Don't Look Under the Internet
Don't Look Under the Internet
DLUTI 190 - Space Conspiracy Theories
This week, we trudge through the internet to gather information about the most outlandish space-related conspiracy theories we can find.
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Speaker 1:We're good. We're good to go.
Speaker 2:Are, we Are, we Are we we're gonna find out.
Speaker 4:Oh, no, that joke is lost on everyone now.
Speaker 2:Hello, everyone, do it again harder.
Speaker 3:Obviously, hang on on. I gotta get in the voice more we hello everyone. Welcome.
Speaker 2:To don't look under the internet are, we are we are, we are we I don't even know more.
Speaker 3:That's Jason. Hello, that's Matt. Are we, that's Doug.
Speaker 5:Damn I was going to say are. We Say I'd rather be playing Oblivion. I'd rather be playing Oblivion. There you go, and I'm Mike.
Speaker 3:I'd rather be playing Oblivion and.
Speaker 4:Doug, when we fuck this intro up, you can have the next one. Yeah, all, you can have the next one. Yeah, all right, and we fucked this intro up, I'm not doing it again I'm sitting here in silence for 10 minutes, are we?
Speaker 5:um takes. Are we really silent?
Speaker 3:podcast yeah you just get to hear random house noises. You'd be so, so not before I get into housekeeping. Um, last podcast they did the small thing where he's talking about henry zabrowski was like do you know he's? He's like do you know how uncomfortable 15 seconds of silence is on a podcast? Let me show you just how long 15 seconds of silence is on a podcast. And they went quiet and it felt like a fucking eternity.
Speaker 1:It feels like forever.
Speaker 3:It's just 15 seconds. I'm like what's happening.
Speaker 4:Anyway, your world is crumbling.
Speaker 2:How's it going? We should do really quiet podcasts and just record everything or just move everything down to like negative, like oh yeah, decibels, yeah just upload it so that, like, if you, if you, if you can finally manage to turn it all the way up, it's just noise and just like us in the background and the noise is just us going.
Speaker 1:Are we, are, we are we?
Speaker 3:are we um? Anyway, I'm doing housekeeping because I just did my big flail and I have one person to shout out and it's um ghost, aka corpse eater damn ghost aka corpse eater, and eater has a ends in W-R instead of E-R, so it's E-R. Is that how he became a ghost Eater? Ghost aka Corpse Eater.
Speaker 4:It's Eater, eater, eater. I'm a Corpse Eater, eater, corpse Eater. I like ghosts Eater.
Speaker 2:I like ghosts.
Speaker 3:Green ghouls Very ed almost as edgy as that fucking hog of a man that's in there, Vinny Vindictive or whatever the porn guy.
Speaker 5:It's edgy Reggie. Did you just call him a hog of a man?
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's fucking piped dude, what does?
Speaker 4:that mean.
Speaker 3:He's fucking piped dude, that's what it means.
Speaker 5:Bricked up. I'm so jerked off the hog right now Isn't bricked up something else, the closest I can imagine is there's a fucking. Uber driver that looks like a sentient slab of ham.
Speaker 4:That's what I think of.
Speaker 3:There's a lot that just happened right now. A lot of us are talking.
Speaker 2:We all just went in real different directions.
Speaker 5:Good luck, Mike, in putting us into a fucking segue from whatever this is.
Speaker 3:Bird scooter. I got my ways Anyway, so that concludes bird pooper housekeeping, Anyway. So that concludes bird pooper housekeeping. So, boys, we just took up a lot of airspace by just throwing that gobbledygook out there. A lot and a lot of just airspace.
Speaker 4:Airspace.
Speaker 3:Space. But there's no air in space.
Speaker 4:Space that word makes no sense. Space no one can hear you.
Speaker 2:Space.
Speaker 3:Space, but there's no air in space. Space, that word makes no sense Space.
Speaker 5:No one can hear you space.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so our topic today? I figured it's the return of the sixth. We're recording this on the sixth and I figured, why not do something? Space themed?
Speaker 5:Isn't that be fun, Isn't it Revenge of the Sixth? No, it's Revenge of the Fifth. Nah, that's what it is. I gotta make a call. But also in space-related news, I think Haley's Comet flew by last night.
Speaker 1:Yeah, did she wave.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she was like what up, did she say why are you always running in place?
Speaker 4:What up, idiots?
Speaker 5:Nah, she was like hey time to kill yourself. Everybody kill yourself right now. Is that the hail, bob? What? Anyway, it's moving on, it's easy to confuse those two.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, that's the Hanson comment the Hanson comment right Kill yourself, Fucking kill yourself. Now that you say that, I can hear the lyrics.
Speaker 5:Never registered. You're right, I'm pretty sure that we're getting fucking. It's a oh God, I can't even think of the word. Anyways, move on.
Speaker 3:We're talking about space things today. I'm going to move us the fuck out of whatever that territory was. We just keep talking about. Jason, we're talking about Dr Spacheman from 30 Rock. So again, I thought it'd be really fun to talk about some space-related things. We each have our own space-related thing that we came to the table with. I will bring mine up first. So MySpace-themed mystery revolves around Phobos. How do you guys know what Phobos is? It's a moon the wiener.
Speaker 4:Oh it's like. Deimos and Phobos, yes, the moon of what? Jupiter.
Speaker 3:Mars, mars. Stupider Wait, lord Phobos from.
Speaker 4:Lord Phobos, yeah, not the ARG Phobos.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 4:OK, we're talking G.
Speaker 2:Phobos. No, we're talking about.
Speaker 4:This is one of these episodes, Mike.
Speaker 3:It is, that's okay.
Speaker 4:Good luck getting past any sentence.
Speaker 3:That's what these are for. I guess I'm talking about the Phobos UFO conspiracy. Oh shit. So what be Phobos? First and foremost, jason kind of nailed it on the head. Phobos is one of the two weird unique kind of nailed it on the head. Phobos is one of the two weird, unique moons of Mars. Phobos and Deimos, named after Greek gods. Phobos is the god of fear. I think it's like Fear. I think it's fear.
Speaker 5:And Deimos Sounds right.
Speaker 3:Deimos followed Phobos on his quests and shit, I think. Uh, anyway, who did deimos?
Speaker 4:deimos, I said phobos for some reason like thanos um so yeah, phobos itself thank you, it is.
Speaker 5:It is panic and fear and demon, oh my god her the two fucking monsters are Phobos and.
Speaker 4:Deimos Pain and panic. Why did I just get that? I'm a fucking moron. God, I just got it too.
Speaker 3:It's all good.
Speaker 4:Gladron Similar company.
Speaker 2:I'm still back here thinking about the fact that Mike started his sentence with a rap. Basically he was like what be Phobos, first and foremost with like a rap. Basically he was like what be Phobos first and foremost.
Speaker 3:What be Phobos, first and foremost.
Speaker 2:I'm going to be talking about some UFOs.
Speaker 3:Oh my god.
Speaker 2:Why didn't I do this? I don't know.
Speaker 4:Back to the stuff I started over. Doug you ready.
Speaker 3:Are we Okay? So Phobos A little bit more information on Phobos itself. Phobos is a 14-mile-wide moon that rotates around Mars' orbit. It's a very small moon. To put it in perspective with ours. Ours is like 2,700 miles long or something, and Phobos is 14 miles wide. Matt, you're a runner. You could run the length of Phobos. You could go from one point and back to it.
Speaker 2:On Phobos in like a day. When's the Phobos half marathon scheduled?
Speaker 3:That's up to you to decide.
Speaker 5:Assuming you're at Oxygen right, assuming we're going to beam you up there with all the money we make from the podcast.
Speaker 3:In fact, it's so weird. Phobos is very close to Mars' atmosphere as well. It's insanely close. It's very weird, because if you weigh 150 pounds on Earth, if you're on Phobos, you weigh only a few ounces. That's how weird gravity is affecting you, couldn't you jump off the moon.
Speaker 3:I would not be surprised, considering if it was close enough to mars. Yeah, how? I'm just just considering how light you are. I would not be surprised if you could. Um, I don't think you can because in theory, we've already had we're launching rovers to land on it come next year. Spoiler, I'm going to get into it those way more than us damn, you got me there anyway.
Speaker 3:So back to my thing it's full. The weird thing about, uh, phobos is full of weird shit. Another weird thing about phobos is it is filled with craters. There is this 14 mile wide uh moon is literally basically just dents and craters. Part of it is a six mile wide dent.
Speaker 4:Almost half of this fucking moon itself is just one giant so this just looks like a suction cup, like it honestly does, and then on the inside it's just like a little pac-man kind of yeah and uh, he brings up.
Speaker 2:a good point, though too heavy, too heavy, too heavy Too heavy, too heavy.
Speaker 3:Phobos is also seen as being the best place to study for potential life on Mars. The biggest theory as to why that is is because it used to be a chunk of Mars, that another, just like our moon, where people yeah people theorize that it was our moon, was a chunk of the earth. We got hit by something and it just kind of fell off and then went into orbit. People theorize that same thing with, um uh, phobos and they, they like phobos because it captures. It's like a time capsule. It's not affected by the atmosphere on mars as much as mars itself is. So they're like oh, this thing is great for collecting samples. They've already found what they call call the building blocks of potential life-based minerals on there. They're like this place is fucking great, let's go.
Speaker 4:Put all the people on Earth on a 14-mile-wide sphere. Yep, we can do it. We can all fit. There's a math problem. I want Reddit to do?
Speaker 2:You can clean the whole thing with two farm Roombas fine, there's a math problem.
Speaker 1:I want reddit to do right. You can clean the whole thing with like two farm roombas.
Speaker 4:Just bury the con, the wi-fi, underneath the giant crater, the wi-fi in the center of the planet, yeah, speaking of the center of the planet, though, um something I'm gonna is there a center I'm gonna dive a bit more deep into it, but one of the running theories with phobos is that it's hollow.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna get into that more later. I go after you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's cool yeah, yeah, um, but I'll get into that a little bit more later. But yeah, one of the theories of phobos is that it's hollow. So in the 1960s, russia noticed uh phobos, and I'm gonna get into this now. We'll notice that uh phobos was actually spinning way more like rotating, way faster than they first assumed that it did, and it was moving around Mars a lot faster than it was. They theorize because of this that Phobos more than likely is a hollow moon because the way it's spinning so fast and it's going a lot faster than Mars, it rotates around Mars faster than Mars rotates itself. So they're like the only way that can happen is motherfuckers hollow Photos of Phobos not photos, but like wavelengths and like other signals that we've launched out at Phobos and brought back have also theorized that Phobos may have a thin sheet metal-esque layer wrapped around it Of sheet metal. Basically it's like a thin sheet metal-esque layer wrapped around it Of sheet metal. Basically, it's like a thin sheet metal layer wrapped around the entire rocket. It's the Death Star.
Speaker 2:Is what you're getting.
Speaker 4:Yeah, kind of, or the Bee Gyne from.
Speaker 3:Futurama, yeah, this Bee Gyne. These two weird things that we found out in the 60s have started a conspiracy that Phobos is an artificial moon, some claim.
Speaker 1:What.
Speaker 3:Yeah. People think that this is a fake moon and it was placed there by something.
Speaker 5:It's not natural. We need that noise on our soundboard. That goes. It's not natural, we need that noise on our soundboard. That goes.
Speaker 4:Dun, dun, dun dun dun dun so some claim the boons god, fucking, dammit, I almost just shat my pants. I just watched Mike. Just he, literally his arm hurts now because of that. Holy fuck the bass is turned up on this thing. That's for fucking sure. You can't do that to my heart.
Speaker 3:Mike's not here next week, dude, okay so some claim the moon seems to be hollow and that it's held together also by a mildly cohesive outer fabric that goes along with the sheet metal okay, so it's time to investigate what the fuck is going on with Phobos. So Space Menard outer fabric that goes along with the sheet metal Okay, so it's time to investigate what the fuck is going on with Phobos. So Space Menards, since this episode ain't going nowhere, man holy fuck.
Speaker 1:That should not have gotten me as much as it did but holy shit that was funny
Speaker 2:yeah, I don't know why. What was so perfect about that?
Speaker 5:you just kept saying sheet metal and I was like you save big money when you shop for bones, the six mile wide crater is just the garden center.
Speaker 4:The other side of it, you'll find all of our lumber and plywood Holy shit.
Speaker 3:So, after Russia found all that shit in the 60s, let's go fast forward a little bit Can't even do it.
Speaker 3:1988 1988, russia launches Phobos 1 and 2, two satellites that they launch, that they want to go take a look at Phobos the moon a bit more. They were backed by multiple countries, including the United States, to look into Mars and their moons for sampling and to get more information on these planets and the moon. Phobos 1 was pretty much dead immediately into its launch. Someone that was at the control center for Phobos 1 typed in the wrong command and it caused Phobos 1 to go from looking at the sun its power source, because of their solar power to command, and it caused Phobos 1 to go from looking at the sun, its power source, because of its solar power, to not looking at the sun, pretty much killing it immediately after launch, with Phobos 2 pretty much leaving it on its own. So months later we see that Phobos 2 starts acting.
Speaker 3:A bit funny. We get readings back that Phobos 2 has just started spinning out of nowhere, which is weird, because things in space don't just start spinning out of nowhere. It's a vacuum. Unless you put some sort of pressure on it or some sort of force, it's not going to do anything. So they're like, huh, that's weird. Why would it start spinning? You know what they thought Something hit it. Weird Wonder, what hit it? Weird Wonder, what hit it. Phobos 2 went dark after sending it back some images, and then it died out in space a few months later. Rip Phobos 1 and 2. Russia at the time claims that the failure was caused by a computer malfunction.
Speaker 4:Okay, Russia has a fucking history of lying about shit that happens in space.
Speaker 3:When looking at this set of photos that was sent back by Phobos 2, the last images that show what may have caused the probe to start spinning show that it may have been attacked. The moon, no, the, oh, the probe Phobos 2, the probe. I thought you were talking. Okay, got it.
Speaker 2:I was having trouble following as well. I was thinking that something slammed into the moon and shot me into space, phobos 2.
Speaker 3:Phobos 2, the probe started spinning randomly when it got close to Phobos the moon.
Speaker 5:How fucking lazy do you have to be to name your fucking rovers the same thing as the place they're going?
Speaker 2:We didn't send probes up to our moon and just be like moon two.
Speaker 4:It makes it easy to put the right shuttle in the right. We call it like the challenger yeah, moon two, the re-mooning.
Speaker 3:Russia tried to hide. I'm skipping right past it. Russia tried to hide these photos that show that Phobos 2, the probe may have been attacked. They tried to hide I'm skipping right past it. Russia tried to hide these photos um that show that vobos to the probe may have been attacked. Um, they tried to hide the release, but after worldwide demand, they were released all but four images why not those four?
Speaker 3:you're about to find out why. So, okay, some of the photos are released by russia showed the shadow of something being casted onto the surface of mars again. These are the last couple photos that were. These are the photos that were released by Russia.
Speaker 1:These are not the four hidden ones.
Speaker 3:Matt, I sent you these photos. They're all in order. If you want to throw them on screen, be my guest. If not, I don't give a fuck, I'll describe them. So you see two photos here. These two photos, they are just that. They're like oblong shaped, kind of like cigar shaped, disc-esque um shadows. You're using all the buzzwords you like that? Shit, you're using all of?
Speaker 3:yeah, I know you like that, uh, I'm trying to get our fucking, uh, uh, our algorithm going, uh. But so these shadows were casted on Mars. What could these be? What do you think?
Speaker 4:By looking at these photos. What do you think?
Speaker 3:A cigar or a UFO. Probably, probably. They estimated that because of the shadow, they estimated that whatever casts the shadow is roughly around the same size as Phobos.
Speaker 4:I'm fucking sorry.
Speaker 3:What the moon, whatever casted these shadows, they think is roughly around the size of the moon, the moon right.
Speaker 4:Which again remember that's 14 miles, that's actually not that big.
Speaker 2:Moon or moon.
Speaker 4:That's pretty fucking big. I mean, 14 mile ship is pretty pretty large To put, to put in perspective what that is the. It's not real, but I'm a fucking hyper nerd. The what the fuck is it called? I'm a fucking hyper nerd. The what the fuck is it called? The Superstar Destroyer from Star Wars. Those were 12 miles long and if you were to put one of those on Earth it would look like it would bend around the horizon All.
Speaker 5:I can think of is 12 miles, well, the Earth's flat, so no one. The intro to Spaceballs, where it's just like, yes, going down the ship for like ever.
Speaker 3:It's the same shit. So you're probably wondering to yourselves what could these things be? And the world was wondering this as well. So it wasn't until around 1991, when we had a test pilot, a Russian test pilot named Marina Popovich, my girl Popovich. She revealed these four hidden photos. These are what we got, matt. If you again want to take a look at these next four sorry, next three photos I only have three of them on here because they're pretty much the same Next three photos. So, to describe these photos for anyone that's not if there's no visual or anything like that to describe these photos you see Phobos itself in the middle and there's a white line coming up from it and you see that line on these photos, on all three of these photos.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that line is estimated to be 15 miles long, but I thought, oh, so it's behind Phobos, so it's further away from Phobos than the camera is.
Speaker 3:No, it's pretty much right next to Phobos.
Speaker 4:That doesn't make any sense, because you just said.
Speaker 3:Phobos is 14 miles across, and this is estimated to be 15. This isn't the whole shot. This is just a portion. Keep that in mind.
Speaker 4:Okay, that makes more sense then. Yeah, I thought that was the whole thing. I thought that was the whole thing.
Speaker 3:They only caught a portion of it, going off of what they have and also the shadow. They're estimating it to be about 14-15 miles long. If you take into consideration the trajectory of the moon and the sun Exactly Now this white line is, like I said, the object that they believe hit Phobos 2, the satellite. The probe was using an infrared camera, so it was obviously giving off some sort of heat or reflection. That's how we see it. It can't be a shadow. Infrared doesn't see shadows.
Speaker 4:No, it sees heat.
Speaker 1:And light.
Speaker 4:It sees light beyond the visible spectrum.
Speaker 3:It sees ultraviolet light. This object is again theorized to be what casted that shadow on Mars. So why do we think that this thing destroyed our probe? Well, because it did it did. Well, we think this because this probe other photos that were released to the public our probe Phobos 2, took some very interesting pictures of Mars that some say look like a city on Mars. Matt, you can go to the next pictures if you want.
Speaker 4:So maybe this is something that the UFOs didn't want us to see. Huh, now look, it's a city block. Exactly, people are like that looks like a city block.
Speaker 3:Now, that's interesting, right right. These are what we found not only do we find these on mars, but there are. We found these on mars, but um with other like mars trips, but like years before, um, talking like 10, 20 years beforehand, we got other imagery back of like pyramid shapes that we found on mars, rect, uh, squares that we found on mars. There's a face that we found on mars. You know, there's all this weird shit that we found on there.
Speaker 4:Now we're finding cities, bro now we're finding that's hard to refute that that is a grid system like.
Speaker 3:So now, phobos, the moon also has some weird shit going on with it. Okay, there are these weird grooves that are on the surface that are all parallel to one another and are all the same depth and width. They seem to be brighter than the surface, judging off of the photography that we got back, and this is showing that it may be made of a different material than the moon itself. Here we are, here are these grooves. You see these grooves I'm talking about. Looks like someone took one of those like sand rakes.
Speaker 4:Almost like it was part of a different planet and then got dragged off of it.
Speaker 3:Now here's yeah, also in this photo you can see right here that is the six-mile-long deck, the Stickney Crater, which is named after the wife of the man who discovered Phobos.
Speaker 2:I don't remember his name. At Phobos I don't remember his name this man was like. That doesn't make sense, Bro.
Speaker 3:I don't make the math, I just go with it.
Speaker 5:This man hates his wife. He's like, yeah, this fucking crazy is my wife.
Speaker 3:She's a real pain in my ass, and this is her. This is what she gets. She's a dent on a moon.
Speaker 1:I hate my fucking wife.
Speaker 3:Now here's something else that's weird that we found on Phobos there's a fucking monolith on Phobos.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, how far is this from Deedle.
Speaker 3:There is a monolith that is 270 feet across and 300 feet tall.
Speaker 4:So it's almost a perfect square.
Speaker 3:It looks like that right.
Speaker 5:The weird part is it's a monolith, then If it's just a square, You're a monolith then if it's just a square, you're
Speaker 4:a monolith, how's that? Yeah, okay, is it's casting. The weirdest part is that that the 270 feet across and 300 tall right that means is one-tenth taller than it is wide. Yeah, it's power of three power of three fucking weird.
Speaker 3:Yeah right, I don't know what that means.
Speaker 4:But yeah, that means nature usually doesn't use mathematical equations to build structures.
Speaker 2:It may be that they measured it to a certain extent and there's only like a degree of accuracy that they can get that's, that's fair.
Speaker 4:I do they may not know that it's like 24.36 yeah, yeah, I, I am picturing somebody with like a fucking laser protractor you're literally just like right down.
Speaker 5:You're right, they did like those surveyor laser things yeah, well, you see, when the martians were done building the pyramid, they were like, oh, we have this extra brick. And they just like so that's kind of.
Speaker 3:That kind of is something that I'm going to get into here. So are we actually guessing the?
Speaker 5:answer maybe a little really predictable. I'm not gonna lie people suggest.
Speaker 3:People suggest that this is the same as the pyramids that we have on earth. We also, like I mentioned before, found pyramids on mars. Now, what people are theorizing here is I. I don't remember exactly what the theory is called, but there's a theory that I don't know what that sound is but there's a theory I can hear that sound that's that was.
Speaker 4:Dense could be a child.
Speaker 3:That's that was dead, could be a child who's sick. Could be a ghost. Could be a child. So, some theorize that electricity not OK, that is a child. Some say that electricity, not gravity, is the main force of the universe.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And there's ancient aliens that are able to tap in to the force of the universe. Yeah and uh, the there's ancient aliens that were able to tap in to the electricity of the universe and basically use that as an unlimited, uh, energy source, and they did that.
Speaker 5:Don't make me come out there Um like there are alarms going off.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Right Um so they they theorize that these aliens were able to build these pyramids and use these pyramids to gather the uh electrical energy from the universe um, did they mine this fucking moon to build the pyramids?
Speaker 5:they might have.
Speaker 3:That's a good theory, who the fuck knows? But there is a little bit of not science to it. But there is a little bit of history to the pyramids on earth being there for being a source to gather electrical energy, because Nikola Tesla himself has the Tesla pyramid.
Speaker 4:That he tried to create, fail. There's the ancient Egyptians had a form of the tesla uh super conductor coil yeah, yeah, uh.
Speaker 5:Yeah, you talked about that in the last game, but I'm not qualified to talk about this that much, because I don't really understand it. But have you seen the stuff that they've been showing about the pyramids? Uh, that have, like the giant, like they did some sort of like, uh, sonar or something or other, and they saw these big.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we talked about this a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 1:I think this is when I brought up the.
Speaker 4:Tesla coil that ancient Egyptians had.
Speaker 2:We have a whole bonus on this the technology that they use to detect. That is bullshit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, cool, very good, so anyway. That's weird, right?
Speaker 5:So anyway, it's like weird as fuck. Am I right?
Speaker 4:Well, no.
Speaker 3:So yeah.
Speaker 4:It's a monolith that is built on a weird Martian moon.
Speaker 3:A monolith built on a Martian moon that seems to be hollow and have a metal outer layer to it. Yeah, that also had a UFO. It's glitter. Yeah, that had a UFO strike us down or probe down when we were trying to investigate it Fucking weird. And we have those photos of a fucking Martian city. That's fucking weird, right, that's very weird. That is very weird. Well, going to break your hearts a little bit, okay, the math ain't mathing on this bad boy and I'm gonna show you how. So scientists have already kind of reported on debunking a lot of this first one.
Speaker 4:I hate the first weird shit, man?
Speaker 3:no, not even that. Oh, and now it's time to break your hearts no, like that. The sentence directly after that scientists may have already reported on why the probe started spinning. This next part yep, it was spinning before it got to mars.
Speaker 3:That's the dumbest and most logical explanation I've ever heard there was uh, there was a russian paper that came out where they did a deep dive into all the coding and all that jazz and they were basically able to summarize that Phobos 2 was basically spinning the entire time. It was out in space and because of this it was pulling data from fucking all over the map and it was transmitting that data all over the place back to us. We weren't getting accurate data because it was pulling from fucking over there, over there, up there, down there, wherever it was pointing at the time, up there, down there, wherever it was pointing. At the time Two, the giant cigar-shaped shadow that was being casted on Mars. That looked weird, right. That looked weird. That looked like a UFO, right yeah.
Speaker 2:Unfortunately, Spacebug hit the windshield.
Speaker 3:Spacebug hit the windshield. Unfortunately, that was more than likely just a data glitch. Um, there is a bit more evidence to it later on and I'll get to in just a second. But the most, yeah, the most heartbreaking thing of all. The probe, as it turns out, didn't die immediately after taking those four pictures, like they claimed yeah, it was alive for like two more days and it sent back 50 some odd more pictures. And in those photos, that white line that they thought was the UFO is in every single one of them.
Speaker 2:So it's like damage to the sensor or something.
Speaker 3:Exactly, and here are just some random photos in space. Here's a random comet they got, here's just a random shot of space. Now, yes, basically these photos were basically a lens issue with the infrared camera. The photos from the regular camera showed no UFO, none of that stuff. So it was just a glitch with the infrared camera. But what about the monolith? You say what about the monolith? That proves that they're turning the Martians gay the monolith. Yeah, what you're turning the Martians gay the monolith.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what you're doing right now is great. Yeah, you like that.
Speaker 4:We have those here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, here's the bad part it is real. It is real, but unfortunately it is most likely a natural formation. Those monoliths can be found all over other moons, on various moons of various planets Jupiter's got some, jupiter's moon's got some, jupiter's moons got some. We even have some here on on earth. There are areas that have been just basically antarctica is one of them.
Speaker 3:antarctica's got that big old rectangle there is a shoreline I forget where I want to say it's like new zealand or some shit that, uh, the, the, the sea has eroded away at the stone so much and it's caused these like square formations to come out, well, even a giant, or a giant's causeway.
Speaker 4:Yeah, ireland, with the big hexagons that come up, like they're like basalt pillars.
Speaker 3:Yes, a perfect hexagon squares, just kind shapes, just kind of fucking happen sometimes, you know, yeah, now, michael, I know what you're asking again, what about the shadow on mars? There's no way that was just a data glitch. There can't be, that's a shadow, that is a shadow. Now, michael, I know what you're asking Again. What about the shadow on Mars? There's no way that was just a data glitch. There can't be, that's a shadow, that is a shadow. Ain't no way it could be a camera. Surely, if the camera glitched, then that still doesn't explain the shadow that we have on Mars. Here's the Mars shadow. You seen that shit? That's the Mars shadow. Here's the downside Probably just Phobos, the moon's shadow.
Speaker 4:The 14 mile wide thing.
Speaker 3:The 14 mile wide shadow is probably the shadow to the 14 mile wide moon On the ground. We have taken a lot of newer photos of Mars throughout the years and we have gotten the exact same shadow out of Phobos, the exact same fucking thing.
Speaker 3:Now, what about the grooves, michael? The grooves on Phobos? You didn't fucking thing. Now what about the grooves, michael, the grooves on Phobos? You didn't talk about those yet. Well, I'm going to.
Speaker 3:Here's the thing about the grooves on Phobos. The running theory is that these grooves are being caused by Mars' gravity. Now the moon, though, they don't believe is entirely hollow anymore, they do think that there are a lot of caverns and tunnel systems inside of it, because they have proved that it is a lot of empty space going on in that kind of moon, a lot of empty space. And they believe that these grooves are basically the dirt on the surface of the moon being pushed down by mars gravity and basically falling into the grooves of the caverns, causing these, these, these groups to to show yeah, so they're pretty much, they're just indents where these there's, they're just indents, they're just cracks. Yeah, that's all they fucking are. And the sheet metal skin that is around fucking Phobos? Yeah, this one's actually pretty obvious More than likely just dust that is being thrown up on the surface from the grooves being created and this moon being condensed down. In fact, this moon is getting condensed by mars's gravity so intensely that they expect that this moon will be obliterated under the gravity within, I think it's like 20 million years, so it's going to be around for a long time.
Speaker 3:But I mean the cosmic scheme of things, not, not exactly that's, that's a blip on the radar, um, so, all in all, fantastic story. Yeah, it's a fun story about a? Uh ufo that destroyed a, a probe, because we saw mars. Uh, martian cities also. Um, speaking of the martian cities, um, we see those shapes, unfortunately, all the time on, like mars and even like the moon. I believe they found some, um, they they check it off to, uh, I forget what it's called. It's like parallaxing or something where, like, oh, you see, you see patterns and shit and just random stuff, and that your brain saw the cul-de-sac looking shit and was like that's a city block that's called being human.
Speaker 4:Unfortunately, yeah because one of the the reason that we are technically have removed ourselves from the food chain Is our ability to recognize patterns, even if they're not actually there. The fact that we can recognize patterns and we're so good at it the blood sword Sometimes. You recognize patterns.
Speaker 3:That don't actually. Lizard brain turns to monkey brain and then monkey brain go. I know that is bad, but yeah, so that's my bit on Phobos, a fun little tale about a ufo that totally didn't exist and didn't hit a satellite, but it's still fun to think of it spawned a heavy conspiracy theory it did um, since we're talking too heavy, in fact it's too heavy, that's
Speaker 1:the other thing phobos too heavy, that's too heavy jason, I know you're chomping at the bit.
Speaker 3:It sounds like you've got something pretty entertaining.
Speaker 4:You're actually segwaying me perfectly into mine. We're gonna move from one of Mars's moons and we're just gonna go ahead and start talking about one of the only moon that we have orbiting our planet the moon, the moon moon 2 we haven't unlocked moon 2 yet up, up, down down left right
Speaker 2:left, right avi though just like a we land, like a store on the moon called moon two like to it's like limited to but two.
Speaker 4:Two moon, two moon. It's so too cool. Before I get into this, anybody out there who is drinking along with us? Go take a shot, or something. Just took a shot, damn it, and if the latency keeps up, it'll look like Doug and I are doing it at the same time right now. There you go, hell yeah.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, brother.
Speaker 4:Brrrah, brrrah.
Speaker 5:Wink where your taint is, or whatever they say.
Speaker 4:Let's talk about the fucking moon. Did you guys know that the moon is hollow since 1969?
Speaker 4:we knew this gas um, apparently an interpretation of certain results. Um, around, uh, the astronauts. So in 1969 there were several moon missions being talked about. One of the points of these moon missions was to gather seismic, uh data pertaining to seismic experiments on the surface of the moon. Um, basically, what happened is they started doing these tests and they would send vibrations to the ground of the moon, um, just to see, like, how old it is. And the way they can do this is they test the different layers in the moon or any surface they're really on, and you can see different seismic events. You can see proof of it within the different layers of Earth. Like there's an earthquake. You might see different layers of strata in it, but they gauge it like a tree, more or less. So they did these seismic experiments and what they found was that apparently the moon has something called moonquakes and apparently they last much longer, like much longer than on Earth. So on Earth an earthquake is like what? 10 seconds, 10, 20 seconds, usually from the moonquake is 10 years.
Speaker 4:Apparently, a moonquake can last up to 25 minutes. Damn, it's like a big orgasm.
Speaker 2:The moon beats work, apparently a moonquake can last up to 25 minutes. Damn, it's like a big orgasm. The moon be twerking.
Speaker 4:Apparently so. A lot of conspiracy theories have kind of they've guessed at the fact that the moon was hollow. I mean, we already have so many conspiracy theories about the Earth being hollow and we live here, so like who's to say that other planets aren't hollow as well? It's true, um, can a gas planet be hollow, technically, I guess, like by definition? But so the, the hollow moon it actually came came around around the same time as the, the widely thought perception that the moon was made of cheese.
Speaker 5:Yes, it is.
Speaker 4:Confirmed actually. No, that's actually dude. That's a widely accepted belief right now and that's really unfortunate.
Speaker 3:Where do you think Wisconsin gets it all?
Speaker 4:Those are just meteor showers for them. So apparently in the 60s it was very widely thought the moon was made of cheese. I'm guessing it had to do with all the space race stuff. Everybody was excited about the moon, going to the moon, what we can do, and all of these theories started to come out of it. So moon made of cheese OK, it was made of cheese. That means it can be molded right Like you can sculpt it right Like you can sculpt it. It's cheese Like you can do whatever you want. So why wouldn't it be hollow on the inside, right you could?
Speaker 2:build like a Mount Cheesemore on the moon.
Speaker 3:The Leaning Tower of Cheesa.
Speaker 4:So the we've got moon made of cheese. Beliefs that the moon is hollow. The actual basis for the hollow moon actually did come around. During the apollo 12 moon landing mission, nasa researchers sought to learn more about the composition of the moon. During the apollo 12 mission, astronauts pete conrad and alan bean mr bean set up a passive seismic experiment, or pse, at the landing site as part of a larger set of moon experiments known as the Apollo Lunar Surface Experiment Package, or ALSEP. Once the Apollo 12 astronauts were safely back in command of the module, they crashed the lunar module into the moon's surface. The impact was the equivalent of detonating one ton of TNT and triggered what's known as a moonquake, the first human-made moonquake to take place. We did it, guys.
Speaker 4:The PSE seismometers recorded the resulting vibrations, which were much bigger and lasted much longer than the scientists anticipated. They were far different from the earthquake vibrations on Earth. They don't really go too much into why or how or this or that. I'm assuming the difference in gravity, just less forces on each individual particle that makes up the entire crust or earth of the moon it kind of makes sense, I guess, that if it's there's less gravity, that it would be like, yeah, jigglier because it's like gravity exerts force on itself with all the things like the more of something there is, the more force it exerts on itself.
Speaker 2:Sure, it makes sense the less of something it is.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's how I rationalize it.
Speaker 3:I'm illiterate and that makes sense to me.
Speaker 4:Good, there's something for everybody here. So at the time, oh also. So Apollo 13, 14, 15, and 16 missions apparently were all for about the same thing Seismic tests. What about Apollo 18? That was to find aliens that live on the other side of the moon. They did it.
Speaker 5:Isn't there a movie Apollo 18?
Speaker 3:I fucking love that movie. Great success.
Speaker 5:That movie's pretty good. It's actually not very good, but I like it a lot. I think it's amazing.
Speaker 4:Shut your mouth. So they did these different tnt based seismic quake uh tests and they found out that the earth, or the moon, is only 60 as dense as the earth. That doesn't mean the moon is hollow, with many things. It does suggest that there are hollow portions. Now, if there's hollow portions in the moon, who's to say that it's not completely hollow? We can't see it. These tests are kind of pointing towards the fact that it is um, so, but we'll from the what, what's up.
Speaker 4:I got questions, but continue to probably answer um so from this we have a bunch of different uh pieces of evidence that kind of back up the fact that the moon is hollow, like the question why does the moon ring like a bell?
Speaker 2:you know, right, yeah, like every morning at six o'clock the time is 4 am, um so apparently so.
Speaker 4:The moon is ringing like a bell. This phrase comes from somebody by the name of Clive R Neal, who's a professor of civil engineering and geological sciences at the University of Notre Dame.
Speaker 5:And he says there's an experiment.
Speaker 4:That's the best name I've ever heard. Apparently a NASA writer, notre Dame's, not a university, it's a cathedral.
Speaker 2:What the fuck bro.
Speaker 4:Well, maybe that's why you got a bad education.
Speaker 5:It houses a cathedral what the fuck, bro. Maybe that's why you got a bad education. It houses a hunchback Get your facts straight.
Speaker 4:God damn it.
Speaker 2:You're right, this guy's name.
Speaker 4:I'm pronouncing his name wrong. So this scientist, Quasimodo, professor of civil engineering and geological sciences at the University of Notre Dame. That sounds so much better, I believe in a lot more now.
Speaker 4:He says the experiment results in a NASA write-up. So these moonquake experiments end up creating a scientific journal entry written by the scientists at NASA, and it compares moonquake vibration to those of a tuning fork. Apparently they're fucking identical, which means the moon, every time a moonquake happens, is letting off a sound, and it sounds very similar to the ringing of a bell, sounds like the Taco Bell bell.
Speaker 4:Bong. Yeah, exactly, however, obviously you can't hear it with your own ears. Much like the, uh, the bloop. Remember when we, when we talked about that, we sped that shit up so fast because you heard the whole noise in 10 seconds. The entire noise takes like two minutes. It's fucking crazy, uh. But similarly it's the same patterns as a tuning fork, same I. I mean essentially you could hit this thing with different mega ton, mega tonnage of TNT and play fucking I don't know.
Speaker 3:Yeah exactly.
Speaker 4:Um and so, if I ever become a, billionaire.
Speaker 2:I'm funding launching things at the moon, so we can just make it go.
Speaker 1:Do do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do do why be Batman when you can do that you?
Speaker 3:have to explode it on the last note, do, do do do, do, do moon, moon.
Speaker 4:Okay. So another test that was run was we did these exact same seismic tests on earth just to be like you know what. Maybe the earth rings like a bell too. It doesn't Dang it, no vibrations of any like. There's no pattern to them, kind of like wavelengths from a note. So we can't really say that the Earth makes a noise like that. A lot of people have speculated that it's because of all the water on Earth. So we have all the scientific data to back up the fact that the moon not is hollow but might be hollow, rings like. It gives off sound vibrations like a bell, like a tuning fork, which means there is some airspace existent near the center of the moon. That's what that points to anyway. Um, we have these moonquakes and we see that the consistency of the density of the, the, I want to say the earth but like moon, earth doesn't sound good. Mirth, the mirth, um, the consistency is mirth, it's got a thick mirth, the moon it like it's.
Speaker 4:Like matt said, it's like jello or like jelly, like it's, it's just it's less compacted, simply because it weighs less. There's less gravity. There's almost no water on the moon. One might say there is no water on the fucking moon. We found ice. There's some ice in the ice caps. However, it's not a significant amount to actually affect any of this.
Speaker 4:So, with all of this talk about what's actually going on in the center of the moon, so we all know. Is it cheese? No, damn it. I mean, maybe it might be cheese. Yeah, it's dense enough. No, the center is not, but surrounded by cheese, maybe.
Speaker 4:Now we all know that the earth has a hollow core right and it's made of ice, and there's hundreds of flat earths on top of this giant ice ball. Oh yeah. And the center is made of a black hole. There's hundreds of flat earths on top of this giant ice ball. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And the center is made of a black hole roughly the size of Mars, and it's on top of a turtle, on top of a turtle, et cetera, et cetera. Well, this is theorized to be a failed experiment for another life-sustaining planet, simply because its proximity to Earth. How close it could be to just be like oh, it's proximity to earth, how close that we could. It could be to just be like, oh, it's fucked here, it takes what a month and a half to get there. Sure, that's fine, it's better than what 92 years to get to the, the closest life-bearing planet.
Speaker 2:And that's in light or the center of a tootsie pop or the center of a tootsie pop, who fucking knows.
Speaker 4:Last thing I'm going to talk about here is simply because we have not enough data to actually confirm any of this. There's a guy named Terry Herford and he's a NASA geophysicist and he's working on a new subsurface lunar investigation and monitoring equipment, or SUBLIME, which is what that stands for.
Speaker 2:I don't practice.
Speaker 1:I had a real let's let's actually, it lets you practice centering on the moon like without oxygen.
Speaker 4:I got you. It's just it's. It's a breakthrough in heuristic studies. It's fucking great.
Speaker 2:I'm a big old floating ball.
Speaker 4:So this thing apparently can actually map the moon's core and the reason this was invented is because of all the uncertainty around the fact that the moon might be hollow. Obviously, a lot of people have taken this and run with it because they just see the similarities like oh yeah, hollow earth, hollow moon. It's probably more aliens that live in there, Probably more aliens. Some people think that like Dulce Base 2. Some people think there's a teleporter inside Dulce base that gets you to the moon.
Speaker 2:Some people think that that's actually where the lizardification process takes place, because the Nazis are also oh, exactly, and like you said, there's ice caps on the moon for the Nazis to hide in yeah, it's a full circle. It's a full circle. Yeah, full circle, full sphere, if you will thank you for that.
Speaker 4:Um, so we are developing something to map the entirety, like, uh, top to bottom, inside and out of the moon, and I'm hoping that actually gets applied to earth as well, so we can actually see the fucking shape of it. So all these assholes that, oh, it's a, it's the shape of texas, but bigger, like I don't need to read any more bullshit, conspiracy theories now that how does this work? Because the moon is a hologram it's right in the name the moon is hollow oh my god oh my god literally right in the name.
Speaker 3:Oh, it's hollow and weighs a gram. Oh my God, we just blew the lid wide open. It was right there the whole fucking time. Those idiots that never even looked.
Speaker 4:If you guys have questions for me, feel free to ask. I might be able to answer them, but honestly there's not a huge what's up. Mike, what kind of cheese? Probably Vardy.
Speaker 2:Oh no, it's right there, it's Swiss. If the moon is hollow. What made it that way, though? They don't really go into that too much, but if we want to, well, there needs to be an explanation for why there's a giant hollow ball. Was it mind there?
Speaker 4:are several theories A big one's, aliens, that the moon is actually a generator of some sort and it needs to be able to move and the hyper-dense thing that's at the center of it is actually a generator of some sort, kind of like, uh, did you guys remember in the news that people, uh, or we, think that we have picked up the evidence of a mega structure that has been built around a star like this?
Speaker 5:don't talk about it stop it okay, that's my topic. Stop talking about.
Speaker 4:it sounds like we're about to hear all about that. Hey, hey, good segue. Yeah, holy shit, that's fucking awesome. So, yeah, that, actually it's very similar technology to a, uh, something called a Dyson sphere, which I'm sure in literally what my top several seconds we'll hear more about Um, and I think that they modeled these.
Speaker 4:They tried to basically take an already existing structure, a planet, and turn it into these things that are called dyson spheres, but I'm not going to ruin the surprise on what the fuck that is. Instead, I'll take a shot, because that's all I got cool, all right.
Speaker 3:Well, doug, that was a good bird scooter over to you, so you, you go tell me go go now cool, sick, yeah.
Speaker 5:So I just thought this was like a really neat, basically a hypothetical thought piece by a guy named Freeman Dyson. So, basically, it's a structure so massive and so advanced that what it is is it wraps around the entirety of a star just to collect the energy from it. Just to collect the energy from it. Um, it's a really cool idea in practice, or, I guess, on paper, uh, but it's not something that we can obviously do in practice quite yet. We're just not quite technologically there. Um, and scientists are actually looking for dyson spheres in space, like, not just like from us, like they're looking to see if other intelligent life has done this to other stars already. Because I mean, uh, one of the things that you have to understand is that the amount of energy that our sun gives off in a single second is more energy than we've ever used in the entirety of human life, yep, so if you can harness that.
Speaker 5:That's that that would be significant in advancing the human race right.
Speaker 3:Isn't that the plot to like sunshine or whatever. The movie is where this is like going out and they're like our power source no yeah oh we must contain it um so put a nuke at the sun, nuke the hurricane.
Speaker 5:So what exactly is a Dyson sphere? The basic definition is that it is a hypothetical megastructure that, completely or partially, will surround a star to capture all of the energy. It was made by a guy named Freeman Dyson in 1960. He just proposed this as a thought experiment and he didn't really suggest, hey, we should build this. But basically this thought piece of his was to consider how one might detect advanced alien civilizations. So there's a couple different forms that this Dyson sphere could take form of.
Speaker 5:And that's a Dyson swarm, which is basically a vast cloud of independent solar collectors or satellites orbiting a star. Um, this is like the most realistic version. So like, let's say, you just send like a shit ton of satellites around the sun, right, and they're just always completely collecting energy from it, um, that would make the most sense instead of building like a megastructure, right. Um, there's a Dyson ring, which is essentially what you would consider, I guess what they have in halo, where they, like you know, have that big ring around it and people live on it, which is really really really unfeasible. But it is what it is.
Speaker 3:Um, I love living in the ring around the sun, I get a tan. Yeah, I love living in the ring around the sun. I get a tan every day, just a constant battering of sunlight. I'm dead. Solar rays exploding your skull.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I mean, you'll see that a lot in sci-fi stuff. They're like what if we lived around the sun? Like really really, really close.
Speaker 2:And then there's a solid shellyson sphere and a 3pm plasma storm.
Speaker 5:The sun has totally destroyed our whole civilization. Once again, we'll be rebuilding on Thursday.
Speaker 2:West Mooresville was knocked off the map today.
Speaker 5:A solar flare killed little Timmy, alright. So. And then there's the solid shell dyson sphere, which is often shown in like sci-fi fantasy shit, where it's just like this big, impractical, full mega structure encasing a star. Um, this wouldn't work. It is a cool version, but it wouldn't work because it would just collapse under like its own gravity and like or be like just ripped to shreds by the sun's radiation. So it's just really not a smart idea. And yeah, get good idiots.
Speaker 3:Um use some shit from the fucking guy. Use some some stuff from the space menards. They have quality things.
Speaker 2:That thing's been hanging out in space for millions of years.
Speaker 5:Seriously, though, you're not wrong. And again, the goal isn't to live inside of these things, but it's to harvest the solar power from the sun. That's the main goal of a Dyson sphere. And then, obviously, why would we build one? Well, that's really easy. It's because we need energy, right, and if we had unlimited energy, we could do a lot of fun stuff. However, um, there's a few things, uh, in which we also were looking for them, so one of them is called the I'm gonna probably butcher this, but the kardashian scale not the kardashians?
Speaker 1:no, no, they're all there yeah yeah, how fat is this?
Speaker 5:is this son's ass? I don't know we're just making this digestible it's too heavy um, so there's three types in the kardashian scale, and this is the, the, the scale in which we use to measure a civilization's advancement based on the energy usage of their civilization. And type one they use all of the energy available on their home planet. We're not even there yet.
Speaker 3:Type two, where they can't have sugar that often. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5:That is true. Type two diabetes Basically type two is they use. Is that a power source? It is actually yeah.
Speaker 4:Is that how the Matrix started?
Speaker 5:We're learning, slowly but surely, how to harness diabetes for energy. So type 2 is actually, they use all of the energy output of its star. This is where we get into Dyson sphere territory, where we're actually using the sun for energy, uh. And then there's type three, where they harness energy at the scale of the entire galaxy, where they're putting out you know lots and lots and lots of dyson spheres, potentially right. We're just oh, there's a galaxy over there, let's harness the energy from that one. Um, and yeah. So again, these are all hypothetical things. We're just kind of using this to search for what could be right. Um, and obviously like, a good question is why would they want solar energy? Well, again, what I said is the sun puts out more energy in one fucking second.
Speaker 4:Doug just asked for my last email.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you don't gotta fucking sass me dude.
Speaker 1:I didn't bring it up, as I fucking said, as I said before you stupid, fucking.
Speaker 2:All right, doug's doing the podcast version of arguing, like having imaginary arguments in the shower.
Speaker 5:Seriously, though I must be like that's how I shower, seriously though that I, I must, I must be like that's how I think too, I'm like I would know, um, but yeah, so something stupid. Pretty much, I just, I just be mad at the things I be researching. I'm just like this stupid anyways.
Speaker 5:So could we ever build one is the biggest question, and it would take us fucking centuries from now to build one of these, um, a material at like a material need level. Uh, it could, you know, would require dismantling asteroids, moons and like even planets, like fucking mercury, to get enough raw material to be able to build something like this at this level.
Speaker 4:Imagine like the, the fucking sun, and you built something, a that was far away from it that bigger than our planet? Exactly, and it's. But it has to be far enough away from the surface that it doesn't just fucking disintegrate, but also at an effective level to gather energy, that's huge.
Speaker 5:The thing that I was thinking about when I was reading about this was like if we were let's say we wanted to build something around the sun, not only are we taking that much mass from the earth, that would require so much like the earth would be like depleted, just to do yeah thing.
Speaker 4:You know what I'm saying. Oh yeah, if we wanted to do this, we would exhaust every resource on earth, as well as most of, like, the kuiper belt, like oh, it's just, it's just so many, so much of a raw resource that you need yeah, it's really crazy and I mean it.
Speaker 5:could it happen eventually? Sure, but it would literally take hundreds of years from now for us to be able to feasibly do something like this. If time is no object, yeah, we could have it done but and and realistically, like right now, we're just like we can use space-based solar power stations and, like you know, I guess, asteroid mining, if it ever comes to it, um, for, like early building blocks, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean early building blocks, whatever you want to call it. Yeah I mean even like the space station that uh supports, like long-term life, it all uses solar.
Speaker 2:I mean, the biggest hurdle right now is uh global cooperation uh considering our own president is dumbass, but anyways, um so I think it would be better if we just powered it with coal you're right, wash it first.
Speaker 4:Make sure you wash it drill, baby drill yeah oh my god, I hate that.
Speaker 5:I saw that, but anyways. So you'll see a lot of this shit in, like Star Trek, halo. One of this I'm not super familiar with, but I know it from Magic the Gathering is Larry Niven's Ringworld. There's a card backwards.
Speaker 5:Yeah, nevin rolls, yeah yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about so, uh, as I mentioned before, we are looking for these things in space. Currently, we're trying to see if we can see this shit happening, and our team is called setI, or the search for extraterrestrial intelligence, and they actually are using this as a toolkit to decipher hey, um, does this planet, or does a planet nearby, or does this star? Is somebody using the star Right?
Speaker 1:Um, and basically, are you using this? Can I use?
Speaker 2:this real quick Are you?
Speaker 5:using that? Are you using that star? Um, basically, we, we can actually look for this shit Like we that. Are you using that star? Um, basically, we, we can actually look for this shit. Like we can look at a star and be like, hey, yeah, uh, it's light is dimming and I'm so happy you're talking about at such a weird pace that we're actually seeing a heat signal come off of it instead of a light signal, uh, which basically would mean that, uh, yeah, we'd have to use an infrared, like spectrum, to see it. But, um, sometimes stars like it's usually very, very uh, on par with how we look at stars. You can see a star glow and become dim and glow and become dim. But when the pattern actually stops working, that's when the scientists are like, okay, there's something here or something's happening here that could be a dyson sphere, right? Um, so we actually found a star that's doing this and it's not far away uh, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5:I I mean it's, that's a broad statement. It's pretty far away but relatively close comparatively yeah yes, um, it's called tabby's star, and in 2015, uh, the star showed really strange dimming patterns and we, for a while, speculated that it was a dyson swarm not a sphere, but a swarm. So we thought that this star had a bunch of satellites orbiting it, collecting the energy from it, and then, of course, as anything comes to anything, uh, turned out to be just a bunch of fucking dust around the star.
Speaker 5:There's just a shit ton of dust and that kind of sucks dirty dirty star, but uh, that being said, we haven't found anything else since that vacuuming it up bro you ever hear. The term sucks like a dyson.
Speaker 3:Yeah I was waiting for the connection. I didn't know where it was gonna be, and here it is um, yeah, so, uh, some other just like theoretical bullshit with this.
Speaker 5:Um, there's something called the matryoshka brain. Matryoshka, if you're, yeah russian nesting dolls. Um, so they think that if we were to do something like this, we we could make this Matryoshka brain, which is a supercomputer structure using nested Dyson shells to power massive AI computer generators.
Speaker 2:Bro, think about the AI gooning material you could generate with that motherfucker.
Speaker 5:Oh my goodness, you could just goon yourself into an explosion.
Speaker 4:You could create a matrix for all of humanity and put them in it to simulate life. Just saying Weird. I think we can fucking do that.
Speaker 5:Wait, wait wait Back to the gooning. But yeah, no, that's one theoretical offshoot of these Dyson spheres. And then the other one is that if we get advanced enough, we could kind of do that, but with a black hole where we would siphon the energy of a black hole which people still don't even really know why black holes exist. So you know, there's that whole thing.
Speaker 5:But that's what Doug just said about the black hole that is, the theory that is both applied to Hollow Earth and the Hollow Moon is that there is some kind of harnessed black hole inside them yeah, it's, it's really bizarre they're just sucking things out I I forget what it was my I was talking to mike, uh, the other day at work and I was like man, I've been looking at like so much crazy space shit and I was like, uh, I was like yeah, people are just the universe's way of taking a step back to teach itself about itself. And I was like, uh, I was like yeah, people are just the universe's way of taking a step back to teach itself about itself.
Speaker 4:And I was just like yeah, my brain whoa yep, the crazy part is, we don't even know that's happening until you just said it.
Speaker 5:Well, yeah, I mean it's really weird, like anyways, that's for another discussion or topic or something that's for the next episode, because that's covered in my subreddit. Oh nice. Other than that, yeah, these spheres, they're not just crazy sci-fi, made-up bullshit. It's something that could theoretically be something that we come across and, yeah, I think it's pretty cool. Do you guys think this is the future man? Is this the future of the future?
Speaker 4:We don't believe in the Matrix, it's just the present.
Speaker 5:Everybody put your hand in Dyson, sphere on three. No, that's all I got, though. I just thought it was a neat concept. It's pretty cool to think about Less brain bending than some of the shit I was looking at, but you know, hell yeah bro.
Speaker 4:Matt, I'm so happy at how congruently and smoothly our topics have flowed into each other. Matt, what do you got?
Speaker 2:Yeah, finish us off. Finish me off, dude. I'm tying us back to the last two weeks of content and moving forward next week because I can't apparently fucking get away from new age religion bullshit, because it's all mixed up so what I'm talking about today is nibiru, which you may have heard of before. It's pretty uh in popular culture. Um, it's also referred to sort of as Planet X, but we'll get into that later.
Speaker 3:Fucking Elon there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4:It's already made for him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what he's going to rename Mars when he nukes it, so Paraphobic. Nibiru is a planet that was brought up by a man named Zachariah. Yeah, are they Amish.
Speaker 2:I fucking hope so, ezekiel come look at my oscilloscope, I found a planet he's Jewish and I think he's from Baku, so this is a guy who was a writer and he made up a bunch of shit like he this guy has a very extensive catalog of writings and he sold like millions of books on this shit but he claimed that humans were brought to earth by ancient astronauts and, to be specific, he claimed that the earliest human civilizations could be attributed to something called the Anunnaki, which is a race of aliens from a planet called Nibiru. And so, basically, nibiru is this planet that orbits around.
Speaker 4:Yes, you have shared to the gods. Oh sorry, matt, sorry, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2:I wasn't looking at my video, so I had no idea what the fuck was going on.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm so sorry, doug just gave the fuck was going on. Yeah, I'm so sorry. Doug just gave me half a chub.
Speaker 5:This book is awesome. It's just literally about exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but basically Nibiru is this planet that is, another planet in our solar system that they actually call the 12th planet, because this guy has an entire explanation for every single rock that's in our fucking solar system and apparently nibiru is actually the 12th planet and earth slammed in nibiru like something that used to be that slammed into something else and earth broke off from it. But anyway, nibiru, as it is now, is this planet that orbits way far out from our solar system, but it follows like an oval pattern and so it goes way the fuck out and then it comes way the fuck back in and apparently just like zooms past earth every 3,600 years and then flies like into the center of the solar system and then flies way back out and then it comes back and then comes back.
Speaker 2:So, um, so this ties into this guy's theory of human beings, because he claims that when Earth split off from Nibiru, the Anunnaki actually sent people to Earth to collect resources. And they were like man, this shit sucks, so we're going to fucking make a race of slaves. And so they took Homo erectus, which apparently had independently evolved on Earth, and then they took some of their DNA and they just fucking shoved it in there, and then that made us. And then they were like oh, you'll be our slaves and collect resources from us.
Speaker 4:This sounds so fucking similar to Shogos and shit.
Speaker 2:He cites a lot of different things for this. He cites ancient texts, and the Bible comes up a lot in this. There are some questions. The first one that I asked was if Nibiru is just flying through space and rapidly going away from the sun and then coming back, how do things survive on it? Because wouldn't that rapidly fluctuate the climate and the atmosphere? Well, apparently there's so much heat from radioactive decay that's happening because of like radioactive material that's on nabir that it's just constantly keeping the planet warm, but like at a constant rate.
Speaker 2:For somehow, um oh yeah, that doesn't make any sense the thing that I the other thing that, uh, I didn't see like a good explanation for was how, how he explains like the wild improbability that things independently evolved on earth at basically exactly the same time that they were evolving on nabiru except nabiru things evolved faster because they had more resources and the climate was more habitable and I don't know but the wild improbability of them being like oh, go, get resources from that planet. Oh, there just happens to be this race of perfectly enslaveable human-like things that we can fuck with. I couldn't find an explanation for that, but maybe it's fucking somewhere in there.
Speaker 5:Um, this is literally Scientology light.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it is like the divergent. I think it might be.
Speaker 2:Scientology extra actually.
Speaker 5:It's very it's similar but it does.
Speaker 4:it does lead into, like the, the galactic hierarchy of beings, which, oh, that's a whole other thing.
Speaker 5:Everybody, everybody watched hierarchy of beings, which that's a whole other thing. Everybody watch South Park, season 7, episode 1, I believe, where planet earth exactly where it is yeah, it's earth is a TV show did you get it?
Speaker 2:did you look it up? Is it right?
Speaker 5:no, I have not looked it up, I just I guessed. What did you say? It was season 7, episode 1, or maybe it's season 10 up, is it right? No, I have not looked it up, I just guessed.
Speaker 2:What did you say? It was?
Speaker 1:Season 7, Episode 1?.
Speaker 5:Or maybe it's Season 10, Episode 7? I don't know.
Speaker 2:No, you're wrong. Season 7, episode 1 is cancelled, but anyway.
Speaker 5:No, that's it With the space, where the Earth is a planet.
Speaker 1:Oh, Cartman gets an anal.
Speaker 5:Yes, yeah you are.
Speaker 2:Good job.
Speaker 5:Yeah, stick your finger in my thresher, tuck my jag on. That's the takeaway from that.
Speaker 4:Anyway, I love how we can talk about this shit and just devolve it into like the most basic, primal shit. It's bad.
Speaker 2:Basically, though, mike had initially told us to look up conspiracy theories related to space. So you say, how is this a conspiracy theory? This is just some guy's theory of the evolution of people and the solar system and stuff. Well, it becomes a conspiracy theory when a woman by the name of Nancy Leder Leder comes into play in 1995. And this lady claims that she was a, or claims she's dead now, but she claimed that. Thank you, windows, I appreciate the fucking updates you want to fucking install for me right now. Nancy claimed that she was a contactee that had the ability to receive messages in her brain using an implant, and this. I started reading this and I was like this is just lisa renee, all over again it's it's like exactly the same fucking thing we can't escape it, yeah.
Speaker 2:But she claimed that she had the ability to receive messages using an implant in her brain. Yeah, she claimed that she could talk to Zadens, which were aliens from the star system Zeta Reticuli.
Speaker 4:So she founded a website called Zeta Talk. Yes.
Speaker 5:Doug, that's from the Serpo, right. Yeah, all right. So she founded a website called ZetaTalk. Yes, doug, that's from the Serpo, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So she founded a website called ZetaTalk where all of her fucking followers and stuff could go talk about this shit.
Speaker 2:But she claimed that this planet that she called Planet X, but it really came from it's Nibiru, that she called Planet X, but it really came from it's Nibiru. She took a lot of inspiration from the guy who wrote Zechariah and she claimed that this planet that's out there flying around just outside of our solar system was going to fly back in and come close enough to the Earth to destabilize its gravitational orbit so bad that it would flip upside down very suddenly and cause a cataclysmic event, and that the Zadens were telling her that this was going to happen. She actually initially claimed that. So the Hale-Bopp comet that Doug talked about earlier, that was a thing that was happening in 97, and she was like, hey, that is actually a distraction by NASA to distract us from the fact that this planet is hurtling towards us and is going to kill us all. And she claimed that this was going to happen and turn Earth upside down in 2003. Now you might be saying, well, it's not 2003 anymore and we didn't all die. So what happened?
Speaker 2:well, that came and went and then she just kind of like deleted some of her claims like part of her claims she was like, because her initial statement was that the comet didn't exist at all and that it was a fraud, uh, perpetuated by those who have the teeming masses uh, I don't know how to fucking pronounce that word, but anyway, she, she claimed that the the comet didn't exist. And then the comet totally existed because everybody could fucking see it and like took pictures of it and shit. And if you look up the hell bop comet, you'll find lots of pictures of it. And she just like quietly deleted that part. And then she was like, um, so I lied, she was like I just it's still gonna happen, but I'm not gonna tell you when. And everybody was like what. And she was like probably, if you give me money, maybe, maybe, eventually I'll tell you.
Speaker 3:I may help me recall some things.
Speaker 4:After 12 easy payments of $58.93.
Speaker 2:And then she fucking died. Wow, rude. And so but the story and the idea didn't die with her, though, because a bunch of people tied this to like the 2012 apocalypse shit, where the mayan calendar was supposed to end in december of 2012 and then that didn't happen, um and then I have, that's the whole other thing I could talk about?
Speaker 2:yeah and that shit was so funny to me when it happened same and then somebody else picked it up and they were like well, it's actually going to happen in 2017 instead because of a bunch of these numbers that I added up from the bible. And then that didn't happen. And then that that person changed the the week that it was going to happen by like a couple of weeks. They were like, oh well, it was supposed to happen in september, instead it's going to happen by like a couple of weeks. They're like oh well, it was supposed to happen in september, instead it's going to happen on like september 23rd or something like that. Well, never mind the fact that, like if we're two weeks out from a gigantic planet hurtling at earth, you'll know, yeah
Speaker 2:somebody's gonna notice right, exactly. Um, that brings up a lot of actual physical issues with this, which is, first and foremost, if you've got this gigantic planet that's on this or this orbit going around the sun one, the orbit that it supposedly follows isn't super possible, but it would also be affecting the gravitational fields yeah, of like because it passes through all of them right. So you've got this like gigantic earth.
Speaker 4:It would also be affecting the gravitational fields of planets, because it passes through all of them.
Speaker 2:Right. So you've got this gigantic, earth-sized thing hurtling through the center of the solar system. Because, think about this If something is going out far enough that we don't even know it exists anymore, and then coming back at a rate of speed so close that it's going to affect the Earth, that motherfucker is booking it.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, so close that it's going to affect the Earth. That motherfucker is booking it.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, to be fair and for that to just like hurdle through the center of the solar system and not fuck anything up almost impossible. How often do they say it happened?
Speaker 4:Every 3,600 years.
Speaker 2:Every 3,600 years. Now here's the thing. He claimed that according to all of the texts that he deciphered, and shit. Well, I'm going back to Zachariah Zachariah Steichen now.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:He claimed that, because of all the stuff that he um decoded and shit, this had actually happened before on uh at five 556 BC. Now, if a planet the size of earth has hurtled through our solar system that recently, it's gonna destabilize like it's gonna fuck right we're gonna be able to see that in the orbit of the planets, but it'd be weird.
Speaker 2:Our years would be off right. He claims that it passed close to earth on that year too, so for that to have happened, there would have had to have been like a gigantic. The best case scenario is that there's a gigantic shift in the earth's climate, like it's gonna pull it a couple miles away from the sun, which is gonna drastically apocalyptic. It's gonna drastically alter global temperatures and things like that. And this wasn't that long ago, like this was 2500 years ago, which there would some. There would be some evidence that this happened.
Speaker 3:Someone would have written something down saying oh, did you see that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, or there would be, like we'd be, likely scenario is that it would shift the orbit so much that, like either earth would fly off into the into space or it would like fly into the sun, because if you've got something with that much mass, those are the two options that moving, that quickly it's going to. Things are going to shift around, yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, quickly it's gonna. Things are gonna shift around. Yeah, um, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2:Science is pretty, pretty conclusive when it comes to the numbers and what would happen if, if orbits shift right so, um, there's a lot of claims that there are planets like this that are flying around outside the solar system at some distance that apparently we can't detect them because, um, it would have to be so far out that it's not having any effect on the uh, like the orbits of the planets and stuff like that at all, because we'd be able to detect it.
Speaker 2:It would also alter if, when we shoot things away from the earth, it would alter the trajectory that they take, and whenever nasa shoots stuff into space, they don't take into account that nabiru is out there flying at 2400 kilometers per second, which I think, yeah, I found this person calculated to back up these claims. It would have to be moving at 2400 kilometers per second, which is actually faster than the escape velocity of our entire solar system, which means it would be impossible for something to be moving this quickly and actually stay in orbit with the sun For more than like several rotations For at all. It was like right To back up his claim that it is that now it's so far away we can't see it, and in two years or whatever it it's going to be this close to the earth it would have to be moving so fast that the gravitational pull of the sun cannot pull it back in.
Speaker 2:It will just be going so fast, it'll just launch out in science?
Speaker 4:there's no way.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, so those be the issues, jesus, and basically this is impossible, but it's fun to think about it is fun to think about I know, I actually had planned on going over this as well, the Nibiru, planet X stuff.
Speaker 4:I'm happy I went over Hollow Moon because it fucking segued perfectly off yours. But yeah, I was reading up all about the Anunnaki and how the kind of hand they had in our evolution and the ties we have can segue perfectly off yours. But yeah, I was reading up all about the anunnaki and like how the kind of hand they had in our evolution and the ties we have to them, simply because we used to be a part of their planet, like it's all. It's super interesting shit, like they'd be there's a whole thing about the anunnaki.
Speaker 5:They they basically protect us right now from like uh yeah, I forget if it's the tall greys or the short greys, but um basically, yeah, whatever, whichever ones are the more aggressive ones, uh, the Anunnaki, like have our back right now.
Speaker 4:Uh, it's cause they consider us to be like a different offshoot of the same evolutionary tree simply because we used to be like, we literally used to be a part of their world.
Speaker 5:according to this theory, yeah, cause we have like, apparently, according to this theory. Yeah, because we have like, apparently human dna actually has like a like a couple alien races like dna's in it. Um, at least people theorize that we're like, uh, a mixture of like three or four or something. It's like. It's really fucking weird, but you can get some. Really you can get really deep into this shit if you look hard you want to have an existential crisis real quick.
Speaker 5:No, thank you, yeah it's a lot of fun to read about, but two things I didn't mention are I mentioned.
Speaker 2:How is this a conspiracy? Well, the conspiracy here really is that nasa is covering this up. They claim that there are people who claim that, yes, this thing is hurtling towards us, and nasa is just like pretending it doesn't exist, basically, and like altering the data and stuff to claim that it's not happening. Um, the other thing that I meant to mention was that a lot of this stuff comes from um. This guy who was a scientist, who claimed that there was discrepancies in Neptune and Uranus's orbit, that it didn't add up, that, like when you take the mass of Neptune and Uranus and um, like calculate we're not going to make it through this when you take when you take the
Speaker 2:calculate the Kardashian scale of yeah of Uranus.
Speaker 3:I just look up and see Doug just.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then try to calculate their orbit. It's not quite right. And this actually went on for like hundreds, like a couple hundred years I think, and people were. Eventually somebody was like, hey, you got the mass of Neptune wrong, my guy. And then they changed the calculation and they were like, yeah, it adds up. There's no discrepancy.
Speaker 4:Oh no we thought about it and you're wrong actually.
Speaker 5:It didn't happen. Actually, your anus is much larger than you noted previously.
Speaker 4:The amount of gape. That's been observed.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 3:You didn't account for the blood implants.
Speaker 5:They've got type 2 diabetes and they are underweight, being advanced civilization Just ask Uranus.
Speaker 3:Well, how do you come back from that, Other than saying let the Kardashians come on their back. There it is. Gosh gee dang. How do you come back from that, other than saying let the Kardashians they had come on their back. All right, there it is. Um, gosh gee dang. Uh, if you want to find us on social medias, you can do that Bless you. You can do that. You can do it. You just just look up diluty pod or don't look at the internet anywhere. We're there anywhere, fucking google the loony.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's like we're the first 100 hits or some shit yeah, uh, youtube is.
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Speaker 3:Give, give mail, give, give give mail. Uh, other than that, I just want to say, uh, if you find satellites and you think a UFO hit them, it's probably not a ufo, it's me, and the satellite is the cum I wrote in on the satellite is your, your father and I am making out, making out with him there. It is sure we're going that route. I had nothing. I had nothing.
Speaker 4:This was awful that was not obvious get me out of here, jason uh, as fucking always, especially when we talk about these conspiracies, stay goddamn paranoid. Who knows how many lists you're on now. You've heard all about the secrets of the moon and the other moon and the other moon and the other moon and Nibiru. Yeah, yeah, just stay paranoid. Moot and cheers, are we?
Speaker 3:Are we Doug?
Speaker 5:I'd rather be playing oblivion, there it is well everybody.
Speaker 3:Uh, thank you for joining us. Have a wonderful day, but we don't love you, dude.
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