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DLUTI 204 - The Philadelphia Experiment
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don't look under the internet oh shit, that's what I'm talking about. Keep all that in hello. Everyone welcome to. Don't look under the internet. Barbara streisand's favorite podcast. She said it herself. Has it written down. She talked to GQ magazine about it. That's Doug right up there or somewhere. That's Jason somewhere as well. Yeah, I'm up here. I'm above you, doug. You have to say something. Hey, all right, I'll do it. I'll do it a little. And there's Matt.
Speaker 2:You're going to hear it. Barbra Streisand, these are there, matt. Barbara Streisand, these are there.
Speaker 3:Barbara Streisand, and I'm Barbara Streisand and I have my Barbara Streisand on the trigger ready to go. Have you heard the song, barbara Streisand? Yes, everyone's heard that song. Everyone's heard Barbara Streisandy. Alright, sing it then Barbara Streisand. Alright, sing it. Then Barbara Streisand, do, do, do, do do do, got it in one. Um.
Speaker 2:Barbara Streisand is 83, so we're really running A risk of running into another.
Speaker 3:Oh no, barbara, do me a favor. I need you to die like right now.
Speaker 2:We already killed Betty White. You can't break the street.
Speaker 4:Otherwise you'll make it somebody else's fault.
Speaker 3:We've done a couple of these where it's just like, yep, they're dead. Now it's the Deluty curse. Anyway, I'm going to start today off with a little bit of Deluty.
Speaker 1:Housekeeping Housekeeping's fun House above my head, head Above Mike's head, our house.
Speaker 3:So I'm gonna give a big old shout out let's play the game. Is your name good?
Speaker 4:Is your name good?
Speaker 3:I don't know. Let's find out. This is the segment of the show where we list off the name Of people who give money and we're gonna judge the name, because that's what you do to people that give you money you beat them down.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you punch them squarely in the throat.
Speaker 3:We're going to judge how creative these names are Ready. First one, Isabella Perez.
Speaker 2:That's just your name.
Speaker 3:That's just your name.
Speaker 5:Cancel and re-sign up.
Speaker 3:But give more money this time around.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, more money. You gotta pay a fee for signing up with your real name, fix this.
Speaker 5:We should make this like an exclusive thing where, like, if you sign up for Patreon one time and you leave, you can never come back, and then maybe people will be like I need to change my name, or we would just be a lot less money yeah, the bad business model part of that one is coming out no repeat customers.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna give, I mean, isabella Perez yeah, it's not the most creative name, but you're giving us money. I'm gonna give you two out of five it is your name, it's not like an ugly name.
Speaker 4:So like you got a good name I'm going to give you two out of five.
Speaker 2:It is your name, it is your name? It's not like an ugly name.
Speaker 4:So like you got a good name.
Speaker 3:It's not like Gertrude Rubio, it's not Lilith Shugunan Shunt Like Gort Frumpus or some shit like that we also have. I don't remember if I shouted this one out before or not, so I'm going to do it now. Gizimo, gizimo, gizimo.
Speaker 2:Gizimo.
Speaker 3:Gizimo, gizimo.
Speaker 2:Mike can't pronounce it, so I'm giving it like a 6 just on that alone.
Speaker 4:That's how you know it's good you start the scale at 5 once you know, but you can't pronounce it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, boys, that's going to conclude housekeeping, housekeeping over Boys Woo. Last time we got together we talked about underwater mysteries and I thought that was very fun. But I figured what if we talked about a mystery that floats on water? You know what they say Float like a boat, sting like the state of Philadelphia, you know.
Speaker 4:The state. Keep going, Mike. There's too much there to address right now.
Speaker 2:You mean you could fly like an eagle, like the Philadelphia Eagles yeah.
Speaker 3:There you go, or or like seal, which is a water piece. There's so many connections here. We're talking about not the fucking cheesesteak. No, they're talking about the philadelphia experiment, which could be how the cheesesteak was created. I guess we'll find out if you listen.
Speaker 4:We'll give you all the sources. We'll show you the way.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly yeah. I've been wanting to talk about this for a while. I like the concept of the Philadelphia experiment. I find it very enjoyable. I like these stupid little I mean it's not stupid, what? Uh, I like these totally totally real, totally real things absolutely legitimate yeah, um. So I guess where do we start if not the beginning?
Speaker 4:absolutely. Um, I'm guessing you guys might want to know what the fuck the Philadelphia experiment is. It's not like the thing that led to the cream cheese.
Speaker 2:I think they just like force fed somebody a bunch of Cream cheese just to see what happens.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's like that one test from the movie Seven, where you just force feed them spaghetti, but Sponsored by Philadelphia cream cheese.
Speaker 2:Or they force you to fuck a prostitute, but the prostitute is cream cheese just a giant, human sized glob of cream cheese.
Speaker 3:I want to know what the control group looks like in that experiment.
Speaker 4:Anyway, philadelphia experiment is none of those things. Um, allegedly, allegedly, uh, was a top secret government project and it was also codenamed operation rainbow, and it was carried out under the auspices of who albert einstein in accordance with his unified field theory. Um, one thing that we kind of know about the us right around the mid 40s to late 40s is that they were definitely bidding on, uh, german scientists because they were going nuts, dude, dude. A lot of them wanted to get out of Nazi Germany, and so the US kind of took that as hey, we can steal their brains. I wonder why they wanted to leave.
Speaker 4:You know, Matt, I'm not sure you can actually Google this and verify the actual reason for that anymore.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what was going on in Germany at this?
Speaker 4:time you look at, if you look on the internet currently in this country, it'll probably something say, something about a big misunderstanding.
Speaker 5:Um the example america today?
Speaker 4:yeah, correct um, so we were snatching up nazi scientists because, you know, nazi intelligence is still intelligence, apparently and so we were trying to take advantage of all of the scientific breakthroughs that they offered to Hitler and the Nazi army during World War II, and so one of the things they incorporated was Albert Einstein's unified field theory, which is one of the things that actually helped us win World War II I don't want to say win, because I really don't think there were any winners of that war. It allowed us to drop two fucking nuclear bombs on a country, the American economy.
Speaker 3:We fucking won the.
Speaker 4:American economy did one, Blackstone Industries won is what happened.
Speaker 5:Back to back World War champs. Am I right?
Speaker 4:Jesus Christ. So Albert Einstein's unified field theory, why? Why are we even talking about this? This was a theory, that was. It helped shape a lot of tech that we have now and you're going to see some. So you know, as I said, operation Rainbow. It's going to cross with something called Project Rainbow, which is an actual US stealth program. Project Rainbow, operation Rainbow. So youS stealth program, project Rainbow, operation Rainbow. So you can kind of see where this is heading.
Speaker 4:Operation Rainbow was aimed at figuring out how to basically bend light around objects, therefore rendering them invisible. That was the basis of this technology, using Albert Einstein's unified field theory as a basis for the science behind it. They really were looking for an advantage to win the Battle of the Atlantic, and so, apparently, on October 28th 1943, this new invisibility tech was fitted onto the USS Eldridge, which was docked at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard. It said that those on nearby ships witnessed the generators of the Eldridge, which was docked at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard. It said that those on nearby ships witnessed the generators of the Eldridge begin to hum. Apparently, there was this green-blue hue that was emanated from the destroyer's hull and in an instant, the ship simply vanished, it said. The ship reappeared again just as suddenly, but only after it was spotted materializing out of thin air over 200 miles away at Norfolk Naval Shipyard in Virginia, before vanished, before then vanishing a second time and apparently reappearing back at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard.
Speaker 3:It also like appeared like 10 minutes before in Norfolk or something like that. It was like a weird time travel thing happened as well.
Speaker 4:Yeah, there's a lot of different anomalies around every piece of information about this. According to some of the accounts that were actually taken seriously, some of the unspecified quote-unquote researchers thought that a theory of this, like the unified field theory, would allow large electrical generators to bend light around an object via refraction, so that the object would be completely invisible, and the Navy obviously regards this, as you know, something of military value, and so they funded it. Another unattributed version of the story proposes that the researchers were preparing magnetic and gravitational measurements of the seafloor to detect anomalies, supposedly based on Einstein's attempts to understand gravity. Again, einstein is, either way, einstein's a part of this whole experience. The only reason we know any of this, though, is actually because of one man who gave an eyewitness account, is actually because of one man who gave an eyewitness account, and the only reason he could give that is simply because he was stationed on the SS Andrew Feruseth, which was a ship that was stationed in Norfolk, the Norfolk shipyard or naval shipyard. Where do you think?
Speaker 4:they come up with the names for boats, I don't know.
Speaker 2:A lot of times they're like old military dudes.
Speaker 3:Is it like an honor when it's like you were so good at military?
Speaker 2:here's a boat and you're a person who died A lot of times, it is.
Speaker 3:I like how this one is specifically Aldrich, though I know I like that connection too. I wonder if it was on purpose or not.
Speaker 2:Sometimes it's.
Speaker 5:Lovecraft and Cthulhu.
Speaker 2:What did you say, matt? Sometimes it's like Old General, sometimes it's names of battles, so like if there were battles, oh yeah, and sometimes it's just like named after towns and shit Usually names of like significant military leaders.
Speaker 3:That one was named after a lieutenant.
Speaker 5:Very dad core of you, matt, yeah, I just looked it up it was named after a lieutenant commander.
Speaker 2:John.
Speaker 4:Eldridge.
Speaker 3:John Eldridge Boy. Am I the dad here or are you? I love documentaries on old boats.
Speaker 4:It's just my favorite thing. Yeah, this guy. He's stationed on this other boat that apparently saw this fucking other ship appear and disappear, and apparently he also has documented evidence that the actual media had tried to report on this incident. And this man's name is Carl Allen.
Speaker 2:I'm just going to toss this over to you, matt, so in 1955, carl Allen, an ex-merchant mariner, sent an anonymous package marked Happy Easter containing a copy of Morris Jessup's book the Case for the UFO Unidentified Flying Objects to the US Office of Naval Research. So this book in particular is incredibly popular among alien enthusiasts because it's written by an actual science guy uh, morris Jessup, who was a doctor in astrophysics astrophysics and this was actually one of like the first times that a real member of the scientific community seriously considered or wrote about the possibility of there being alien life and transportation that has made it to Earth. So I guess, even to today this is a pretty significant book in the alien weirdos community. So this copy of the book that was shipped to the Office of Naval Research was filled with handwritten notes in its margins. Naval Research was filled with handwritten notes in its margins, and so they were written in blue ink and they appeared to like detail accounts of several different people.
Speaker 2:But, like Jason said, they basically cemented Jessup's ideas about propulsion, flying saucers, alien races and stuff from the perspective of this Carl Allen, who claims that he was stationed on this ship and saw all this shit happen. So Carl also sent a series of letters to Jessup himself, the author of the book, which were actually signed Carlos Allende, where he claimed to have witnessed firsthand these things that involved the Philadelphia experiment. And Jessup was actually able to determine that these letters from this Carlos Allende and Carl Allen were from the same person, because the Navy actually invited Jessup to come look at this copy of the book that they had been sent and he was able to compare the notes that were in the book and the writings on the letters that he had been sent and determined that they were actually sent from the same person he also didn't do the best job of changing the name right he was just like what if I put a little bit like a hispanic twang?
Speaker 3:yeah yeah, really bad. Well, he has a bunch of other names. He goes by too, that I'll list later.
Speaker 2:But he was just like what if I put a little bit of Hispanic slang? Really bad. Well, he has a bunch of other names. He goes by too. That I'll list later.
Speaker 3:Like Carly, alendi Carla.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's not real. He had some creative ideas about things but he definitely wasn't creative with his naming and, like the other peoples that he mentions in the books, just have totally fake sounding names that I didn't write down but they were like really stupid sounding but this is real. So when Joseph actually wrote back to Carlos Allende requesting more information to be recovered and then he referred him to what appeared to be a non-existent Philadelphia newspaper article that Alan claimed that he that existed, that covered the incident, so I guess that was the, the documentation or the like the writing that Jason mentioned. But as far as I have that, if you want it, it exists, because what I from what I could tell, the one that he mentioned in this response did not actually exist or nobody could tell that it actually existed.
Speaker 4:I can give you the thing that he claims existed, but but, but is it like actually a copy of the thing? Copy of the thing. Uh, no, it is a, it is, I mean it. It was a scrap of paper that looked like it might have been torn from a place, that may have been attached to other paper that contains articles.
Speaker 2:So there's no corroborating evidence that this actually is that's good enough for me?
Speaker 4:I know, but he said it was. He said it was torn out of a newspaper. How is that not good enough for you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, see, the thing about newspapers is usually they make copies of them, they don't just write one.
Speaker 4:The other thing, the fucking, the article that he's even referencing, which, yes, you are correct, there is no corroborating evidence. No one else can find this article, quote unquote, but all it does is it talks about a brawl that happens in a like a bar near the US Navy docks, and they got a surprise to find the place was completely empty and two people had disappeared. And then there was a weird. It was a huge boom they heard, and that was about it.
Speaker 2:That's the whole article. Oh, OK.
Speaker 4:That's the, that's the corroborating media that corroborates the whole thing that the ship teleported and came back.
Speaker 2:Okay, I guess, obviously. Anyway. So in these notes to Jessup, alan details that or explains to Jessup that he thinks he's in danger because he has gotten too close to figuring out the secrets of alien travel and that he knows too much. And not to ruin Mike's part later, but this is maybe corroborated- later on, when Jessup gets found dead by asphyxiation in his car later, like a year later. And did he do it? Did somebody?
Speaker 2:else undid it. Anyway, who's to say yeah? Who's to say so? Carl goes by several other names and, like a bunch of other writings and notes that he sends out over the years, he goes by Senor, Professor and Colonel Carlos Miguel Cristofero Allende.
Speaker 3:Jesus Christ. This guy was just like Yo soy el professor.
Speaker 2:One time he claimed to be. This is the only one that's not even close to his name Vernier Von Braun and Dr Carl.
Speaker 4:Areier.
Speaker 2:Von Braun and Dr Carl. Are you kidding me, dr Carl? Meredith Allenstein, yeah, Dr Carl Meredith. Allenstein.
Speaker 4:You're putting your real name in your fake names?
Speaker 3:Isn't Vernier Von Braun a Nazi?
Speaker 2:guy, yeah, a British rocket engineer.
Speaker 5:Yeah, he also, I think, worked with Disney.
Speaker 2:Oh no, I'm sorry, I misread this. He wrote to Werner Von Braun. Oh, okay. Under the name Dr Carl Murdit Allenstein there it is again.
Speaker 3:Karl Allenstein.
Speaker 2:So he has to fucking just leave his name in there so he decided he decided to make up a fake German sounding name that was basically his name to write to the German guy. I think it's an ego thing, yeah. Karl died in 1994, and he was not a doctor either, so we have no way of actually verifying anything now. We are left with what he wrote and claimed over the years.
Speaker 4:Oh damn.
Speaker 2:Do I want to spoil what he has said about his own claims over the years, or is somebody going to get into that later?
Speaker 3:No, I don't get into it if you want to.
Speaker 5:He has repeatedly- claimed a few things he.
Speaker 2:He says he made it up, and then when he's asked about it later, he's like, no, I didn't make it up. And then somebody else asked and he's like, oh yeah, I made that up. And then later he's like, no, I definitely didn't make it up, so who's?
Speaker 4:to say it's just a professional gaslighter I mean, isn't that like the best way of like building credibility, though? Because you can't prove or disprove it, so you have to go find the evidence who the fuck? Knows nothing, saying there is a potato.
Speaker 3:Oh my god, carl allen, you fucking figure it out anyway, and figure it out.
Speaker 4:So let's try to fucking figure it out, you fucking figure it out.
Speaker 2:So let's try to fucking figure it out. Does anybody have any more information about what exactly happened during this alleged maybe thing that happened, that somebody didn't or did make up?
Speaker 5:Yeah, so I'm going to reiterate some things that Jason already kind of said. But basically a TLDR of that is that obviously we were testing unified field theory. We wanted to bend some electromagnet fields around the ship, making it visible when we flipped the switch. Witnesses claimed that there was this big glowing green-blue haze around the ship. And then accounts say that the ship went from Philadelphia to Norfolk, virginia Goddamn say that. The ship went from Philadelphia to Norfolk, virginia Goddamn say that 20 times fast. After a few minutes it reappeared back in Philadelphia.
Speaker 5:However, according to the story, the Navy covered up a lot of the incident and quietly transferred surviving crews to other assignments and erased records of the experiment altogether. So essentially that's what happened to the ship, or so we were told. Um, but we do have some accounts of like what scientists saw when they actually got on to the ship after the experiment. So when they came aboard they found several sailors were partially embedded into the ship's metal Arms, legs, torsos, all fused into bulkheads and the decks, as if the ship had kind of swallowed them almost. So just kind of half in and out.
Speaker 5:Some men were stuck inside of walls. They said there was a lot of people just screaming in agony. Others were just simply missing. Crew members were just never found. They were just unaccounted for. Some were just like babbling incoherently and catatonic, like their brains had been like totally scrambled. Some went insane on the spot, unable to process all the events of like what transpired before them. Some survivors later experienced freezing moments where they would vanish in the thin air and then reappear not knowing what had just happened. Can you imagine?
Speaker 3:that You're just shopping at Kohl's and then you're like, oh, this looks nice and then it's gone and they just reappear and it's like closed, what happened, what happened?
Speaker 5:gone, and he doesn't reappear and it's like closed. What happened? Fucking wacky. Let me tell you um where do you?
Speaker 3:think it never says where do you think they go?
Speaker 5:whatever is between here and norfolk, virginia. Uh, the veil. The veil, yeah, I don't know, man, it's really weird, like I can't even imagine that, to be honest with you, like it seems. I mean, it's very what's the word I'm looking for? It's very sci-fi in nature, you know. So we see a lot of teleportation going correctly in most movies and like stuff. We never see it going wrong, except if you watch the fly. So I don't know.
Speaker 5:But some witnesses also said that they had injuries and like burns, like radiation burns, apparently. A few burst into flames without any reasoning and then one of the famous stories say that a group of sailors in a bar weeks later got into a fight and then, like during the chaos, to just like blinked out of existence in front of everyone. But just little stories as far as I know. But yeah, I guess the scientists were basically saying that they were really not sure how any of this worked. They essentially know that they threw the switch, they made the ship invisible and in the process they had tampered with space and time and matter itself and then, basically, fearing any more disasters like this, they just shut the project down immediately, classified all the records records and told everyone to quiet up and go do something else.
Speaker 3:So there was uh, there is another story of I forgot what it was called specifically. It's like anchoring or something where, um, some of the the sailors afterwards would need to like almost constantly have someone they like love or like care for, like touch them or like hold on to them, and that was like keeping them from phasing out, somehow like that, like they're their anchor onto this world and if they let go then they would like just phase out or back in. Very weird stuff, weird stuff. I also think the guys in the bar got very lucky, because I'm trying to imagine like they're getting in a bar fight, someone throws a stool at them and they just blink out right before the stool hits them. Yeah, probably a lot better that that happened to you.
Speaker 4:I can clarify a little more about the people that disappeared from the bar, but I figured I'd let you guys talk more about it. Does anyone else have anything to say about those two before I give it away? I?
Speaker 5:don't have anything to say about those. I have one little blurb of stuff left, but I can wait until after discussion.
Speaker 4:No, no, no, you go ahead. The only thing I would share about the guys from the bar is that later they both were talked to and found and contacted and apparently they were underage and not supposed to be there and if they found out they would get dismissed from service. So a waitress snuck them out the back.
Speaker 5:They're like we see the fight cloud happening, with all the fists and the hands and the shoes coming out of it. She's just like what are you children doing here?
Speaker 4:But yeah, with all the fists and the hands and the shoes coming out of it she's just like yoink. What are you children?
Speaker 5:doing here? Yeah, we're just roughhousing. That's what I imagine they sound like. I'm 14. I'm a man, I can fight for America, but I can't drink about it Nope. So officially the record for the ship. But I can't drink about it Nope. So officially the record for the ship is this though so it was a real US Navy destroyer. It launched in 1943. Spanned World War II escorting convoys across the Atlantic. After the war, she was transferred to the Greek Navy in 1951 and renamed HS Leon, and then it served until 1999, and then it got scrapped.
Speaker 3:Can you just do that you want this boat.
Speaker 2:The USS Eldridge was given to Greece as part of the Mutual Defense Assistance Act, which was a plan that President Truman put in place To help rebuild European countries Military stocks After World War II, because America felt that Having their European allies In Europe well stocked From a military perspective Was a good idea, considering Russia was also quickly building their military Dude. That's so wild. We're doing the same thing now. Right, military perspective was a good idea, considering Russia was also quickly building their military Dude.
Speaker 3:That's so wild. We're doing the same thing now, right? Yeah, of course, why wouldn't you?
Speaker 2:Providing aid to our European allies so that they can fight off. Yeah, we're doing that exact same thing.
Speaker 3:The UN. We're helpful in there and we always want to be yeah Anyway so Conformation. There's a couple other experiments that are taking place around. This time of the Philadelphia experiment Turns out we're very efficient at just fucking around and finding out.
Speaker 3:Not all of them took place in Philadelphia, but some did. Um, first and foremost, I'm going to be talking about a couple of things. One of these things we may have to talk about a little bit more in depth because it sounds so fucking weird, Um, but I want to talk a little bit about gauzing. Um, basically, gauzing is a unit of strength of a magnetic field in a, like deep sea mines trigger. Um. These mines would be able to read the um magnetic field of um, like boats or ships or anything that's coming by, and it would basically be able to feel that like disruption in the magnetic field and that will trigger the mind to uh float up and detonate. Um.
Speaker 3:Degaussing was an experiment that the us was doing on some of the boats in philadelphia which, uh, basically the first round of degaussing experiments was taking electromagnetic copper coils and just wrapping the ship in it and then that doing so would fuck with the electromagnetic field around the ship, thus affecting how the mines track them, basically making it so the mines wouldn't be released and explode the ships because it wouldn't track or notice these differences in the electromagnetic field. We soon discovered that just wrapping a giant fucking battleship in copper coil. A. Super time-consuming, B super expensive. Not all that worth it to do on your hundreds of.
Speaker 4:What a good way to spend your time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, especially because degaussing only worked for so long. After a while the potency basically of the effect of the electromagnetic field from the copper would disintegrate and you have to basically recharge it after a while. So it would basically be them having to go out there, wait for this thing to fail, these coils to fail, bring it back to fucking port, charge it up which takes forever send it back on its way. It had a limited range, essentially, before it had to be charged back up. It just wasn't that effective. So they discovered something else they they called whipping. Same concept, but it was just cheaper to do, because now, instead of wrapping these copper coils around the ships and bolting them on and making sure they stay, they just decided to just hook them off the side of the fucking boats and just let them drag along the ship. They just have these tentacled spools of copper wiring, just giving off an electromagnetic field. That is just throwing off these mines. And that was way less time-consuming, way less costly, because again, now you're not wrapping an entire ship in copper, you're just letting it trail behind it in the ocean. Same effect, basically.
Speaker 3:Um, another big experiment that was going on in this time frame which kind of has to do with this was from the germans surprise, surprise, it's called. It's called die glocky, die glocky um, something like that, or, as translated in german, the nazi bell. So we may have to talk about this more in depth at some point, but essentially the nazi bell is this giant bell-shaped device that the nazis discovered and started experimenting with, that emitted this super lethal radiation to anybody that came in contact with it. They had multiple scientists that were working. Is this going to the whole Nazi warlock stuff Kind?
Speaker 5:of A little bit. God, I hope so. That's something we for sure need to talk about.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just the Nazis and the occult man. If they weren't Nazis, it'd be cooler If it was the whole Nazi thing. If it was just like, yeah, we just. If it was just like a bunch of dudes in the early 1900s that were like, yeah, we love fucking experimenting with artifacts and the occult, I'd be like, fuck, yeah, but no, they had to be Nazis and ruin it all. So way to go, Hitler.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you just hadn't.
Speaker 5:I'm going to clip that out of context.
Speaker 3:If the. Nazis had the Nazis, they'd be cool.
Speaker 2:So does this end up connecting to the Nazi UFOs in Antarctica again?
Speaker 3:A little. Why is everything?
Speaker 4:connected Everything.
Speaker 3:It's not that it connects to it directly, but it's the same type of weird shit. So, essentially, this giant thing is a bell-shaped device that, again, every scientist that worked on it had lethal radiation exposure. Every test subject that they had come on it had lethal radiation exposure. Every test subject that they had come near it, lethal radiation exposure. It contained inside of it this thing they called serum 525, which is this purple, like we gooey, like liquidy substance that they had to keep inside of a lead container because it itself was radioactive as well.
Speaker 3:The Nazis discovered that if you spin this thing around and around and around and around and around, it could manipulate space and time, and they were somewhat successful with this. They were able to have certain things blink in and out of existence. We did have similar issues. Uh, happen to what happened with the philadelphia experiment, where you know things that blipped out would come back fucked up. Uh think event horizon, you know when the ship goes to. You know the hell place, everything, nothing is the same. They're all fucked up. It's basically that, it's. It's that exact same type of premise.
Speaker 3:The people that that worked on it there there's you know quote-unquote interviews of them being like yeah, we went to a place, kind of fucked up dude, um, a lot of people lost their minds. They said it was a land of torture, essentially. So it's basically event horizon, but not space. Nazi germany, um, silent hill guy, yeah, yeah, um, so they, they definitely did want to. The end game for this was for this to be used to travel dimensions. Um, that was a big thing. You know, allegedly, or whatever, with like um, nazi germany back in the day was, um, towards the end of the war, they knew they were losing, so they had the uh, the mindset. You know, it's the same reason they went to hide in Antarctica, or on the moon, if you believe in that ship. It's basically saying, yeah, we may not win this world, but we're going to retreat, we'll win another world.
Speaker 4:Or we'll come back later where you can't touch us.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, but their whole thing was okay. Maybe we lost this one. Let's travel to a different dimension where we can take over that one. Yeah, so I find that very Again, sans Nazi stuff Kind of a cool concept. A giant bell thing that tears through dimensions, that is theorized and this is how it ties to the UFO thing that Sorry, I had to pause and take a drink of water for a dramatic effect. So it is theorized that this bell was actually a piece of alien technology that was found from a crashed UFO site and when we found it, that's when we started doing our experiments on it, and that serum 525 may have been some sort of fuel or energy supply for this UFO. And this is how we also they kind of theorized how UFOs travel through or travel around. It's not necessarily that a UFO came from a far distant planet. This made them theorize that UFOs came from far distant dimensions and this is how they got here is with this bell.
Speaker 4:With a bell, a Nazi bell a.
Speaker 3:Nazi bell, the fucking greys you know, in dimension. Dimension five, eight to nine was like. Well, if we had a Nazi weapon and we traveled to Earth in 1942 or whatever. Like what Great idea. Great idea, what's a Nazi? I don't know. We'll figure out when we get there. Klee whore, so that's kind of that I couldn't think of an alien name. So Klee whore is the name.
Speaker 4:That's a great one. I think you should keep it.
Speaker 2:That's from Smegmar 9, episode 3.
Speaker 4:Klee, whore's bell's Bell, very soon, I think, kleehor's Bell.
Speaker 3:Oh my god let's see what Art Bell has to say about this. Yeah, right.
Speaker 4:I'll get Delutybot to start working on that there we go.
Speaker 5:I tap Kleehor's Bell and I scry.
Speaker 3:So that's really about it when it comes to, like, other big experiments that are happening at that time. Uh, now I know what you're probably wondering, though, like why is it that we can't find any records on this thing and I think you guys said it best yourselves earlier it's that government that g dang government cover-up dude. Well, that.
Speaker 4:G-Dang government cover-up. They had that totally real news coverage from that totally real newspaper article that was in a totally real newspaper.
Speaker 3:You're right, the government doesn't. They were too late, they couldn't cover it up. The cat was out there, it was already out.
Speaker 4:You can't put the cat back in the bag unless you have food.
Speaker 3:Government's covering everything up by a couple of different means.
Speaker 3:I'm glad you brought it up first and foremost, like you brought up before, jessup dead asphyxiated in his car a year after everything coincidence? I fucking think not, dude. Was he having financial hard times? Probably, I don't know. Is that a big, big factor in people dying? Yeah, but did he do it? Nah, government cover-up. They killed him for publishing all this stuff even though it already came out. So like, why would they have to kill him?
Speaker 3:Also, many believe that the government altered the ship's logs and crew to show that nothing suspicious occurred. Like Doug said before, they would take some crew off of the ships and they would put them onto other jobs or other boats, other ships, so it would be like no one was ever there on the Eldridge to begin with. Many of the crew also, or many believe that the crew who died afterwards with the you know where they were, like blooping in and out of existence or the one that just spontaneously set on fire. People believe that they actually did not die but in fact were kidnapped by the government for testing purposes so they could be experimented on to see if they could give any more information or insight into how to harness this Philadelphia experiment technology. Also, in 1984, there is a movie that came out about the Philadelphia experiment technology, also in 1984, there is a movie that came out about the Philadelphia experiment. This movie is rumored to be funded by the government to make the experiment seem more like a sci-fi, a sci-fi story, rather than something that's real. This obviously would help keep people off the trail. Oh, it's just a dumb movie. The the movie itself apparently is not that good and allegedly the government did that on purpose to further discredit the experiment, make a bad movie, make people talk about how shitty the movie is.
Speaker 3:All of a sudden, the Philadelphia experience is more of a joke than anything. They even changed sole events of the experiment in the movie just to further cause chaos and confusion with what actually happened in. The movie talks about two guys who during the uh, when the uh eldridge was going green and blue and all that haze was going on, they fell overboard and they were time traveled into the year 1984 where they had to figure out what the hell was going on in the future and figure out how to get back to the past. Samurai Jack and they yeah, that never happened In the Philadelphia experience. That's just part of the movie.
Speaker 3:I'm pretty sure the names of the people that fell off the ship are supposed to be names of people that were on the crew of the Eldritch, but I don't fully remember. But yeah, that seems to be many of the takes, another being this one I only saw like one or two people talking about. But another one is that they got to Carl Allen and that's one of the reasons why Carl Allen was, throughout the later years of his life, like, yeah, I made that shit up. No, I didn't. Yeah, did no, I didn't. Because the government basically kept coming to him like hey, shut the fuck up. And he's like, okay, yep, I made it all up, it's not real. And then after a while he thought he was safe and he was like, totally, saw that shit. And the government come knocking on his door again. He's like, uh, sorry guys, totally made it up, not real.
Speaker 4:No, it definitely would give him multiple chances, definitely would absolutely be like all right, I'm gonna take your word for it.
Speaker 3:This, yeah, they wouldn't just they wouldn't just have him shoot himself or anything hamburger time him hamburger time him. Um, but that, that's this. That's the philadelphia experiment, like the all in all pretty fun concept of uh I I do hope, and I do feel like it was on purpose, that they called it the Eldritch and just kind of changed the spelling of it so it did have that Julian Lovecraftian feel to it.
Speaker 4:I really hope that was on purpose if I ever see anything that is like a little like tip of the hat to like a fucking pop culture icon or something like that, that's my first key clue that this either probably isn't real or like it's like. Uh, like, if there was a vampire and I, what was that rick and morty thing? The coach ferratu like yeah, you, if you were trying to hide this shit, you wouldn't tip your hat to. Like cthulhu and the eldritch.
Speaker 3:I'm doctor, my name is dr acula.
Speaker 2:That's the thing that always gets me yeah, with these sort of conspiracy theories, things is they're always like oh, they left clues hidden in plain sight. Really, this and this and this and this, it all adds up. It's like why would they do that? Why? Why would they do? That If you're so convinced that the military has somehow been able to keep so many people silent on this for so long, for decades and they would put hidden references in the names of things. What is this? This National Treasure? Yeah.
Speaker 3:The Da Vinci Code.
Speaker 2:Make it make sense.
Speaker 4:You don't leave a trail. That's the whole thing.
Speaker 3:What do we think, boys? Real or fake? Absolutely real, alright, we'll just say it now that works. Huh, yeah, I. Absolutely real. Oh, alright, we'll just say it now that works. Huh, I'm going fake. You had to.
Speaker 4:I'm going fake. Yeah, I'm going fake too.
Speaker 5:I'll say fake.
Speaker 3:My biggest argument for why I think it's fake is not all that I can let all that dumb shit slide and still think it might be half true. The biggest thing that makes me think it's fake is the fact that if you look at it from a purely military, experimental mindset, this was a success. If the whole point was to have your, your, your ship go invisible and instead you just invented teleportation, they wouldn't just scrap this idea.
Speaker 3:oh yeah, this would be something yeah, they don't care how bad it it was on a person. I mean, if people, the government runs mk, ultra, you know Orange, all that shit they don't care if it fucks up and kills people. They're going to run tests on it and see what was successful and what's not and try it again and again and again.
Speaker 2:The fact that this is the only yeah, they're going to do it again, but like, put monkeys on the ship instead.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the fact that this is the only example of this type of like teleportation thing happening that kind of tells me it's not real. If there's multiple examples of it, I might be like, okay, sure, you might have a little something here. But yeah, the government would see this teleportation thing and be like bet, we're gonna use this and look more into it. I will kill a thousand men a million men for this. We don't care it's fucking water noose from Monsters Inc.
Speaker 3:I'll kill a thousand children if it care. It's fucking water noose from Monsters Inc. I'll kill a thousand children if I be it's that.
Speaker 2:I guess the minor concern that you do have with this is that if the ship is just randomly teleporting, when you do this, how are you going to be 100% sure that you're not just going to teleport it into the middle of the, like Empire State Building or something?
Speaker 5:that's true, but that's too spot on for it to be like, because if they're just testing something out, there's no like little panel box like in fucking Doc Brown's car. Like here's the coordinates.
Speaker 2:That's why they would keep experimenting, in my opinion, yeah but that's the reason why they shouldn't, because they don't know where it's going to go. You're not going to take an aircraft carrier and accidentally 9-11 yourself.
Speaker 3:I mean, we created the nuke with the small chance that it would literally explode the atmosphere and kill everybody.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but nobody's going to get upset about that. Because there's going to get upset about that, because everybody's going to be, there's going to be nobody to complain also.
Speaker 5:I feel like if they were testing a giant ship teleporting, there would be so much news coverage on this, because it's not just like, they're not just hiding it like you know what I'm saying, like well, think about the.
Speaker 4:My biggest question is everybody likes to think that every reference point you know what I'm saying. Well, think about the. My biggest question is everybody likes to think that every reference point that exists exists on Earth.
Speaker 2:If you're looking at, teleporting something that's not true.
Speaker 4:Make sure you're not going to just slam it into the moon. We're moving at like 22,000 miles an hour on average in a direction somewhere. How are you accounting for that z value of like where you are statically in space? That's fair, yeah yeah, you're.
Speaker 2:You're making two assumptions you're making. The first assumption is that you're assuming that it's going to maintain its momentum as it's teleporting, and two, the other assumption that you're making is that there's no friction or anything that's going to slow it down where it's not going to end up, at like, in the center of the planet Right.
Speaker 5:I feel like the like, the gate idea of like a portal or something where there's an entrance and an exit makes more sense than just like blasting a beam at a ship and being like oh there go, there is Stargate technology.
Speaker 3:We talked about it with that one wacky guy I forgot his name when they were like oh, they teleported us as kids and I was Obama or whatever. I forgot that guy.
Speaker 5:I guess maybe they were some shit.
Speaker 3:Maybe this was the.
Speaker 2:That was the fucking, that website. Goddamn, what was that called?
Speaker 1:yeah, that thing we did like four parts of yeah, maybe the ascension glossary or whatever.
Speaker 5:No, no no, no, no, no, no. No different thing.
Speaker 4:There's always the bad shit the same conspiracy theory?
Speaker 2:no no, this is like the field studies institute. Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4:No, that wasn't about the field studies. No, no, this is like an ARG.
Speaker 2:The Field Studies Institute.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, that's right no that wasn't about the Field Studies.
Speaker 2:Field Studies Institute was where the guy claims to go back in time, right?
Speaker 3:No Field.
Speaker 2:Studies Institute was just it's just an ARG. I thought that was involved in that, though.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, no, field Studies is just a fun little ARG thing about it.
Speaker 3:All this dumb shit is like it's stacking up yeah, this is gonna bother me, doug, look it up, I'm doing it, I'm doing it already no, but I guess, maybe, maybe the Philadelphia experiment it was like the rough draft of what became like that thing, like the Stargate experiments and shit like that. That's entirely possible as well. I guess could be. Yeah, I don't Doug, are you looking up like past episodes? Or that's entirely possible as well? I guess Could be, doug, are you looking up past episodes? Yeah, I'll know when I see it. I know that much.
Speaker 3:I just have to see it Project Pegasus. No, yeah, it was Project Pegasus, that was the one.
Speaker 5:I knew it was something. I said paperclip, but whatever. Something with a P that's all I got.
Speaker 3:I enjoyed it, though. Fun story.
Speaker 4:I will say fun story it was the fucking, the melding with the ship parts, like the crew, like that great writing great writing.
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Speaker 2:And then you get your government issued black den. Yeah, I saw that YouTube have been Norfolk and then you gave your government a shoot blacked in. Yeah, I saw that. Youtube story again the other day and. I forgot about that, jesus.
Speaker 4:Holy Lord.
Speaker 2:Well, matt what do you have to say to the people?
Speaker 3:I already said what I got to say what do you have to say for yourself? Perfect. What do you have to say to yourself people? I already said what.
Speaker 5:I got to say what do? You have to say for yourself Doug, what do you got? I don't know. I guess slappier peen against the USS Eldridge and I guess now named the HR Leon in Greece. Go to Greece everyone.
Speaker 4:Jason, what do you got? As always, stay paranoid, but I'm going to bandwagon on Doug. Yeah, go have sex with an old US boat that lives in Greece now Broad daylight, just no shame. Just fuck it Just as much as you want.
Speaker 5:Here's my strange addiction I fuck old boats. I fuck old boats.
Speaker 3:It's the pica of sexual problems. Oh, one more thing If you ever want to hear like more like deep dives into topics and hear like the really cool and like in-depth side of things, don't listen to us, I guess, because that will just edit me going hard on a topic right out of there.
Speaker 4:Salty.
Speaker 2:You're going to be disappointed if you go to Greece, because the D-54 Leon was sold for scrap on 11th of November 1999.
Speaker 5:Boo, Actually, I think I said that during my part, so I respect you on that part apparently.
Speaker 3:Leon, no, no, that think I said that during my part, so I respect you, we all know. No, that edit was funny, though. Thank you, matt.
Speaker 4:Well, now you just have a sexy mystery on your hands. You'll find out where the parts went.
Speaker 3:And then fuck them in the junkyard with no shame. Everybody, have a blessed day don't look under the internet.
Speaker 2:Outro Music.
