watched is because it is at least attempting to do something fairly original. This predates like analog horror in the way that we know it. Now that's so fair. So I think. So I think there's a little bit of value in going back and watching this and being like oh, this is old YouTube.

Speaker 4:

This is old YouTube.

Speaker 5:

Maybe there's a little bit of nostalgia. Don't watch all eight hours of it. Do not, I don't even know that I would really recommend watching the first half of this.

Speaker 4:

If you're real bored, yeah, I would watch like a night or listen to a podcast, like us on it instead yeah, listen to us talk about it, listen to deludy talk about it.

Speaker 5:

It's an interesting concept, maybe executed really really poorly. Yeah, yes, I agree. I agree, it's interesting it's.

Speaker 2:

It's a fun take on serial killers in, like the past and actual american history, but it doesn't also, I'm gonna change my score from a three out of ten to a four out of ten only because of the phone call we had with the lady last episode she she gave it an extra point of redemption.

Speaker 4:

Oh hell, yeah, that was my favorite part about this whole thing. That's very was the accidental phone call?

Speaker 5:

yeah, I think that's pretty solid. I think the biggest thing that happened here is it becomes apparent that he didn't actually plan out the entire plot. Yeah, oh yeah. I think he maybe planned out the first half of it and then was like where do I go now? And it just fell apart. I think if maybe he had planned the plot better and then cut out about 75% of the content and bridged the gaps with some puzzles instead, it would be good oh hell.

Speaker 4:

Yes, it'd be so much, it'd be loosely connected, but it would be connected. Yeah it. You could make your own inferences, like, yes, there's so many things that could be done here, but again, I don't know, maybe, maybe this was a learning project, we have no idea. Yeah, there's no more.

Speaker 3:

Doug. So my whole thing is that it feel it, feel. It felt very Like they were trying to. So, a, it felt like they didn't know what they were doing and, b, it felt like they were trying to hold your hand while they didn't understand what they were doing.

Speaker 2:

I found a jigsaw, I solved it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so there was plenty of videos where he goes. Hey, DNC didn't like they posted this thing.

Speaker 3:

It led to this, it was. It led. That led to this and this led to that. And here's a link and the link led to this, and here's a link and the link led to this. And here's that, that puzzle. And here's the thing. And basically, just, he just explained everything that happened throughout the whole series and sure, fine, great, whatever. But like I think the main character and or the creator of this basically left the, the field of play, out of the question for people, and I think that's what people want out of these. They want to be able to solve the, the equation themselves, they want to be able to do the thing themselves, and I don't know, actually, the actual upload time in between things, but like it doesn't seem like he let them do that no, so like no.

Speaker 3:

It was literally from what I've seen and I like a couple days between I jotted down almost every video time and I think I have them in mind too, but it was like two days max, three days max and you know a lot of time, and you know the internet needs more time than that. They need to do that, their their thing and whatever. But I, I, just I. I don't want to say this is the thing that I hated the most that we've done by any means like no um I don't actually know I'd have to really think about that.

Speaker 3:

But, um, it was not done well and I I really hate saying that because a I'm not a creator, I don't, I don't do things like this. I don't make stuff like this, and that's not, that's not my forte, it's not what I do I. I talk about things that people make that's what I do.

Speaker 2:

You have difficult to be a creator correct.

Speaker 3:

So, like I think you know, maybe, maybe this person wanted to do something very, very, you know, groundbreaking 12 years ago, but they didn't know quite how to do that. They didn't have the right actors, though, because there's a lot of effort put into this oh yeah, he had actors he paid people probably like I have seen some shittier a, or I will say not args, but I've seen shittier analog horrors than this for sure, only in the fact that, like they're shorter and had less content less complicated this.

Speaker 3:

This man spent a bunch of his hard earned time filming like three years of his life doing a bunch of shit, for maybe something that didn't quite pay off, and that's fine and that's. You know, not everyone's gonna have an, a plus project that comes out. You know what I'm saying? Like I, I can't sit here and be like, oh, I'm gonna make something better than that no, he did what he did. They did what they did. I don't know who the fuck it is this.

Speaker 4:

this remind me of, like the Saw movies. If you watch them all and you don't pay attention to the garbage bullshit that is included with most of them, the story behind them is actually really fucking good.

Speaker 3:

I like a lot of the Saw movies to be fair, I'm a sucker because I'm.

Speaker 4:

I like that's one of my guilty pleasure series like all the way through 10, like I fucking love them, and it's simply because the story is complicated as shit. This is the opposite of that. Yeah, I don't know, they tried to make it make simple things complicated, and it just to me anyway, it just, it didn't work it.

Speaker 3:

It is unfortunate and it I think that maybe if this was made now, um, hopefully the, the, the person would have done better and saw as bad.

Speaker 2:

I don't think james wan has made a really good movie ever we'll talk about that in 20 minutes, that's fine that's not for this right now to be talked about, but, um, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3:

I I feel bad because I I really wanted to like this. Like you know, the first 40 fucking videos I was like 43 were great, like I, I I wouldn't even say that that's, that's, that's that's generous um I was, I just really wanted to like it the big.

Speaker 5:

The big problem too was there was no real mystery like the the reveal of his uncle being involved and his cousin and I guess his sister sort of, but like all these things were very, very obvious it's stupid, yeah it was that was the conclusion you would come to if you thought about this in any capacity to be fair if I was treating the audience I came to pass

Speaker 5:

after the first interview with Uncle Don I was like uh audience. It was all the news I came to after the first interview with Uncle. Don yeah. I was like uh, okay.

Speaker 1:

You figured, you figured it out. His dad killed a bunch of people filmed it and his uncle was in on it.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it's just details at this point.

Speaker 3:

You know what? I think we've hit the mark of where. I think everyone knows how we're feeling about it. Mike, take us out of here, you know where you can go.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 2:

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Speaker 3:

Can you draw me a picture, Mel?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, can you draw me a picture, mel? It's the pink one. What about a drawing, mel? Can you get us a drawing? There you go. If you want to reach us, you can send us a text or a phone call to our Google phone number. If you send us a text, we'll respond to it. If you send us a phone call, we will uh play if you send us a voicemail, we'll play it.

Speaker 4:

At the end.

Speaker 2:

We have one of those yeah, if you send us a voicemail, we'll play it at the end of the episode. Um, our google phone number is 630-909-93. You gotta, let me say it once, man people won't know if you don't 630-909-9366 um, or you can reach us at our gmail for inquiries. That's uh deletepod at gmail dot com.

Speaker 3:

Inquiries what are you fucking?

Speaker 4:

the best part about this is like no one can hear this except no, no, they won't oh, yep. I turned it down. Discord can hear us um anyway uh, if you find a box full of tapes that your dad left you.

Speaker 2:

Uh, go ahead and just turn those right into the police, because your dad your dad is never gonna leave you a box full of tapes, and it's going to be a good thing.

Speaker 4:

Unless he and you and his father are all the Zodiac killers.

Speaker 2:

It's never going to be a good thing. Just turn them into the police immediately. Jason, what do you got to say to people?

Speaker 4:

Stay fucking paranoid.

Speaker 2:

I mean obviously Also don't call any of the phone numbers we've mentioned ever.

Speaker 1:

We Don't call any of the phone numbers we've mentioned ever. We've already confirmed one is just a sweet lady.

Speaker 2:

Never call it Unless you want life insurance, don't call it. Hopefully we've done our due diligence and you live in New Hampshire.

Speaker 3:

We'll give you Jason's number to call, it's fine.

Speaker 5:

Anyway, Jason, say your piece. State changes every time.

Speaker 4:

Stay paranoid. Everybody wish me luck. I'm currently trying to buy a fucking new house. I am tired, doug. What do you got for?

Speaker 3:

me slapping beans against your beans. This was great, jk, lol, moo.

Speaker 5:

I'm tired of this like really tired.

Speaker 3:

Thank god we're not doing a part 3 alright, everybody have a wonderful night.

Speaker 2:

We love you and I hope you enjoy this Long ass. Goodbye.

Speaker 4:

Goodbye, cheers, goodbye.

Speaker 3:

Drink milk.

Speaker 7:

Hello, my name is Holy fucking shit, mike, you're not fucking real. Akaa, izzy, aka, izzy the Liz, I'm on vacation right now. I left a voicemail. It was on the most recent episode. Honestly, that made me crack up, dude, because I was chilling at work. Dude, because I was chilling at work, I hope there's a dildo it, because I don't know if the number I repeated on the previous voice mail was correct. I have to voice message on the episode. I believe it was my dad's tapes, part one. I left the voice message.

Speaker 7:

I'm showing that work, dude, I'm listening to the looty, as I usually do at work, and this voice note comes on and I'm clueless and I hear it start talking and I'm like, is that fucking me? That was shit, face bro. I don't fucking remember anyway. Um, what was I saying? Oh yeah, that shit cracks me up. That shit made me laugh like a motherfucker. Anyways, I'm on vacation, diluting, and I'm drunk again and I'm thinking about the diluting points. So here's my little drunk ass ARG, mini, mini, arg. Voicemail, arg. Um.

Speaker 7:

Decipher this code? Let me just tell you 49 e2, 80, 99, 60, 20, 73, 6f, 20, 66, 75, 63, 6b, 69, 6e, 67, 20, 64, 72, 75, 6e, 6b, 2e, 20, 53, 68, 6e, 6b, 2e, 20, 53, 68, 6f, 75, 74, 20, 6f, 75, 74, 20, 4d, 69, 6b, 65, 20, 6c, 6f, 6cf6c2e20. I'll give you a hint, jason, because I know you like to crack the codes Hexadecimal. I don't know shit about code cracking, but it's a hexadecimal because I hear you guys talk about hexadecimal every time you have to crack a code, every time you do an energy. So that is x decimal. Decipher it, don't look under the internet.

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