DLUTI 170 - The "Forgotten Languages" Rabbit Hole

Mike always finds the absolute weirdest s**t online. And what's worse, is he makes us deal with it! AND THEN WE MAKE YOU DEAL WITH IT. So if you're angry about this episode, blame him; however, this site is actually pretty interesting. It's a nightmare to decode, and requires way too much brainpower for us. That won't stop us from acting like expert linguists and scholars (just.... please, don't think we are, I beg you.). 

Join Jason, Mike, and Matt (no Doug, he's currently pupating in his Florida-scented cocoon) as they attempt to make heads or tails of what seems to be, the beginnings of a universal language codex. Sorry about all the quantum mechanics...

Transcript

Speaker 3 0:17

Don't look under the internet. Okay, now are we? Are we? Are we ready to start, though? Where's another false alarm?

Speaker 1 0:45

we're as ready to start as we'll ever be. Hello everyone, we're ready, welcome.

Speaker 3 0:51

Hold on, hold on, wait. Hold on, wait. Hold on, all right, okay. Okay, all right, hold on okay, hello everyone.

Speaker 1 1:02

Welcome to hold on hold on welcome to wait, wait wait, wait, wait welcome to hold on, all right, the podcast where we uh, we hold on. We're gonna drive this joke into the ground before we start um yeah, welcome to look under the internet. What we do, mike um, it's your boys, uh at, don't debt diluty the internet, folks, what we do, mike, it's your boys at Don't Debt Deluty the internet. Horror comedy special broadcast hour Special internet horror comedy.

Speaker 2 1:31

Yeah, this is a several minute special.

Speaker 1 1:35

Starring yours truly, Jason Hello.

Speaker 3 1:39

Moot, give me a second Hold on, okay, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1 1:45

Hold on, okay, hold on hold on, hold on, okay, okay, uh. And then there's me, I'm here too. It's mike, it's mike. Um, one thing you'll probably notice doug's not here and we'll go over why? In today's issue of deluty housekeeping, housekeeping.

Speaker 3 2:03

Housekeeping special.

Speaker 1 2:04

Housekeeping, special All housekeeping, all the time Housekeeping.

Speaker 3 2:12

We should start a 24-hour Twitch channel where we just cut the housekeeping out of every single one of our episodes and just play it in a 24-hour loop.

Speaker 1 2:21

I wonder how much there is, though. Do you think we have a full?

Speaker 3 2:27

There's at least five minutes per episode.

Speaker 1 2:29

Do you think we have a full 24 hours worth?

Speaker 3 2:32

How many episodes? We're at like 170-ish.

Speaker 1 2:36

Oh God, my heart just like, let's say, some of them are five minutes, some of them are ten minutes.

Speaker 3 2:41

We'll call it seven minutes.

Speaker 1 2:43

So yeah, yeah, seven times 170 is 1190 minutes, so that's 19.8 hours oh, we're right there we can probably pad it with something enough to get it there or we can just do what we're doing now and just elongate more of them as they just describe the metrics we're looking up and why we're doing it.

Speaker 2 3:04

Yeah, let's make this housekeeping last 20 minutes and we'll just do that forever. Housekeeping the episode.

Speaker 1 3:11

Yeah, no, we're in housekeeping. So there's a couple of things we want to go over. First and foremost, I want to give a shout out to one person who I'm pretty sure it's the same person over and over.

Speaker 3 3:26

Over on Patreon new patron Nicole.

Speaker 1 3:26

Hey, dude, welcome either for the first time, the second time, the third time or the fifth I've seen that name so many times, it's hard to say yeah there's been so many Nicoles.

Speaker 3 3:33

Is this Bar-Nicole?

Speaker 1 3:34

Is this Bar-Nicole? Is this First-Nicole? Whoever?

Speaker 3 3:37

we told to change their name to Bar-Nicole. Needs to unsubscribe. Change their name.

Speaker 1 3:42

Maybe this is them and they did it so we can keep it straight.

Speaker 2 3:44

Well, it didn't follow directions, Mike.

Speaker 3 3:46

That's true.

Speaker 1 3:47

You have to redo it again. So thank you Nicole, or Bar Nicole, or first Nicole Prime.

Speaker 3 3:54

Or to some different Nicole.

Speaker 1 3:55

Or, yeah, new Nicole, whoever you are, thank you for the sub. That concludes that portion of housekeeping. The other portion is why Doug's not here. This is going to be a weird couple months. Everybody. I want you to know that fine and dandy. Um, first and foremost, uh, doug left, he divorced Jason and myself and he went to Florida like a fucking loser. Uh, he, yeah, he moved, he's in a Florida-shaped cocoon.

Speaker 1 4:22

Yeah, doug moved Um, the the diluty boy himself. He moved from Illinois to Florida and you know, hopefully he has a fun time down there. He'll be back. He's just going on a break as he gets settled in his home, so you're probably not going to see too much of Doug coming up here soon. I don't even know if he has internet yet. He just got it today.

Speaker 3 4:41

Like, as I was working with him, he was like, oh, the guy's here. He was actually, like you know, really moving up in Florida.

Speaker 1 4:48

Internet. Um, he was like, he was on the phone with me while the internet guy was walking around and he's like oh, like what's wrong? He's like oh, just a box of sex toys. It's out, and the dude had to have seen him. He's like I'm embarrassed.

Speaker 3 5:03

Now I'm gonna, I've been there. Yeah, haven't we all? We've all been there. I had stuff laying around in my bedroom one time and the air conditioning guy was like hey, where's your garage? I just like walked right into the bedroom. I was like, well, it's not there, it's not in here, no, my sex swing.

Speaker 2 5:18

But while we're here, would you like uh to?

Speaker 1 5:22

indulge. You're just in a silk kimono while we're here. And then, jason, I know you recently. That's not the garage.

Speaker 3 5:32

You can see my garage.

Speaker 1 5:34

Jason also recently purchased a home. Hell yeah, and it's in.

Speaker 2 5:40

I'll be in for Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3 5:42

I think yeah, so I thought you were building a house.

Speaker 2 5:45

I am make that, I'm not that's why he's dressed like a lumberjack yeah, I just got off, got back from the site, gotcha, you know it's going well.

Speaker 3 5:53

I got a wall you're gonna build a whole house between now and thanksgiving oh it's, it's mostly built, it's just missing floors at this point okay, okay, yeah, but Jason's going to be out for a bit too. I'm serious Sears catalog shit.

Speaker 1 6:07

So it's going to be an interesting time for the Deluty Boys. It's going to be a lot of some on, some off, a lot of, I would say, probably weirder episodes, some stuff that's just a bit more manageable on our side. So just be on the lookout. This next month of November and some of December is going to be kind of kooky.

Speaker 2 6:28

It's kind of crying. Some new shit Maybe, yeah, so I don't know yeah.

Speaker 3 6:33

We'll see what happens. Yeah, we're going to fuck around. Chase is just signing us up for stuff and then leaving.

Speaker 2 6:38

Oh yeah, I don't have to cash this check.

Speaker 1 6:46

I'm this check, I'm fucking bouncing. After next week I can promise whatever I want to uh.

Speaker 2 6:48

Mike and matt are gonna stream for 24 hours uh next week bye guys. Oh yeah, they're quitting their jobs. They'll. They'll be here 24 7 for whatever the fuck you need. Yeah, just housekeeping, just housekeeping, just housekeeping. All the time, yep so, yeah, it's uh.

Speaker 1 7:00

It's gonna be uh an interesting couple months. So it's gonna be fun. We going to see how it goes. And if you're in Florida, if you see Doug, go ahead and kick him in the nads for me and tell him Mike sent me.

Speaker 2 7:13

He'll know what it means. He'll know what it is and he'll know why.

Speaker 1 7:17

And that concludes housekeeping.

Speaker 2 7:19

Matt, you were like on the fucking nose for how long housekeeping takes, right Like six minutes and 53 seconds.

Speaker 3 7:26

I've been around the block a few times.

Speaker 1 7:28

My boy's got the tism for days.

Speaker 2 7:32

The time tism.

Speaker 1 7:34

Yeah, Dude. So our topic today is a very unique one. Our topic today. It basically should be in a whole different language. It's so convoluted. And funny enough it do be.

Speaker 2 7:49

I see what you did there. It's not, it's in, like all of them yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 7:54

It's like if you mashed the globe, all the language, all of the other language. We're talking about a topic that I haven't seen many people cover and I don't want to cover, but hey, here we are, actually.

Speaker 3 8:10

Mike was like, hey, let's do this, it'll be easy. And then I opened the website and was like, oh my God. So full transparency with this website, not qualified for this Full transparency with this website.

Speaker 1 8:21

We're talking about ForgottenLanguagesorg.

Speaker 3 8:24

ForgottenLanguagesorg, yeah, forgottenlanguagesorg. Task Force Magmar 9, episode 2.

Speaker 1 8:30

I could not access the website. Every time I tried going on it, it would auto-direct me to that one where it doubles up and it was asking me to be invited through Google. So I'm going off, purely based off of archival images of the site and everything I thought you were about to say.

Speaker 3 8:49

I'm going just off of a Google login page.

Speaker 2 8:50

I'm off the fucking cost row. Just look at the login page. It says here you need a certain SSL certificate. It says I have network connectivity issues.

Speaker 1 8:59

I don't know what that means. You should go to the doctor right now. Yeah, so this is is gonna be a fun one. It's, it's we're. We're not going, we're not deep diving this shit. For one, I highly recommend going to check this thing out. It's very fascinating, but there is so much, goddamn I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna say information, I'm gonna say content, because I don't know half the shit could count to technically data.

Speaker 3 9:22

Data Data thank you, I don't know if this can technically be called information.

Speaker 1 9:27

I'm sure to somebody it's information yeah yeah, but yeah, forgottenlanguagesorg it's like a library of the weirdest batshit, crazy stuff, and I think what we're going to do today is we just picked out a couple of the articles that you can find on here and we're going to kind of go over those. We just picked out a couple of the articles that you can find on here and we're going to kind of go over those. First and foremost, jason, you weren't supposed to be the man that—.

Speaker 1 9:54

You weren't supposed to be the one captaining this ship, but by golly did you become the man captaining this ship.

Speaker 2 9:59

Dude, I started reading through some of this stuff and I got sucked into the rabbit hole. I got sucked so hard Sucked. Can you give a TLDR? What?

Speaker 1 10:10

the fuck this is.

Speaker 2 10:11

Yeah, absolutely so. Like I said, this was super interesting to me. This is the kind of shit that just occupies my brain. The first thing you're going to notice when you go to this website is the like, the, the inability to understand anything on it. That'll be the first thing you notice. Um, it's, it's written in. It's a combination of what seems to be english. Um, there are traces of other languages throughout. It almost looks like a mash-up of languages.

Speaker 1 10:42

Looks like kanji at first glance it almost looks like a mashup of languages. It looks like kanji at first glance. Like it looks like some sort of Asian. Well, there are some that are.

Speaker 3 10:49

It looks like you're playing a stalker game and you're trying to read the road signs and then you accidentally drop acid.

Speaker 2 11:03

Yep, yep, that last part is key For sure.

Speaker 1 11:05

That's the only way you can get through this is if you drop acid. Yep, yep. That last part is key, for sure. That's the only way you can get through. This is if you drop acid.

Speaker 2 11:09

It opens your calcified gland, your calcified pineal gland. Yeah, my penile gland, your penile glands.

Speaker 1 11:18

My penile, gland my penile gland.

Speaker 2 11:20

So weird, mashed up languages aside, this is it seems to be an index of articles, and all of them seem to touch on different topics that all surround the same overarching themes. The things you're gonna you're gonna find mentions of ufos. You're gonna find the mentions of aliens. You're gonna find mentions of quantum physics. You're gonna find mentions of block spheres, as dna is storage, I mean. You're gonna find equations, equations fucking galore, um, but the weirdest part is is that they are they're in like several different broken ass languages, like you can see traces between, uh, different languages mashed together within one paragraph, and this is something that I've found, at least through studying this. It's called CoLang, and CoLang is just what it sounds like it's a collaborative language in which you are taking principal parts of one language and another language and another language and you're mashing them together to present an end result that actually fucking makes sense. Is it hard to do?

Speaker 1 12:29

yes, incredibly fucking hard to do, but this website has managed to do it over and over again since the earliest traces found in 2008, but for all intents and purposes, we'll say 2009, because that's what's on the site I like 2008 because that gives me the the thought that the housing market crashed so hard that a bunch of people got together to make a conspiracy style website because they didn't have anything else to do with their time and heartbreaks came out, and then this is what like oh, this is better this is much better.

Speaker 3 13:01

Let's this. This is where it all started for Kanye. It was all downhill for me. Yeah, I think the secret to what happened to Kanye is in here somewhere. We just have to.

Speaker 2 13:11

I'm sure this is just the best minds, all talking shit about each other. That's what it ends up being. No, nothing like that. Other than that, I don't really know what else to say about it. It's a collection of fucking articles written in several languages at once, and these articles are like professionally written, it seems.

Speaker 2 13:34

Yeah, the vocabulary, the language involved, the writing, it's all very, very scientific. It's almost like a scientific journal article and they all have to do with very, very high level science topics, physics topics like quantum mechanics pseudoscience there's some about, like advanced plasma, plasma based weaponry that the US military has had since, like the 50s, there's one the other thing that is weird about this, considering the fact that, like seemingly the entire point of this is that it's written in some fucky language.

Speaker 3 14:14

There's charts, there's a lot of charts, so many yeah, I think a pirate wrote this is this how the?

Speaker 1 14:23

pirates came into play too everything may be pieced back to this, yeah it's.

Speaker 2 14:30

It's just, it's this huge, huge index of just a big index of topics and, like to me, they're super interesting, but holy fuck, are they in the goddamn weeds? Um, do you guys want to go over a couple of these articles? And kind of I would love to do that, certainly, see what they say. Um, okay, I'll start it off. I've got a, an article I read. It's titled and this you can find this on on um, forgotten languagesorg, or the snapshots of them on the web archiver. It's called metaconsciousness and block spheres. Now, that's a. I mean I would read this, but I also have no idea what a block sphere was, or at least I didn't until yesterday.

Speaker 1 15:13

You can't have a block and a sphere.

Speaker 2 15:15

A block is I know where well that's why they named it like this.

Speaker 3 15:19

All I can think of is that video of that girl and she's like like the cube goes in the square and she's like freaking out, having a mental breakdown about it.

Speaker 2 15:32

Yeah, um, so a couple things, and just in that title, metaconsciousness. Go ahead and define that real quick. Um, this metaconsciousness it refers to like an elevated or more abstract form of consciousness, and in this specific article it kind of refers to one that is more aware of itself and can manipulate its own states, and what that means is it can change your way of thinking based on what you're seeing. It goes way more in the weeds than that, so I'm not really going to go over more than that. Um, so that's meta meta consciousness. Now, a block sphere, it's a, it's a visual representation of the state of the state space inside a qubit. In quantum mechanics. A qubit is a quantum mechanical system. That it's think quantum entanglement between two things, if you do you guys know what quantum entanglement means, or at least what it refers to?

Speaker 1 16:30

no, yeah, of course I do, but I think matt's lying. Can you say it out loud?

Speaker 3 16:36

it's. It's when matter is like joined together in a way that manipulating one part of it also has an effect on the other part of it, regardless of how far apart they are.

Speaker 2 16:50

Yes, specifically observing the two different. So we recently were able to quantumly entangle data and send it to a satellite where it existed, both on the satellite and here on Earth, and the only time we could really guarantee that is when you observe it. That's how quantum mechanics works when you observe certain thing, it behaves one way. When you don't observe it, it behaves another way, and that's why it can exist in two places at the same time, simply because you're only observing it in one place versus the other.

Speaker 3 17:24

That's how a qubit in a quantum computer works Correct. The state of quantum matter is whether it's on or off. But the issue with quantum mechanics is that you don't know what state something is in until you observe it. But the act of observing the state of quantum matter changes the state that it's in, obviously.

Speaker 2 17:45

And that's why light waves behave like particles when you're not looking at them, but they behave like waves when you are. I'm glad we're all strange, I'm glad we're all on the same page.

Speaker 1 17:52

Thank you for letting me know that you guys understood as much as I did so um, but yeah.

Speaker 2 18:00

So matt mentioned the qubit and the quantum system. The black sphere is simply a visual representation of that. What about the blockchain? I know that one, the Blocksphere, was actually minted to the blockchain. What was it called? I can touch it.

Speaker 1 18:14

What was it called the Q? What? The Q, the qubit? Okay, what about Qbert the Q-anon? What's? Qbert doing in this Qbert is a cubit. Okay, that makes sense to me Now.

Speaker 2 18:24

I get it. That's all you have to say, man.

Speaker 3 18:29

I've spawned my own conspiracy theory about what Hubert is. We've probably said Q so much that this video is absolutely getting demonetized, d-fucking-monetized.

Speaker 1 18:35

Hubert is the cubit and Frogger is the data. When observed, is in two places at once. When it's not being observed, it's at the beginning. When it's not being observed, it's at the beginning, and when it's being observed, it's at the end with the flies that you're catching.

Speaker 2 18:48

I get it now.

Speaker 3 18:49

That's, whatever way you need to describe it to yourself. All I know is you're a QT. Dude, stop, we're on air Dude, bro, bro, stop we're on air God damn.

Speaker 2 18:59

God damn.

Speaker 3 19:06

So now, damn um. So now that we kind of know what those are, I'm gonna give a very brief.

Speaker 2 19:09

I want to get quantum entangled. We're gonna quantum entangle with each other real quick um horny boys podcast horny boys, or aren't?

Speaker 1 19:17

we is what it's called um it's like a shitty nerds, like valentine's day card. I want to get quantum entangled with you.

Speaker 3 19:24

Are you a cubit? I want to observe your quantum entanglement. You're a?

Speaker 2 19:29

cubit. Oh fuck, my milkshake brings all the neutrinos to the yard.

Speaker 3 19:37

I feel, like we're just writing an episode of Big Bang Theory.

Speaker 2 19:41

Oh my God, I think we are Okay. So now that we know what those two things are, moving right along. I'm going to do a very brief overview of what this article actually says and why it deals with these things. So it essentially suggests that the only reason we perceive the world around us and we collectively perceive it the same way is simply because we have all attuned each other to a certain a certain state a certain state which refers to a quantum system.

Speaker 2 20:17

Again, if we're looking one thing, if we're not looking another. Apparently, what we can do is if we get a handle on it, we can harness the power of this consciousness, switch and change our view of reality at will. The only problem is we don't know what we're going to see when we turn it off. Do you need to collect?

Speaker 1 20:39

that makes sense. Do you need to collect your crystals and warm?

Speaker 2 20:42

them up or something too. The J-O crystals. Get into a room with your bros and charge them on up the J-O crystals Different crystals. J-o crystals. We should do a video that equate the J-O crystals to the chaos crystals Chaos crystals.

Speaker 3 21:02

I was thinking the type of crystals where you dye your hair blue and stop wearing deodorant. Oh, perfect um.

Speaker 1 21:11

You got shadow, the hedgehog, in the brain.

Speaker 2 21:12

He's got smelly hippie on the brain smelly hippie on the brain, um just to sum the rest of this up, there's a direct quote taken from the actual article.

Speaker 2 21:23

It says Consciousness can be viewed as another state of matter, but unlike other states of matter, its properties are not physical properties but instead properties that depend on an interpretation of the arrangement of the matter as information. So essentially what it says is the arrangement of the matter in front of your fucking face is important, because otherwise you would translate it differently depending on your surroundings. So that's it. That's kind of what this whole thing goes over. It's very in the weeds. But again, the weird part about this is it's in like seven languages and two of them don't seem to exist, and so that's the kind of the, the, the gist of this one article. It was written in a dead, an ancient dead language.

Speaker 1 22:05

Bonjour, crazy gibberish crazy gibberish um fuck. After that, I just I needed yeah, there's a lot of big words that you just said, and I didn't know that you could say that many big word like, like I said, I thought quantum mechanics is is so interesting to me.

Speaker 2 22:27

It's just I don't have anyone to talk about it with because nobody fucking cares to be blunt about it. And I get it, it's. It's really in the weeds, but so I had a blast coming through a lot of this stuff and if it were up to me I would have read all of these articles. I'm just word vomited for four hours at you guys.

Speaker 1 22:45

Well, you didn't, and that's why we have Matt and me here to talk about the articles.

Speaker 3 22:50

Fuck the French.

Speaker 2 22:53

There's anything you take away from today's episode, it's absolutely fuck the French. All right, my next one.

Speaker 1 23:00

This is my last one I'm going to talk about this one's titled Intragalactic Communications Using 6.3 pev neutrinos I'm glad you took this one because I looked at it and I was like, oh, this looks fun, and I noped the fuck out of it because, this one's great, but again it's.

Speaker 2 23:18

It's really hard to understand. Like it's, it's, so it's. You have to know what like a pedivolt is when it relates to electrons I appreciate the effort you put into this, because I didn't go that far.

Speaker 3 23:29

I'm gonna give you, I'm gonna give you cliff notes, dude I.

Speaker 1 23:33

I saw this shit and I'm like oh if we're doing this, I have to give like jason's getting the nitty-gritty like in the pedivolt and I'm gonna be like, uh, they, uh, they, like ghosts, I don't know ghosts are actually just plants and you just don't know about it yeah um, so this one, this whole article again, I'll be very brief about it.

Speaker 2 23:55

This whole article is about a uh, a new way to communicate between uh like planets, like super hyper large distances in space, and what it talks about is using something called a neutrino. If you don't know what a neutrino is, it really doesn't fucking matter. Other than then uh neutrinos interact with other matter at a very, very, very low rate, which means it's very good for relaying complete information over long distances without having any kind of degradation in the signal.

Speaker 1 24:25

Aren't they typically made from some sort of nuclear or radioactive?

Speaker 2 24:30

It's a radiation particle that you can't feel. It doesn't do anything to you as a person. It'll pass right through your body and it will have almost no loss, of no degradation.

Speaker 1 24:39

Tell that to Dr Bruce Banner, bro.

Speaker 2 24:43

You think he doesn't feel when he goes green. Get him on the show, get him on the horn, fucking call him up.

Speaker 1 24:49

Right now we're gonna talk to him okay, I'll get harrison ford on too, since he's red hulk oh, you're not wrong.

Speaker 2 24:57

Um, so this one? It talks about using neutrinos to encapsulate information and send it over very, very, very large distances, with the hopes of communicating with another intelligent civilization. Again, I found this one super fucking interesting, but again, you have to know what a peta-electron vault is. It's a unit of energy, and the energy itself is what the neutrino is, which is why it's able to pass through other matter without any kind of interference. Um, but it does go on to suggest that this is the standard of communication, um, for a post, uh, light speed civilizations, aka civilizations that have learned how to travel between the stars without killing their population in the process. It talks about all these different types of aliens, like the Gislians these different probes.

Speaker 3 25:52

Yeah, I'm not gonna. How do I get in contact with them?

Speaker 1 25:57

I'll quantum entangle your Gislian. I think it sends out a ping whenever you open up an incognito tab on chrome since I was like 14, since I knew what that was finally meet them and they're like yes, we know you the legend the legend is here we built this statue in your honor. It's you just just jerking it.

Speaker 2 26:37

Yeah, I mean, that's really all I have on this. This goes over a couple of different things like the Glashow resonance which is just a high radiation emittance of neutrinos, and it goes over how we can kind of use this for, um, talking to our, our own civilizations when we decide to colonize the stars as well as getting in touch with the rest of the galaxy. But that's all I got. I will stop shouting giant words at you guys.

Speaker 1 27:03

Um, it's our turn to shout giant words.

Speaker 2 27:06

It's time for you to shout it at me.

Speaker 1 27:09

I'm still laughing at Nisanaki.

Speaker 3 27:17

I'm pretty proud of that one, not going to lie.

Speaker 3 27:18

All right so my first article that I'm not going to go into as much detail on is pretty long, but it's called On Lyapunov beings, denibian probes and the introduction of non-terrestrial life to soul three. So, uh, there's a lot going on here, um, about different life forms, and basically each of the paragraphs that's on this page is talking about different strains of life and introducing them into basically an ecosystem they're not supposed to be in. There's also some stuff in here talking about Sol 3, which I'm pretty sure is Earth, um, yeah, 100, that's earth.

Speaker 3 28:08

Yeah, or yeah, earth is the third planet from the sun. Yep, so you find out that, uh, like, basically every single thing on earth is divulged or like is divergent from one singular organism. We all have one previous ancestor that we're all related to, but it turns out that that ancestor was introduced to earth by some sort of extraterrestrial being who figured out how to use these denibian probes, which are probes that they shove into planets to try to figure out what's growing in them, um, and so they took whatever our like mother organism is from some other planet, and then they cloned it over into earth, and that's where we all come.

Speaker 1 29:03

So we're an invasive species um, we didn't invade.

Speaker 3 29:08

Well, I don.

Speaker 2 29:09

I don't know, are you an?

Speaker 3 29:10

invasive species. If the species didn't even exist when you invaded, it was just like the blueprints for our species right. Right, because it's like if you take one species from one place and put it in a place it's not supposed to be in, it's an invasive species, but we didn't exist. Somebody just put the makings of us.

Speaker 2 29:32

We were just goo. And my understanding is there was no life on Earth before this.

Speaker 3 29:39

It was just a rock.

Speaker 1 29:41

It was just a barren ass rock.

Speaker 3 29:42

It was a good place to shoot our goo and see what happens.

Speaker 1 29:46

I guess that follows with the primordial ooze goo theory thing.

Speaker 3 29:51

Yeah, oh yeah, we came from the Benebian ooze.

Speaker 1 29:55

Yeah, yeah, we did it. Thanks Denebian. Benebian. Yeah, denebians. Yeah, thanks Denebians.

Speaker 2 30:02

Does it say what they look like? Deneb is the planet.

Speaker 3 30:05

No, there's a chart that shows you the periodic movement of the planets of the solar system, which generates a set of stable resonances which has something to do with how life forms and what path it takes.

Speaker 1 30:28

There's a lot of big words in here. Oh, so many. Yeah. Does that do anything for you, Mike? No, but I appreciate that you had all that information.

Speaker 3 30:34

The next one that I have is synthetic DNA as data storage beyond the 145 zettabyte limit, and if you don't know what a zettabyte is, a zettabyte is a thousand petabytes, which is a thousand terabytes, so that's a fuckton of data, but where do you think? Where do you think they're sticking this fuck ton of data?

Speaker 1 30:54

right up my ass, right in my wiener slot.

Speaker 3 30:57

Wiener slot kind of kind of they're encoding it in dna, so yeah, you see, you're not wrong this is actually a scientific article that I I'm assuming a good chunk of this is plagiarized from somewhere else.

Speaker 1 31:12

There is an article, it's gotta be there's an article that recently just came out how we made like a huge advancement in like um the amount of storage we can add to dna, or something like that. It was like yeah.

Speaker 3 31:24

Well, what I'm saying is like this is a real thing that we've been doing for quite a while now, yeah, and there's like actual scientific information in this article about how this works. So I assume that parts of this are just taken from other research and then some of it is translated into this craziness and then maybe back into what you actually get. That's readable here, but again into what you actually get. That's readable here, but again, basically, this article talks about encoding data into DNA. It talks about how the limit of DNA in a human being is about 145 zettabytes.

Speaker 3 32:11

But the other very important thing that you learned from this article is that extraterrestrial beings created us to just basically be living flash drives. We we are some greater beings, data storage medium and we were shot out. Yeah, yeah, basically we're, we're a universal intergalactic cloud. They took, they took us, they shoved information in all of our dna and then they shot us out across the universe and they were like this is how we're going to keep all of our data safe by uploading it to the universe and now you can keep your data safe by using today's sponsor so yourVPN, nordvpn.

Speaker 3 32:49

Yeah, there you go. So your only purpose as a living human being is to be somebody's goon stash, so congratulations, goon stash.

Speaker 1 33:03

You're some alien's preferred method of saving their Steam games, so congratulations.

Speaker 2 33:10

Oh yeah, you could be that too yeah somebody has the entire discography of nickelback saved on you, mike I'm okay with that.

Speaker 1 33:17

I hope I'm at least like. I hope I'm at least like a, like a solid, like ssd, like an official one and not some like floppy disk version like. I hope I'm not a shitty version of this storage.

Speaker 3 33:34

Yeah, it doesn't go into any information about which humans are faster to read and write.

Speaker 2 33:37

It does talk about what our maximum capacity is, but I don't know, just not write speed, read speed, write speed.

Speaker 3 33:42

Yeah, I assume we have different durability, like life.

Speaker 1 33:47

What's my upload speed? How many? Bits per second am I.

Speaker 2 33:51

I think that depends on how smooth or rough your brain is.

Speaker 3 33:54

Well, you start with all your DNA, right? So I guess it's nine months. Ooh, damn, yeah yeah. 145 zettabytes per nine months, that's your upload speed. Honestly, it could be worse. That's your upload speed.

Speaker 2 34:11

Honestly, it could be worse.

Speaker 1 34:13

Honestly, that's probably pretty good Considering that's like the amount of storage in like the world, then some, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 34:22

Actually, as I was looking up research for this particular article, I think I saw something like they expected this year that all of the digital data that's saved in the world is about 200 zettabytes oh shit.

Speaker 2 34:36

Oh damn. And so each one of us could contain almost the entire world. Yeah, each one of us could almost contain currently the entire world's digital data, all the information, all the digital data that exists. Goddamn Damn Way to go to go.

Speaker 3 34:51

That's a lot of useless information yeah, we are well we're, we are really doing things inefficiently here if it's mostly porn there's eight billion of us, and the best we can do is is 200 mediums yeah, yeah, we just need joe and just let's just take, stuff him full of stuff.

Speaker 1 35:12

Let's use a Patreon and just go from there.

Speaker 2 35:14

Let's pick a new patron every month, and that'll be our storage $100 a month.

Speaker 1 35:19

You get to be our storage device.

Speaker 3 35:20

You can be our storage unit. I hope I'm a Creed album, that's all.

Speaker 1 35:27

I got I hope I'm the entirety of the B movie. I will say that one matt.

Speaker 2 35:34

That one was super interesting just simply because it reminded me of the matrix. But instead of batteries we are just flash drives, and that concept is super, super depressing, but also kind of cool to me yeah we only exist.

Speaker 3 35:46

What happens when we die? I guess that's. Maybe that's why we are hard-coded to repopulate, to pass our DNA on.

Speaker 2 35:54

To pass our DNA on, yeah that makes sense. This is a whole other rabbit hole. Do you think a human?

Speaker 1 36:00

would ever blue-screen of death, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 36:04

Florida is where we send those people. Why?

Speaker 1 36:06

do you think, doug's?

Speaker 3 36:08

there. He'd be sodded, and now, he lives there yeah, florida is just like the hard drive crushing area that's the recycle plant yeah, it's the e-waste oh god, I wonder what data would be stored on doug's hard drive.

Speaker 1 36:28

I don't you know what?

Speaker 2 36:29

no, I'm not curious, just horror movies yeah, it's just horror movies and disney that's it, yeah, horror movies and disney yeah, all right, yeah, I'm up here.

Speaker 1 36:38

So one of the articles that you pulled for me was the day abay neutrino detect, the day abay neutrino detection experiment, and it also includes the 2017 guangdong nuclear disaster I'm probably supposed to be in relation that.

Speaker 2 36:54

The first part is in relation to the second part and I'm so sorry, mike, this one it was not the most riveting read no, but I'm okay with it because it was at least relatively simple for me.

Speaker 1 37:04

Um, it's okay. It's pronounced nuclear nuclear. Do you say nuclear or nuclear Nuclear, nuclear, nuclear. You don't say nuclear, nuclear, nuclear.

Speaker 3 37:18

Nuclear Nuclear, nuclear Nuclear.

Speaker 1 37:22

Nuclear Anyway.

Speaker 2 37:25

This is great audio. Everybody wants to hear this.

Speaker 3 37:28

Put that on the soundboard Nuclear.

Speaker 2 37:30

Nuclear, nuclear.

Speaker 1 37:32

This article basically again goes over these two things which, if I can TLDR them, the Diabay Neutrino Detection Experiment was essentially this experiment that was designed to study neutrinos. Way back in the day, over in in I, I think it was china, if I'm not mistaken. China, if, uh, oh god, bad time to do that impression. No, I didn't mean to do that, um, but um, I'll. Yeah, essentially it's just them studying neutrinos, kind of like what, um, uh, jason was talking about before. Where, um, they're these?

Speaker 1 38:11

you forget my name no, no, I forgot, if you like I forgot if you talked about like a way of like uh uh, like detecting them and everything like that, but that's essentially what this is we realize the capability of we realize the capability of neutrinos and what they are Over. In China specifically, we found a little bit more of this information with the 2017 nuclear incident Guangdong incident, but they developed a way to scan and read neutrinos back in the day.

Speaker 3 38:46

Hey girl want to see my Guangdong.

Speaker 1 38:50

Dude, you're on fire tonight, bro.

Speaker 3 38:52

I know bro.

Speaker 1 38:52

You're on fucking fire tonight, dude. But we are basically able to create equipment that was sensitive enough to track these neutrinos' movement through various materials, which is what's giving us the ability to potentially use them as a communication relay relay like what jason was talking about. Yeah, the 2017 guangdong nuclear disaster essentially what happened here was back in 2017. There is an event that occurred at one of china's uh nuclear reactors in guangdong. Um, in this accident, one of the reactors kaboomed, it exploded and it compromised the safety mechanisms that were inside of the reactor. This was uh. This leaded up to a potential release of a fuckload of radioactive materials, including our boys, the neutrinos. So, specifically, what happened? Was this explosion damaged? They had this thing called the three safety barriers and it just wrecked them. Um, and these were designed to prevent radioactive material from escaping. They're killing, fuck off man. Um, apparently, this explosion the the biggest part that this article goes over is that this explosion may or may not have been an accident.

Speaker 1 40:12

It could have been a cyber attack. Ah, yep, attack. I just attacked you cyberly, ah.

Speaker 2 40:20

There's a lot of those articles on the site as well.

Speaker 1 40:22

Yeah.

Speaker 2 40:24

I think you can actually find out about the WannaCry virus on this website.

Speaker 3 40:27

They didn't have CrowdStrike installed.

Speaker 1 40:29

I think you don't want CrowdStrike installed right now. So there's a theory in this article that they go over, stating that there was a software that was injected into the system which was responsible for disabling a lot of safety features, which lead it to the explosion. Apparently, this article also goes over the roles of cyber attacks in nuclear safety and how a cyber attack on a nuclear reactor or a nuclear like facility uh could be fucking devastating um. If hackers are able to get into this, that could cause uh not only neutrinos but other radioactive uh late uh materials to leak out into uh. You know neighboring towns I mean this guangdong one is relatively close to hong kong, so if there was ever a disaster, hong kong is fucked um and we've seen this happen in, like chernobyl and uh was it three mile island, I think um yeah, three mile bikini atoll, yeah, where we're spongebob blues and you see um you see what this leak of radioactive waste essentially could do to surrounding areas.

Speaker 2 41:42

It just decimates the populations and the the living organisms around there probably fucks up all the stuff that's stored in the dna too oh yeah, mutations well, that's yeah that's one of the the reasons radiation is so dangerous is it literally changes your dna and that's why people get so fucked up after being exposed to it yeah, I was just going back to my article um, but anyway, uh, the reason that the 2017 um guangdong incident is brought up is because we already had the technology that that day obey detector.

Speaker 1 42:21

We already had these detectors at this time and during that event, you, we could pick up, um, various signals of nutria, uh, neutrinos god, that's such a weird word to say neutrinos during this effect, meaning we were able to capture these things flying through, and I know, I know, jason said that they're harmless for the most part, but there are theories that too much could be a bad thing.

Speaker 2 42:44

Well, you know too much of anything is always a bad thing You're absolutely right.

Speaker 1 42:51

It also goes into the importance and the issue that is misinformation and controlling information. So with the case of the Guangdong nuclear disaster the fake news, if you will, kind of yes, yeah. So the authorities deliberately spread misinformation during that time to the public to kind of ease them into a weird sense of comfort and make them think that nothing's really going on Doing. So they were trying to confuse the public with conflicting reports, contradicting information. The goal essentially was to again reduce the panic and make it difficult for people to understand what was going on and basically people to be like fuck it, I don't care anymore, the government's got my back.

Speaker 1 43:36

When reality they don't fuck, oh no um, oh no, yeah, we've seen this happen during, uh, chernobyl. This happened the um I believe it was one of the towns right next to chernobyl didn't evacuate for like 48 hours because the government was like, no, nothing happened, it's fine, nothing happened, don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 43:54

No, business as usual. You have to keep making products so we can run.

Speaker 3 44:00

I think also the Soviet Union didn't admit that there was an issue and like Sweden detected it or something, and they like phoned up the USSR and they were like, hey, and they were like, nah, we don't know what you're talking about, bro.

Speaker 1 44:15

Secretly. Everything's on fire and they're like we're fine here, what's wrong with you?

Speaker 3 44:18

It's fine, but are you warm?

Speaker 1 44:22

But, yeah, the article goes into more about the importance of like I don't even know if importance is the right word to use, but it goes into like the use of misinformation and controlling information that's being given to the public because you can I mean, it's not the best thing to do, but it does help quell uh, uh like public panic and things like that.

Speaker 2 44:43

So, yeah, it goes into that a little bit um I'm so on the fence about like I get that if something catastrophic is happening, but you're trying to quell it and you might I get the not wanting to tell everybody about it, but I'm also always on team. Like, just give me the information, I don't care what it is, I just let me prepare.

Speaker 1 45:02

Yeah, exactly, that's really all that article goes over in a nutshell. It's way more detailed than that, but I couldn't understand half that shit, so all of these are yeah, all of these are it's.

Speaker 2 45:14

Each one of these is like five solid pages of huge paragraphs of not only not in english, but also very, very heavy, heavy topics.

Speaker 1 45:26

Yeah, and this is a hard website to understand even ones where I was like this will be fun and light lighthearted. That's why I picked this next one. And it really fucking it isn't.

Speaker 3 45:37

The title is great, though. That's why I picked it yeah.

Speaker 1 45:40

So this one's called 100%. Why? Disclosure through memes, failed XVIS meme, memetics and it's mysteries, memetics and its mysteries. I can. So if it comes up, mike, I can tell you what xvis is, I kind of got it here, but you might be able to help shed a little bit of extra light on it.

Speaker 1 45:59

Okay, so as just like a overview of like the world we live in today. Uh, your average layman is on social media fuckload right, and people are usually drawn to a more simple explanation over complex ones. People prefer, when you hear hooves, you think horses, not zebras, that kind of thing.

Speaker 3 46:20

People don't like to think too hard.

Speaker 1 46:21

Exactly when you don't think that hard and you take the easiest answer at face value when you don't think you're hard, yeah. When you don't think you're hard, yeah, when you don't think you're hard. This gives you this sense of comfort. It gives you less things to worry about, especially during stressful times. There are a bunch of ways that you can use this thought process to manipulate and create false narratives, false beliefs, make distorted reality for some people that aren't in the best mind spots.

Speaker 3 46:55

Wow, this doesn't sound familiar at all.

Speaker 1 46:58

Not at all. I've never heard of anything happening like this Topical right, Especially not to 77 million people.

Speaker 3 47:08

I'm sorry continue.

Speaker 1 47:09

One of the methods that has been very prolific, especially on social media, of of doing this is through memes small viral ideas that sped, spread very, very quickly, and that's kind of what a meme is. Memes on a on a basic level, it's like small bits of information. It's like a virus. It's small bits of information that travel, uh, that like spread and travel from place to place to place. So that fucking meme of the cat going. Oh, there's a reason.

Speaker 1 47:39

The reason, I hate that cat dude it called on because I don't know what it is about that, but it drives me nuts it's because it's overdone, but it's, everyone knows it's not that I hated it immediately.

Speaker 1 47:49

No, but it's. It's overdone, it's a meme because it's short. It's just hate. It's short and it's contagious and it's spread like wildfire. That's what a meme basically fucking does. What this article explores is XVIS, which is a system designed to manipulate beliefs and perceptions using memes as a tool. This system makes the argument that memes have become incredibly effective at shaping people's views, sometimes even creating false memories, kind of like the fucking Mandela effect. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 48:20

The piece of information that I found literally like five minutes before we hit record. I'm very excited to share Good.

Speaker 1 48:27

But this essentially proves that this system proves that society is very vulnerable to these, to meme, to meme tactics, that's meme ticks. That even goes, the article even goes into how the medics yeah. Meme ticks the article, even Meme ticks. The article even goes into how memes work on the brain. So memes can influence your brain through your neurodynamics, which is the way the brain processes and connects information. When you hear or see one of these whole cats, it can alter how your brain processes that information, pushing it to either filter.

Speaker 1 49:03

They just reinvented subliminal messaging which has been a thing for like a hundred years. That is like the best way of putting it. It's subliminal messaging, essentially.

Speaker 2 49:13

Well, this all ties into the like one of the first things I talked about, about how perception and reality are dependent on what information's in front of you.

Speaker 1 49:18

But this again makes it very easy um to spread things like conspiracy theories or misinformation. I mean, I've seen memes out there where it's just like ha ha, uh man manduki from penis, and it's like ha ha ha, that's hilarious. And then people will be like no, this p is storing the balls and birds aren't real. You know, people think that birds aren't real because of that stupid meme a lot, no, they didn't the guy that invented that whole thing?

Speaker 3 49:44

like he invented the thing, the idea and then he held a rally for people that believed it, even though he didn't believe it himself, and, like people, showed up yeah yeah, I'm pretty sure that's a thing there's your meme, yeah, it's, and look at what that's caused.

Speaker 1 49:59

Now people think birds aren't real because people are fucking stupid. Um, there's a part, there's a portion of this article that goes over memes as a meme plex, basically saying that a meme isn't just a single idea. It can become part of a memeplex, which is a group of interconnected memes that create a larger belief system. So you'll get memes having to do with one or another. One of the examples they use here is or this flat isn't just one idea, it's a whole network of ideas that are supported by one, each other. I'm gonna go back to the whole birds aren't real idea, because that one we talked about first and I like that one better.

Speaker 3 50:38

It's as if somebody wrote an unnecessarily long academic paper on 4chan.

Speaker 2 50:45

Honestly kind of when debauchery meets intelligence.

Speaker 1 50:48

Yeah, and how stupid internet jokes accidentally bred like a neo-nazi subculture yep, it even goes into saying things like um, I mean the, the, the memeplex is a danger, because once it starts building it can't really stop, because the more information that's added to it. It's like a snowball effect. It's just going to get bigger and bigger and spread more and more misinformation.

Speaker 2 51:14

Well, it's like a triggered demonic response. Like you associate things in your life with the fucking memes.

Speaker 1 51:20

Yeah, and now you can't escape it. No, why would you want to Consume?

Speaker 2 51:25

the meme. That's what I'm saying. It's like nicotine Consume the meme.

Speaker 1 51:28

Yep, saying it's like the meme yep, here's your meme and your needle and nick a meme, nick a meme. Oh my god, that's a good one, dude.

Speaker 3 51:34

Nick a meme can we trademark that? I feel confident, comfortable with that. You gotta really, oh no, you have to.

Speaker 2 51:41

You have to enunciate the c in there.

Speaker 3 51:43

Real fucking well I think I should move on damn it matt.

Speaker 2 51:51

I think we should move on. Damn it, Matt.

Speaker 1 51:57

Cut all that out.

Speaker 2 51:58

No, yes, just no.

Speaker 1 52:02

Hello, we're back. Hey, what's up?

Speaker 2 52:05

Wally's out. Hey man, We've been talking about fucking bosons and neutrinos and shit.

Speaker 3 52:11

Put it in the middle so you can hear the first syllable and then nothing else Keep it on there.

Speaker 2 52:21

Just make sure the N is very audible. Okay, I got you.

Speaker 1 52:26

Oh God, this is how we get canceled.

Speaker 2 52:30

I'm surprised we haven't been canceled yet.

Speaker 1 52:32

I would have voted for Obama for a third term.

Speaker 3 52:37

I have black friends.

Speaker 2 52:39

We got to move on. We got to move on. The more we say, the worse it gets Wowie zowie.

Speaker 1 52:48

Hello everybody, we're back at it.

Speaker 2 52:50

I love that you built that in like we're pretending shut up uh.

Speaker 1 52:54

So the article also talks about something called social media meme control. Uh, basically saying that, um, these social media platforms have become breeding grounds for these meme plexes, which they have. Fucking. Every single social media has went from being a somewhat quality social media to just Facebook memes. That's what they're all boiling down to. I got rid of fucking Twitter because of that. Now it's just Facebook Yep, yep, these, and people share them. There's, there's bots on there that are sharing all these mean plexes and everything just gets shared and consumed and it spreads and spreads and spreads, and it spreads and spreads and spreads.

Speaker 1 53:30

The article does make an argument that by feeding certain memes into public consciousness, we can effectively shape millions of people's beliefs. So the argument that they like to make is you can basically shape and form how people's way of thinking on a deeper, deeper level. Um, which means, yeah, through means which we kind of already established, is possible, like this whole article has been basically saying that. But it's basically like no, we can basically rewrite you through memes. Yeah, which is fucking creepy. Um, it's terrifying. Yeah, just, you could be scrolling twitter and not even realize that you're being fucking.

Speaker 2 54:15

Uh, manchurian candidate dude like and all of a sudden you have all of l ron hubbard's books and you're moving. What the fuck yeah, and you're moving um, oh fuck yeah, there's.

Speaker 1 54:33

There's a couple bits in here that the article talks about which does not make any sense to me, and I think it's the uh examples they use. So there's a portion of this called the failure of disclosure through memes, and it says in the article. It says that despite the power of memes to shape beliefs, there are some instances where attempts to implant certain ideas through memes fail. For example, the idea of alien duck, alien abductions, didn't spread well into some parts of europe because of cultural differences. And it cites the rendlesham forest ufo incident as an uh, an experiment that revealed that only people who had already been exposed to certain ideas were susceptible to interpreting the event in the way the experimenters intended. Other people, whose brain had not been primed by specific memes, were immune to this message. So they're basically saying Whoa. So they're basically saying that because of some other countries' cultural differences and cultural beliefs, some meme things can't affect you the way that the creator wants it to.

Speaker 3 55:39

I mean it makes sense. It's like how you handle information that you're fed is dependent on previous information. What doesn't make?

Speaker 1 55:49

sense to me is the example they use, the Rendlesham Forest UFO incident. So TLDR Rendlesham is a forest in, I think it's England.

Speaker 3 55:58

Yeah, this is the UK's Area 51. It's almost identical to the Area 51. Exactly, it's in a forest in England.

Speaker 1 56:06

Yeah, in the 80s it took place. In the 80s A bunch of people saw lights. They claimed alien abductions, things like that. But I don't know why this is being used as an example in of something that didn't catch on because of cultural differences, because the Rendlesham Forest UFO incident is very popular over there, so I don't understand why it's holy shit.

Speaker 2 56:30

So is this? Uh, okay, if, if, if the veracity behind this article is actually there, would that not mean that the rendlesham forest incident is just a, like a false flag operation?

Speaker 1 56:43

I mean that's one of the uh conspiracies behind it. Yeah right but again, it just doesn't. That example doesn't match with this. Saying this this, I'm, I'm like interpreting this wrong, but from what I'm interpreting from this, they're saying that the rendlesham forest ufo incident was an experiment that didn't get popular because of the cultural differences in europe. But again, but again, this is extremely popular in England, so maybe it's outside of England it's not that popular, but you could argue the same thing about Area 51 outside of America. Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 57:19

I said Area 51, I meant Roswell, but I don't know if it's like. Well, I don't know, because people outside of America know about Roswell.

Speaker 2 57:29

Yeah, oh yeah, I mean that's like a big.

Speaker 3 57:36

It's like the epicenter for UFO it's like a foundation for a lot of UFO imagery and stuff.

Speaker 1 57:43

Well, it also uses another example, it says the article goes on to say that attempts to implant other conspiracy memes, such as those involving black flying triangles, failed in some regions because of cultural resistance. Like the Phoenix lights into them. But this again, this is the TLDR black flying triangles. It's a shape of a UFO. People claim that.

Speaker 2 58:05

Right, the Phoenix lights, the triangle, the cigar and the saucer. Those are the three big ones. Yeah, but the saucer, those are the three big ones.

Speaker 3 58:11

It could also be because this is like the 80s and by this point period, that time period, people were like aliens are real.

Speaker 1 58:19

Yeah, but again, maybe I'm interpreting it wrong, but to me they're like again with this one, the black flying triangles. It's like them saying that the idea of the UFOs being in the shape of a giant triangle didn't catch on because of cultural resistance. And I don't I.

Speaker 2 58:36

That doesn't sound right to me well, think about it like so this is going back to what cultural resistance?

Speaker 1 58:42

what culture is like? No, those are. Those are squares, not triangles. Well, again back to religious texts.

Speaker 2 58:48

We have the difference between Indian culture and Christianity. We've got the golden chariot in the sky versus the shooting star with two trails for the legend of Mishra. It's different interpretations. I think you can take the same exact thing and apply the different filters to it and arrive at the same conclusion, no matter what.

Speaker 3 59:10

I take it as being like people who lived in the uk culturally were more likely to hear of this incident and be like oh wow, that might be real, that might and and that's interesting and we should look more into that, whereas maybe other people in different cultures in europe were either, like that can't happen. Science says no.

Speaker 1 59:35

Yeah, I guess so, or they were like Jesus, wouldn't let that happen. I don't know.

Speaker 3 59:40

Right, I guess I have no idea.

Speaker 1 59:42

The last little thing I'm just going to briefly touch on. It's the power and dangers of meme, where the article basically is just like be careful. That's yeah, wow, wow, riveting. Careful. That that's uh, yeah, wow, riveting. Okay, I'll read you the fucking text from the article. It says it warns that we must be cautious with how we engage with memes, as they can distort our understanding of reality, make it easier for harmful beliefs to spread. Social networks, in particular, play a critical role in this process by amplifying the spread of ideas and controlling the information that reaches us. Be careful, like is that what you want? Play a critical role in this process by amplifying the spread of ideas and controlling the information that reaches us.

Speaker 2 1:00:19

Be careful. Is that what you want? Is that all the info in your article that you care to share at this point?

Speaker 1 1:00:25

Mike, yes, it is, my brain is turning off.

Speaker 2 1:00:29

I need to share this now because it's been eating at me. Earlier in this article you mentioned the acronym XVIS, right? Yes, okay, a lot of people speculate that's a government organization and from everything that's been gleaned it seems like that's correct. Again, I say seems because there's no concrete proof. But if it quacks and it walks and it waddles and it's got feathers, that type of thing, it's probably a pig. It's probably a pig, yeah, a pig actually.

Speaker 1 1:00:59

It's a pig horse.

Speaker 2 1:01:00

Yeah, so apparently XVIS is a consciousness or dream research facility that has been gathering information on dreams across the world for the past I have no idea how long have you been having dreams. That's dude. That's the first thing that came to mind when I saw this. I was like holy shit, they've been actively looking for that. Apparently it's related to UFO or UAP. If you're abroad, um phenomena or abduction scenarios Apparently these dreams of people who find them strange slash recurring, tend to have more details. When it comes to this XVIS organization.

Speaker 1 1:01:49

Um, is this the fucking was it um? The organization from fucking kingdom hearts where everyone has an X in their name, 13 or whatever.

Speaker 2 1:01:59

Twitter I don't remember.

Speaker 1 1:02:00

Twitter yeah.

Speaker 2 1:02:02

I don't know what it's called. I don't know what you're talking about. Maybe On top of this. Xbis is in possession of something called the Quelltron machine.

Speaker 1 1:02:11

Quelltron.

Speaker 2 1:02:13

This is an incredibly advanced piece of machinery that is not of. It was not built by humans. However, it was gifted to us and it may be related to uh, changing the perception of the passage of time they really just can't let us, they just can't admit that humans can invent anything.

Speaker 1 1:02:35

They're like oh, we didn't make this machine, it was gifted to us. Can we have something? No, anything.

Speaker 2 1:02:40

Does everything have to be given?

Speaker 1 1:02:41

to us? Can we just say no, we invented crayons, that's us, we did that Like or something. Please. Nope, mario, us Can't take that.

Speaker 2 1:02:51

No, what else?

Speaker 1 1:02:53

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 1:02:54

So apparently also gleaned from this investigative discord, the how do you pronounce it? The gazalians, the gizlians.

Speaker 3 1:03:04

What are we landing on here? Yeah, I think we went with gizlians earlier.

Speaker 2 1:03:07

The gizlians, the gizzles for short, the gizzles, the giz people. The giz people are apparently a species that are first encountered in.

Speaker 3 1:03:17

Sorry, they prefer people of jizz.

Speaker 2 1:03:20

Well, they're first encountered in the area of Jizzle Iran, which is apparently a place the jizz people of Iran. From this time, which is a weird sentence all by itself, and Forgotten Languages speaks of them in a way that it infers they're either alien or, wait for it, future humans. Ooh, terminators, here everybody.

Speaker 1 1:03:46

Oh yeah, dude, there's a bunch more info.

Speaker 2 1:03:50

People are talking about the planet Deneb, and they're trying to track these Denebian probes that apparently have been tracking us since the dawn of existence. I don't know, man. I just stumbled across this collective document from several of the discords that have been trying like hell to figure out what all of these different articles mean, and they are on some wild shit, let me tell you. I don't know what else to say about it, though interesting very interesting.

Speaker 2 1:04:24

Apparently they have a, an email from an alien whose name is click serraru I hope this email sees you well.

Speaker 1 1:04:31

Click serraru. That's all I got.

Speaker 3 1:04:32

I hope this email sees you well. Yes, how do you pronounce that again, jason?

Speaker 2 1:04:35

Click-sa-ra-roo. That's all I got.

Speaker 3 1:04:37

Click-sa-ra-roo Sounds like one of those cats that's mad. It's like Ra-ra-roo.

Speaker 2 1:04:44

Yes, so long.

Speaker 3 1:04:45

Johnson, old lunger.

Speaker 2 1:04:47

Click-sa-ra-roo.

Speaker 1 1:04:50

It's the samurai pizza cats, but the one-off yeah it's the samurai pizza cats, but like the one-off, yeah for sure there is too old for that. There's a few things I want to bring up before we kind of kind of get to the tail end of it here. Um, first and foremost, on this, this website, there are 12, I think, known like creators of it or like active people on it.

Speaker 2 1:05:13

Anyway, I wouldn't say known, it's speculated there's 12. Yeah, only two of them are confirmed.

Speaker 1 1:05:18

There's one named andrew who is kind of like the, the big name of all this, the one that most people get to like talk to. They email. You can send emails to the website and andrew is one that usually emails back. Um, andrewals also got a youtube channel for the forgotten languages which has over 200 videos, about 250, and they're all these like subliminal, weird, just like artsy looking things. And andreal was asked hey, like, what do these mean? And they're like ignore them, you don't got to worry about. It has nothing to do with the website. This is for the. Don't pay attention to that. Yeah, well, they're there's. They like this is for the people that are like in it. Like this isn't for, like the layman, this is basically just a way for me and the other like these are for the Cicada 3301 people.

Speaker 1 1:06:05

No, not even that. This is for the other like the other, like runners of the website and posters of the website to communicate with each other. So this is like an internal like.

Speaker 1 1:06:13

So this all might just be fucking code that we have like would have no idea, exists maybe um there's two other youtube channels on here, um, the only two I can find that even remotely talk about this site. One is by uh elders vault, who doesn't first off uh. No, no disrespect by saying this, but dude sounds like he's trying his hardest to be moist critical. His voice is just so. He's like hello everyone, welcome back to my channel, and I'm like you're moist criticaling so hard right now, um, but he doesn't really go into the details as much as I want. Um, he does have a quote-unquote interview with um andreal. This is allegedly a fake uh interview. I can't confirm or deny if it is or not, but it's speculated that it's fake. There is another user on here called fake in the sense that they wrote the interview and the responses themselves.

Speaker 1 1:07:11

Yeah, yeah, that's what they's what it is.

Speaker 3 1:07:13

They created it or fake, as in like, the person that they interviewed claimed to be someone they aren't.

Speaker 1 1:07:20

It's fake, as in they created the whole thing, but the they made it up. Yeah, but there's a side argument that it's fake, as in there's a whole.

Speaker 3 1:07:29

I don't think so.

Speaker 1 1:07:30

There's a whole Nope, don't think so. There's a whole conspiracy that andrew is like this ai. Uh, it's not even a real person and this whole website is basically an introduction to like learning and feeding knowledge.

Speaker 1 1:07:47

This ai and I don't buy that ai's like this are going to be running websites in the future, but people think that andrew is an AI, so this interview is technically not real. It's with a robot. But I don't believe that. There is another guy on YouTube named Sidori Research who has like four or five videos they're all like an hour and a half to two and a half hours long where they deep dive into parts of ForgottenLanguagesorg. He is the one. He is kind of a dork. Sorry, dude, I'm being real, you're kind of a dork. Um, very knowledgeable my people. Yeah, he's very knowledgeable, but he's like yeah, I'm on this site probably about 10 to 15 hours a week.

Speaker 1 1:08:25

I go on it every day, so I'm kind of like yeah, and he's like I'm kind of like the the knowledge on this website and no one else is going to have as much knowledge as one of these and I just want to say I liked elder vault's video, but he got everything entirely wrong and here's why I'm like imagine what he would do to this yeah, and I'm like, oh god, come at me, you fucking dweeb. I dare you go get laid. At least I have a wife and a kid. What do you?

Speaker 3 1:08:52

got fucking nothing, I'm sure he's got a, and that's all he needs.

Speaker 1 1:08:56

Shit you got me.

Speaker 2 1:08:57

We've got no free time and wild imaginations, I will say that's really all, we fucking need.

Speaker 1 1:09:02

I will say he's kind of difficult to listen to. But if you just want someone to just info dump.

Speaker 3 1:09:09

You have spent more time shitting on this man than talking about the actual content. I'm getting to it.

Speaker 1 1:09:14

I'm getting to it if you want someone to shit all over him.

Speaker 1 1:09:18

If you want someone to go, set it up if you want someone to go to super in-depth into a lot of the articles on here way in-depth, like again he's got, he's got like 10 hours worth of shit here, this is the one to go to. Like. This guy has the fucking knowledge very smart dude on everything that's going on this site. He says he's constantly like not constantly, but he's in regular like relatively regular communication with the creators, so he's like the knowledge base on this thing. If you don't feel like you'll be able to navigate around the site. So I recommend looking at his information because he's got a lot of good shit on there. I watched one of the site. So I recommend looking at his information because he's got a lot of good shit on there. I watched one of the videos. Didn't understand any of it, but it's all kind of up here in soup form, which is cool.

Speaker 2 1:10:03

It's there for when you go on Jeopardy.

Speaker 1 1:10:04

Yes, exactly what is ForgottenLanguagesorg Correct.

Speaker 2 1:10:09

Thank you, Ryan Is there anything else we want to say about this fucking site? No, I can't. There's a lot of stuff. There's a lot of stuff? Do we have a theory on why?

Speaker 3 1:10:18

Why is this here? I honestly have no fucking idea. I think I have read the theories that you explained before this and I still don't fucking understand or know that the logic doesn't make sense. Yeah, I haven't heard a theory yet and been like, oh, that makes sense. Yeah, there's None of this makes sense.

Speaker 1 1:10:37

There's a 4chan theory where it's just a smart, really smart dude just trolling people, but you're not going to commit this much time to a troll.

Speaker 3 1:10:43

Yeah, this is committed to being hard.

Speaker 1 1:10:45

People think it's an ARG, but this is way too involved to be an ARG.

Speaker 3 1:10:48

It's almost 20 years at this point. Yeah, that's the thing is, like some, this has to fall on one side of the only, the only two reasons anybody does anything for 16 years, and that's, there's a purpose and they're doing it for a reason, right?

Speaker 1 1:11:07

or this is something they just fuck around with in their free time and this is a hobby information for a hobby yeah yeah um there's, there's another conspiracy or there's another theory that, like this is like a, a group of like high intellect individuals that just get together and they just post shit to each other and that's what the site is for. I think it is something similar to that. I think this is a bunch of nerds that you know, you know the the like trope of like the 80s, like dnd group of like five dudes that like dress up as their character, like in real life, go larping and they'll talk to each other in like their characters, tongues and shit like that. I think that's this. This is the equivalent of a star trek nerd speaking klingon for science nerds?

Speaker 3 1:11:53

yeah, that's an interesting idea. Is that these this is like some sort of secret society, but not for like any real reason, just for fun.

Speaker 1 1:12:00

It's a bunch of star trek nerds speaking klingon to each other. That's what this is.

Speaker 3 1:12:04

That's a thing I feel like I might do is like if I had a bunch of friends who were also just like super autistic and we were like, hey, let's start our own secret society yeah and just for the hell of it. And then we'll make a website and then just put crazy shit on it because there's another I.

Speaker 2 1:12:22

I half agree with that. The other half is that I think the people that are a part of this actually think they're compiling like the means to create a universal language. I think they think Mike, I think they think they're doing that.

Speaker 3 1:12:38

Here's the thing, though is like, if you're nuts enough to be like compiling some sort of universal language in a way that's like schizophrenic and doesn't make any sense, how are you also eloquent enough to write intelligently about a lot of the topics that are on here, because some of this stuff may be plagiarized from actual academic papers but it's compiled in a way that is coherent. Yes, as long as you can make sense of it, and it has a consistent like. Each article has a consistent style in its narrative.

Speaker 2 1:13:20

Oh yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 1:13:34

And it just doesn't read to write the script for a sequel to a movie or just a movie in general that sony just wants the concept of. So they're they essentially are forced to have someone write a script for so they can have the rights to it. And a lot of these writers will actually write a super over thethe-top, very well-written but insane plot to a script because they're like I just had fun writing this. I knew it wasn't going to get produced, so I went balls to the fucking wall and just wrote whatever I wanted.

Speaker 2 1:14:07

That's just Junji Ito, that's his whole fucking MO.

Speaker 1 1:14:11

I think this is a similar thing where it's people that are very passionate about what they're talking about talking to other people. They're passionate about a bunch of other nerds, and this is their way of saying. No one else is going to look at this, so I'm just going to go balls to the wall with it.

Speaker 2 1:14:25

Might as well talk about Neutrinos.

Speaker 3 1:14:27

Do that for 16 years. That's my thing.

Speaker 2 1:14:31

I feel like there's some goal that's being worked towards. I just don't know what it is.

Speaker 3 1:14:38

I guess I just get bored of things too quick Because, like, even if I made this my hobby.

Speaker 1 1:14:45

I just I don't know. Also, there's uploads. I think every day there's a new post.

Speaker 3 1:14:51

So I don't think there's enough for that I don't know.

Speaker 1 1:14:53

That's just something I read. I don't know.

Speaker 2 1:14:56

I think we've I think we've beat this dead horse to a meaty hairy pulp.

Speaker 1 1:15:02

Well, I will say this, added to my 145 petabyte storage, or whatever it was.

Speaker 2 1:15:08

There you go, 145 zetabyte.

Speaker 1 1:15:10

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Speaker 2 1:15:47

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Speaker 1 1:15:58

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Speaker 3 1:16:02

No, okay, good, that's fair.

Speaker 1 1:16:04

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Speaker 3 1:16:09

Bye.

Speaker 1 1:16:11

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