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DLUTI 189 - Weird New Age Religion Websites: Part 2

Don't Look Under the Internet Season 1 Episode 189

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Speaker 2:

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Speaker 3:

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Speaker 3:

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Speaker 2:

Brown Cow.

Speaker 3:

Hello everyone. God is great I hate this okay, nope hello, everyone hello and welcome hello to don't look under the internet, your spiritual guide to bullshittery and stupidity.

Speaker 5:

It's a very special ASMR episode we get nice and personal with you.

Speaker 3:

This right next to me is Jason. Hello, over there in other place land is Matt.

Speaker 2:

Greetings. I'd rather be playing Oblivion.

Speaker 3:

And over there in another other place, land is Doug hey there.

Speaker 4:

All you listeners.

Speaker 3:

Today, on our journey, we go back to the energetic synthesis cult. And why?

Speaker 4:

talking like this is.

Speaker 2:

I got to take this hood off for a while we got to say, allegedly now, because while it is our opinion that it is a cult apparent, we don't want to make ourselves targets of what we'll talk about later.

Speaker 5:

Yep, it is not yet on the National Cult Watch.

Speaker 3:

So this is part two of Energetic Synthesis. And, oh boy, I Can you put me on suicide watching. What's the number, what's the suicide? I? Think I have to. No, so legally we don't have any housekeeping other than me. You know, housekeeping for today is to prepare yourself, take a deep breath and ascend. Get ready to ascend your ass off.

Speaker 4:

Get ready to put a shield up. You know, defend yourself from the negative aliens.

Speaker 3:

We're going to get into part two, so let's get into it. Which one of you guys is starting? Not me.

Speaker 4:

So, to give a brief summary of last week, we talked about the ES system essentially and what it is and how that came to be. Kind of I'm not going to re-explain it because I still am not sure what it is, but I'm going to cover how we can practice it, how we can put it from paper to still on paper, if you will. So I'm covering a website called the Crystal Aegis and this is the spiritual support system developed by Lisa Renee as part of the energetic synthesis framework. It's designed to assist individuals in overcoming negative thought patterns, emotional imbalances and addictive behaviors by fostering personal sovereignty and spiritual alignment. Esf or whatever it is, if you will. Esf or whatever it is, if you will.

Speaker 4:

So there are five basic steps to actually putting this into practice, and step one is the agreement and the request for intercession. And if you were going to do this, it might sound something like I, mike Allen, choose fully the authority of God's law and that which serves the light of truth. I commit to my healing and request guardian intercession on my behalf to restore the correct proportions of my manifestation body to the eternal, perpetual supply of the god source. Sorry, I heard I?

Speaker 3:

I heard a ghost, and then I heard you saying I'm God and I got back into it. So apologies, I missed a little bit of that. But did you whisper or something?

Speaker 5:

No, I have thought about hiding a whisper machine Inside your headphones, but I Well, I took them off and I just hear like From like right where you're at.

Speaker 3:

That's why I look at you funny. Sorry, go ahead. That was great, that was spooky.

Speaker 4:

Good, good, good yeah. So just cut me off mid already. Sorry, go ahead. That was great, that was spooky. Good, good, good, good, good, good, good yeah. So just cut me off mid in that I'll just go on to the second step, which is the activation of the 12D shield, or what you could be called the preparing the foundation.

Speaker 2:

How about a drawing? Can you get us a drawing? That was an accident. Why Time the?

Speaker 3:

preparing the foundation. Can you get us a drawing? That was an accident what.

Speaker 4:

Time Did this? The fucking wire cut? Hit that or something? Oh, he accidentally bumped it with his arm.

Speaker 4:

I bumped it with my arm, sorry, no, it's all good. That was actually a pretty funny spot for that, anyways. So step two is preparing the foundation. This is authentically declaring your intention from your heart to resolve authority issues. This actually all kind of stems back to what matt was talking about last episode, about how they have kind of taken those people who are in a bad situation or in a bad mental state and they're now prying on those people. So this is very culty in itself because, hey, like they're basically saying, hey, we can help you, not feel like shit, do our thing, anyways.

Speaker 4:

So again still on step two, you got to activate your inner spirit and your core shield and then, from within your 12D shield, you're going to create a hub, handshake, yeah, yeah, sick. And then I guess what the God sovereign free thing is is. They call that the boundary test. So this is all step two. It sounds like a lot more steps than just step two, but I promise you it's just step two. Steps than just step two, but I promise you it's just step two. Um, and then we go to step three, which is discernment, or turning your feelings, uh, or tune tuning your feelings to discern whether the guidance that you're getting is truly aligned with your higher self, and this actually is going to kind of play into the like negative energies and the negative aliens and all that shit. So step three would basically be, uh, essentially declaring your intentions and then, when those intentions come to you, figuring out or judging if they're truly positive or not, which okay, um and then you're gonna start clear, clearing your negative attachments.

Speaker 4:

Uh, so you're right, you, you gotta practice daily and you gotta regularly cleanse your energy field and release any and all emotional energy blockages which could be those pesky negative aliens. You know what I'm saying. So you gotta make sure you're calibrating your 12d shield for removal of your crux implant. Uh-huh, yep, I'm not going to define that any further for you you don't know.

Speaker 5:

I think I've been told that seven or eight times in my life. It's, it's fine.

Speaker 4:

We all know what it means and last but not least, you must surrender and trust. You must surrender your higher self and allow divine guidance to lead the way. You have to build integrity in your spiritual house.

Speaker 5:

Okay, you have to commit by saying you're saying that, oh god, yeah, okay, so you got to build integrity, you know.

Speaker 4:

You got to make sure that the right, the right beings, are leading you to where you need to be. All right. So let's talk about negative ego a little bit. We've touched on it, but the negative ego is a big portion of the crystal aegis. So the negative ego isn't just a collection of bad habits or insecurities. It's portrayed as a weaponized false identity. All right, it's a spiritual parasite that has been deliberately engineered to keep humans disconnected from their true divine essence. So, according to Lisa, basically we're all pre-programmed to not remember, right To not be our divine beings. Apparently, we're all divine beings, but we're just our lowly human piece of shit selves right now, and that's what this helps you do. You were a piece of shit and now you're no longer a piece of shit. You just gotta follow the. You gotta follow the steps to not be a piece of shit anymore. Okay, follow the not a piece of shit steps.

Speaker 4:

So, um, the negative ego is not natural and it's actually the result of artificial energetic implants and mind control agendas.

Speaker 4:

Yes, this is literally what she calls it.

Speaker 4:

So it's described as being programmed to generate fear, judgment, control and separation, and it behaves almost like an independent entity acting with a kind of mission directive to block your spiritual growth and keep people locked into a lower vibrational state, which you've heard that term already, um, which she refers to the 3d uh as the 3d mind matrix.

Speaker 4:

And the wild part is, um that she suggests that this ego structure was actually introduced by negative alien groups and it's their long-standing agenda to enslave the humanity by basically distorting our perception of self and reality. So, um, it works like an internal uh like saboteur and constantly reinforces shame, guilt, fear and um comparison and all that stuff, that, those internal feelings that you feel that you're like man, I'm not worth it, blah, blah, blah, I'm jealous of this, and that it's almost like the the seven cents. So, um, in short, uh, they basically are saying that you're fighting your bad thoughts. And then you know, in this spiritual world, um, with this built-in psychic thing, you need to make sure that you practice every day to dismantling your ego, and it's not really a self-improvement thing. She literally wants you to unplug a parasitic, fake parasitic force from your brain Via evolution somehow.

Speaker 5:

Has RFK listened to this?

Speaker 4:

This is where he got the parasitic yeah, he'd be all up in there and you guys have probably heard this a bunch. But the God self this is mentioned a lot in this and the idea that fear and control are weapons of this negative ego which blocks the God self. It's considered the part of you that's connected to the source and you're going to hear the source a lot the universal consciousness or the divine, all the same thing. God self, uh, the source, uh, even when they mentioned God, I'm not even sure that they're referring to God as God. You know what I'm saying. They're. They're referring to this interconnected web that of collected spiritual energy.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, so there are some tools for ego exorcism that I mentioned before, and these are like, uh, these could be daily disciplines or you know, I guess a sci-fi fucking ritual or something. But, um, the outline basically elaborates that, uh, if you do these practices and all of this stuff, um, you'll, you'll be cleansed right and you'll become divine. So one of the things that I'm gonna go over is the d 12, or the d 12, the 12 d calibration. Mike, do you, do you have a moment? Roll for damage yeah, roll for shields. Um, mike, uh, do you have a moment? Roll for damage? Yeah, roll for shields. Mike, do you have a moment? Can you help me out? I feel like, do you want to calculate your 12 Ds? Yeah, let's do this.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, fuck it, I don't have much going for me, right now You've only got 12 of them, 12 Ds nuts. It's pretty simple. I'm sure you can do it.

Speaker 4:

Let's do it. All right, mike. So you're, you're about to initiate hell yeah, your 12d calibration. All right, I want you to be, I want you to think, I want to close your eyes, maybe, and I, I guess you need to ground yourself. All right, I need you to get grounded and centered. Go to your room. I need you to clear your third eye. All right, my mind palace go to your yeah, go to your happy place.

Speaker 4:

Alright, are you ready? Are you grounded? You're grounded, mister. Okay, step one we need to activate your internal pillar of light. That's the first step. I want you to picture it. It's like a.

Speaker 5:

It's in your elbow.

Speaker 4:

That's sick. It's just a big pillar of light, alright, and it's imagine a big ass lightsaber. Okay, it's like a silvery white light.

Speaker 5:

Okay, you got that in your head.

Speaker 4:

Do you see it? Yes, I see it. Alright, now I need you to spiral your consciousness to the 12th dimension.

Speaker 5:

Uzumaki's up there if you need it.

Speaker 3:

Can you elaborate on what that means?

Speaker 4:

No, Absolutely not.

Speaker 3:

Spiral my consciousness to the 12th.

Speaker 4:

I can't have you landing at the 11th dimension. It has to be the 12th.

Speaker 5:

Remember, your brain works in 21 dimensions, so you can get there.

Speaker 4:

Once your elevator hits that, let me know.

Speaker 3:

Maybe I do need that physical manifestation. I'm going to picture an elevator going to the 12th floor.

Speaker 2:

If you get stuck in there, bust the telephone out Going up the pillar to the 12th floor of the pillar.

Speaker 4:

Just make sure you activate it Now. While this is happening, you need to be judging whether the information that you're seeing is truth or negative energy aliens.

Speaker 4:

I thought I was just seeing make sure, make sure that's fine, but make sure that the way you're feeling is true to yourself. Okay, so now that you're there, visualize that your shield is up a bubble of light, if you will, and a sacred space where bad vibes cannot enter. Okay, let me know when you're done. I'm okay, I'm there, I got you. I got you. You got it. What? What's your bubble look like? What's your sacred?

Speaker 3:

space. So my sacred space is I is. It's kind of like a beach, um okay, and it's got a nice hammock is it on quartz sands, like the holiday inn in florida? It is very. It is like it is very nice. Sands like white sands, and um, and there's a hammock, um, it's not like a super hot day. It's nice, it's clouded, so there's some nice shade too like low 70s breezy yeah, yeah, it's like.

Speaker 3:

It's like low to mid 70s and breezy. Um, all right, are you feeling good? Do you feel comfortable? Are you feeling I am? I got my shield too. I in my brain. It. It physically came as like a golden shield of light that I'm like holding and it's kind of like wrapping around me a little bit.

Speaker 4:

Okay, Alright. So now that you're there and your shield is up, I need you to repeat after me okay, Okay. I claim my sovereignty as a multidimensional being of light.

Speaker 3:

I claim my sovereignty as a multidimensional being of light.

Speaker 4:

Alright you've been calibrated.

Speaker 3:

Oh, that's it. That's it. Oh, I thought there was a bit more to this. Oh yeah, brother, I expected so much. I kind of set you up for a bit more you know what?

Speaker 4:

That's just one of the exercises, bro. You gotta pay for more, I feel lighter.

Speaker 2:

Calibrated to a lighter dimension.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that's because you've lost several neurons yeah, at least, or brain cells, I'm not really sure well, that was a waste of time it was

Speaker 5:

glad to be.

Speaker 4:

No, no, no, no, you're calibrated now, yeah, that's true yeah, the rest of your day is smooth sailing, my friend um, you know at 8 30 at night so that's just one of the tools for killing your ego or exercising your ego.

Speaker 4:

They might say, um, I won't have mike do all of these, but uh, one of the other tools that you can use is called visualizations. Can you lube up your ego? You, you can. You can jerk your ego just straight off if you want. Um, but yeah, so this one is called visualizations and it's just clearing negative implants. Um, the practice of cleaning a, clearing energetic implants and negative influences that have been attached to your body is critical.

Speaker 4:

Uh, part of your d12 or your oh, my god, I keep calling it your 12d calibration process so how it works is the d20 calibration yeah I know right d100, make it to level 20 um, how it works is you'd basically visualize any unwanted energies and then basically tell yourself or mentally, like remove them using your light energy or your shield. These implants can represent intrusive thoughts, trauma, etc. Basically what normal people do when they don't drive their car off a cliff. It's just like don't do that. You can activate your inner light by just visualizing it. A lot of this is just being like, if you can see it, it's just fucking positive manifestation. Yeah, and you also can connect with some higher dimensional beings. When you're visualizing, you can call upon these higher dimensional beings, um, like archangels, or pleiadians or the melchizel click energy I don't know what that that is but, um, pleiadians, I know that's a word. I know archangels, I know them. I've heard, heard about them, seen them before. Um, yeah, so these are all things that they say will help you remove your ego.

Speaker 4:

The next one is called the 90-day protocol. This one confuses me because it seems like they've added a, a plan inside of a plan, where they're like the 90-day protocol is designed to be a structured, intensive process that aims to help you break free from old patterns or reprogram your energy field, which is literally just a redundant way of saying follow these steps that we've already been talking about. So there's that. Keep listening to the things we've already said. And one of the last things that the Crystal Aegis has that they have you do is breathwork, which for the cultured people we call that hamon, but breath work is often used to center the mind and body, clear energetic blockages and help focus attention. Meditation, like it's pretty much just, it's like yoga and stuff like that.

Speaker 5:

Is this just JoJo's?

Speaker 4:

Bizarre Adventure I wish man. Here's what I don't understand about the breath work. Where do I wish?

Speaker 2:

man, here's what I don't understand about the breathwork.

Speaker 5:

Where do I get my stand? It's going to sound like it. What's up?

Speaker 2:

Matt, the breathwork section says you need to do it three times a day for 10 minutes or 20 minutes once a day. So you can save 10 minutes if you just do it all at once.

Speaker 5:

Just do it all at once.

Speaker 3:

You're thinking efficient, which is great, but it's not great when you want your G12D Trust the process Matt.

Speaker 5:

Have you ascended?

Speaker 3:

yet Come on Talking like a guy who hasn't ascended yet.

Speaker 4:

So this website is interesting as it acts as almost like the workout plan for just putting all of this ES stuff into practice. Um, if you go to the website, you can click on all the exercises, and the exercises are literally just like the, that classic paragraph of gobbledygook where they just replace keywords with like how to stop hating your wife, or like you know how to get rid of mind control or you know it. Just they just switch out one problem for another and then all the other words are just yeah, pretty much, and they just kind of had to go over all this shit.

Speaker 4:

you know I could spend way, way, way yeah, pretty much, and they just kind of had to go over all this shit. You know I could spend way, way, way, way too long explaining each and every one of these things, but they're all just essentially the same shit.

Speaker 5:

Do they?

Speaker 3:

actually mean anything, Doug.

Speaker 5:

That's for you to decide when you ascend and you do them, and honestly hold that, hold that question in your heart as you're looking at all this shit, because you might come to a revelation about that so one of the other things I want to mention, too, is that the tools on the site are essentially just.

Speaker 4:

If you look through, enough of it just bring you back to all of the other websites that we've already talked about and all of the things that we've already. Everything brings you back to one another because they just want you.

Speaker 5:

They never want you to leave their little bubble right, it's self contained information and echo chamber as you will.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, and man you know they have audio files which lead you to the, the ES foundation stuff, but again, some of the stuff you have to be a member for, so we can't access it because we're not that cool and you can't be a member unless somebody who is a member has invited you to be a member.

Speaker 5:

Weird right.

Speaker 2:

Can I go to a meeting in somebody's basement where they show me a dildo and then they sell me this? It'll?

Speaker 4:

probably be a little worse, but yeah it does sound like new year's, you're right.

Speaker 4:

so I was trying to think of, like how how can I see someone who supports this belief system, right? So I went to youtube and I just searched crystal aegis and I got one guy and his shit is just as weird and crazy as reading any of this on the website is. But he had a link to another guy called the fucking intergalactic historian, or not, sorry, the galactic historian, and I I'm not going gonna go fully into this, but I like this guy is crazy too, like I could.

Speaker 4:

the way that all of this is interconnected is kind of wild and all these people just start, they just talk and they just bullshit through their teeth and it is the craziest thing I've ever seen. Like I didn't know there was this many groups of people out there. I should have assumed that's ignorant on my end, but like I don't know how this all connects to each other, but somehow they do, because this guy is preaching Crystal Aegis and also promoting the Galactic Historian who kind of does the same stuff but on their website and it's just all a bunch of crazy. And I could, I literally I cut so much out of things that I was going to talk about. But uh, don't worry, I think most of my stuff has summed up exactly what you can uh assume. Um, you'll get out of trying to practice.

Speaker 5:

These types of spiritual healings are kind of like so Andrew Barthes is intergalactic historian right, barthes, yeah, yep yeah, everything in pretty much all the sites that we've talked about up until now all interconnect, they all overlap when it comes to definitions, basic understandings, etc. Etc. Doug, were you all done with your fuck?

Speaker 4:

yeah, yeah that's all I got are you all done with your?

Speaker 5:

that fuck. I think that summarized it.

Speaker 3:

I did just see that there is a conference August 9th to the 10th for $600.

Speaker 4:

I think that summarizes it. Yeah, I did just see that there is a conference August 9th to the 10th for $600, or you can buy the retreat package for $2,000. All right, if you want to get in on it, guys, I bet it's got nothing on the return to Atlantis con Probably not Fucking the holiday.

Speaker 3:

However, that screams fire festival for insane people. Atlantis con, probably this fucking the holiday. However, that screams fire festival for insane people. Patrons, if you see your pledge go up by like 200% for one month total, and that's it think of it as a tariff, yeah it's just fallout from tariffs, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 5:

And then if you see a pictures of all of us at a conference that has unrelated, okay, cool. Well, if we're done with the crystal ages website Tariffs, I'm so sorry. And then if you see pictures of all of us at a conference that is unrelated, okay cool. Well, if we're done with the Crystal Ages website, you guys want to move on to, honestly, what I kind of think is the tying website between all of this. It goes over pretty much. It touches on everything that we've talked about so far, but in a little bit more detail.

Speaker 3:

I have a feeling if I say no, it doesn't matter, I'm just gonna light you on fire, okay?

Speaker 5:

um, so we're gonna move on to a little website called es foundationscom. Now, es stands for energetic synthesis. Just as you might have expected, um, this website looks incredibly similar to the actual energetic synthesis website that Matt went over.

Speaker 2:

I don't understand why both of these exist.

Speaker 5:

to be perfectly honest with you, I don't know why they both exist either, because you don't really know. There's like a 10% of the core content that's outside of the Venn diagram, and then everything else is just pretty much reiterated.

Speaker 2:

I want to know, if you get a login on one of these sites, if the same login works on the other side.

Speaker 5:

I do too, because the login process is very similar.

Speaker 2:

So, since you brought that up, the first thing I tried to do when I got it. I'm sorry, I was on esfoundationscom and I clicked on login and you have to provide a username, a password what's the question? Please answer the question. What is the third tone of Karayasatala?

Speaker 5:

did you know? The answer is Y-E. No, yay, dude, I went through all this shit so many times.

Speaker 2:

Yes, the question do you got a second cousin's dick to get in here?

Speaker 1:

because, dude, I went through all this shit so many times. Yes, the question is like no sense, wait, do you got to suck your cousin's?

Speaker 4:

dick to get in here, man. My question was just what is one times eight? All right, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Speaker 5:

I think they already they know who has sucked whose dick in this.

Speaker 3:

They went super existential for us. What's two plus two?

Speaker 5:

Questions to think about. So I think this gate this.

Speaker 3:

Uh, you answer five. They let you in with the answer four. You're just doing what the man wants you to think is correct.

Speaker 5:

No, you're not using your mental image man, it's just a hyper aware ai that knows its audience.

Speaker 2:

I guess aliens are trying to tell you um.

Speaker 5:

So anyway, this looks very similar to the energetic synthesis website that matt went over the log. I don't know if the logins work for both, but just like the other website, you need to be invited by a current member in order to gain access to the entirety of this website. Unfortunately I was not able to do. I wish I was um, but you can find the energetic synthesis website. It's actually linked at the very bottom of the page. Most of the things that we've all been talking about all linked to each other in some cyclical fashion, just like we said um.

Speaker 5:

Now, when you go to the es foundationscom just home page, first thing you see is this big welcome page. It says read more, you can learn more about the site. What is this like? Why are you here? If you scroll down a bit, there's like four article links and they read es foundations mission unity, vow law of one, and then cc info or creative commons info. Now what mike maybe realized is they are very, very, very big on the Creative Commons law and what I've realized since we've been talking about this is that's because they want to make absolutely sure that no legal trouble is coming from this in any capacity. Now, if I were starting a movement and the first thing I was worried about is somebody going hey, this might break the law, I might reconsider my foundations for the fucking message I'm delivering.

Speaker 2:

But so what? What protections are they hoping to gain from that? Is it like they? My theory was they're doing that because they're borrowing a lot of this terminology from like other belief systems that have to do with.

Speaker 5:

That's exactly it, and they, they want to be like hey, it's all fair game, because creative commons they basically want to lay a groundwork for making something they're claiming that has been claimed by somebody else in the past is fair game for them to claim and not get sued over it's basically just free use motherfuckers.

Speaker 3:

I also think it's the same as like they're putting that up there thinking you'll read that and think that you don't have a chance to sue them Like for example I used to work for a company I won't disclose which, but I used to work for a company I won't disclose which, but they used to Make one up Clean 86. We'll call it that, and you used to be. They had these rides. You could go on, yeah, and they would make you sign a waiver Before getting on specific ones. Spoiler alert Even if you sign a waiver at an amusement park or something, you can still sue.

Speaker 3:

Waivers don't hold up at a court. They just have you sign the waiver in hopes that you don't sue, because you think that Since you signed a thing saying I give Responsibility, they hope that you will just take that for word. You can take them to the courts anyway. It don't. Who signed a thing saying I give you know, I, I, I it only for responsibility. They hope that you will just take that for word. You can take them to the courts anyway, it don't matter.

Speaker 5:

It depends on the malfunction, but yes, you are correct.

Speaker 2:

I think don't they normally have to prove that whoever? Was operating the ride, knew that this could have happened and put you on it anyway, yep.

Speaker 3:

And yep, and so as long as you can do that, the waiver doesn't matter. Uh, it also doesn't matter. Like, for example, um, where I worked, someone had a big chunk of hair get ripped out from their head from one of the machines and they sued. Because then they're like well, the waiver, and they're like it don't matter, the waiver don't matter, we're going to court, right?

Speaker 5:

it's really, it's a deterrent, that's all it is anyway.

Speaker 2:

Basically, this is the new age spirituality version of putting a sovereign citizen license plate on your car.

Speaker 5:

Yes, they even say it in the fucking lingo, like the whole thing is what God sovereign and free, yeah, like, oh, man, okay. So we all these links, um, and, as I said, the four article links that you look at are to ES Foundation's mission, unityval, law of One and the CC info. So if you click on the ES Foundation's mission, honestly that's where I was drawn, simply because I'm like, if I know their mission, I know what they're about. Right, no, right, no, right. I would be willing to bet with everything that we've learned so far.

Speaker 2:

Nothing explains anything.

Speaker 5:

I'll let you guys tell me how about that. Here is the Ascension mission for ES Foundations To achieve balance, harmony and integration with all aspects of self and live life in order to maximize human potential, which includes more authenticity, love, connection and joy. To become fully soul-embodied and actualized in your highest expression and ultimate destiny, therefore contributing to your creative genius, to the human collective and to our planet. In order to embody the true self and inner core essence, two relationships must be made a priority in order to be forged, developed and remembered into the light source. The two most important relationships that every human being has the responsibility and right to create for themselves are one right relationship to self and two right relationship to God's source slash, universe.

Speaker 5:

Many people will be removed from destructive or stagnant relationships in order to pursue these two most important relationships. Once these two relationships are clarified and embodied with devotion, a new relationship, vibrationally matched to your new ascending self, will emerge. Now there's a lot to unpack here, just simply because this is their mission. In their mission, it basically tells you you will be removed from your relationships To people that you think you should have. Yikes, that, that's not great. That is not a great thing to hear.

Speaker 2:

Um, it's before you've been knowing anything about cult right separate people from their support structure separate?

Speaker 5:

yeah, abso-fucking-lutely, that's what they're doing. They're trying to separate you from your current social structures that both you and them currently believe are failing you for some reason or another. So you're both on the same page on that Cool Check that box.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it says that you'll be removed from destructive or stagnant relationships, but I guarantee you that that depends on what their opinion is rather than I want to know the definition of those words in context of this sentence Right there, your mom.

Speaker 5:

That is what I want to know. Yeah, exactly they can. They can. This sentence right there, your mom. That is what I don't know. Yeah, exactly they can, they can. It's basically like saying uh, it's like the word terrorist, like you can fucking fit anybody to that mold it's the abuse they're doing here.

Speaker 2:

Thing right, yeah, 100. Yeah, your friends are bad and you should only you should not right. I'm the only person that knows what they're talking about, and trust in me several times and nobody else is part of your support structure has your best ascension ascension, yeah, um, so after this, actually a couple places on this home page and I'm going to address this now we get a uh like a see more.

Speaker 5:

And then there's, there's a couple links after oh, excuse me, there's a couple links after it. And the first one so the ones that are there say Guardian Mission Statement Full Disclosure Event, and when Can I Start? So initially I was going to go to the About Me page or the About Us page and start talking about that, to give us kind of like a heads up on what we're talking about. But oh, you know, it's all right here, just follow it in order. Um, so I did notice. The very last one says where can I start? The very last one that I mentioned said where can I start? Um, that's actually on purpose, I'm almost positive. The first one we're going to go into is the Guardian mission statement, supplying informational context on ascension dynamics and exopolitic ET agendas and re-educating both human and non-humans to be congruently aligned to the universal law of one.

Speaker 5:

This is exactly the same as the thing that's on the other website, and this is why I am 100% convinced that this was mostly written by some kind of AI or some kind of memory algorithm program well, I think they're just copying and pasting the same content on different websites. So like what, yeah, why does there need changing a?

Speaker 2:

word sites where you just copy and paste every because it's a funnel matt.

Speaker 4:

It all follows you the same conclusion, which might be indicative of a certain type of organization that might be registered on a national basis anyway yeah, I actually just found another website and I don't know if it's run by Lisa Renee personally or whatever, but like there's a, it's called the crystal star center. Yeah, it's actually just a fucking a French version a French version of it. Of all these websites, yeah, and then there's the Temple of the Crystal. It's just there's different ones for like different languages and stuff it's getting fucking nuts.

Speaker 5:

I wonder if this is like attempting to be a new mainstream religion.

Speaker 4:

I'm on like the fifth page of Google just seeing like what's in there for this shit.

Speaker 5:

That's when you know you're, uh, you're desperate, um, so anyway, uh, okay, last little bit uh, freedom, fraternity and the sovereign right of all beings to be a knower of god source is protected by the collective unity vow shared among our universal guardian groups. And so that's pretty much everything that's on the uh do, do, do, do, do the guardian mission statement page. There's a couple other things you can look at. There's some more links. Most of these words are linked to other terms that you can go look up and it takes you right back to the Ascension glossary that Mike was talking about, where it basically is. That's basically like the boiler boilerplate site to go look at to understand any of the things that we're talking about.

Speaker 5:

You will be constantly referencing that site and it will be referencing itself sometimes, and it will be, and you will not understand any of it. You just think you'll read a bunch of words and be more confused. So the next, the next thing you can click on, is called full disclosure event. Now, a full disclosure event refers to the highest level of extraterrestrial disclosure, to Earthlings that reveal the most detailed scenarios of our true, hidden, extraterrestrial human galactic history, and not the manipulated, negative alien archetype version of the archontic deception strategy used to control the mainstream historical records to enslave the human population since get ready for this the sumerian egypt invasion oh shit now I know, that's that thing that was talked about in the reptilian chart.

Speaker 5:

Yes, earlier oh yeah, and honestly, you'll find this event in most history books, um, it's just labeled as something very, very different. Um, most history books go over this as the like, an unknown event, and right after this is when egyptian, uh, sumerian, mesopotamian technology Like explodes. And so, looking back on history, when you look at this Event, you don't know what you're talking about. It looks Very convincing, but if you Do know what you're talking about, it's just kind of Looks very convincing it also might look very Very convincing.

Speaker 5:

It's maybe Humans we brief beyond just Knowing about the existence of extraterrestrial Races, crafts and cooperative agreements made with earthly world governments. Additionally, humans will be re-educated. That's an important word, word again Re-educated. Fuck, where'd it go?

Speaker 3:

So much gobbledygook.

Speaker 5:

There's so many giant words here, it's fucking crazy. Existence of extra crafts, cooperative agreements Okay, humans would be re-educated to know about the negative alien agenda groups, secret space programs, human trafficking, mind control, transhumanism and AI agendas. Dna and genetic manipulation Programs on on and off Planet. How earth Human resources and technology are being used as bartering To trade for a variety of off planet Civilizations and extraterrestrial Species. Full disclosure event includes Revealing the power elite groups and negative aliens that have abused power on Earth and are required to restore energetic balance to make amends with the crimes they have made against humanity. You guys understand any of that? Full disclosure event Reeducation.

Speaker 5:

Basically it says Aliens aliens you don't know anything here we're gonna, we're gonna tell you all the things you don't know.

Speaker 2:

Right, that's how vague this term is well it's, it's forget everything that you've learned because you've been lied to right. It's like, basically, it's saying that everything reject the evidence of your eyes and ears right, exactly so that we can set the foundation of reality for you exactly.

Speaker 5:

Oh my god, yes, the xes member, that's a great post. Um, anyway, do, do, do, do, do so after we look at the uh, um, these first two links, um, the last one. So we got guardian mission statement full disclosure event. The last one, which is the weirdest place to put this, is where can I start? And so here is what I'm going to say. If you guys have questions, please stop.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I know I'm not going to be able to because it will never progress. I am ready for it, though I'm not.

Speaker 5:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

I've lost my mind, and so where can I start, mike?

Speaker 5:

You're actually the only equipped member here. Oh yeah, because I am 12D shield or whatever. Activate your 12D shield.

Speaker 5:

Now again the foundation technique suggested again, if you guys forgot Mantra Again. This is the foundation technique suggested to use as a protective energy shield to strengthen and grow your light body, to build the base mahar maharatra, mahar maharatra shield of the crystals and to utilize before doing any other types of spiritual healing energy work or mod. The 12D shield is an organic part of an angelic human being's light body that is connected to the inner crystals template, which can be repaired, activated and used when using the inner focusing technique to build the 12D shield and ignite the GSF three-hold founder flame. Simple, right, sure, yeah, so just do that real quick. So we're preparing. Activate your 12d shield blank right now. Okay, cool, done, and you do this as a daily practice meditation for increasing your unity. You're also going to clear any negative ego, fear programs and devote practice to stop using emotional manipulation. That's actually not a bad one. Mental discipline through devoted now, moment, awareness and using meditation to expand consciousness. It's another step here.

Speaker 2:

Isn't this the same thing I read earlier from the weird right. Weird how your website and my website look the same thing.

Speaker 5:

I read earlier from the it weird right Weird how your website and my website look the same, but different colors.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 5:

So at this point you should probably feel some similarities between the two sites. It's essentially telling you the same shit. There's a couple other things. Say what you mean when you say find a daily spiritual practice, such as es, core, triad, daily techniques, and um, a big one is educate yourself. You have to clear negative ego and mind control from your system, and there's this whole powerpoint slide that tells you exactly how to do this. Um, it tells you how to discern different impulses within yourself to avoid even having them. It's a whole thing.

Speaker 2:

And then you can go back to my website and you can buy courses or meditations about how to do it.

Speaker 5:

Almost positive that those courses just use the PowerPoints I'm looking at. If we're being honest. The next one says refocus your mind. The antidote to mind control is psycho-emotional centering. So center yourself emotionally and mentally, refocus your mind, and then we have an inquiry on attention. Basically, what is your priority in life? Have some self-awareness, take inventory of your thoughts and classify them and then put them into two categories. One is superior thinking, which is through the form of intolerance, impatience, arrogance, manipulation, attack, anger and judgmental thinking. By the way, that's all superior. Inferior is worry, low self-love or esteem, jealousy, guilt, hurt, fear, attachment or martyrdom. So now that we have this, this mental structure to guide your thoughts and put them into two different classifications, it's gonna ask you what your beliefs are and it's gonna go over the the guidelines of the first triad of evolution phase. Now, what you want to do? Ask and inquire on the way of your soul and its purpose.

Speaker 2:

You got that, mike no we are, we are 47 minutes into this already, so oh I know I'm I'm cutting this way quicker, I lost my mind after part one oh, I know I don't think I'm going to recoup for the rest of the night.

Speaker 5:

So the rest of this has to do with a combination of elements, whether it comes to negative ego, gsf 12 D shields the law of one emotional pain, chakra centers, centers, unconscious minds, instinctual minds, conscious minds, and then insert a bunch of religious stereotypes. That's kind of what we're looking at here.

Speaker 4:

Um, I mentioned the kundalini a couple more times, but hoi kundalini lingui this is still give me the form mioli this is still the fucking mission page.

Speaker 5:

God, I have not clicked another link yet. This is still the mission page, where all this information comes from. So this is a plethora of information. If you are interested in this, you guys still with me. Great cause, we are gonna move right on to something called the unity vow. Now, mike, you still have your 12d shield up right? Please, god, tell me you have it up. Uh, do we have to do this whole episode over again?

Speaker 4:

no, it's there. It's there. Okay, all right, let me bust out the guideline again. Don't give me my mantra quick, run it back.

Speaker 5:

So this Unity vow From within your 12D shield, you are supposed to create the hub handshake with the Unity vow. Great, that's the hub handshake. Here's how it goes. Do you guys want to hear the vow? This might sound very familiar.

Speaker 3:

Is this the same vow very familiar.

Speaker 5:

Defenders of truth, sovereignty and liberation, guardian families serving the one Yep. Hey look, they relabeled it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I didn't read this. This wasn't me.

Speaker 5:

We've heard this and this has been labeled.

Speaker 3:

I read it at the end You're confusing yourself with me and yourself with me and yourself.

Speaker 5:

It's cyclical everybody confuses this, because everybody, I'm sure, read this and it's the exact same vow. I don't know if this is longer or shorter, but it's the exact same fucking vow on this page, on matt's page.

Speaker 4:

That's what I was saying they're all just the same shit. They just put the keyword out and they change it with a new keyword.

Speaker 5:

And for some reason, a lot of people have latched onto this. So I'm going to go ahead and skip the entirety of this Unity message, because we don't need to hear it again. I'm going to go right on to the Law of One. I've already covered the Law of One. I know, isn't it great we're good there. Here we are right back to it. I'm making your day so easy. Do you have any questions about the law of one?

Speaker 3:

what? Who's the god? Is it law of one? But then in the law of one it asks who god is, and then it's the law of one, but then in the law of one it mentions god, who god is go to that. It tells you the law of one weird we never find out a definition for god.

Speaker 5:

Um, I will say, the one of the last sentences you uh, you see in this is unity consciousness is at one with god, and unity consciousness ignites the inner light of christos. We've said that word a couple times. Have we actually given a surefire definition to it? It's God. What is Christos? I'm so glad you asked, mike In January 2013, Krishna.

Speaker 5:

In January 2013,. Our planet has come to the time of the promised return of Christ consciousness and the externalization of the promised return of Christ consciousness and the externalization of the crystal star presence or the cosmic priest, those unity conscious God.

Speaker 2:

It's just God, the sea cook thing is, as Jason reads, I'm like I'm certain that we've heard this before but, I, don't even know where I care, or what section it's in, because it's all. I'm just. I am tying together all the concepts, that we've heard this before, but that I don't even know where I care or what section it's in, because it's all oh, I'm, I'm just.

Speaker 5:

I am tying together all the concepts that we have basically talked about into one like mantra, which is what this whole fucking thing culminates in. Um, so the cosmic christos unity, consciousness is the beginning to how, uh, is the beginning now to rehabilitate the organic timelines for the GSF Ascension timeline made for preserve or preserving human sovereignty on the planet earth? Previously, on dragon busy. Previously, ascension had been thwarted by the unscrupulous groups of negative aliens in the satanic and luciferian gestalts that hijack the planetary logos and ley lines for hidden control of forces to order in order to genetically modify the human beings on the earth as their slaves and underlings.

Speaker 5:

So, yes, everything that we've been talking about thus far is correct. This is just a way for some, some race, some species that is way smarter than we are to tell us that they are way smarter than we are by making us slaves. That's where we're at. Simply put, the law of one is the universal truth that all is one, the truth taught by christ when the proclaimed love your neighbor as you love yourself. We are all direct expressions of the one source, god source. The law of one is an energetic reality as well as a creational covenant with the founder races all for one now you guys know what the phone are.

Speaker 5:

We talking about my hero, yeah, the academia kind, the macadamia nut kind.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah hey, I hear a macadamia nut yeah, you guys know the founder races though.

Speaker 5:

Right, obviously, like I don't think we can talk about this not in this country um, so what are the founder races? Fucking, fucking great question, doug. Thank you for asking it. So the founder races are collectively known as the aura.

Speaker 3:

Go ahead, mike, you got something to say the founder race is George Washington, ben Franklin, the tons, the whites, god, the cock asses, cock asses. So what are?

Speaker 4:

the founder races. God, the cockasses, cockasses.

Speaker 5:

So what are the founder races? These are referred to as the Orphan, which are as described.

Speaker 3:

Okay, I wish this made more sense than it does, but this is the definition of this as, according to the Ascension, you're going over the shit that I decided to skip because it's too much.

Speaker 3:

You want me to just no, no, no, you can do whatever you want. I got no more left guys. No, do what you want. I'm just reiterating. All this was in the Law of One section and I said no, thank you, because there was so much bullshit in there. I was like I can't comprehend that this is one of the small parts that I actually semi-understood.

Speaker 5:

I was like I can't comprehend. This is one of the small parts that I actually like semi understood but also found incredibly interesting once I did understand it. Order are solar, reishi, blue ray. Orders of elohim and orafim that direct support the guardian founder races in the lower harmonic universe and are supporting gsf liberation and the continued spiritual evolution of humanity towards ascension and the law of one none of what you said makes sense, and that's why I didn't dare talk about it.

Speaker 5:

So basically, what this says is that these orders that we actually haven't heard anything about up until right now the emerald order and the solar rishi blue ray order are of these higher beings known as both Orophim and Elohim. You can find both of these words in the Bible that refer to different tiers of angels.

Speaker 4:

Yes, 100% wasn't that in that cult, shit for the cult we talked about for Illinois or Indiana? Or whatever the hell it was oh yeah, it's just a fucking tier system.

Speaker 5:

It's literally pyramid scheme. The book like it's. It's just a fucking tier system. It's, it's literally pyramid scheme. The book like it's that's.

Speaker 5:

That's where we're at right now if I pay a hundred grand I become fucking JC level exactly the only other thing I have to add about this is that the Emerald Order, or if him, have something that we that has been referred to and I actually didn't see too much of this something called Emerald Sun DNA, which says to have up to 48 strands, as opposed to what our 16. I don't remember how many we have what strands of what?

Speaker 2:

I've seen DNA in parenthesis a lot in a bunch of this shit and I am yeah. I don't even know.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah, I saw stuff about DNA and thereesis a lot in a bunch of this shit and I don't even know. I saw stuff about DNA and there was some stuff in the Crystal Aegis about like all these different like shield types and stuff too that I think coincide with that shit.

Speaker 5:

So have fun or don't. Very last thing I'll say about all this. And then I am 100% done. I promise we're going to go right back. The law of one I found again super interesting. The law of one is actually practiced by the advanced races that Promote self responsibility and accountability In our universal time matrix, as a weird way to say.

Speaker 4:

What's an advanced race?

Speaker 1:

Say all the advanced races out loud can you make a tier list?

Speaker 5:

I'm not gonna do that, doug here's for that race tier list let's do a race.

Speaker 4:

Tier list we'll get canceled. Ethan Klein will come for us here's what I'll say.

Speaker 5:

If you scour this website enough, I'm sure you will find a tier list of races.

Speaker 2:

Almost positive, we won't be the first podcast to do a race tier list this month. I guarantee it that's here.

Speaker 4:

Daytona 500 race beautiful race uh daytona makes florida so goddamn busy.

Speaker 5:

Bro got to experience that this year oh, I can imagine, um, I'm all of this to say that, like this, that we're bringing back the. The universal time matrix comes into play here. Um, all this fucking says is that there are races of things that can do things that are more than what we can do and comprehend, and then we don't do that. That's all this says. Do it for Dale, do it for Dale. There are seven practices that you can use and utilize in your daily life to help you on your path to ascension. I'll just briefly touch them. There's unity, consciousness, love yourself, love others, love earth and nature, service to others, consciousness, expansion and responsible co-creation, which sounds pretty cool everything else you kind of responsible co-creation, which sounds pretty cool.

Speaker 2:

Everything else you kind of Responsible co-creation? You would be fucking.

Speaker 5:

Right, that's what I'm saying. Everything else that I tried to look up required a login, and to get a login it requires, as we've said several times, a current indoctrinated member to refer you and a secret question that only you could answer, like what color is my? Underwear, or how many meatballs do you think yeah?

Speaker 4:

What month is December in Jesus? Christ.

Speaker 5:

But that's really, really Like I could go over Some more things. Uh, the.

Speaker 2:

You don't have to.

Speaker 5:

The three weirdest, I'm not gonna. The three weirdest ones Needed Log in to get to the stillness Observation and self mastery pages. Other than that, you can go over the member guidelines page, which is basically Like follow this shit and you get to be a member. What month is December? Thursday? Which is basically like follow this shit and you get to be a member.

Speaker 2:

What month is December? Thursday, alright that's all I got, and I need a fucking shot so, mike, you got a little bit of information about Lisa Renee after you talk about that oh yeah. I want to talk about some social media posts. Doug can talk about the one he was about to talk about. And then I got a couple things.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, doug might be able to add a little more if he really wants to. But TLDR on Okay, fine, that's fine by me. Tldr on Lisa Renee. In 1999, lisa Renee experienced a spontaneous Kundalini event, so a Spondelini Kundalini event many years ago, a Spondeliniundalini hearing. Many years ago, a spondylone kundalini uh. Many years ago that cattle catalyzed a star seed, awakening to perceive multi-dimensional realities and communication with the evolutionary forces of light. Serving the law of one. Lisa renee has been personally contacted and then prepared, trained and downloaded by interdimensional. You've been downloaded.

Speaker 3:

You would have downloaded recently she says that in every single fucking interview thing, on the interview pages, page on uh about being downloaded website I yeah, if she mentions it in the intro of everything, but I don't know that it's ever actually explained what that means nope, um, but anyway, she's downloaded by internet interdimensional beings, extraterrestrial and ultra terrestrial, not from this universe, known as the crystal star and aura guardians. Guided by guardians, lisa was biologically upgraded to be downloaded to comprehend the science of ascension.

Speaker 5:

This is the law of one and its dynamics upon the layers of that might have been one of the dumbest smart sentences I've ever fucking heard in my life.

Speaker 2:

You have been upgraded to be downloaded, I think maybe downloaded means like uh, she can be received by other people like telepathically or whatever the fuck I hope, because otherwise there's not. There's a lot of that in the thing I'm gonna read, okay cool and then I believe we went over Kundalini events.

Speaker 3:

What those are.

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 3:

Not going to go into that. That's all I have on Lisa Renee, but TLDR, she's a lady who had some form of stroke or vision. She's just a fucking person. Yeah, mental episode in the 90s and then started charging people for ghost aliens.

Speaker 3:

She just capitalized on the fact that she's mentally ill, Probably yeah, she can explain it better if you go to her YouTube, which? Is just Energetic Synthesis on YouTube. She explains it for you. Just go to her house. She has an 8 minute introduction to what all this is, and that's all you need.

Speaker 5:

You don't need all the shit. We just said Nope.

Speaker 3:

Take what we said she's got an 8 minute video on it.

Speaker 2:

Now the big question that we've touched on several times is is this a? Cult? I don't know.

Speaker 3:

For legal purposes.

Speaker 2:

Some googly doodling around. You'll find a lot of people that have opinions on that, one of which, who is most um like, most blatantly states what their opinion is on this is uh, like doug mentioned blue bubbles 80 doug, you want to talk about that?

Speaker 3:

sorry, real quick. Malt uh slapping mothman's ass said they have the answer for what downloading is. Uh, downloading is literally the psychic process of information being downloaded into your brain so it's matrixing, so she's available to be psychotically received into your so okay, so I just need to to hear this out loud.

Speaker 4:

I guess, in this context, from everything that we just fucking talked about, is consciousness looked at like a software in this sense, the way they view consciousness is that every all consciousness is connected, which is kind of like the hive mind theory kind of thing going on. Unless you're an advanced person, I don't think you can access that yet and I think her teachings are how you do that you gotta pay into a higher tier ah, okay, I get you.

Speaker 4:

So it's like scientology with extra steps so, going on to this reddit post real quick, I'll just read the post out loud, but basically it was posted in two spots it someone asked is Lisa Renee a cult leader? And underneath in the Our Cult Survivors thread, a person named BlueBubbles80 responded. This was four days ago, by the way, holy shit. So ex-ES member here, I consider her a cult leader. You mentioned wanting to know about why she stopped doing sessions. Yes, are you referring to the sessions she used to do back in 2012, 2013? If so, she told the group years ago that she was collecting information on people's purposes and learning what she could from it about agendas or other things that came up in the sessions. You can find snippets of some people's sessions on the Ascension Glossary. She used to say she was collecting information for future people to use as a resource where they could energetically, maybe psychically, tap into it in the future. She has a habit of using her gifts uh to use members personal healing journeys without their consent for as case studies for her material in the ascension glossary blogs and in the group itself. She claims to be telepathic.

Speaker 4:

I had her mock verbatim what I was thinking or going through, with specifics only I knew and had experienced. Unfortunately, this misled me to believe her at the time and what I was experiencing Basically? She was preying upon this dude's fucking depression, or whatever you want to call it. I know now it was nothing more even remotely close to what she was claimed with all those bizarre accusations, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. What she was claimed with all those bizarre accusations, blah, blah, blah, blah. So long story short. This person allegedly was an es member and left and are like, yeah, this bitch is crazy. Uh, long story too. The person that posted asking if the, if this, uh, lisa renee was a cult leader is really interesting. Like I was just kind of looking through their post history and this person who's like kind of looking into whether or not to join this like uh group it seems like they were in another cult, left it and now their friends are joining this and they are reaching out for information fool me once.

Speaker 4:

Shame on you and the thing is, if you look through their post like their long-term posts or not long-term posts, just their post history they're in a bunch of other subreddits for, like you can just tell that they're looking for some sort of therapy or like some way to just feel better.

Speaker 5:

They need to find connected to something.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, like one of the groups is uh, uh kyphosis.

Speaker 5:

One's called long term tre kyphosis is is like the antithesis, the alternate version of scoliosis I don't know, man.

Speaker 4:

It just seems like this person has really bad body issues and they're looking for almost anything. That is fair. They're posting an R slash Lexus, Like you know. They're looking for anything.

Speaker 5:

They're trying to find some kind of connection.

Speaker 2:

They've reached a midlife crisis and they're looking into new age spiritualism and buying a car. Yeah.

Speaker 4:

But there's another person on one of the other threads, uh on the uh I think it's actually the same thread under the cult survivor it's called. Their name is majestic broccoli, and they seem to be very pro cult or like pro this kind of shit and like they post a ton in our cults and stuff like that and like they're very like. Oh yeah, like I I met with a uh, you know, a shaman from this group and they I didn't really like it and then it's just whatever that we're like.

Speaker 5:

Whenever I hear somebody say the word shaman or I visited a shaman, I'm like you are going to join a cult someday if you have not already?

Speaker 2:

so what I've gathered yeah that's, that's it, yeah what I've gathered seems to be going on here is that a lot of this stuff is borrowed from other New Age philosophy stuff. Like you mentioned, starseeds, there is an R. Starseeds. We were going to go into some of the subreddit stuff that we found. Oh, I have so much information.

Speaker 2:

But this sort of thinking exists outside of this and it really does seem like they target and prey on people who are in those types of communities who are interested in finding out more about this stuff, and then they hook them in with, like the the tactics that we've talked about, where, like, they provide you a little bit of information that only barely makes sense, and then you want to find out more, so you pay money to help to try to figure out more and you probably never actually figure it out.

Speaker 2:

When I was googling around, I found the youtube video I mentioned earlier on a post where, um, somebody was talking about this and it also linked to a subreddit called res cult survivors but it's private, you can't get into it, but apparently there is an entire community of people who have been part of this um and it didn't turn out well. I will tell you that some of the stuff in the youtube video I mentioned earlier, um, is pretty concerning. Like there is a section where she talks about how they have, like, a list of approved physicians and to.

Speaker 2:

At least two of those physicians have been accused of sexually abusing female members and like. Some of the stuff that they talk about is even like you accepting sexual touching from me and stuff is like a part of the way that you can like ascend and stuff like that.

Speaker 4:

So it's very, very concerning behavior blue bubbles actually has a second post that's kind of similar and talks about some like even worse stuff. Um as well, basically just saying that, like the, the cult will rewrite narratives to keep members compliant and passive and stuff like that, and just like, basically, that's just lisa would just complain all day and every day that like no one was like advanced enough to like actually like do the things that she was like speaking about and basically she was just, yeah, just keeping people passive and like trying making them do whatever she wanted.

Speaker 5:

So it's. That's what it's all about. That's all of these fucking mantras, all of these cults, all of these belief systems. They all have one thing in common, and that is taking the emotionally vulnerable and turning them into something that you can mold, something you can build yourself, and they're going to continue to do the thing that you want them to do until they get a voice of their own. So it's fucking easy prey. Yeah, it's. I don't know these cults. They fascinate me because of that fact, but they also horrify me because of the same fact that somebody has that much pull over somebody else like that's.

Speaker 4:

That is crazy to me right, all this disclaimer uh, this group is not classified by the government as a cult. We're just. We're just saying we think they might be a cult, we're not saying they are we're?

Speaker 5:

we are finding evidence of cult like behavior, um we are comparing like behavior between actual cults that are registered on the national cult watch list and this group of people who seems to be abiding by a certain set of beliefs that might follow certain other sets of beliefs that are on the cult watch list. So don't sue us.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. All that is to say, like if you're in a really bad place, you can find support groups and communities that aren't this sort of thing.

Speaker 3:

Predatory Therapy exists. They're not predatory.

Speaker 2:

But you can also find groups. Go on Facebook and just look up something you're interested in and just find a group for knitting or something I don't know, find a sense of belonging there instead of something you have to pay for to understand, because if somebody's asking you to pay to understand something, you don't need it.

Speaker 4:

It's probably a scam, just like college. The only cult you should be joining is the cult of.

Speaker 3:

Deludy. There you go, absolutely. One thing I do want to note too is there's probably a couple people thinking that are listening, that are like, oh, you know, I've never heard of this, you know, not cult cult before. So there can't be that many members in this fucking thing. But to put it in perspective, their YouTube channel alone has 36,000 subscribers, which you know fucking thing. But to put it in perspective, their youtube channel alone has 36 000 subscribers, which you know it doesn't sound like a lot when you see like content creators out there with you know millions upon millions. But you got to keep in mind like colts, they, they work in like smaller numbers a lot of times and you don't. The fact that just the youtube channel has 36 000 means that there's probably more followers out there that just are not on the youtube itself and even if one percent of those people they've like ruined their lives by isolating them from their families and stuff it's yeah, I mean too many to put in fucking many to put in perspective.

Speaker 3:

There's a um, there's someone I can't remember exactly specifically what the math is, but someone like did the math of how many actual like scientology members there are, and the number is only about, like it's like a hundred thousand, which is quite a few, but it's way less than you think. For a cult as well known as scientology, a hundred thousand is not to be the celebrity call yeah, it's a drop in the bucket. And then you have this one that has literal over a third of that number.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you just haven't heard of it, but that doesn't mean that it's not big and it doesn't exist yep, like it's, just because it's a sneaker, as we found, as we found like part of the agreement for even joining is being very hush house about what you learn on the inside so you can't tell anyone, and the person that you are getting the referral from has to make sure of that.

Speaker 5:

It's it literally. It's a cascade of checks and balances, and all of those checks and balances make sure that the information being shared in this group of people does not get shared outside this group of people. Damn like that's the whole.

Speaker 4:

Thing there's a fucking subreddit called es cult survivors.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's a private fucking yeah, we just mentioned that one. It's obviously. Yeah, you were exploring the road. He ascended a little bit there.

Speaker 2:

Man, we got to get you back up no, that's fine, but like I get it because it's private, because the people in there don't want the people that they used to socialize with, knowing that they figured out that they've been a part of a cult or they don't want people like attacking them because you know, like it's one thing, like we know cults attack people who point shit out, um, like us, but then like the people who have actually signed up for this, like they know intimate information about them, they know personal details, they know where they've lived, they know who their friends and family are, probably, and they can actually like, really do damage to people's lives very personal emotional damage, but not to me what are you gonna do to me?

Speaker 2:

well, well, I can tell you exactly what they can do, because the last thing I wanted to mention was and shout out to slapping mothman's ass so hard in the discord for posting this. But this is a very, very long Reddit post on a subreddit called Gangstalking New yes, and it talks about First, this concerned me a lot because the title is Psychic Predators Energetic Synthesis Cult Targeted Harassment, and I started reading this and it says I'm posting on this forum. As it is a direct targeted harassment, some of this stuff may not make sense because I'm psychic.

Speaker 2:

But the targeting from this cult is real and the damage they can cause is very real too. And at first I was like, oh no, did these people go after people? Or should we not post this episode because they're going to try to ruin our lives? And then I read further and I got to this section where, um, it says, when you're sleeping, they actually disguise themselves as close relatives or friends or loved ones, they manipulate you, even in your dream state, and of course, they attack you and do all sorts of terrible things to you. They use giant monsters or aliens or or laser cannons or guns and try to hurt you. They put needles and thumbtacks in your butt or they astral rape you. They disguise themselves as like super hot supermodels or people you have a crush on and have sex with you, and then turn into some fucking weird leech or alien, like disgusting form in the middle of raping you goes on and on say something about that.

Speaker 5:

That shit's fucking hilarious because of how Ridiculous it is. However, that shit is also the reason that these people that are ingrained In these cults are not getting help, because somebody reads that and goes oh this is fucking ridiculous, are you kidding me? Guaranteed, that's written by somebody who is of sound mind, or so they think.

Speaker 2:

I think it's more on the, so they think that's 100 what it is, but still, you make a good point that's reality to them yeah, you make a good point, though, with like people hiding and like like not speaking out is, if you're going to end up in something like this, to begin with, you probably have like you. You obviously you believe that there's like some sort of telepathic communication or something that's possible, and so you may legitimately believe you may legitimately believe, if you speak out and leave, that they can like attack you through your thoughts and yeah, and so absolutely.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, that's crazy and that's like that's the level of control these groups have over, over people. And that's like the last time that we talked about, uh, like a real cult that we found in southern illinois, like that's. That's the the same temperament that I had then as I do now. That shit sucks. Don't fuck with people like that. Like you're promising things that you can never, ever come through on, simply because you want to control somebody who's weak at that moment.

Speaker 4:

Like that is, people come to you saying that they can sell you and create you and, like you know, like lure you into something where they promise you you'll be happy and stuff, and then ask for a credit card. Like like fuck you. You got to be some type of stupid to be like these are my buddies. Like yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3:

God does need my master card. Yeah, what's? What's your boomer?

Speaker 2:

join our patreon yeah, call the diluted tier yeah, we won't but the difference is we're not telling you we'll solve any of your problems. We'll probably make them worse.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, honestly you will lose money in the process yeah, so the money loss will make you feel better, though.

Speaker 3:

Speaking of that, patreoncom, slash, dilutypod or dilutycom. You can go there and give us money and we'll use it to help us and benefit us, and you maybe therapy for us, mainly therapy for us but all seriousness, therapy, don't join a cult. Therapy is great, you should go to it more often. Mainly therapy for us. But all seriousness, therapy, don't join a cult. Therapy's great, you should go to it more often.

Speaker 4:

And possibly your provider will pay for it. Whoever you have healthcare through.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to go out there and I'm just going to say what a wild ride this was. I am mentally exhausted. My chak that are at an all-time low and my shield I let my shield down for a second.

Speaker 1:

My 12d shield I let it down and now you have a negative energy and now you're a targeted individual I'm a target.

Speaker 2:

Go to our gang stalking new and learn all about how that works the naa is trying to get me.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to say you can find us on any social media anywhere, or any site that you're probably on we're either. Don't Look Under the Internet or DilutyPod. Try Pornhub. Even we might be on there.

Speaker 5:

I don't know, I have not looked yet.

Speaker 3:

If they are, that'd be hilarious. Keep it up, pirated episodes of Diluty. Check us out If you want to send us an email. We're diluting pod at gmailcom. Once again, I'm gonna say try not to join a cult. Try your damn just not to, because please don't, it's not gonna be the best for you. Cult of diluting yeah, jason, what you got say people obviously stay fucking paranoid.

Speaker 5:

This, when we first started this show like calls for one of my hyper fixations, like I thought they were fascinating. We have dug into enough of them for me to know that they are no longer fascinating to me. Just fucking stay away from them. Never, ever, ever follow somebody who says that they know more than you and you can never know what they know except me, I'm.

Speaker 3:

God, follow me, I am your eternal. I'm your eternal birthright like the internet's dad.

Speaker 5:

That's different anyway.

Speaker 4:

Doug. Well, make sure, at the end of the day, you put a 12D shield around your peen, because you need to protect it when you're slapping someone's negative energy beans.

Speaker 5:

And yeah, don't try to call it logical.

Speaker 4:

I just want to really brush that into your brain, unless it's how you really stamp it in, you know.

Speaker 2:

Moody moody mutt cheeks, what do you got? I think I'm going to go Kundalini myself and play Oblivion.

Speaker 1:

You know, I hear if you take your bottom ribs out, you can Kundalini yourself.

Speaker 3:

Hey, Matt, you should go play Oblivion.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm going to do that.

Speaker 1:

And then I'm going to Kundal. A lot of maybe in that order, I don't know, we'll see.

Speaker 3:

Well, everyone, you have a blessed day. I'm your.

Speaker 5:

God.

Speaker 3:

Follow me and obey my every word. Mike's your Venus.

Speaker 5:

He's your fire and your desire and heart. Bye.

Speaker 4:

Did you just?

Speaker 2:

Don't look under the internet.

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