Don't Look Under the Internet
Don't Look Under the Internet
DLUTI 182 - Project Pegasus
What do Barry Obama, the Bushes, a lawyer and free cam girls have in common? Time travel, maybe. Find out this week while we discuss Project Pegasus.
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Speaker 4:I doubt it like girls and birds. You know what else isn't real? Probably what we're talking about today.
Speaker 2:Alright, that's been.
Speaker 5:I love how you used to like try and shroud the whole thing in some mystery and like give some intrigue, now, just rip. Like this is probably fucking fake. Try and enshroud the whole thing in some mystery and like give some intrigue. No, no, just right after. Like this is probably fucking fake.
Speaker 2:Like this is not real there's some fake I got a bullshit talk about, so oh, stay I, I got a better one.
Speaker 4:Don't worry, I got a better one. Oh yeah, so instead of a bird scooter to transition us into our topic, I'm gonna teleport us over to our topic.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's my.
Speaker 4:That's my teleport sound.
Speaker 5:No.
Speaker 4:This is Do you know what a fucking teleporter sounds like? Have you been through one? Like fucking Andy?
Speaker 3:Yeah, have you been to year 2045 and seen the telephone booth that you get into?
Speaker 5:Yeah, are you a fucking doctor who I am disagreeing with. The whole bird scooter, scooter. There's no one part of it. I don't care, I am picking out.
Speaker 4:What we're talking about today is the little known story about a man named Andrew Basiago and his tales about time travel, basiago, basiago. Whatever Andrew Basiago and his tales of time travel and teleportation, we're talking about Project Pegasus, not to be confused with the Israeli spyware, because you will find a lot of that.
Speaker 5:There's a lot of that's definitely an Israeli spyware from like 2016.
Speaker 3:I don't know I don't care, that's a thing they still use and it's super expensive and it's super fucking scary. Where are we going to be?
Speaker 2:referring to this as Mike.
Speaker 5:We should have covered the Israeli Project Pegasus at some point.
Speaker 2:Project Pegasus- how are we going to refer to it tonight?
Speaker 4:Project Pegger.
Speaker 2:You maybe came in front of the boy. You certainly came in front of the boy.
Speaker 4:You actually came in front of the boy, pegger oh lord god, I'm so happy they're bringing back King of the Hill.
Speaker 2:I'm scared, man, I'm scared. That's for a bonus, though. We don't need to get into that, that's fair we don't need you but we will yeah, there's a lot to cover here.
Speaker 4:This. There's a lot of shit to this that we're gonna unpack now full disclosure, because I know we're gonna get those comments like and actually you're fucking wrong and you freaking. You're right, we're wrong. Yeah, here's how it goes. Um here at diluted. You fucking figure it out. You're wrong about this thing.
Speaker 3:That is definitely real, mike. Yeah.
Speaker 5:Details here are super fucking important.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but we hear it all the time.
Speaker 2:We're gonna get a decent assist from Andrew Bishago we hear it all the time when we cover alien shit.
Speaker 4:We'll cover things that are similar to this.
Speaker 3:The conspiracy. Shit really brings some characters out of the YouTube algorithm.
Speaker 4:Woodwork, yeah, and here's the YouTube algorithm woodwork.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and and here's the thing you people we're going to be wrong on some things.
Speaker 4:We're going to skip over some stuff because we don't have all fucking day. If Andrew Basiago goes on multiple six hour fucking interviews about this, you think we're going to be able to crank it out in like an hour? Probably not.
Speaker 5:So we're going to crank it out in an hour while I was watching those videos.
Speaker 4:I'm so happy for you, was it the aliens? Yeah, dude.
Speaker 5:Edging is a wonderful thing, I knew it.
Speaker 4:Just throwing that out there. Disclaimer we're probably going to roll over some shit. Probably going to get some things inaccurate.
Speaker 3:But at the end of the day, who's to say?
Speaker 2:what's real. I don't think you should even put the effort into the disclaimer. If you, if you, if your life is such that you're getting super upset about this, that's it's more of a you problem. That's good a hobby.
Speaker 4:If this is your first episode, we're gonna treat this like every other episode and put one half ass into it yeah, and here's this as well if you get upset about how we cover this, if you get upset about how we talk about this, maybe you should go touch grass and then come back about it.
Speaker 2:Mike's yelling at people who haven't. Even you don't exist.
Speaker 3:Let's get on to it this is the live podcast version version of just like taking a shower and just getting like replaying conversations in your head.
Speaker 5:You're like man. I should have said that, yeah, that happens more than the shower.
Speaker 4:That happens more than it should to me. I'm not gonna lie to you oh, anyway, so a standard part of everybody's day.
Speaker 4:Well, let's get into it, boys. Let's talk, because we got a lot to talk about. So, yes, we do. What be project pegasus? You know that. Let's start there. Let's start at the beginning. All beginnings begin. So Project Pegasus depending on your source, it can vary on when it started, but the usual go-to is anywhere between 1962 to 1972, where the prime times of a secret government program that was being ran by DARPA and the CIA. Now we're going to go into DARPA a little bit later, so just bear with us there.
Speaker 4:So actually what happened is when Nikola Tesla died in the 1940s in his apartment, a secret government I guess you could call it a task force kind of came in, stole a bunch of his research paper that had mentions to technologies and machines that could potentially help us figure out things like time travel and teleportation.
Speaker 4:The details between that are a little iffy to me. It all has to do with electromagnetic fields around us and around the Earth. Around us and around the earth. This one person that I watched describing the papers that Tesla was writing on basically said that Tesla's theory was that everything on earth kind of works like a camera does. Where a camera open up the lens, it takes a still image of what was in front of it. What they kind of used to simplify it was saying, basically the earth is that camera and we are the subject that is taking a still image of. So everything on earth using its electromagnetic force basically gets like a you could say like the quote-unquote still image of itself imprinted onto the earth, which is like the camera taking the photo. It's a very weird way of putting it and I still don't fully understand it, but I think to dumb it down as much as possible, that helps Basically the earth the earth is taking a record of everything that happens on earth using electromagnetic fields.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, okay. So, things that happened in the past, we still have records of it and still have the ability to tap into those records because we still have the quote unquote photos from the camera. It's kind of like when you delete a file off, like a computer, like technically you can't access the file once you've deleted it unless you go through some stringent like recalling yeah does work too. Yeah, that works out really well. So in this task or not this task force, in this government program, um, that was started because of nikola tesla's papers.
Speaker 4:Um, it started off, like I said, in the 60s and it started off originally with a group of 140 kids and 60 adults. Now, now our boy here, andrew Boshago. He mentions that the American trials started with 140 kids. There were Latin American trials that started well before America got into it and started bringing children into play. These were pretty much the test subjects. Unfortunately, I'm going to go into this a little bit in a smidge on why they were using kids for the test subjects, but I kind of want to go over the whole broad definition of what Project Pegasus is real quick first.
Speaker 2:Wait, Mike, what are you about to get into?
Speaker 4:You'll see I'm not going to go there. So basically, I saw the pause.
Speaker 4:You're like basically this this program with these 140 kids and these 60 adults, is a secret government program between DARPA and the CIA to figure out and use time travel and teleportation for the advancement of the United States and potentially the world and teleportation for the advancement of the united states and potentially, the world. Um so andrew describes him going into this project when he was in third grade I believe he said about like seven years old, give or take um, and when he was in the waiver in third grade oh yeah whether you wanted to or wanted to not be involved in government yeah
Speaker 5:it was in the fine print that they
Speaker 4:knew you wouldn't read, so they were okay with you for public school.
Speaker 5:Now, if you were one of those rich assholes that went to third grade private school, then you know you were fine, yeah, so.
Speaker 3:Andrew, did you drink the?
Speaker 4:pink fluoride.
Speaker 4:Andrew describes the machinery from Tesla's paperwork and the machinery that was built in these government facilities as basically like a stargate. He says that it was basically the shape of like two mammoth tusks that are like touching at the points at the top, and he said that they were gunship gray. And my favorite part of his little detail with this is that the machine was just touching at the points at the top and he said that they were gunship gray. And my favorite part of his little detail with this is that the machine was just being powered by being plugged into the wall by just a regular old power socket, which pisses me off.
Speaker 1:It didn't even have a ground on it.
Speaker 5:It didn't even have a ground on it, it was just like the two prong.
Speaker 4:And here's immediately. I mean we're going to go over real or fake later. Immediately fake to me, because how the fuck are you going to power a time machine through a wall socket? But my fucking, my fucking shit. Just my power goes out if I plug in a space heater for too long.
Speaker 5:Tell me, make it make sense. That's just a control console.
Speaker 3:Make it make sense. That's because your shit's actually on circuits. Back in the day they were just like nah, fuck it, no grounding, no circuits. You plug that shit into the power and whatever happens is on you fam.
Speaker 4:I dare you to touch this back then they were like electricity is the wild west, you plug it in, it's on you. At that point we don't fucking know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2:Also, I did spend where the alien made like the denuralizer in the basement, yeah, and it's like all janky yeah it's just fucked, yeah, but to be fair.
Speaker 5:So I thought about that point for a long time and then it hit me. I was like, wait, I wonder if it's just like. That's just the control console that needs almost no power anyway.
Speaker 4:That would make a little bit more sense. But then how are they powering the time machine?
Speaker 5:That's probably built in. Why wouldn't you hardwire that?
Speaker 2:Nuclear fission. It probably needs a lot of fucking power. It's a hamster on a wheel.
Speaker 5:I don't want to throw that through. A fucking surge protector Like what?
Speaker 3:Let's say the original one was actually hamster powered but they got enough hamsters to go into the future and get like super good batteries so all of our lithium batteries are because of the future right exactly yeah, that's all you gotta do.
Speaker 2:To travel in time is the speed of hamster, hamster plus car battery that's all you need to do to travel.
Speaker 4:In time is the speed of hamster.
Speaker 5:Hamster plus car battery, that's all you need.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that makes way more sense. But real quick, what I want to bring up about the children and everything that they used, I want to bring this up real fast and then we're going to go into a little bit more detail into like DARPA and things like that. But Andrew goes on to basically describe that again, they used 140 children and 60 adults for this. Most of the experiments were done with children. Um, because children they literally, he says at one point. Basically it's because children could just fit through, like the portals, and adults couldn't like. It was pretty much just that easy. Kids are just small and compact enough to fit through these fucking portals.
Speaker 5:It's just convenient for us to feed these children.
Speaker 4:Yeah, pretty much so the first round of children were from Latin America.
Speaker 4:Like I mentioned, they used these children for testing the safety of teleportation. They're basically the guinea pigs. Unfortunately, one of the instances that Andrew says that he was around for was they sent a kid back through a teleporter. They sent the kid back to a position where there's a water fountain and the kid landed in the water fountain and they something with the kid being in the water. The water affected the gravitational field around the transporter or something, and so when the kid came back to his time, uh, he came back, uh, before his feet did so he just didn't have feet and they just flashed back into existence and now he's just laying in this puddle, footless, this poor fucking reality.
Speaker 3:Oh, there goes, my think, the quote from this guy was.
Speaker 5:His legs were turned into stumps.
Speaker 3:I think was the quote from the fucking video, just straight up, just cut off Also it wasn't part of why they used kids, because their brains were more malleable and resistant to just having a total breakdown at the distortion of reality.
Speaker 4:It was a bunch of reasons. It was of reality it was. It was because it was a bunch of reasons.
Speaker 4:It was that it was because, um, kids see things in a different perspective than adults and they hold on to like weird details better than an adult does like, for example, an example I thought it was mostly just like if you show a kid some really weird shit, their brain doesn't immediately just go like oh fuck yeah, it's like that, basically, but and and it's also because kids will um, they'll see like things in a different perspective than adult does, like, for example, an example if you send like an adult back in time and they see like a cowboy wearing a weird like yellow vest and like a blue hat, um, and like a banana in his holster, they're just gonna the adult has already seen enough shit and they know that they're on like a, they know they're on a mission to collect, you know XYZ data. So they're gonna basically just be like oh yeah, I ran into some weird cowboy who's dressed funny they have enough experience to have like preconceived, like ideas of things exactly adults gonna be like that's just some weirdo.
Speaker 4:A kid's gonna be like oh, I saw a strange man like unfiltered did you just describe curious george's handler maybe and next to him was a guy wearing a white and red striped t-shirt and a baby a kid is a kid is going to report back that weird detail which doesn't seem like, because kids they don't have a filter, so they're going to report that detail and their handler's going to be like oh okay, that's good information to have, just in case when an adult just could be like, yeah, he was dressed weird, moving on.
Speaker 3:That's one of the.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's one of the other reasons they use kids is malleable brains all that good stuff. Again, they can fit through the portal better. I'm going to go into some stuff later on I'm sure Doug might too with chronovisors and how the kids are important for that. In the meantime, before we get there, great, let's talk about what DARPA has to do with this.
Speaker 3:DARPA is at the forefront of a lot of fucking conspiracy theories. Like half the crazy shit you're going to find on the internet If you just type in conspiracy theories, it's probably going to have to do with DARPA. The DARPA is the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency and it actually used to just be called ARPA, but basically they research developing cutting edge technology for the military, which you can see why this kind of puts them at the forefront of a lot of conspiracy theories. It was formed by Eisenhower in the 50s to try to catch up with the Soviet space program, but it was eventually defunded in favor of NASA for that purpose and then it got refunded to basically do what it does today, which is they provide funding and lead projects in collaboration with lots of researchers and universities around the country to build shit, mostly for the military. Now, the most famous thing recently that they had been involved in that. If you put in darpa and conspiracy theory into google, you're gonna see a lot of shit about harp, which is h-a-r-p, the high frequency active oral oral research program.
Speaker 3:So this thing is basically just a bunch of fucking radio antennas that they stuck in alaska and it's it measures the ionosphere in the atmosphere, which is the section of the atmosphere where air is not thick enough to support flight but it's too thin. Or it's yeah, it's not thick enough to support flight but it's too thick that you can't like stick satellites in it because there's too much drag. And this is like a super interesting um area of the atmosphere because it's it's the first layer of the atmosphere that's thick enough to absorb uv rays, but there was not really a good way to measure it before they built this thing. So this thing basically shoots radio frequencies through this layer of the atmosphere and then measures what happens to the radio frequencies, and they basically do it to research the makeup and physical properties of that section of the atmosphere. But what conspiracy theorists say that it actually does is allow the government to control the weather, or also control, mind control and shit like that.
Speaker 3:We even had fucking Magic the Gathering in Congress fucking saying that they should use this thing to control the fucking weather.
Speaker 5:Magic, the Gathering.
Speaker 2:That's incredible.
Speaker 4:It took me a second to be set together she fucking believes that this thing is real, and well, it is real.
Speaker 3:But she fucking believes that that's what real and or, well, it is real but that she fucking believes that that's what this thing can do. Um, but darp has also been accused of a bunch of other shit, like being somehow involved in pedophile rings.
Speaker 3:There's lots of shit about obama if you look up darpa yeah, there is I found a whole fucking well, we'll get into that later, but I found a whole fucking website called obamaconspiracyorg, which is just like some dude who's just cataloging every conspiracy theory that has something to do with Obama, and there is a section on DARPA specifically, where you can get into learning about the Obots, which is apparently like these mind controlled people who are subservient to Obama, and I guess DARPA has something to do with these like obot, brainwashed Obama servants. I obot. It's fucking crazy. Darpa also helped fund research that led to Moderna's COVID vaccine, so you can see how they got wrapped up in some of that stuff, too. Things that DARPA has actually done, though, include making the internet, too, um things that darpa has actually done though, include inventing robots.
Speaker 3:Well, yes, inventing the internet, which was originally called arpanet.
Speaker 3:Um, so yeah, the internet started as like a government funded military a xanadu hyperlink project it wasn't algor, you know what he, the gore bots and the obots have actually been at war. We can't go into this right now. Um, this is a whole other thing. They helped invent gps. They invented what eventually became google street view, which was a project at mit where researchers were tasked with building a system to help navigate urban environments. Weather Weather satellites are thanks to DARPA. The Tor browser like onion routing.
Speaker 3:Onion browsers, yeah, onion routing was something that DARPA helped invent, calo, which was actually an early predecessor to Siri. So Siri was built off of this artificial intelligence project called Calo that DARPA was involved with. Computer graphical user interfaces, um, were part of like the very earliest graphical user interfaces were a part of the project.
Speaker 3:You're the reason you can left click and right click yeah, so wow, um, all this is to say it's actually really important that your tax dollars go to funding science and research, because everybody ends up benefiting every single day. You end up using these research projects that get funded by these government agencies, but I don't know how that's relevant to anything that's going on in the world you know the irony is at all.
Speaker 4:The irony is, if we give enough money to funding to darpa for advancements in technology, eventually it is entirely possible they could figure out how to control the weather, and then we're full circle back to that problem have you seen the movie geostorm mike?
Speaker 3:global warming is real, but it's actually actually. This is a real conspiracy theory that global warming is real, but harp is being used to make it happen so that people can uh profit off of like all of the go green campaigns and shit like that. It's insane. This shit's fucking crazy. If you just want, just want a mind-numbing experience, just like I said, just put DARPA and conspiracy into Google or YouTube. There's no shortage of this crazy bullshit.
Speaker 5:Or the heart machine. The heart machine's conspiracies are fucking batshit.
Speaker 3:Those just go on forever. It's literally just a bunch of fucking radio antennas.
Speaker 5:That's all it is and that can control the weather, Matt.
Speaker 4:Some government agent is just like yes, that's all it is, and that can control the weather.
Speaker 5:Matt, some government agent is just like yes, that's all it is.
Speaker 3:Yes, get all my bullshit yeah, darpa is also involved in annual robotics challenges and currently they're working on a lot of projects involving AI and AI research, but they do work on military shit, so a lot of their projects are basically just more effectively blowing people up hell yeah, hell.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Sick, well, do a dang, I guess. Well, now that we have that out of the way, yeah, I've, I mentioned what we got the project pegasus is. Yeah, I've mentioned what Project Pegasus is. Yeah, I've mentioned what Project Pegasus is, but we didn't really go too deep into who the main character is. Who's Project Pegasus?
Speaker 2:And let me tell you, Andrew Bishago, as you've heard us say and can already probably guess by now, is kind of a fucking weird guy, but let me give you a little more background on him. So he's an engineer yeah, he's a lawyer, a writer, a public speaker, um, and he's best known for his claims of project pegasus, apparently, of you know apparently a very good lawyer too.
Speaker 4:I think he's got like five different degrees and he's got a pretty successful law firm.
Speaker 2:So good, I didn't go into that. I should have looked up like who he's, what he's done. But um, I was focused on this aspect of it all. But um, he has, you know, he claims that there's he's been involved with time travel. He claims that he's been, uh, on a mission to Mars.
Speaker 2:A lot of these allegations that he has have basically helped widespread conversations in the conspiracy and paranormal communities. So, even though he may sound like a fucking wacko, he's done a lot of, I guess, advancement in those areas. I guess I don't know if that's the right way to describe that. So basically he says that between 1968 and 1972 that he was part of a top secret DARPA program called Project Pegasus which widely used teleportation, time travel and interdimensional travel. So he claims that there was time travel via Tesla technology, which we kind of briefly touched on, basically, like this came up through Nikola Tesla's research, and that people were being sent back and forward in time through what's called quantum access, which is above my pay grade to explain to you.
Speaker 2:He's also stated that he has personally visited the, the ford theater in 1865 and that's the night of the lincoln assassination and he's gone to it multiple times and had to remain undetected. But we'll go into that a little more later too. Um, so another one of his uh like claims is that they use something called the chronovisor, which was basically developed in part by the Vatican, and it was a machine, essentially, that displayed the image of a historical event and would allow an individual to enter them.
Speaker 4:The amount of shit. The amount of shit going on with the Vatican is insane. The Vatican has a locked up room that has a bunch of hidden uh technologies and artifacts that are not viewable from the like to the outside world very fascinating. I want to cover that as well but at some point the chrono visor is one of them they also.
Speaker 4:They also apparently have like a bunch of like, um, like they have like the spirit of destiny down there. They have um like some da vinci paintings and stuff that hold like secrets to life pick of destiny down there. That's what I want to know you better fucking believe they do brah. Um, they have a bunch of hidden shit down there that we need to look at at some point well, well, deluduty will get to the bottom of it, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Let's do a B&E.
Speaker 5:Just real quick B&E Deluty, b&e ready go.
Speaker 2:Alright, so Moron Bashago, moving right along here, he also asserted that multiple future US presidents presidents including barack obama, george bush, donald trump uh were pre-selected um and told of their uh destinies in advance. Hello cat, um. He also claims that obama was involved in project project pegasus under the name of barry sotoro, which I believe mike will.
Speaker 3:Uh, yeah, I'll get to that later, probably more as well.
Speaker 2:And the other another thing is that he said he went to Mars. He states that between 1980 and 1984 he and others were teleported to Mars via a jump room and basically the purpose of this was to establish relationships with extraterrestrials living on Mars. And he basically has gone on record describing these encounters with martians um, claiming that they're both hostile and friendly. So that's interesting it's just like people wow, there's a good one and there's a bad one um, but not only did he do all this shit.
Speaker 2:Uh, the man is also sort of normal to a degree. Uh, he has some political uh ambitions, and in 2016, he ran for president of the united states as an independent candidate, stating that, uh, his goal was to expose the government, essentially, and disclose time travel to the people. Um, and he's appeared in many interviews, conferences, whatever you have it. He has talked about this shit a lot, ad nauseum.
Speaker 5:A lot Ad nauseum for sure.
Speaker 2:So yeah, there's that. I wonder how many votes this man got, because I'm pretty sure in 2020 a guy ran under the name De's nuts and got like a million. I'm very curious how this You're not wrong.
Speaker 5:But I found all of like the. Well, I'll go over that.
Speaker 3:Do you think he beat Kanye the paperwork In 2016.
Speaker 2:I hope.
Speaker 3:He beat Kony, for sure, oh yeah.
Speaker 5:That was four years before that, Doug. Yeah, that's right 2012.
Speaker 2:I forgot that was four years before that doug. Yeah, that's right, 2012. I forgot that's when. That's when everything got wacky. Um, all right. So now that we know who he is a little bit, I'm gonna go over the first time that he supposedly uh jumped through time. Um, so basically, he claimed the first time uh was in the late 1960s, uh, when he was about six or seven years old and under the supervision of his father, raymond, who he says was a scientist.
Speaker 1:Deborah, deborah.
Speaker 2:Deborah, I'm time traveling. His dad was a scientist and engineer working on classified projects for the US government at the time, and their first jump was from New Jersey to New Mexico. Basically, they went to a DARPA facility in East Hanover, new Jersey, where these experiments were being done, and once he was there, I guess that was when he learned that it was part of Project Pegasus and yeah. So again, kind of just some of the stuff I've already gone over. But basically, the teleportation machine was a tesla based device consisting of two gray elliptical booms about eight feet tall and 10 feet apart. Um, these booms basically created a shimmering like energy field between them, uh, what they would call a Vortal tunnel or a quantum tunnel. Um, and that was. You know, they just walk through it like fucking Stargate style. You know what?
Speaker 4:I'm saying he mentioned I don't know if you bring it up Um he mentions that it is very reminiscent of the movie sliders.
Speaker 5:Um hell yeah.
Speaker 4:And people misconstrue time travel as like how Star Trek does.
Speaker 2:He's misconstrue time travel as like how star trek does. He's like that's inaccurate. It's more like sliders he. What he gets very into that. He's like it's like sliders. The man watched that movie and he's like this is my life.
Speaker 3:This is my life. He probably just like dropped acid and watched this movie and this is set off I did
Speaker 5:this and then just picked up where the movie left off.
Speaker 2:It's just like all right so, uh, andrew baggiago says that his father instructed him to step forward into the energy field, and he claims that he did so. And then the air crackled, a blue and white light engulfed him before he lost his footing and basically said it was like he was tumbling through space. So moments later he landed in another government facility in Santa Fe, new Mexico, over 2,000 miles away. He described the sensation as like falling through a tunnel of light and energy, which is a terrible descriptor, because who knows what that feels like, other than no one?
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, Like when you fall through a tunnel of light and energy.
Speaker 2:I fucking tripped earlier and I was like damn, this really is like when you accidentally fall into the large hadron collider.
Speaker 3:You know, I've been on space hadron collider.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's probably what it feels like getting gut checked every two seconds. Okay, that was fun, let's do it again. Um, all right, so he was basically as soon as he got, uh, like he arrived. Um. He was quickly met with government officials um, who reassured him that he was okay and then led him to a safe area. So why?
Speaker 2:remember you're fine, um. Just cracks him over the head shaking um, you're still. You're still in new jersey, you little bitch. Um, all right, so, uh, he says his father was not only aware of these experiments but was directly involved with them, and he claims his father told him that these experiments were being conducted as part of national security interests, particularly for Cold War intelligence gathering. His father supposedly went through teleportation devices as well, meaning they both traveled separately to. So they both traveled to New Mexico together, basically, but in different instances. And, yeah, after this first jump, that he did.
Speaker 5:I just watched your door door just opened all by itself. That's just my cat um, yeah.
Speaker 2:So basically, after this first jump, he claims that he underwent dozens of other jumps, including, you know again, trips to historical events. Um, and he insists that the us government has been using this technology since the 60s and keeps it a secret to control energy and global travel. Because you know why. The fuck would we not want to just teleport our ass right to japan?
Speaker 4:globalists. Well, one of the things that he mentions is not to not to delve too deep into it, because I don't know if any of you guys will either, but he contradicts himself a little bit, because then he goes on to say later on that the reason he was chosen to be in the project was because handlers from the future went back in time. Handlers from the future went back in time. That knew Bishago went back in time to let the CIA know. Like hey, this kid is going to let the whole world know about our information and and talk about how great we are and how great our teleportation is, and it's supposed to help actually get us to a future where teleportation is common, uh, is like a common thing, and that's our main use of, of travel so they want him to be a whistleblower?
Speaker 4:I don't understand we'll get into it later. Yes, but yes, they do. Uh, again it's teleportation.
Speaker 2:I just want tubes, all right I want future vacuum tubes yeah, tubes, I'll just get sucked some you know what.
Speaker 3:Just get sucked off. I'm in the future for the suicide booze yeah, 100%.
Speaker 4:Wow.
Speaker 3:Quick and painless or slow and horrible.
Speaker 5:Slow and horrible. Good choice. Neat Jason. Good choice.
Speaker 4:Neat.
Speaker 5:Jason go ahead. Is that all you got about his experiences with his dad? I?
Speaker 2:didn't have a good bird scooter about suicide, so you know that's fair.
Speaker 5:I don't think anybody does.
Speaker 2:But, Jason, if you have information on some of his jumps, you can.
Speaker 4:Right now would be the time you could kill yourself, the time to do it, or you could go back in time.
Speaker 5:So now I want you guys to think that you are presented with the opportunity to go back in time wherever you want to go. What would you pick?
Speaker 3:I think I'm good.
Speaker 2:I'm going to kill.
Speaker 1:Hitler.
Speaker 4:Maybe the 90s, maybe I'll go back to like last year. Oh, you know what?
Speaker 3:I'd go back 2021 before I agreed to be on this podcast.
Speaker 4:I would go back to the 90s so I can experience, experience Jurassic Park and things in the theaters for the first time.
Speaker 5:In the theaters. That must have been a riot. Well a lot of people might think of historical events like the Revolutionary War, the Crucifixion of Jesus.
Speaker 3:I would go back and stalk Mary 100%.
Speaker 2:I want to see how that shit went down yeah, I want to see Mary get railed and be like that's what happened you? Liar, just bust into the room, or what you don't understand. No, god did it no, no, no, paul got into it. I am God, I am God, god did it.
Speaker 5:No, no, no, I am God. She said she wouldn't make me pay, because I'm God.
Speaker 3:Or just like find a moment where she's like it's just a little lie. What's the worst that a little lie? What's the worst that could happen? What's?
Speaker 2:the worst that could happen let me tell you every holy war that's ever happened the world is based off your fucking lie.
Speaker 5:It's one lie. What could happen?
Speaker 4:it's one lie. What could happen? Kick in the door and be like they hit the pentagon they hit the fucking pentagon.
Speaker 3:Just show her the pope look what you've done no.
Speaker 5:So if people could go back, a lot of people might answer that they would go back to some kind of event that has some historical significance to it Number 11. That, honestly, I could see that as being high up on the list. So Bishago says that he has experienced eight separate time travel technologies throughout the course of the project. However, a lot of the instances involved a teleporter based on technical paperwork. Again, this is going back to all the stuff that was found in Nikolai Tesla's New York City apartment after he died in 1943. Nikolai Nikolai, Nikolai Tesla's New York City apartment after he died in 1943. Nikolai Nikolai, Nikolaj. It's Nikolaj.
Speaker 3:Nikolaj, nikolaj.
Speaker 5:Bishago also says that he time-traveled six times to the Ford Theater on the day of the Lincoln assassination, but he did not see it happen. Apparently, he also he also saw President Lincoln on other occasions as well, especially another famous one that we'll get to, and this is a direct quote. He says I did not, however, witness the assassination. Once I was on the theater level when he was shot and I heard the shot followed by a great commotion that arose from the crowd. It was terrible to hear, but Shago also claims he was in the same place at the same time twice, but from two different times in the present, meaning he saw himself coming back in time to the same point in time, hello.
Speaker 5:And this also occurred at the Ford Theater in 1865, apparently. And he goes on to kind of elaborate saying After the first of these two encounters with myself occurred, I was concerned that my cover might be blown. Okay, first off, what cover? What is your cover here, baby Spy, he said, unlike the jump to Gettysburg in which I was clutching a letter.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, baby legs.
Speaker 5:Unlike the jump to Gettysburg, in which I was clutching a letter to Navy Secretary Gideon Wells to offer me aid and assistance in the event I was arrested. I didn't have any explanatory materials when I was sent to Ford's Theater, he goes on to say in fact, during one probe, the one to Gettysburg, the Gettysburg address I was turned as a Union bugle boy, can I interject a smidge and add something about the the Ford Theater?
Speaker 1:Yeah, go ahead please.
Speaker 4:So during the Ford Theater jump, that is when one of the main points that the Project Pegasus, the higher ups, used as an example of when you go back in time, it's not you going back to a you know, going back to the past You're going. It's a multiverse type of situation. This is one of the core examples they use as an example of that because he went back, and he went back multiple times. Every time he went back he noticed subtle changes. He does mention that one time he tried to go up to the theater where Lincoln was, he got stopped by a security guard and kicked out. He mentions that he went back again and when he tried to go up again there was no security guard but there was a lock on the door, so he could not get to Lincoln. So with these small subtle changes, that's when they're like.
Speaker 4:so you're not going back to the past like Samurai Jack, you're going to a different multiverse and they use that as an example for so what you're saying is.
Speaker 5:It's probably impossible to go back in time and have a photographic picture of yourself back in the same timeline appear in the present right.
Speaker 4:That's what you're saying oh boy, would wouldn't that be crazy, if that happens like.
Speaker 5:If it's a multiverse, you're going to a different universe, which means you wouldn't actually affect your current timeline. Which means if you had a picture of yourself from 1865 and the Gettysburg Address dressed as a bugle boy, that wouldn't make much sense now, would it? Mike?
Speaker 3:Unless somebody from another, a you from another timeline showed up in our timeline, that's fair enough.
Speaker 4:Infinite timelines mean infinite Andrew Bishagos going back.
Speaker 5:That's the first rule of time travel.
Speaker 4:There's always an Andrew Bishago Always a. Bishago.
Speaker 2:What about the whole paradox thing like two of you in the same space-time? The whole paradox of two in the pink one in the Lincoln. Yeah, what the fuck that would have been before our Andrew Bishago was born, though.
Speaker 4:So what did it matter?
Speaker 1:Right, he does he does.
Speaker 4:Also, if it helps, it's not going to help, but he does make mention that they told him don't. This never makes sense, don't worry about it. When he gets sent back, they tell him like you're gonna probably see other versions of you, don't think too much on it, just continue on with your mission, don't?
Speaker 2:worry about it, you're doing yeah, don't worry, your brain is gonna melt, but like you're fine, it'll be fine yeah yeah, it'll be fine.
Speaker 5:Um so, uh, kind of elaborate more on the Gettysburg address conundrum that I am talking about. Um, there's an image that exists of a smaller boy with some. Actually, if you look at it, I will admit like the shoes he's wearing look a little off for the time period. They're just big shoes, they're. They're big.
Speaker 2:I mean that everybody else has just really really basic shoes on their feet, or he's just wearing his dad's shoes, so it's not even that.
Speaker 5:Do you go into why he's wearing the new Hoka Bondi 8s? What's up?
Speaker 4:Do you go into why he's got those big shoes?
Speaker 5:No, I have no idea.
Speaker 4:So, according to you know, I'll finish your sentence, your sentence on it, first and I'll talk about it.
Speaker 5:Okay, so this is a direct quote from Andrew Bishago. He goes I had been dressed in period clothing as a Union Bugle boy, gettysburg, wearing oversized men's street shoes, that I left the area around the dais and I walked around 100 paces over to where I was photographed in the josephine cog image of lincoln at gettysburg, um, and one of the things you can see is, uh, like, if you look at the photos, um, the shoes are a little weird, yeah, but like I could say that that's me and you'd be like, right, it's just a boy with a bowl cut that could be literally anyone it's not even that.
Speaker 4:It's not even that. The shoes are like that weird. So he describes it as, before he goes back, they have. They basically have like a costume department that dresses him in period pieces. That way he can go back and blend in. When they dressed him to go back, they gave him that bugle outfit, but they didn't have a proper pair of shoes. They didn't have any that fit him. So the only thing that they had were some Crocs.
Speaker 3:It's just those jelly shoes from the 90s, like the sandals. Yes.
Speaker 4:The only thing that they had were they were still period accurate shoes, but they were like streetwear. They weren't formal shoes like what everyone else at that Gettysburg was wearing, and they were adult size as well. I think he said they're like a size 10 or some shit like that. But yeah, that's. What was going on is basically the costume department just didn't have the right equipment for him, so they sent him back and whatever the fuck they had, that would still look the time frame they should have sent back three kids in a trench coat is what they should have done would have got the same effect.
Speaker 5:I think just three bushakos. Yeah, there you go. He does absolutely double down, double down, double down. He says I was physically at the gettysburg address and he reiterates that this is photographic evidence, that this is, this is photographic evidence of time travel, more or less, and this is kind of his, what he bases most of his arguments on. Um, I mean, it's interesting because like we've seen we've talked about photographs of past uh events and like there's a picture of somebody with, like a cell phone or something like that you know what I mean. Like we've we've seen these stories before, we've seen these images before, so like it's not too far out of the realm of possibility that this is another one of those similar images. Whether that's actual photographic evidence of time travel or not, that's a whole other question. Yeah, 100%. In my mind, this proves fucking nothing also keep going.
Speaker 4:I have to pee, okay he then goes on and says uh
Speaker 2:uh, man has to piss like right before his part.
Speaker 5:oh, I know I'm, it's fine, I'm about to do the same thing. Um, so he does. He also goes on. So again, there's like there's a six fucking hour interview with this guy not a lecture where he's presenting powerpoint slides and talking about all of his different time travel experiences and he reiterates that each of his visits to the past was a little different, as if I was being sent to different alternate realities located on adjacent timelines. As these visits accumulated, I bumped into myself twice on two different visits. One day, young Andrew Bishago witnessed a time travel failure that happened to another boy. The child's legs were a few seconds late from the time the main body moved and this is something that I think, doug, you brought this up and apparently they just they appeared like they should have been, but they were not connected and it said he lay and writhed in pain and he had stumps for legs, and that's the quote about that.
Speaker 2:Oh, don't be Joe.
Speaker 3:For some reason, I'm imagining this is like an American dad scene, where it's right where he's like inside, like the secret area where they're like working on secret shit and they just like teleport a kid through oh, absolutely half a kid.
Speaker 2:And then, half a second later, his legs show up like yeah oh yeah, his legs were late, like they didn't even wait they were like yeah, we know what happened, it's just uh, they're just a few seconds late, you know, not quite somebody put in the tracking number.
Speaker 3:Uh yeah, delayed.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, bad weather in the Midwest.
Speaker 5:The last thing I want to talk about, for his trips to the past is probably one of the most significant things that he talks about, and that is how he viewed the crucifixion of Jesus. Now, out of like the the six hour interview or lecture that he does, it's only like a five minute portion of the video and, matt, I linked that to you If you wouldn't mind. Actually, would you mind playing that from the? If you click the link, it'll take you to the timestamp. It's about 35 seconds.
Speaker 1:They had also captured images of the crucifixion of Jesus of Nazareth.
Speaker 1:Now I know he was telling the truth because I saw a 20 to 30 minute 16 millimeter film of the crucifixion of Jesus that was being played, that was being displayed at the Sandia National Labs in Sandia, new Mexico, in the summer of 1972. Now when we left that viewing, my dad was with his longtime friend, connie Chavez, a woman at one point that he wanted to marry, and she was just in distress watching the crucifixion of Jesus as it really happened. Jesus was an historical personage. He was crucified and everybody in that room knew it because it wasn't a dramatized rendering of the crucifixion. It was horrendously awful to watch in light of Jesus's suffering and we could tell, based on our understanding of the three New Testament accounts of the crucifixion of Jesus of Nazareth, that it was a real event and not just some purported event. I mean, you have David Icke claiming that the Bible was scripted by the Piso family of Rome. You have people now in Eastern religions who have come out and tried to show that Jesus is just a recapitulation of a previous deity.
Speaker 5:So, as you can see, he talks about how there's a window device almost like and if anybody's seen Fringe, this is going to remind you of part of that show there's a window that lets you see into not only an alternate reality, it lets you see into the past. And apparently it was him and it was with some other lady and a couple other people and they literally witnessed. Now he says he's 100% certain it was the crucifixion of Jesus. And then by the end of it he's saying well, there were about 600 crucifixions of Caucasian males around that time period, so I guess it could have been any one of those people, but it was definitely the crucifixion of jesus definitely, god definitely 100, and so he.
Speaker 5:He then bases a bunch of wild claims about, like, the history of the world, on the fact that, because I know that the crucifixion was real, I know that the bible's real and all of this shit is real because he saw a middle eastern man with a beard on a cross and was like that must be. Because you saw a very common technique of heretical like execution on just full display right, that means you verify the entirety or maybe he's.
Speaker 3:Maybe he spoke to someone and asked them about it in english, which i'm'm sure they were like oh yeah it's Jesus yeah.
Speaker 4:Is that, hello American Hello?
Speaker 5:fellow Americans. Yeah, it's, the basis for all of these fucking claims are bananas and like the amount of logical, just like leaps of faith you have to take are insane. But here he is telling us about how this window works. He goes over a bunch of different other types of technology that lets you like slightly experience the past versus just looking at it or like view it in from somebody else's eyes. Like he goes over all these different things. It's really cool. It's also batshit insane, like it's just fucking wild. This guy's a lawyer.
Speaker 3:Yes, he's a lawyer, who do you think his clients are?
Speaker 2:evangelicals. I hope the fucking glorpblebians from the clonopoians yeah, but that is the.
Speaker 5:He has several other stories about his, his jumps into the past, um, but from what I read, those were some of the most interesting. And, like I said, if you have a chance to watch at least some of the six hour interview, that five minute clip where he talks about, like the crucifixion of jesus I know we only showed a little bit of it, but like if you can watch the whole five minutes of it, it's, it's wild he's got one great piece of media did you mention when he went back to like a million bc?
Speaker 5:well, oh, that I would I forgot. Yeah, he like briefly touched on that, doesn't? He contradict himself like three times.
Speaker 4:So in the course of talking about it, pick a time and he'll do that, unfortunately, right, but um wouldn't he be sucking down like extremely oxygen risk rich air.
Speaker 3:Here's the thing.
Speaker 4:I'm gonna stop you right there, cause uh, uh, he didn't go back like that. So he used a chrono visor to go back to the year 1 million BC and he mentioned that it was a more red um and like, uh and like a heated version of earth. He mentioned seeing two dinosaurs on this path. But he mentions using the chrono visor, which, like Jason was saying, is one of the pieces of technology that they use to go back. Basically, what the chrono visor lets them do is it allows them to kind of go back virtually, it's like it's basically just like a VR headset, but it he attempts to explain it. It still makes no sense to me, but it kind of allows you to go back and experience this world. But he mentions that when you use the chrono visor and it's kind of just like specific to the kids, like the kids one of the reasons that they chose children for this again is because the kids using the chrono visor.
Speaker 4:Yes, the kids, those children for this again is because the chrono, uh, kids using the chrono visor yes, the kids using the chrono visors um, they can experience the chrono visor uh reality more than an adult can.
Speaker 4:An adult can basically just view it, um, view it like they're you are using, like vr goggles. A kid can actually go into that world more in depth. So he mentions that when he's using this chrono visor to go back to the year 1 million BC. He is there and he's experienced the world. He's able to walk around. He said that he went miles without running into a wall, because the concept of a wall did not apply to him in this virtual world that he was experiencing. So that is what they use for these kids to go back and experience these worlds as well. When they cannot go back physically, they use a chronovisor that lets them go back virtually and still experience everything and bring back and collect data. They can't interact with the world. There's not going to be a photo of him like at Gettysburg, but he's able to still go and view everything that's going on and gather data and technologies and technologies from this the the past also.
Speaker 5:You don't even know if it's your past. It could be an adjacent universe's past you know like man, I hate when that happens that.
Speaker 4:That one I enjoyed because he's like. I went to a million bc, saw two dinosaurs and and I want, I want someone to try to fact check In 1 million BC were there actually dinosaurs or was that still the time of the big bugs, or whatever?
Speaker 5:That's actually a really good question.
Speaker 4:I want to know what was actually alive in that time. I didn't care enough to do any research.
Speaker 5:Mesothelic era, which spanned from approximately 252 million to 66 million years ago. Is that 1 million BC? Not far enough back?
Speaker 1:Not far enough back, approximately 252 million to 66 million years ago, so is that one Not far enough?
Speaker 5:So not even not far enough back. Yeah, yeah, it was 66 million.
Speaker 3:Oh, that sounds great. Thank you, Mike.
Speaker 5:You're welcome. I love that. I can't think anymore, holy fuck.
Speaker 4:But, jason, you mentioned that he didn't really jump around too much more in the in his, uh, the past there or whatever, correct?
Speaker 5:um, he seemed to visit like similar uh eras and time periods, and it's almost like they do whatever program he was a part of, like in when he was a part of darpa um, nor whatever criteria, whateverpa DARPA, whatever criteria, whatever syllabus they had printed out for his time travel adventures. It was like recurring events. I know I couldn't think of anything else. I feel like they wanted to test the same time several times in a row and as like yes, science minded, that makes a hundred percent sense, make sure you get it. But it wasn't like it was. It was like seven events. From what?
Speaker 4:we talked about. I want to read a small snippet and this is from great dreamscom slash, darpa, dash, pegasus, dot HTM, which is a fantastic reference for everything on this. It has everything you could possibly ever need and I'm going to read a small snippet from that. That goes into some of the things you were talking about too.
Speaker 4:Jason so, appearing during all four hours of one of his shows, basiago discusses experiments with the secret DARPA program, project Pegasus, and what he claimed to be a true history of US time travel, research and teleportation technology. As a kid, his father volunteered him to be inducted into the experimental program as a guinea pig from the years 1969 to 1972. He described being teleported from locations in Woodbridge, new Jersey, to Santa Fe, new Mexico, via device derived from Tesla technology. A cavern opens up and that is what he used for time travel During this time frame. He said he witnessed an accident where a boy's feet were sheared off after he was teleported.
Speaker 4:We mentioned that. He also talked about teleportation technology could be used for time travel and development of chronovisors which allowed holographic recordings to be made of historically significant events such as the crucifixion of Jesus and the signing of the US Constitution In one criminal visor recording of the future he was able to witness in 1971, he described seeing US Supreme Court building under 100 feet of brickish water in the year 2013, suggesting that the entire east of Seaboard will be flooded. Time travel technology enabled the US to win the Cold War as the government teleported military secrets of the future to store for safekeeping. And the technology also helped with future presidential elections. Just wanted to add that in there, wow.
Speaker 2:Great, good, good use of our time so these recordings?
Speaker 3:I assume that that means when you're using the Chronovisor. Are you recording while you're using it or you're viewing the recordings?
Speaker 4:You're recording it for other people to view.
Speaker 3:So we have these recordings somewhere still? Are these just like chilling in the Library of Congress?
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's true, that's what his whole goal is to release these recordings and documents to the public.
Speaker 5:I cannot wait to go over his political ambitions in 2016.
Speaker 4:Yeah, anyway, so I mentioned there at the end. Uh, presidents, jason, were you done with your little snippet?
Speaker 5:I'm yeah, I'm good, I'm gonna go take a giant piss.
Speaker 4:You guys have fun bitchin rock a huge piss like I mentioned before, um, this technology was used to assist presidents in future elections, um. So there's a couple that he mentions meeting. He mentions meeting uh two, a couple that he mentions meeting. He mentions meeting two of the Bushes. He mentions meeting Clinton and our Lord and Savior, barack Obama. Obama is the big one here. So in the 80s, andrew, he also. He goes by Andy. I'm just going to throw that out there. So I'm going to call him Andy he mentions that in terms we are, we're best buddies Big list, you guys?
Speaker 4:honestly, yes, we are All right cool. So two time travelers going to the past, so he mentions. He mentions that while he was in college he met up with a protester who was from I believe he said it was from he was in college. He met up with a protester who was from I believe he said he was from South Africa or something and he was talking to this protester about some of the time travel adventures that he's going on. The protester was like holy shit, that's awesome. I know a guy that you should talk to about this stuff. And so he went back to the protester's house and, wouldn't you know it, it was motherfucking, barack Obama was there. And he went on to discuss further with Obama these adventures in time travel and basically Obama was like yep, I'm doing that too. Yep, perfect.
Speaker 4:So that's he kind of contradicts himself a little bit here, because he mentions that this is the first time he met Obama. But then he goes on to claim that Obama was in one of his Mars training classes at California's College of Siskiyous, I think it's called, in 1980. So this was part of a group of 10 young adults chosen to travel to Mars via a jump room. Which jump room is basically? It's what it sounds like. There's multiple across all of the United States, so they can go to one wherever they go to one wherever is most convenient to them, and it's just a teleportation room.
Speaker 1:But he claims that.
Speaker 4:Is a waypoint. Yeah, he mentions that the then 19 year old Barack Obama went by the nickname Barry Sotero, which Doug mentioned before. He mentions that the then 19-year-old Barack Obama went by the nickname Barry Sotero, which Doug mentioned before. He says that he encountered the future president at the US bases on Mars, which he is said to have visited twice between the years 1981 and 1983. He is said to have visited twice between the years 1981 and 1983. On one instance, Bishago says that he even exchanged words with Obama himself while in route to one of the jump rooms on Mars. Guess what these words are that stuck with Bishago to this day. Who's up?
Speaker 2:Don't go into the Twin Towers on 9-11.
Speaker 4:No, he said that on route to one of the jump rooms. Once they arrived, obama said we're here.
Speaker 3:We're here.
Speaker 4:That's it. That's it. So he goes on at one point as well. Hang on, I got to go through my notes here because, jesus Christ, I have them all fucking for the place.
Speaker 3:So he goes on at one point as well, um, hang on, I gotta go through my notes here because, jesus christ, I have them all fucking for the place. Um, so he goes on at one point. What'd you say? We've been trying to tell you that, mike tell me what about my notes suck.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I know my notes aren't the best, uh your notes.
Speaker 2:I try to give, I try to help I try, I do try.
Speaker 4:I do have this link here.
Speaker 1:Essentially plants that effect in the past and causes that effect to become the catalyst for the cause of the effect that you brought back in time.
Speaker 1:So just to spin this analogy one more time if, after identifying future US presidents, the CIA has been approaching them and apprising them of their destinies as president and training them, and even putting the teams in place to get them elected after they have trained them, and even manipulating the electoral process, like they did in 2000 when they made George W Bush president even though he hadn't won the election, by taking data from the future like that and using it in the present to create the future, you are creating the very effects that you've monitored or detected from the future in a way that works with them in the present to create the very future that you've sensed.
Speaker 1:And there's a syllogistic or solipsistic dimension to that. That is one of the reasons why, for example, my father was always instructing Connie not to share with me any of the things he had told her about me, because you don't want to alter the present by giving somebody prior knowledge of a future event or contingency, unless you're damn sure they need to know it and that the benefits outweigh the risks of that, but I think that if we look at the history last four years of us presidential politics, if we consider the fact that I met george hw bush and george w bush at the la hacienda restaurant in albuquerque when I was on Pegasus and they were being run through to be told what their destinies were, and that George W Bush, his 25-year-old son, was all over those tables at that restaurant where the project people were dining, joking repeatedly my daddy and I are going to be president, as he was in his silly way. If we then factor in the fact that I heard Bill Clinton spoken of as a future US, president, Just like a little two minute snippet.
Speaker 4:Basically, it's him saying that he went to this one dinner that the CIA basically put together and it was him, a couple other time travelers and a couple of the future presidents as well. He mentions that a couple of the future presidents as well. He mentions that George HW Bush and George W Bush were both there. It was at this point that HW Bush and W were told that they were going to be president at one point and that they were basically going to start being groomed to become the president. So during this dinner he says that Bush was a very charismatic and energetic man and he's he goes on to say how Bush would keep going to everyone at the dinner party saying did you, did you hear that me and my dad are going to be president of the United States? I can't do a good, George.
Speaker 4:It went more Clinton than anything. I think, yeah, but um, he, he basically went table to table saying, hey, I'm going to be president of the United States, and he kept making the joke that him and his dad were going to be presidents like co-presidents together, because he heard that they were both going to be president. So he made the joke that they were going to run together and do everything together.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they're going to be co-managers? Yeah, but it's at this dinner that the Bushes found out they were going to be presidents and they were being groomed to become presidents. Obama Was also told that he was going to become president and groomed to be that as well.
Speaker 5:During his time On Mars, or was that before that?
Speaker 4:It was during his time. It was during his Mars Fun times.
Speaker 3:So Andy claims, that he just went back in time and Barry just happened to be there, but was it Barry from our universe or Barry from another universe?
Speaker 4:So this is where it gets a little confusing because again he claims that he went there and he just so happened Barry was in his. I like we're calling Barry, like we're friends Obama was just kind of in his class essentially. So he says it was just kind of a coincidence and that's when yeah, yeah, but he found out, but the protest incident yeah, exactly that's what I'm saying, and obama just happened to be there yeah, it's kind of it's kind of contradicting, because you have that where it's like obama just happened to be there to talk to the guy and that somebody has forgotten the things, the
Speaker 3:intricate web of a lie, he of lies that they've constructed.
Speaker 4:He also mentions that that is also when Obama was kind of told that he was going to become president, because he mentions that a CIA guy came up to that house and was like you know, we've already talked to Obama about his future in government and he saw Obama give like a confirming nod about it. So it kind of contradicts itself a little bit yeah, so it kind of contradicts itself a little bit.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it kind of contradicts itself a little bit, um, but he, he has had this knowledge of future presidents, of presidents in the future, and that information has been given to them in the past so they can be groomed to become the president. Um, a little confusing, but that's just how it but that information. That information had to have come from the future um, and bashago has made claims of jumping to the future as well, so yeah yes, he's been all over the place yeah, in particular.
Speaker 3:So most. If you look him up and look up his time travel exploits, most of what he talks about is from the past, because it's easier to come up with fake evidence about things that have already happened.
Speaker 3:Yeah, um, but he does recount in several different interviews that I was able to find a particular incident where he traveled to the year 2045. And apparently this is how he knows that just general teleportation exists at some point, at least by the year 2045. Because he claims that he was in 2045 and was shown just walking into an elevator like device. When the door opens, you're in a different building or a different part of the city. So that level of teleportation will be fully operational within the US by 2045. So imagine how calm life is going to be. I often urge people to study Buddhism, because the future is going to be a lot calmer because of the introduction of these technologies. You're not going to be racing around to make your connections, for example. He also claims that during his visit to 2045, he was given a miniature canister of microfilm to be brought back to the 1970s, which contained a wealth of knowledge of every historical event up until that point.
Speaker 5:Microfilm huh yeah, it's still used in 2045. Yeah, they're really.
Speaker 3:This is the best medium we can give you this.
Speaker 4:Well, that makes sense to me because quantum digital compression. We've got fucking fiber optic connections that actually makes sense for them to use microfilm, because he had to bring that information back to the 70s. They're not going to give them a fucking SD card.
Speaker 3:Where do I plug this in?
Speaker 5:My question is did they just?
Speaker 1:get that ready. How did they do this?
Speaker 5:They is like did they just get that? Are you ready? They're like here. We just had this lying around from well, you know they could have given him a DLC player.
Speaker 4:The people that he went to the people that he went to were basically part of the program in the future, so they they knew that they were expecting some traveler.
Speaker 5:Yeah, they were expecting some traveler. Yeah, they're expecting a traveler to come. The this guy has. He has got. I don't know why he's not a fucking science fiction writer. He'd be incredible, like amazing, like dune level of amazing.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I feel almost like if you had this all written out in one like piece of media, it would become quickly very apparent how little any of it makes sense when put together.
Speaker 5:I guess the Again. This is going back to the six-hour fucking video, his lecture. It's the things that either. Okay, the thing that I took away from that was he is either really really perfected the art of coming up with bullshit on the spot that is coherent with each other, or he's memorized a lot of information. Who knows?
Speaker 2:The man is a lawyer and a public speaker so he literally trained his whole life to be able to hold an argument for something that he may or may not believe in. However, that's fair. I think he has become so ingrained in this that he I mean in the- off chance that is fucking real. Yeah, I think he believes at this point.
Speaker 2:He has to at this point, right like he's probably said it many times, many times many times I mean the guy when you listen to him talk, he's very well spoken, uh, he's, he's good with words, clearly, um, and it's very believable. Like when you're listening to him talk about this shit, you're like, yeah, that's you did do that.
Speaker 4:huh, kind of to harken back to the future thing as well, did matt? Did you uh, find anything about the weird, like emerald tungsten city, that, and the weird nature, how we coexist with nature in?
Speaker 3:this future. The nature thing, I didn't the building that he was given the microfilm in though, was made of emerald and tungsten.
Speaker 5:My first question was how the fuck?
Speaker 3:are building materials going to have to drastically change within the next 20 years.
Speaker 5:But also you were able to just identify that on site. Huh, Like you could look at me like that is, emerald and tungsten specifically.
Speaker 2:Isn't tungsten like incredibly heavy material too?
Speaker 5:Yes, oh yeah, it's one thing that was tossed around between a lot of world powers when they were deciding if satellite-slash-space-based weaponry would be good, because tungsten is very dense and if you drop something from that height you could level a lot of things, and they adapted that in the Rods of God or whatever it's called. What movie was that from? I don't fucking know Geostorm. I think it was actually X-Men Apocalypse.
Speaker 4:So he mentions going to a future and he's gone to a couple different futures and he doesn't touch on many of them, but one of them he does mention is that in one of the futures he goes to humans and like nature, kind of like coexist better than we do now. He mentioned that a lot of the buildings in the city that he went to were a mix of nature and like human construction. So it's kind of like in my brain I imagine, like you know, in movies, where it's like the apocalypse, like 40 years later and like trees and vines start growing through buildings again. That's what I kind of imagined being reclaimed by nature.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's what I kind of imagined. That's what he kind of infers is that we have this like this mesh of both worlds now. And he also goes on to to say as well, is what you're saying? Probably? He goes on to say as well, with that microfilm thing, that he brought that microfilm back and the people were like great thing that he brought that microfilm back, and the people were like great, we're going to document it, but we can't do too much with this because that future that you came from very well might be a multiverse and might not be our future. So we're going to document everything that they said, but we can't do anything about it because we're not even sure if it's actually going to happen or not so how does that information get lost?
Speaker 3:so if he went to 2045 and contacted people that were aware of this entire program, if in the 70s they were aware that the time travel was not to the same timeline, how did that information get lost from the 70s to 2045? Because wouldn't the people in 2045 have been like there's no point in giving him this.
Speaker 5:Well, you have to remember sometimes, sometimes he found himself in the past what do you want from me?
Speaker 4:I think the big, but it's hard to do that the moment he brought up the multiverse. I'm like you kind of contradicted your entire thing here.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 5:The photograph. The photograph from Gettysburg.
Speaker 2:How do? You have that Is, that this is all for sure real.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:We're just trying to make.
Speaker 5:We need to know how it works, though, doug. I need to know how it works.
Speaker 3:I need to know about this guy, the whole multiverse thing kind of makes all of this just completely worthless Dude okay, okay.
Speaker 5:The amount of emphasis he puts on the photo in in that giant lecture he does, he keeps coming back to it. That's like his, his gospel point, like that's where he derives all of his belief, is off the photo, the photograph that he has of himself from 1865 at the Gettysburg address. If multiverse theory is a thing, like he says, it is.
Speaker 3:Another, him or something.
Speaker 5:That should never like. You shouldn't remember the details of that. You know what I mean, because if you remember the details of that, that means you are going back to your past. You are not going back to a multiverse past.
Speaker 4:Oh, something funny. Fyi, I just Googled, the earliest species of homogenes appeared around 2 million to 1.5 million BC.
Speaker 3:So him going back to the year 1 million.
Speaker 4:Him going back to the year 1 million BC means he was more likely to come across people than dinosaurs.
Speaker 3:Just like early people.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:A hundred percent yeah.
Speaker 2:Isn't it like pretty widespread too, like amongst the like people who do study, like time travel, that like going back in time, is pretty much off the table as far as that's concerned.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I think the theory is that going back and also interacting I think the theory is that going back and also interacting like if you, if you were able to move fast enough, you could look backwards in a certain way, to where you'd be able to watch history unfold before your eyes you just wouldn't be able to do anything about it.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. Here's the thing, too that I just thought about, and I'm sure in like time travel circles or whatever the fuck, communities exist around this. This has been discussed before, but you know how, with the multiverse, there's like that concept that in every single, every single thing that possibly could happen there's a multiverse, where that there's like a universe where that happened. Yeah so so now let's imagine that we created the technology to teleport ourselves into another multiverse, correct? So that means that in our universe, let's say, I go back to 1945. In our universe, I teleported to 1945. 1945. And so now in that multiverse or in that universe, there's a me from this universe that is appears in 1945.
Speaker 3:But but but think about it, think about it. That means that if it's possible to invent the technology to jump universes, that means there is a universe out and infinite possibilities happen. That means that there is a universe out there when somebody, where I travel back in time To this moment and punch myself in the face, and that's not happening?
Speaker 1:That's not happening.
Speaker 3:Think really hard about it.
Speaker 5:Intentionality man, that's. All you need is intentionality. Also, mike, I am so excited for you to go off on your rant about this, because I know you're about to.
Speaker 4:I have a bunch of shit ready for the end of this that I'm just going to oh, you're going to unload.
Speaker 3:I know the fact that nobody the fact that people aren't just constantly appearing and disappearing from our reality kind of disproves the entire idea that it's possible to jump the multiverse theory, and especially if you can jump universes, right.
Speaker 5:So multiverse theory basically says whenever a decision is made, the opposite side of that decision is also made in another universe. Right, right, I guess? But, like would that? Would that mean, that in a certain universe that multiverse theory isn't real?
Speaker 4:I've been over this before I made this. This is the conundrum I made before, right. You said this to me before and it's blown my mind the problem with multiverse theory is there's infinite possibilities, meaning there is a universe where we have proven without a doubt that multiverse theory cannot exist and there's another universe where we have proven without a doubt that multiverse theory cannot exist and there's another universe we've proven without a doubt that multiverse I don't think that.
Speaker 3:I don't think that argument works, though, because in every the idea with there being infinite possibilities is, like it's, infinite possibilities that still abide by the laws of the physical laws of the universe, and if one of the of the multiverse, and if one of the physical laws of the multiverse is that travel between multiverses is real, then that's just a fact, that's a ground property of the multiverse. You can't change that.
Speaker 4:But wouldn't? I don't know, I don't fucking know.
Speaker 3:That's like there can be no universe in the multiverse where 2 plus 2 equals 5. It's a law. It's a physical law. You can't change that.
Speaker 5:I think there's a lot that we don't understand about all of that. So, Mike, when you first brought that point up to me about if infinite possibilities exist and if time is given for those infinite possibilities to happen, then that means that there is a possibility that multiverse doesn't exist, Like yes, that's a self-defeating thing. However, Matt, now that you say it has to abide by the laws of physics, like yes, well, there are rules of the multiverse, like there have to be.
Speaker 3:There are physical properties of everything.
Speaker 4:We still have everything to talk about andy buchanan I guess, I guess, but we're going off on tangents. We never do this wrap us up here, jason, you gotta, you gotta talk about this man's fucking his presidential political career.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, brother at this rate, I just don't even care oh man I didn't before we started to be honest.
Speaker 5:I promise I will keep this short and sweet because it is guaranteed short and sweet. Matt, if you want to throw up on our little screen, I would love to throw up on the screen. Andy2016.com. That's it, just Andy2016.com. Fun, friends and love.
Speaker 3:Personals. That's it Just Andy2016.com. Fun friends and love Personless.
Speaker 5:Do it now. So when you get here, you're going to see, just in big black letters and a white background, it says home, and it just launches right into what this site's about. It says Andrew DeBasio is a prominent figure in the truth movement. Now, the truth movement is pretty much everything that we've been talking about up until now. It's the fact that time travel exists, etc. Etc. Etc. For more than 10 years, he has shared with the American people the true facts of our great nation's accomplishments in time travel and Mars visitation. And, honestly, that's the first paragraph.
Speaker 5:The second one talks a little bit about some metaphoric usage of creative descriptions of the truth movement, without telling you anything about the truth movement whatsoever. It does tell you, though, that today, andrew D Bishago is running for the president of the united states. Now, one of the things that he found out well, in his time travel adventures is that he was going to be president somewhere between the years of 2016 and 2028. So that's a chance, baby. He does. He's got one more chance, um, but in 2016, he set up this site and he actually I found all of the uh, the paperwork like the the bureaucratic paper trail that was left by him signing up to become a presidential candidate for the state of florida. Um, I had the responses so like it was a real thing. I I don't remember any of that like at all, but he was a viable candidate for the 2016 election, which you remember all the shit about cam girls, gay chat and adult cams.
Speaker 1:It seems to be what is mostly on this website.
Speaker 5:Mormon boys, oh yeah, mormon boys, oh yeah, the majority of it is ad space for pornographic web websites very niche pornographic websites go to delunycom.
Speaker 5:you might see similar you might see porn, um, but yeah. So like he had intended to become a much bigger political figure than he actually is, because I guarantee like before I looked into any of this, I had no idea that this guy was actually into politics. I have something to add. When you're done, he has vowed or said if elected president, he will lead the American people into a bold new era of truth, reform and innovation. As great as they are Great, join us in supporting Andy in his quest to establish a presidency as honest, just and ingenious as the American people.
Speaker 3:I swear to God it's important to note that truth, reform and innovation are capitalized as well as new agenda and new America.
Speaker 5:There's a lot of capitalization.
Speaker 3:I don't know, You'd think so?
Speaker 5:um, I guess that sounds great but it says nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing. All it says is that he's gonna tell you about time travel. That's the only promise here. So his political campaign slash career. It started and ended pretty fucking quickly, you say that here's the thing. Oh, didn't he go to Connecticut for a little bit too? For what? He ran for he ran for Political office there as well.
Speaker 4:Maybe I don't remember that. So here's the thing with the presidential thing. You're missing out on the most important piece. Jason. Most important piece is that he he has said that he was going to be president in 2028. He was told back in the past two different things. He was told one he was going to become the president. He was also told in another, by another cia operative. He was told you will not become the president, but you are going to be um, you're going to be an important figure in future government. And he's like what does that mean? And they're like more than likely, some form of vice president. So he's got two options either president or vice president. Now here's the thing he said that he becomes president in 2028, and people are like well, why did you run in 2016? Then it's to put his name on the fucking map. He had to get his name out there for some reason. Now his name's out there. People are talking about him.
Speaker 3:We're fucking talking about him, but hasn't he himself already established that it doesn't matter what they told him in the past, since that wasn't?
Speaker 4:Shut up. No, this is real. Can we go back to that? Can we go back to that? No, this is real. Shut up, this is real. He's going to be our president, and you know what? Here's a funny thing I legitimately think he's got a relative and relative is doing a lot of hard heavy lifting here.
Speaker 3:Nothing surprises me at this point.
Speaker 4:A relative good chance of winning, because here's the thing One our political climate right now is in the fucking tank.
Speaker 3:It wouldn't be the stupidest thing that's ever happened.
Speaker 4:It's full of conspiracy theorists and shit already. So here's the thing we already have conspiracy theorists in government. We have fucking Congress members we have.
Speaker 5:Senate members we have people. Jewish space lasers.
Speaker 4:Exactly. Oh yeah, I forgot about Jewish space lasers.
Speaker 2:Trump's already helping us travel back in time, so we're getting there.
Speaker 3:Make our universe.
Speaker 4:great again For him to become president is not that out of line, and here's why. So you have a political climate full of brain dead conspiracy theorists and on the other side you have people who are trying to keep like the general rule of law going and keep with the status quo. It's not working. So what best to bring these people together than a conspiracy theorist who also has a law degree? You have the best of both fucking worlds. You have a guy who believes, yeah, time travel's real, and also Harper probably is too. Harper probably is real too. All this weird shit. But also I got a lot.
Speaker 5:A Machiavellian grifter is the best. Also, though, I got a fucking law degree so I know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4:He is an intellectual, but he's also kind of cuckoo. He is the perfect candidate right now to combine both parties, to get into one united front and get us back on some sort of normality path.
Speaker 2:He is a modern day conscientious.
Speaker 4:And that's why I think he has got a good chance. He's a good candidate to bring everyone together. Now I got some shit that I gotta to talk to you boys about. Okay, I got a lot left that I need to talk about. We're at hour 30, Mike, we're at hour 30, so I'm going to kind of speed run through a lot of this shit real quick.
Speaker 5:I'm just going to drink while you do that, go for it. I'm going to go back and forth.
Speaker 2:We're going to take 10, and it's just going to be Mike by himself. Go for it.
Speaker 4:So I'm going to go through a bunch of shit that I left out throughout this entire thing. So it's going to be a kind of sporadic, but it's information that I feel is very needed. So, first and foremost, darpa had, as he explains, five reasons for involving American school children in such new, dangerous and experimental activities. First, the Department of Defense wanted to test the mental and physical effects of teleportation on children. Defense wanted to test the mental and physical effects of teleportation on children. Second, project Pentecost needed to use children because the holograms created by their chronovisors would collapse when adults stood inside of them. Third, the children were tabula rasa and would tend to see things during the time probes that adults would tend to miss. Fourth, the children were trainees who, upon growing up, would serve in a covert time-space program under DARPA that would operate in tandem with the overt space program under NASA, with gifted and talented children from childhood, the US government might create an adult cadre, an adult group of chrononauts capable of dealing with psychological effects of time travel, in one time probe in the future, undertaken by Project Pegasus, from a chronovisor device located at ITT Defense Communications in Nutley, New Jersey.
Speaker 4:Mr Bishago viewed the US Supreme Court building in Washington DC as it was in the year 2013. During this probe, he found the Supreme Court underwater. I went over this already and that's when they decided that they found it underwater and he reported this to the lieutenant commander from the Office of Naval Intelligence, who debriefed him after the probe to the future, after all that was completed. He hastens to add that, because of the coronavirus, didn't identify absolute deterministic futures, but rather alternate futures in the multiverse, this catastrophic vision of Washington DC. The teleporters developed by Project Pegasus allowed for physical teleportation to distant locations, sometimes with an adjustment forward or backwards in time of days, weeks, months or years.
Speaker 4:According to Basiago, in 1972, the US government was using quantum displacement of this kind to send both people forward in time several years to store sensitive military secrets in the future and backwards in time several years to revive the government with current intelligence about future events. Now something else that I want to bring up. So he mentions at one point in an interview with Coast to Coast. He mentions that he talks to a lot of fans and that they all believe in what he's talking about. He talks with one fan who he actually fucking worked with, which is wild to me. I'm going to get into some more information on that. Where is it? I had it fucking stored around here somewhere.
Speaker 5:Oh what a name.
Speaker 4:Fuck, hang on, give me one second, give me one second, one second. So he's got some information here, and so he mentions working with a man named Brett Stillings. Stillings knew that everything that he was talking about was true and this is why this is a quote from his Coast to Coast interview.
Speaker 4:He knew I was telling the truth when I appeared on your show because, as a non-physicist, I described the fact that the crystal array inside the chronovisors was generating the hologram of past and future events was made of bismuth, and Brett described how bismuth has special properties and an atomic number of 83. It has a complete proton shell, hence would facilitate the lensing effect involving bringing past and future events into the time laboratory that I described um. He also stated that that's kind of um. 83 is kind of a magic number because when you begin to add 32 to 83 in codemem, you reach elements that have unusual properties. So if you add 32 to 83, you get element 115, which is what Robert Lazar talked about back in 1989 with George Knapp. Robert Lazar, yes, he talked about this in 1989 with George Knapp and they agreed during this interview.
Speaker 5:They agreed during this interview. You're really here for this. They agreed during this interview.
Speaker 4:They agreed during this interview that they affirmed that the statements by Robert Lazar about the unusual properties of element 115 is correct.
Speaker 3:Hold on.
Speaker 4:Everything is right there in the transquantum series of elements. This is all back to Project Serpo.
Speaker 5:This's the same. This is the same fucking dude.
Speaker 4:For those of you, for those of you that don't know much about robert lazar, let me tell you a little thing about him. What the fuck is happening? My robin lozavall.
Speaker 4:Robert lazar is an american conspiracy theorist. In 1989, lazar claimed to have been a part of a classified US government project concerned with the reverse engineering of extraterrestrial technology. He basically says that he worked on Area 51 and he discovered an element called Element 115. Now this is taken from an article that I found online is atomic numbers 113, 115, 117, 118 were all basically announced in the International Union of Pure Applied Chemistry. They announced that the addition of these four elements into the periodic table One of them, and this is during like 2012. This is relatively recent.
Speaker 4:One of them, though that atomic number 115 was already announced in 1989 with Robert Lazar, who again was famous Area 51 whistleblower. He revealed to the public that the UFOs possessed by the US government were powered by a mysterious Element 115. And at that time, the claims made by Lazar were tagged as absurd at the scientific community and they had no knowledge of an Element 115. Until 2003, that's when they discovered these different elements. It wasn't until 2012 that a lot of this other shit was posted about it, but in 2003, his statements gained more credibility when a group of Russian scientists managed to create the elusive element, and now we were able to tweak it a little bit, we found out that it is a real element, something that we can create. The only downside is that the element that we created is different from the element that he talked about, mostly because the element that we have is a radioactive element that decays in less than a second and it's basically useless. It can't be utilized for anything, especially not a fuel source. So they were able to confirm that this bismuth that they used used a same type of quality that this Element 115 did. They just used it in a different way to be able to project the past and the present through these chrono visors.
Speaker 4:Now here's another little bit I want to bring up. This is from Andrew Bishago himself to a Facebook group called Project Pegasus, the time travel group of Andrew D Bishago. I have an important discovery to share. Wynne Keech has uncovered Mike's going to figure it out for you Wynne Keech has uncovered facts proving my claim that the node of the coronavirus developed by.
Speaker 4:DARPA's Project Pegasus was an eight-sided bismuth crystal that my father, raymond F Bishago, was responsible for development by which chronovision was made possible, and that there was a link between the chronovisor and physicist, dr Enrico Fermi. I knew of my father's 1962 US patent related to the Hall effect, but not a citation in a 1967 US patent related to eight-sided bismuth crystals, which I've stated in all my public lectures about the advent of time travel was a component in the chrono virus, a chrono viruses that propagated the space time hologram that allowed non local events to be lensed into the laboratory. As explained by me and by my father in 1971, I began visiting past events via the chrono visor at Morris, morristown, new Jersey. The truth marches on and, as God is my witness, the future shall absolve me. Oi, as God is my witness, the future shall absolve me. Yeah, what do you guys think?
Speaker 5:That was a lot, my guy, that was a lot.
Speaker 3:I don't understand what any of that had to do with anything. I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 4:I wanted to bring it up because it helped describe how the chronovisors worked.
Speaker 5:Oh great, Mike basically just gave us the deep sixth intel about how these time travel VR pros work, and this is what nobody wants us to hear, Bismuth. But also I still don't understand how they work.
Speaker 2:I don't think. Mike understands how they work. I don't think I can understand how they work.
Speaker 4:It's using bismuth which has a proton shell because of its atomic number.
Speaker 3:Where they were like oh this is 83, but this is 32, so let's fucking add them together and you get 115. I fucking hate when conspiracy theories start doing that type of shit. See, if you add these two numbers together, they make another fucking number. This is how we get the doing that type of shit. See, if you add these two numbers together they make another fucking number.
Speaker 5:How about that? This is how we get the fucking giant ice ball bullshit where, oh, there's flat Earth, but some people think it's round, let's just put thousands of the flat.
Speaker 3:Earths on a ball. People are just so stupid that when they accidentally figure out how to do math. They think it has some sort of significance.
Speaker 1:Here's another little tidbit just something silly that I want to bring up just to cap end it, something that I think no just something silly.
Speaker 2:I'm not even drinking.
Speaker 4:So, um, just like. So Andy mentioned before that he was chosen among other gifted and bright school children, um, for his talents and, uh, his intellect and things like that. What's funny enough and I think we mentioned this before he goes on to say that he was actually chosen because the CIA from the future, like our time I heard the duck, but I'm going to keep going. He was the CIA from, like our time had intel that he was going to tell the story of Project Pegasus. So they already knew that Andrew Bishago was going to reveal to the world about Project Pegasus and all of its technological advancements, and they wanted to make sure that that happens. So they sent back information to the past, to Andy's dad, to tell his dad your son is going to be in this project because he already is basically a whistleblower in the future, and we like that shit, so thought that was interesting.
Speaker 3:But again, that would have no effect on the current timeline. So what's?
Speaker 5:the fucking point Correct, let's play the fun game. It's great that we're figuring out things that work in other timelines except for ours.
Speaker 3:Yeah, all this seems like a completely moot point.
Speaker 2:Wait, hold on. I think you might get something interesting. Yogurt tastes like Coca-Cola in the other timeline.
Speaker 4:Let's cap this off with a final real or fake boys. I'm gonna pass this to each of you and you tell me if you think it's real or fake. Matt, what do you think?
Speaker 3:I think the headache I have now is very real. So you think it's real awesome. That's good to know um jason.
Speaker 4:what do you think? It's real Awesome. That's good to know. Jason, what do you think?
Speaker 5:I think he has convinced himself. This is real. And what is reality if not what you perceive it to be?
Speaker 3:That's fair enough, I guess.
Speaker 4:Doug, what do you think?
Speaker 2:Fake.
Speaker 4:As fuck. I am still an open minded skeptic on this one, and here's why he has the funniest. Just stop. He's got the opportunity to do the funniest thing, and if he becomes elected president?
Speaker 3:I am going to laugh.
Speaker 4:I'm keeping an open mind until 2028.
Speaker 3:Because if he doesn't become president. That's hilarious. I'll donate $1,000 to his campaign if he gets elected. Well, I guess he would already get elected.
Speaker 5:I'm voting for Andrew Bishago.
Speaker 2:If he runs.
Speaker 3:I'll vote for him If he becomes a major party candidate, I will donate $1,000 to his campaign. There you go.
Speaker 4:I'm holding out an open mind until 2028, and if he gets elected, that is going to be the best fucking shit.
Speaker 5:We're his social manager. We're in control of all of his public imagery.
Speaker 4:Yep. Well, with all that being said, nobody fucking else is. With all that being said, I'm is. With all that being said, I'm gonna cap this off by just saying I've said capped off too many times. I'm gonna end this. But you have, patreoncom is usually when you end. Yeah, okay thank you patreoncom.
Speaker 4:Slash dilly pod. Go fuck yourself, doug, for interrupting me. Delunycom, go become a member of those things. Um. Follow us on any social media. We're fucking everywhere. It's's either DelutyPod or don't. Look under the internet and do that. Send us an email at DelutyPod at gmailcom. Go kiss a guy on the street because he might be a time traveler, so he can go back in time and tell you that you're going to kiss a guy in the future.
Speaker 5:He can tell people in the future how people in the past kiss.
Speaker 4:Exactly, especially in the multiverse. Uh matt, what do you got to say for people?
Speaker 3:if you've made it this far. I want, I just want you to say that in the comments on spotify or the comments- on youtube say that I made it this far just say, I made it this far, I just want far I just want to see how many people did it and who you are Say. I made it this far and just leave a little blurb about yourself, something about who you are.
Speaker 4:They're not magic rocks. People in the Discord. It's bismuth, you fuckwads. It's got chemical atomic number stuff. It's the same shit man.
Speaker 3:It's got a proton shell. Oh my god, You've got a proton shell.
Speaker 2:Oh my God.
Speaker 4:You've got a proton shell. Most things do, Mike. Jason, what do?
Speaker 5:you got Fucking be paranoid. If you see a child pop up in your timeline that isn't supposed to be there. Just fucking kill them. That's just an easy way to fix all of this.
Speaker 2:We don't condone children.
Speaker 5:No, especially ones that don't fucking belong here.
Speaker 1:That's all I got.
Speaker 4:Can you top that, Doug?
Speaker 2:Man Awesome.
Speaker 4:All right everyone.
Speaker 2:That's it. That's it. We're done here. Goodbye everybody. I love you. Thank you for listening to me talk about a lunatic for fucking. That's it. We're done here. Goodbye everybody.
Speaker 4:I love you. Thank you for listening to me Talk about a lunatic for fucking almost two hours.
Speaker 5:We love these episodes. You unhinged is one of the best things that I. These are my favorite.
Speaker 4:These are my favorite episodes. I love these weird conspiracy ones so fucking much.
Speaker 5:Same Bye everybody, love you guys.
Speaker 3:Thank you for sticking, sticking around. Please don't hate us, don't look under the internet.
