Don't Look Under the Internet
Don't Look Under the Internet
DLUTI 205 - The Tunguska Event
Boom. Here comes the boom, ready or not.
Starting your own podcast? Use this link to receive a $20 Amazon gift card when you sign up for a paid account with Buzzsprout!
https://www.buzzsprout.com/?referrer_id=1671664
Linktree
Buy us a beer!
Join us in Discord!
DLUTI.com
Unplanned Podnancy
Undefined Graphics (Photography & Graphic Design)
Ghoulish Mortals
Inquiries: dlutipod@gmail.com
Don't Look Under The Internet
PO BOX 6437
Aurora IL 60598
don't look under the internet really fluffing those numbers.
Speaker 4:Good job guys, welcome to touch grass, the podcast everybody we're gonna touch some grass and podcast about suck your ass.
Speaker 3:Shout out to ghost, our patron ghost episode is that?
Speaker 5:is this how we're starting this? Are we just, like I've said already?
Speaker 2:I have already in this episode. I have already stopped recording and started recording once, because we talked about other shit for so long, and now we're already three minutes into this recording let's just, let's roll with it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's the beginning I forgot. Oh yeah, cold open I forgot what I was supposed to do for ghosts, so shout out to Ghosts for Patreon, you rock.
Speaker 5:It would have been a cold open had Mike not said we're starting now. We are starting the podcast.
Speaker 3:Yeah, speaking of starting the podcast, I'm Mike, that's Matt. Hello Mike, that's Matt.
Speaker 5:No, it isn't you ass starting the podcast that's Doug
Speaker 4:welcome. To don't look under the internet.
Speaker 5:That's Mike that's Jason no, it isn't there he is.
Speaker 3:Wow, that was hard.
Speaker 2:Jason, can you dial back the game? The game, yeah.
Speaker 3:We have no housekeeping today. This is second episode. So neener, neener, boo, boo Um Boys. We talked A lot before this and I gotta say it was a bit of a. Some of the things I said was a bit of a tongue twister. It to say it was a bit of a, it was a bit. Some of the things I said was a bit of a tongue twister. It felt like it was all over the place a bit of a tongue twister.
Speaker 4:I hate where this is going already. Yeah, this is not great.
Speaker 3:It was almost. It was almost like my tongue was super malleable like a certain type of metal called tungsten.
Speaker 5:It was like uska. It's like it was uskud.
Speaker 3:Like tungsten metal.
Speaker 5:These are words with tongue in them. You're going the wrong direction.
Speaker 3:We're talking today about the tunguska event and why it might not be as cut and dry as one might think. How's that? Was that good, wow, that built some mystique.
Speaker 5:It shrouded what we were talking about in mystery a bit. Mike, I think you did a great job.
Speaker 2:Thank you Like a Philadelphia eagle.
Speaker 3:How else do we ever start these episodes than at the beginning, when most stories start.
Speaker 5:We should start at the end, I think actually, I prefer honestly if we could tell a story from end to beginning in a coherent way, I think that's an actual achievement.
Speaker 3:Well, this took place in like 1910, so it ends with everyone dead.
Speaker 2:For us, I think, if we could tell a story from beginning to end in a coherent way, that would be an actual achievement.
Speaker 5:I think we would be worthy of the Nobel Peace Prize, which we should call the Norwegian Prime Minister about that.
Speaker 3:Do you think if that ever happened, like if we got through a topic With like no interruptions, very cohesive we would all at the same time get like the little Xbox notification underneath our screen? That was just like you did it.
Speaker 4:It would just be a horror podcast at that juncture.
Speaker 3:That's fair what is the Tunguska event?
Speaker 5:I guess the Tunguska event is a very old event. This one actually is dated. Most collaborative sources have dated this in 1908, right around June 30th, and honestly, apparently science is able to nail down an exact time local time in 1908, around 7.17 am. And so this event, the Tunguska event, when we refer to this, what we talk about is man. I don't know how to describe this without just getting all scientific pretty much immediately on it.
Speaker 3:Get all scientific almost immediately on it. Man, Do your thing.
Speaker 5:No, I want to build a little mystery around it. I don't want to just explain everything immediately and then you guys are just going well, I have nothing to talk about. We have to go explain everything immediately. And then you guys are just going well, I have nothing to talk about.
Speaker 2:We have to go Um two first.
Speaker 5:Well, okay, Go do that and then come back to this exact moment in this podcast and then we'll we'll be good, Um, so there's. The best way to sum this up is um, Russians, Russian settlers in the hills northwest of Lake Baikal, which is Baikal B-A-I I knew I couldn't get through this without some kind of that's my favorite nickname for Michael this is the B meme.
Speaker 2:This is the B meme.
Speaker 1:No, that's a meme we should absolutely bring back one second what's up?
Speaker 5:uh, yeah, can you do, uh, whatever you get times two. Thank you, are you? Talking to bike, sorry yeah, right now, bicle is actually on their way to go get culvers, and I could use a fucking burger what's the?
Speaker 2:B meme. Bikel, you don't know like where. You just replace the first letter of any word with the B emoji no, I've never seen that no yeah, my age is showing here.
Speaker 5:Am I the only one who knows what?
Speaker 4:I don't know. We have a podcast called don't look under the internet.
Speaker 3:I, I the only one who knows what I don't know. We have a podcast called Don't Look Under the Internet.
Speaker 2:I'm the only person on this that knows the bee emoji meme.
Speaker 3:Apparently yeah, I'm at a lot of.
Speaker 4:I'm familiar with the bee meme Scrapping one of the boobs we talked about earlier.
Speaker 5:So Lake Bicle. The only reason this is relevant is that this is the, the world's deepest uh lake. It's in siberia, um, and so the russian settlers as well as the uh. It was a tribe of people called the uh, even even event key, I think, is how it's pronounced event king uh natives, which is a tribe tribe in Siberia.
Speaker 5:At the time, they observed a bluish light, nearly as bright as the sun, moving across the sky and leaving a very thin trail. Closer to the horizon, there was a this big flash producing a giant billowing cloud, which was followed by a pillar of fire that cast a red light on the landscape. The pillar then split in two and then faded, turning to black. About 10 minutes later there was a sound similar to our like artillery fire, so like just this giant boom echoed throughout this entire region. Eyewitnesses closer to the explosion reported uh. The source of the sound moved from the east to the north of them and the sounds were accompanied by a shockwave that knocked people off their feet and broke windows hundreds of kilometers away Sounds like a pretty wild event, and that's just kind of an overview of what it is.
Speaker 5:I actually, if you guys wouldn't mind, I have an eyewitness accord of the entire thing and it's testimony of somebody named Chu Chan of the Shania Gear tribe and it's, as recorded by somebody named IM Suslov in 1926 is when this was taken oh, so the meme is making fun of Bloods, like the gang god damn it oh, I get it now.
Speaker 3:okay, I get it now. Okay, I get it now, because that's what they do. They don't say C's because it's for Crips. They replace every C's with B's. Very good, mike.
Speaker 5:Thank you. So this is the testimony, first eyewitness account of this event, this, this very strange, possibly celestial, possibly paranormal, otherworldly event that happened, uh, in the siberian region of russia. And, again, this is one of the nomadic tribes of the region in 1926 this is translation, so I don't know how accurate it is, but this is according. According to the translation, this is what they said. We had a hut by the river with my brother Chekharan. We were sleeping. Suddenly, we both woke up at the same time. Somebody shoved us.
Speaker 3:Was it Mudbutt Hut? Mudbutt Hut.
Speaker 5:Was it Mudbutt Hut? We heard whistling and felt the wrong wind. Chekharan, but we heard whistling and felt the wrong wind. Check, check her in, check her own, shock her own. Uh, check her and said can you hear all those birds flying overhead? We were both in the hut, couldn't see what was going on outside. Suddenly I got shoved again, this time so hard I fell into the fire. I got scared, check her and got scared too. We started crying out for father, mother, brother, but nobody answered. There was a noise beyond the hut. We could hear trees falling down. Checker and I got out of our sleeping bags and wanted to run out, but then the thunder struck. This was the first thunder. The earth began to move and rock. The wind hit her hut and knocked it over. My body was pushed down by sticks, but my head was in the clear. Then I I saw a wonder. The trees were falling.
Speaker 4:This sounds like a post from fucking the caveman support subreddit.
Speaker 5:Oh my God, it totally does. Where do you think the mudbutt hut reference came?
Speaker 2:from, I got you.
Speaker 5:Michael.
Speaker 4:Thank you, I'm slow apparently.
Speaker 3:Big B's for Matt everybody.
Speaker 5:Then I saw a wonder. Trees were falling, the branches were on fire, it became mighty bright how can I say this? As if there was a second sun. My eyes were hurting, I even closed them. It was like what the Russians call lightning and immediately there was a loud thunderclap. This was the second thunder.
Speaker 5:The morning was sunny, there were no clouds, our sun was shining brightly, as usual, and suddenly there came a second one. Checker and I had some difficulty getting out from under the remains of our hut. Then we saw that above, but in a different place, there was another flash and loud thunder came. This was the third thunder strike. Wind came again, knocked us off our feet, struck the fallen trees. We looked at the fallen trees, watched the treetops get snapped off, watched the fires. Suddenly, checkerun yelled look up. And pointed with his hand. I looked. I looked there and saw another flash and it made another thunder, but the noise was less than before. But the noise was less than before. This was the fourth string, like pointed with its feet. Um, and he goes off. Uh, he goes in and he says that there was a fifth one, eventually, but it was small and somewhere very far away where the sun goes to sleep, um, and so that should kind of give you an insight into the. It's a little.
Speaker 5:The mindset of the people that saw this might have been a little bit different than people who were a part of, like, the modernized world. I think that this, this group of people, were still very much like, beholden to the land that they were on and their ancestors had been on, and their relatives just far away from society. I mean, it's Siberia, for Christ's sake, like it's, that's, that's the middle of fucking nowhere. There is nothing in Siberia, I will say. The explosion that they were talking about and that this person saw and witnessed firsthand also registered at seismic stations across Eurasia. An airwave blast were detected in Germany, denmark, croatia, the United Kingdom and, as honestly, as far as far away as, uh, the dutch east indies and washington dc. Um, it's estimated in some other places the shockwave was equivalent to an earthquake measuring about 5.0 on the richter scale. That is a detailed account of what this, what this is, and what the people who might have witnessed this very mysterious, strange event might have gone through as they saw it.
Speaker 3:I also read it was as powerful as 185 atomic bombs going off.
Speaker 5:Jesus shit explosion huge explosion, yeah, something like 50 megatons or some shit like that way more than that, but oh damn okay yeah, but yeah, that's uh, that is the uh an eyewitness account, as well as just a general overview of what this actually is when it happened, where it happens and who was affected by it. So anyone have any info on like? If anything happened to like the, was it just a loud noise or did like? Was there destruction in any capacity?
Speaker 2:Honestly, jason, not really, not a whole lot, because you got to understand that this thing blew up above like one of the most sparsely populated areas on the entire planet, so Siberia and Russia is like the, the middle bit, and like almost nobody lives there there's, so there's a few people there that saw it, like jason said, but like the number of people who would have been in this vicinity would have probably been in the dozens to low hundreds. So uh, but it did destroy 830 square miles of forest, so there's like a bunch of fucking trees fell over jesus christ yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 2:So for for reference, that would have been capable of destroying four chicagos that's insane to chicago is 234 square miles, so 830 that's a lot of fucking area.
Speaker 2:Um, it would have, basically it have basically leveled any major metropolitan area in the world. It apparently knocked people off their feet. The shockwave broke windows in buildings like towns, way, way, way far away. Airways from the blast were actually detected in Germany, denmark, croatia and the United Kingdom, and as far away as Washingtonways from the blast were actually detected in Germany, denmark, croatia and the United Kingdom, and as far away as Washington DC.
Speaker 2:Like Jason mentioned, it would have been a 5.0 on the Richter scale earthquake, and the explosion itself was actually visible up to 500 miles away, and it blasted so much sediment into the air that it hung around for weeks afterward, which actually resulted in abnormally bright nighttime skies all the way across europe, and um observatories in california were actually able to observe that there was a significant reduction in the transparent transparency of the atmosphere for literally months after this happened. Yeah, um, so there's no like, but aside from the trees being leveled and all the sediment being pushed up into the air, there was really no like crater or any evidence that anything actually impacted the ground, but in 2007, some russian researchers claimed that a really large lake was actually created by the, create the by the crater and filled in later. Um, but so, like scientists, other scientists have disputed this and claimed that that's not possible. Who's to say, uh and?
Speaker 2:no one no people than we. Yeah, and then there was some other eyewitness accounts of the air getting super duper hot and basically just like whipping around in between buildings and reports of artillery like explosions, like jason mentioned, real loud, real loud bang. But for the most part it just kind of fucked up some trees, a lot of trees there.
Speaker 3:It was like square miles of trees it was like 8 million trees or something like that. It was a lot of a lot of fucking trees.
Speaker 2:The wikipedia article does also claim that three people died, but I checked the sources for that and I honestly couldn't verify that or figure out where it came from.
Speaker 5:So I mean it's possible just because of how desolate and remote that area is, like how?
Speaker 2:accurate is the census there really? This also happened 120 years ago. I'm sure the record keeping is not in Russia sure it's on point.
Speaker 3:I'm sure it's an estimate from like the fact that it's such a big area there, like odds are, there were a handful of hunters or hikers or something people just wandering around.
Speaker 2:They got absolutely decimated. And eventually somebody was like what happened to Vladimir.
Speaker 3:That asteroid or whatever got him.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 4:Fucking Ugg disappeared. What the hell?
Speaker 5:Ugg Traditional Russian name that was flat, I don't know.
Speaker 2:That's what I think it was but yeah that's all I got, mostly it's just, there's nobody there and there really wasn't anybody there after this happened there were three people, now none where once was three now
Speaker 4:are none now. There were none where once was three, now are none alright. So I got some of the expedition that happened in 1921 and kind of like what they found from that. So a group of scientists led by Leonid A Kulik, a Russian mineralogist and meteoritist which sounds like a fake word, you made that up. They were working at a museum in Terograd or St Petersburg, but basically after the Russian Revolution and Civil War the government was really short on resources.
Speaker 4:So Kulik was really interested in this and he said basically, hey, this might yield valuable iron and our meteorite fragments, and kind of convinced the government and like ruling authorities that this was a good idea. So they were like all right, sure, like ruling authorities that this was a good idea. So they were like all right, sure. So Siberia in 1921 was very unstable due to its civil war, so there's really limited funding supplies and like transports for his team. Um, and the Tunguska site was like incredibly remote, swampy wilderness, no roads, villages or reliable maps, and because of these obstacles, uh, the 1921 expedition never actually reached like the epicenter of the blast. Um, they only made it as far out as the lower tunguska and I'm gonna butcher this, but podkaminya, tunguska rivers.
Speaker 4:So that's right yeah yeah, sure, yeah, uh, I don't know exactly where those fall on a map to be very accurate, but basically it seems like they only made it like maybe a couple, like maybe a mile and or so essentially to where this blast happened.
Speaker 2:I did look it up on a map to try to figure out and like get some reference. And now there is like a little town called Tunguska that is like in on that river.
Speaker 3:Oh, that gives you absolutely no context. They're like well, the land's already flat. We might as well build like like it's a perfect spot.
Speaker 4:Yeah, um, basically, uh, kulik and his team uh interviewed local Evinki, uh, people who were described, uh, who basically described exactly what Jason was talking about earlier the fireball, the deafening explosion, how the forest was flattened, and basically they were kind of terrified to talk about it and the blast, they viewed it as a curse or like a punishment from the gods, you know. So Kulik noted that he, like really strange tree fall patterns and scorched areas that, like they just couldn't get any good detailed surveys of when they were there. Um, it was like a very strange, like just how everything had happened was very strange and not, like, I guess, natural as they described it. Um, and there was no meteorite evidence.
Speaker 4:So the 21 trip, like the 1921 trip, failed to locate any meteorite fragments or a crater or really any scientific proof of what had happened, despite him, you know, kind of being like, hey, we could do this, we could find these things if we go, but they didn't. So, while this matters, um, this, the 1921 expedition was important because basically, they, they, they at least centered on something that had happened, was not just a local myth. They, they were like something happened here, we're not sure what, but it's important and we need to know what happened right, and it allowed him to gather a bunch of witness accounts and some geographic data to basically persuade the Soviet Academy of Sciences to fund a proper scientific mission in 1927. So it took a whole six fucking years for them to get another expedition up and going.
Speaker 3:This asteroid fell in like and then go back. Yeah, this asteroid fell in like 1910 and it took them like 17 years almost 20 years yeah, to get a proper expedition.
Speaker 4:So when they returned in 1927, um, they came with better backing and their team was like uh, they were able to reach the blast zone, or like the epicenter, and this is when they noticed that the shape of the flattened forest was like a butterfly shape. So it kind of came out in like these big ovals, into like a, like a longer center, if that makes sense. Um, so basically, uh, flattened forest trees pointing radially outward from ground zero. Um, at the center they found scorched and upright trees, so like stripped of branches, like telephone poles, essentially just like bare-ass trees which support the airburst theory, which I'm sure one of us will go over in a minute. But there's no crater, there were no meteorite pieces, just microscopic particles in the soil and tree resin which still didn't lead to any kind of like rough theory of what happened.
Speaker 3:How high can you get on tree resin?
Speaker 4:Oh, not the same kind of resin.
Speaker 5:I'm sure I have a guy I can email if you want to know the answer to that question.
Speaker 3:Is tree resin just your plug.
Speaker 5:You're emailing your plug.
Speaker 3:It's the guy that used to dig up graveyard trees and boil them into tea in college and he got high by witnessing the memories of the dead. I like to think Jason's just like dear plug. I require another XX amount.
Speaker 4:And he sends it and his plugs got like a fucking hotmail. It's like an automated email Like I'll get back to AFL. Just an automated response, like I'll be back with you in 24 to 48 hours.
Speaker 3:I have a lot of cases right now.
Speaker 4:World's worst.
Speaker 5:I'm not doing work.
Speaker 4:Um, I don't know. Yeah, so world's worst, I'm not doing work um, I'm not an office until blame.
Speaker 3:If you need drugs, hit up.
Speaker 4:Hit up my guy that's taking over for me a picture of the money you want to spend and then fax me a picture of your balls, alright? So in 1921, um, the expedition was kind of like a reconnaissance that they ended up doing and it was a really near mishit. It could have been like, if they didn't find any evidence, more than likely they wouldn't have sent him in in 1927. And I still don't really know what all. There's not a whole lot more they uncovered in the 1927 other than the fact that they were more in the blast zone, um, because it still didn't really tell us much, but it did spark, uh, like some pretty serious investigations. So, like in 19 or the 1921, did I should say so? Um, yeah, that's that's kind of where we were at with the scientific backing of this, which is really funny, because I assumed that the 1927 expedition would have been like here's what happened, right, here's the thing that caused the thing. But that's not the case at all. So we're still left with a bunch of question marks and what ifs?
Speaker 3:yeah, there are some theories. Yeah, there are some theories as to what may or may not have had happened here. First and foremost, the most common theory is an asteroid, kind of like what we've been talking about before and that the big old rock and how it blew up in the atmosphere. So this is the most agreed upon theory so far. Is this the airburst theory? Yeah, it's the airburst theory. So one of the major combatants to why this wasn't an asteroid was the fact that there was no crater. It was just everything flattened, except the odd like trees In the center that weren't flattened. Everyone Thought that was kind of odd, but apparently this is very common with airbursts. I guess Japan I think it was Japan anyway they had an airburst Asteroid At one point in Japan's history where they had a Similar issue, where they had trees sitting up, standing up in the epicenter of everything. All the others were blasted down.
Speaker 2:When they dropped the bomb on Hiroshima. The building that was directly underneath the bomb and it exploded is still there.
Speaker 3:It's mostly because all that force isn't going out. It's hitting that guy directly on and all the others around are going out. It's a bubble. You know that would be what it'd do, but that holds up. It's a bubble, you know so it'd be what it'd do, but that holds up, that's the business say yeah. Yeah, like Doug said, they did find fragments of an asteroid. They're very minute and they were scattered all over, but they did find fragments of like you know, like iron and like lead-based.
Speaker 4:Very, very minuscule amounts in the soil.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm, the tree thing even, like I mentioned before, has been witnessed to happen already. They call it debranching. Basically, why this happens is if we're going to get scientific with it fast-moving shock waves that break off a tree's branches before the branches can transfer the impact momentum to the tree's stem. This is confirmed to be proof of some form of atmospheric impact from the blast. Another reason why this holds up is because witnesses saw the fucking asteroid. There's many who claim to have seen a giant fireball in the sky. They described it as being blue, uh bluish, with uh light nearly as bright as the sun uh, just like sky.
Speaker 3:I can burn twice, says hi take a look I'm in tongues, um, but that. That's like what jason said he he had. There's multiple eyewitnesses of them being like I saw that fucking thing. There goes, I saw it.
Speaker 5:That was one of the Siberian, like the nomadic tribes that lived there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the Davinki.
Speaker 5:I didn't think we would get Like an eyewitness account of one of the Tribes that is literally Known for being nomadic around the area of Siberia. Which is a wild description.
Speaker 3:Sometimes if you see some really fucked up shit, you kind of are a little loose around the whole nomad thing. If I saw a giant fireball in the sky, some guy was like, did you see that?
Speaker 5:I'd be like yeah, I'm opening it up. Shut up, we're walking.
Speaker 3:We're going to the city. We're going to the city, whatever city's in Russia, Well no.
Speaker 5:Nomads would probably, by definition, stay away from cities.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So you're probably asking yourselves why the hell is Deluty talking about this thing.
Speaker 5:It seems pretty cut and dry Russia again.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it seems pretty cut and dry. A big old asteroid came down. We're going back to our roots of Russia, what with the sleep experiment and whatnot. That's where we got our funding and shit. Yeah, just like every other right-wing podcast we're doing a really bad job.
Speaker 2:I know I don't think they're getting their money's worth.
Speaker 3:So you're like like why are we talking about this?
Speaker 3:because there's some other fucking theories out there and one of them is super fucking cool and fun and juicy and we're going to save that one for last. But I'm going to talk about some of the smaller ones out there. First and foremost, a lot of people think that the Tunguska event was an experiment from the Russian government themselves. This was them basically testing out weapons and potentially some of the first tests of an atomic bomb. Obviously, there's no references or documents to this, as the Russian government at the time was going through ass loads of like civil war and government changes. Rasputin you know there's one but but that guy should not have gotten to where he was. I don't know if you guys know a history of Rasputin should not have gotten to where he was. I don't know if you guys know a history of Rasputin.
Speaker 5:I would love to do a one-off episode just about the history, life and times of Rasputin, because you have to remember he died in the 60s.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but TLDR with Rasputin just a fucking snake oil salesman that somehow got to have become like the right hand of the fucking, like czar of the Russian oligarchs yeah, somehow he never showered.
Speaker 3:That's a whole thing, yeah, but anyway. So everyone thinks that this was like some very early development technology of like the first atomic bomb drops again, no, some very early development technology of like the first atomic bomb drops Again no real evidence on that. And the fact that there wasn't much like radiation or anything that is kind of, and no crater. So that was kind of out. The second aliens, our favorite, this. I love the concept of it, but there's literally nothing here for it. But a lot of people think that this was either a UFO that crashed, landed here or some sort of alien weapon was discharged in this area there is. I like the idea of aliens, I always liked the idea of aliens, but this I do not think holds up because there are literally no sightings, no evidence, there's no witnesses, there's no nothing of a UFO. There's no one even saying that there's a UFO. They talk about a giant fireball in the sky. They're like, oh, that was probably the asteroid. They're like, yeah, that makes sense. Asteroids look like that. So I like the idea of aliens, but the fact that people are just like, oh, it's aliens, I think they're just looking for dumb shit. Aliens yeah, there's something called the Vern shot, which is basically magma from the Earth's core, was basically leaked into this giant pocket of natural gas, caused a big explosion to erupt and that is what caused this just a giant pocket of gas and magma. Apparently, siberia does sit on a pretty big like what's it called? I guess like magma pocket or something Like. They got some like underground volcanic activity that's going on over there, but again, hot magma, liquid hot magma, magma, but once again there's no crater. So how could this be? Doesn't make any sense. You know, you would expect to see some form of a crater or something. But others and this is relatively recently, this was brought up in the 70s and this is from actual scientists brought this one up. I want to say NASA scientists brought this theory to attention.
Speaker 3:Black holes is apparently an option as well. Some theorize that a black hole collided with Earth. A very small, a minuscule black hole collided with Earth and caused a matter slash antimatter explosion in the atmosphere. This theory in theory holds up stronger theory in theory holds up stronger than the other ones, but it leaves out one detail and that is A. We found fragments of the asteroid, again very small, but we found them.
Speaker 3:We also found something that is called nanodiamonds, which are diamonds that are literally micrometers. Yeah, they're nano. They're nanometers in size. They're very tiny, but apparently nanodiamonds are very, very common in commonly found in sites where asteroids and meteors have exploded, either impact or atmospheric impact. Apparently, that's just a thing that happens, which does make a little bit of sense. I mean an asteroid, I mean a diamond is just made from pressure. All that pressure from 185 atomic bombs going off at once is probably going to make some diamonds, no matter how small, but I think that idea would have held up a bit better if not for the black hole idea would have held up better if not for the nanodiamonds that were found. All that being said, there is one theory that I think holds up the best out of all of them, and I choose. I choose to believe this one is real. Doug, do you want to, do you want to reveal upon us the truth of what is the Tunguska event? Give us the truth, dougles.
Speaker 4:The best theory, theory numero uno, as one might call it the best theory. It's the only theory that matters. Tiny hand, it's got tiny hands, so the best theory is the Tesla death ray theory. So if you're unfamiliar with the Tesla debt. Right In the early 1900s, nikola Tesla often spoke about a wireless transmission system using the Wardenclyffe Tower on Long Island Now. Officially, it was meant to transmit wireless electricity and communications, but Tesla also hinted that it had weapons applications, a directed energy beam that could basically bring down fleets of enemy ships or planes.
Speaker 3:Funny enough speaking of that we talked about in our previous episode, the Philadelphia Experiment. In some of the theories I believe Jason was mentioning how Einstein was brought on because of his theories on everything. Tesla was supposed to be working hand-in in hand with Einstein on the Philadelphia experiment but he dropped out because I believe it was because he didn't have control over everything, like he had too many people above him trying to tell him what to do, so he was like nah, I'm out.
Speaker 5:I'm going to work on my death ray.
Speaker 4:I was never going to be allowed to do anything scientifically like astounding with his findings, because you can't control the masses when you're doing things that nikola tesla wanted to do.
Speaker 5:You know, I'm saying it just wasn't possible I will say in regards to our last episode, philadelphia experiment, uh, that there was a a theory around that that the technology provided for that was taken from aliens but then refined and made usable for humans by a conjunction effort between Albert Einstein, nikola Tesla it always comes back against you and it, but at one step of crazy. Just one more step of crazy all right.
Speaker 4:So where were we okay? So, uh, basically, in the 30s uh, newspapers started dubbing, uh, this concept, uh that nikola tesla was talking about the death ray, though he liked to call it the teleforce weapon. So how is this connected, right? Some theorists claim that in 1908, tesla tested a version of this beam from his wardenclyffe tower and, according to the story, he aimed the device at the arctic circle to demonstrate a wireless power transmission. Um, choosing this area because it was remote and uninhabited. Uninhabited did uninhabited. There was no one there.
Speaker 4:So yeah, so he tried to do his demonstration there, right? So, instead of harmless energy, yeah, seriously, fuck all those animals that like cold, fuck you whale, fuck you whale and a fuck you dolphin. Um, so the experiment allegedly discharged a massive beam that ended up striking siberia, causing the tunguska explosion. So this theory came from um, basically. So this connection wasn't didn't happen until long after the event. Um, it appeared in a bunch of like speculative, ufo paranormal literature from the 1970s where writers connected his experiments um to Tunguska. But the thing is, wardenclyffe's shutdown happened in 1908. The thing is, wardenclyffe's shutdown happened in 1908. So, like, I think, because they were like, ah, like he was here in 1908 and it happened in 1908 that there's like this big connection there, right? Um, some also tie it to robert perry's arctic expedition of the time, claiming that tesla told perry perry I'm not sure how to say it, uh, but to look for a light show in the arctic skies. So it could be very possible that tesla was like testing this out at the time.
Speaker 3:Um do you go into the device that he gave perry at all? Uh, I did not. So tldr, uhdr, tesla he allegedly invented a device that was like a big copper ring with a bunch of other shit to it. But this device could. It was basically like a what is it called? A seismometer, like the thing that senses earthquakes. It was pretty much similar to that, but it could sense and scale um, the energy that's being given off from the death rate. So he gave it to Perry on his trip to Antarctica so he could uh track and and uh uh document the readings he would get from the death rate when it arrives in Antarctica. Basically sent him out there to get readings of the power of the death rate.
Speaker 4:Do you imagine if he he accidentally zapped this dude and he's like oh, there's the. Oh, my god, it's strong, it's very strong, 100%, it's a seismograph. Seismograph, thank you. Or a Richter scale?
Speaker 3:if you're talking about earthquake.
Speaker 2:The seismograph is the device you use to figure out where it measures on a Richter scale. The Richter scale is like it's in numbers, okay.
Speaker 3:Richter I hardly know her.
Speaker 4:God damn it. Alright, so the problems with this theory? Alright. Wardenclyffe Tower wasn't operational in 1908. Tesla struggled with funding and the tower never reached the correct power output required for such things. It just didn't happen. There's no evidence of a beam weapon. Tesla had very, you know, grander ideas, but his teleforce machine, described in the 1930s, was never built. Uh, and the physics of transmitting that much energy wirelessly through the air to siberia is to this day not possible with known science. Um, the blast matches an asteroid airburst, far better tree patterns, seismic waves, etc. Eyewitness reports, all of that fall much more into a probable theory of an airburst from a meteor. So, um, yeah, it's a cool theory, definitely the best theory, but very unlikely theory.
Speaker 3:Unfortunately there's also, uh, there, I forget exactly what it was um, there was a quote that tes Tesla said in like the 30s or something like that, that they think was like a reference to Tunguska. It was something like oh yeah, I unleashed terrible power onto a portion of the earth or something. I forget exactly what it is, but people are like, oh, he's alluding to the Tunguska experiment. He did it and this is his way of telling us. I, I, I enjoyed that. So what are we thinking here, boys? Do you think it's asteroid or Tesla? In my Jason, I'm going to let you go first. Why not both? What if he shot it? And what if he shot the death ray? And immediately, as he was doing that, the asteroid exploded. And he was like, what if we were good time?
Speaker 5:Nazi warlocks, led by Albert Einstein and Nikolai Tesla, were trying to attract a new super weapon, which which basically said hey, we're going to throw asteroids at certain points on Earth because we can attract them using occult rituals and electromagnetism.
Speaker 3:The Nazis used Tesla's death ray to ring the Nazi bell, which caused an asteroid to appear from another dimension and hit Tunguska Boom.
Speaker 4:I think it was the death ray, but hear me out, I think that he was getting no funding because the government was like this shit's too good, we can't let this become a thing. And he was like fuck you, I got it to work and then, as soon as it did work, our government was like shut it down. We got to take whatever this is and we got to take it for ourself. Not that we're blowing anyone up, but you know government shit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're going to wait a couple of years to blow up people up. We're going to couple.
Speaker 4:we're going to couple 30 or so do this on a little, a smaller scale, if you will.
Speaker 3:What do you think, Matthew?
Speaker 2:I think the technology they use in the Philadelphia experiment to accidentally teleport a ship was used on the Tesla that Elon fired into space and then it accidentally came back down in 1908. And as it was about to slam into Russia, the battery detonated and it created this huge explosion.
Speaker 3:The Philadelphia experiment does have time travel capabilities. We established that, yeah, time travel and teleportation. It showed up in the past.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, the ship teleported to somewhere in like the 60s or some fucking shit. So who's to say that you couldn't take a Tesla back to 1908? Behold a shitty car. There's your Tesla.
Speaker 5:Okay, I would encourage the rest of you To do the same. I only refer to Teslas as swastikars. Now.
Speaker 3:That's not bad, it's not bad at all. Hitmobile, shitmobile. But, boys, we got really political on these last two episodes. We're hot, we're spicy. I very much just found, found this topic interesting. There's not really much to it, it's not really anything of value, until you get to the Tesla shit and you're like there it is. That's what this has been missing Is whack job conspiracy. People Just can't be fucking happy. There it is. That's what this has been missing is whack job conspiracy. People just can't be fucking happy with a fucking asteroid hitting the Earth. No, yeah, throw fucking Tesla or something into it.
Speaker 2:The best thing about that is when Michael angrily grabbed his microphone it kind of squealed. So it was like listen here. And another thing.
Speaker 3:People just can't be happy with one fucking thing. No, you got to throw a fucking conspiracy. Not everything is a fucking conspiracy theory. Sometimes it's a rock. What if it is?
Speaker 4:Mike, leave it be. What if it?
Speaker 5:is a conspiracy. What if it is? Leave it be. That question alone is worth billions of dollars every year.
Speaker 2:Honestly, most of the time that Doug was talking, I got distracted by Google Maps and was just digging around in random towns.
Speaker 2:I saw that In the middle of Russia because I Google mapping like area areas, like sparsely populated areas of the planet that you don't know much about is so much fun like sparsely populated areas of the planet that you don't know much about is so much fun. But I found one one bagel like pastry restaurant in the middle of fucking nowhere in the middle of russia. It has 3.8 stars on google maps and it is apparently the only local restaurant within like probably hundreds of miles, and the first review just says I bought myself from shawarma and got poisoned by it.
Speaker 3:Well, that's not good.
Speaker 2:Where do you poop? You have hundreds of miles. You can't go anywhere. You just shit in the river. This right here.
Speaker 4:I guess you just type in Tunguska into Google Maps. There's just a blip that says Tunguska blast event.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was showing it on the stream. If you try to google maps from that to literally anywhere else, it'll give up.
Speaker 3:It'll be like nope government cover up very grassy, very grassy the closest town I could find to.
Speaker 2:It was like a 13 hour drive from the nearest drive through that I could find holy shit, and it was an Arby's no, I didn't have directions from my house it was an Arby's.
Speaker 3:No, I didn't have a directions from my house.
Speaker 5:It was an Arby's slash post office slash, it was everything hospital.
Speaker 4:So apparently you can't drive there or walk or bicycle. That's even worse. That's unfortunate.
Speaker 2:Five out of five stars when they sent people up there. Five out of five stars.
Speaker 3:When they sent people up there. Five out of five stars Paraglide. Well, gentlemen, all I got to say is when, well gentlemen, where are they? What the fuck are they. All I got to say is you know, I think this goes to show that the area of Tunguska in your heart, no matter where you are in the world, is always just a stone's throw away. That's all I got to say, matt. What do you have to say?
Speaker 2:Don't buy shawarma from this place in the russia jason.
Speaker 3:What do you have to say?
Speaker 5:uh, as always, uh, stay paranoid. I do want to, um, I want to correct something, obviously. Uh, I want to say thank you to slapping mothman's ass for correcting me. Rasputin died in 1916, not 1960s, although we did have a very funny conversation about taking him to Woodstock and the drug cult that might come from that thereafter. So, either way, good idea, bring Rasputin to Woodstock.
Speaker 3:Also not to get too deep into Rasputin still, but apparently there is audio of a song, that of him singing a song. I cannot find it for the love of me, so if anyone can find, that audio.
Speaker 5:I need to find that now.
Speaker 3:He sounds like he's like, he's like. He's got such a weird deep voice. If anyone can find that audio. Maybe. Yeah, if anyone can find that audio, throw it in the general chat or, like the patreon chat, throw it somewhere so I can. I can find it. But or just comment something. Get it to me somehow. I need to hear it again. I only heard it once. I can never find it again. Um doug, what do you have to say?
Speaker 4:holy shit, uh, I don't know, I don't know, man, uh, okay, slap if youputin's peen. Well, okay, maybe actually great, great segue. If you take Rasputin's peen and you slap it hard enough, you might create a Tunguska event of your own the smell alone yeah that's all I got. I have nothing else. It's beautiful.
Speaker 3:I'm here for it. Well, everybody may rock. Christ be with you. Hey, I found it. Oh my god, I found it?
Speaker 5:found it? Hey, I'll send it to you. We'll post yes, bye everybody we love you, bye everybody.
Speaker 3:Bye, everybody Bye.
Speaker 2:Don't look under the internet.
