DLUTI 212 - Island of the Dolls

What's up with all these dolls on this island, man?

Transcript

Cold Open And Housekeeping Bits

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Don't look under the internet.

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Never been less ready.

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Fantastic. Hello, everyone. Welcome to Don't Look Under the Internet. Damn. An internet comedy horror podcast featuring the yours truly the likes of a Doug. Hi Hi. Hi. Jason. Hello, hello. Me. And it's also introducing TopTech's boat. His name is Mike, by the way. I'm Mike. That's my name. I got a little uh a couple of things I want to give off. First and foremost, Diluty Housekeeping. Clap above your head, clap above your head, clap above your head. I got a couple names that I want to shout out there. First and foremost, we have uh actually before before I get into the names, we're gonna play the game.

SPEAKER_03 1:12

Name?

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Is that good? Or is it bad? Is this a name?

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Is this a name?

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Name? So, first off, we have Austin Walker. Austin, I'm sorry. I appreciate the tenor, but I'm gonna have to go with a three on the name scale, considering it's just your name. Why don't you follow in the footsteps of my PP Hertz?

SPEAKER_02 1:30

Yeah, right. What was their name again? Austin What? Austin Walker.

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Ryan, Ryan unfollowed us.

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What does that mean? Ryan?

SPEAKER_01 1:40

Yeah, he had a free account. Ryan, if you're listening, you cheap bitch. You weren't even paying and you cancel. Fuck you. Based on that conversation, I don't think he's listening. Probably not. Well, yes, Austin Walker. Don't worry about people. Ryan's a friend of ours, so it's fine. I'll just give it him.

SPEAKER_03 1:58

Is he? Not anymore now.

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After this? Not anymore. Um, what do you guys think of Austin's name? Austin Walker.

SPEAKER_03 2:04

I mean Austin. It's a name. It is. And you know, Walker is in the whole name of Walker, Texas Ranger, so like there's some segue there. I don't know.

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I was gonna say he could have just he could have done anything with that. It's true. Christopher Walk Walken.

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She just sharpened it to Waston.

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Up next, we have About Bunny. And Bunny spelled B-U-N-N-I-E-E. About Bunny. About Bunny?

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I'll give it. Yeah, what about Bunny?

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About Bunny. I'm gonna be real with you. I'm gonna give you maybe like a five. It's not your name. Out of ten.

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I thought you were gonna say like twenty-three or something. That's a very out of fourteen. I've got to do 23. It's a very specific scale. Uh we're getting we're getting we're getting some some real about bunny. Mid-level. Well, okay, I have to give it like a six out of ten simply because it's making me just think about shit, I guess. It's it's it's causing me to think about the name more for more than half a second.

Absurd TMZ “Scoop” And Wordplay

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So they got you a little bit. They got you a little more than half. Okay. A little smudge. Okay. Well, boys. That I'm it's a fucking cold. That's gonna conclude. Housekeeping! Housekeeping! That's not the end of this. Wanna why? No. Holy shit! Boys! I got another I got another text alert! TMZ's got this card.

SPEAKER_03 3:30

I thought you were blacklisted from their fucking wire.

SPEAKER_01 3:33

I guess you weren't here the last two couple times. No, actually, they hit me up twice. Well, you sent them like four and a half fax holes. Yeah. Recently they've been I say I got a text alert, but they have not been sending text. It's more like they've been like, you know, you know how some like lawn care services will put like their like advertisement in a Ziploc baggie with a rock on your driveway. They've been doing that, but with scoops. Okay. So I found another one on my driveway today. Um here's a scoop from TMZ. It turns out that we we've you guys, we've we've been we've been all wrong, we've gotten all we've gotten it all wrong this entire time. Jesus Christ was in is in fact real.

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But with a twist, he turns out we're both trying to figure out where the fuck this is going on.

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TMZ was able to figure out that the spirit of Jesus Christ has now manifested itself into some celebrities. That's right, celebrities, a plural. Three of them the power of Jesus Christ was too great for just one person to possess these days. So Jesus has apparently split his power among multiple celebrities. Witnesses claim they have seen Christopher walking on water. Oh they also saw Dolly part in the Red Sea. No. We even had some celebrities uh uh change every aspect of themselves, apparently, to match their powers. One celebrity had the ability to turn water into other liquids. They recently came out other water. TMZ actually had an interview with this man explaining the whole thing. Um, and you'll you'll catch it probably on their website later. It's uh it's called uh TMZ's interview with uh Weinel Richie. So that's the scoop. I'll see you later, buddy. Um I don't think Jason's letting me in his house anymore.

SPEAKER_02 5:36

Is there a way to unsubscribe from getting those scoops sent to you?

SPEAKER_01 5:41

Well, they're just rock, they're just baggies on my driveway, so I don't think so. I don't even know who's I woke up one morning at like 4 a.m. There's just a black van that just drove by going like 40 miles per hour. I'm in a kid's zone, dog. It's keep kids alive, drive 25. And he just chucked like seven of them out. Oh, that's our that's our cash only paper.

SPEAKER_02 6:00

I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure if you hit a kid doing 25, it's still gonna be bad. I think it's still illegal.

SPEAKER_01 6:07

Yeah, it's still illegal.

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It's still it's still illegal, but it's the 20s.

SPEAKER_01 6:12

Can I be can I be totally up front with you guys about something? I hope so. I came up with the concept of that scoop today while taking a shit. I literally, this is how my brain works. Literally, for some reason, Dolly Parton came up in my head, and I was like, Dolly Parton, Parton the Red Sea, am I right? And then I was like, ooh, where can I go from here? I have no doubt. There's examining wiped my ass. That's pretty much how it went.

SPEAKER_03 6:42

Um goddammit. Sometimes the way I get places is so childish. I am happy TMZ reports is back. I will say, as as painful as they might be sometimes, it it it reaffirms that my life is better.

SPEAKER_01 6:57

Yeah, there's there's routine. I would have to agree. Um sometimes though, the way I come up with things is childish, boys. So childish, in fact, that maybe I should start carrying around a doll.

Transition To Island Of The Dolls

SPEAKER_03 7:08

Well, no, you belong on the island of misfit toys, isn't that what we're talking about?

SPEAKER_01 7:12

Kind of. It is. It does kind of have that that feel to it. So that was a better segue. I'm gonna roll off of that one. So instead of the island of misfit toys, we're going to an island of what the fuck toys. Perfectly groomed dolls. Perfectly groomed dolls. We are talking today about the island of the dolls. Um or the Isla de las Muñecas. Muñecas. Muñecas. Isla de las muñecas. Yeah, the Enya. Muñecas. There you go. Yeah, you gotta really get that passion. I just heard an acoustic guitar in the background goo doo doo doo doo.

SPEAKER_02 7:50

That was kind of cool. Um as we sit here trying to pronounce Spanish words.

SPEAKER_01 7:55

Oh, it's gonna get worse. I have to say the name where this thing takes place. So um That's why I thought I was going first. No, I got you. So Island of the Dolls. This has been this is nothing new. I'm sure plenty of people that are listening have heard about it or watched the Ghost Adventures episode on it, which guess we're gonna be talking about later. Um, but it's this this is this has been a phenomenon for a while.

SPEAKER_03 8:17

Isn't that the town full of dolls, like inhabited completely by dolls versus the island of dolls?

SPEAKER_01 8:24

Well, if you want to kind of spoil what we might talk about later, yeah, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 8:27

I'm just remembering the episode that aired fucking 15 years ago.

SPEAKER_01 8:31

Oh, yeah. Oh no, they never did one on the the the town full of dolls. They just did the island of the stuff.

SPEAKER_03 8:36

Okay.

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But as far as I know, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 8:38

Well, I saw it 15 years ago, Mike, so I might know better. You're right.

SPEAKER_02 8:43

It did air in 2013.

Xochimilco And Chinampas Explained

SPEAKER_01 8:44

So yeah, yeah, you're close, yeah. I was I was close. Um, so the island of the dolls, where it be, what it be. It is exactly what it sounds like. This island of dolls is I will help you with explaining what these things are. How about that? I will yeah, I will help you explaining what these things are. So this island of this dolls is located in one of the uh canals in uh that that are off of uh Za Zachim Zachimilco. I've told you I'm not gonna pronounce these. I think it's S-O-T-C-S-H and then which is basically a town that is a little bit of ways away from uh Mexico City. Um I think it's like an hour away or something. It's relatively close, all things considered. But um this island, you can take boats to this island. Um and you have to take a boat because this island is in one of the canals that was built during the Aztec period of it was on a chin uh chinampa.

SPEAKER_03 9:50

Yeah. Chinampa is basically in um a man-made area of like cultivatable soil to grow crops.

SPEAKER_01 9:59

I'm really glad you knew that word and didn't at all just read it off the screen. I had to look at it because I don't know how to pronounce it, but I like how you know it. Ah yes, I uh it's pronounced the chinam. Well, no, like this so it cultured.

SPEAKER_03 10:12

So Xochimilco is it's this lake and it's full of these like little stretches of land where like fucking thousands, hundreds and thousands of years ago during the Aztec times. During the Aztec times, um, they would cultivate crops in the alien times, the alien times. Absolutely, but they would cultivate crops on this uh on this lake basically because like it's it's a fucking lake, like you don't have to water them anymore. You just put the soil on the lake and you're good. And so this this whole lake is like full of these things. This whole area that we're talking about today is 100% on one of these old um like cultivatable topsoil mounds in a lake.

SPEAKER_01 10:51

It's its own agricultural area. Wonder. Wonder, yeah. Um it dirt now it dirt, it big dirt, it's it's man dirt man dirt man dirt with water. Um there are there are plenty of islands, um uh or sorry, Jason. Uh yeah chini chininamp. What is it? Chinampas. Chinampas. There's plenty of chinampas. Fucking cultured fools. Yeah, um plenty of chinampas uh in this area uh of uh Sochimilko, and this is the one that stands out the most, obviously, because it's full of fucking dolls. Um there are other ones that are like copycats, they're other islands that have a bunch of dolls on them too. They're just trying to basically trick you into going to those instead of the real one. Um and because the real one, I assume it's because A, people are greedy, and B, the real one is kind of far away. If you're going by regular boat, it takes like an hour and a half to to just manually paddle over there. Manually, like yeah, it takes an hour and a half. Um whereas if you take a motorboat, I mean you're getting there ASAP, but um on the the main way to get of getting there, which I thought I I loved this. So in this area, this town, um, the way to get to the through this can uh these uh canals is these boats. I forgot what they're called, but they're basically like pontoon kind of boats, you know? And um they're they're they have tables in the center, uh, they got chairs all around them. They it's like a whole thing. They it it's like a banana boat style kind of ride. It's very cool looking. And you go on there, and this canal system has like its own economy, essentially. Like you'll go on like like us boys, we could rent a guy's boat, he'll take us out on the canal anywhere we want to go. And while we're out there, there are vendors on their own canal on their own boats in this canal with like drinks and fruit and artificial and especially the artichokes. Um, actually. Um but I thought that was very interesting. And these boats, from what I I discovered, a lot of the boats are named after uh loved ones that have passed away, or uh Carl. People things that are very yeah, or Bradley, Braxton. Um a lot of those boats in a couple years. Uh, but they're named after either people that you know the boat owner cared a lot about, or apparently recently there's been about a lot that are like celebrity-based. Um, one of them, when I was watching a video, one was called the Nancy Parker, and I'm like, that's not a that's not a Mexican name. I don't know who that is, but that's a white white woman's boat right there. I don't know what gave you that idea.

SPEAKER_02 13:34

Nancy Parker.

SPEAKER_01 13:35

Nancy Parker. Hola, my name's Nancy Parker. Um but it all this this island was pretty much the chinamba. This this shit fuck off this. This island was created by uh a man, or at least the doll aspect of it was created by a man named Don Julian Santana. Barrera. Barrera, thank you. Uh forgot about the last name there. Um Jason, do you know a little bit about uh Don?

Don Julian And The First Dolls

SPEAKER_03 14:08

I do actually. I know way too much. Um so in like the mid-20th century, uh Juan or Barrera began to collect dolls. You know, there's not a lot known about this individual, however, the one thing that is his claim to fame is he collects dolls. And for some reason he found himself uh living on this island. Um it is it's known that this man is a is a he's a hermit. Like he he's very antisocial. He just fucking wants to be left alone.

SPEAKER_01 14:42

Do you know the actual reason why he went to the island? It's it's a little funny. Are you aware of it?

SPEAKER_02 14:48

Uh I actually have a few different like recollections, so it depends on what one you're there's there's a there's a legendary one.

SPEAKER_01 14:57

And there's also uh the theory is he wanted to get the fuck out of his marriage, basically. He went to the island to his to escape his wife, and I think like I I don't think there was a child in it. Yeah, but he was like, I gotta get away from this lady. So he left to an island to live by himself.

SPEAKER_03 15:16

Ooh, so can we speculate real quick? So that all this says is that in the mid-20th century, Barrera began to collect dolls and hang them around this small island. There's no backstory about why. Can we just say that this man I have I have all of the why to that actually? Oh, yeah. Oh, cool, great, awesome. Because I so I just looked into like the history. I know nothing about it. I left the spooky legend stuff to him. I wanted you to get more. Yeah, I got I yeah. I didn't want to know what I wanted to be surprised by all this. So, all that I know is all I've heard and all I've seen and all I've read is that the mid-20th century is this man started collecting dolls. Now, when you read that on a sourced website, I kind of start to think there might be a reason for that, but well, we might go into that later. Um the island. I'll definitely go into it, I promise. Cool, great. The whole reason for this episode. Um the island gained a lot of notoriety around 1943 when uh Mexican director Emilio Fernandez used it as the location of the film Maria Candelaria. I'm sure that's a much bigger film in other countries. I just I've never heard the title.

SPEAKER_01 16:32

It's it's Mexico's uh uh what's the one with the sled Rosebud.

SPEAKER_03 16:36

Oh Susan Cain. Um, is it is a melodrama film written and directed by Emilio Fernandez, starring a bunch of people that we don't know. Um and it did won a win a bunch of awards. Um came to be regarded as this director's best works, in which he portrays the indigenous people of Mexico with innocence and dignity. So great. It's got some some infamy there, or some not some infamy.

SPEAKER_02 17:01

What if it was the opposite? What if they were like fuck these people? They were nasty and not no dignity, no dignity whatsoever. Um like that's all this man dirt around.

SPEAKER_03 17:14

So this this island got it gained some notoriety just basically because this fucking random ass hermit lives on this island. Uh sorry, this chinampa, which is a man-made island made for cultivating fruits and veggies, um, filled it with dogs.

SPEAKER_02 17:32

Let it be known right now. I will not be into saying that word. Chinampa. I will be calling it an island from here on out.

SPEAKER_01 17:42

Doug will not be PC.

Film History And Tourism Context

SPEAKER_03 17:43

I don't know why I try to inject culture into this fucking podcast. I have no idea why I try. Um Junumba. So all we know is that this man kind of founded the whole thing. Now, I just hear Jenumba. I I cannot talk about any of his early life on the island without giving away like every creepy thing about the fucking island. So after Barrera died in 2001, his family uh opened the island to the public as a tourist attraction. And in addition to the hundreds of dolls, the grounds host three huts, a small museum with articles from local newspapers about both the island and the previous owner, and in the one uh the one room hut that Barrera slept in, the first doll that he ever correct ever collected was is displayed as well as his favorite one with the name I don't recognize. Augustina Augustina, his favorite doll. Um he'd be having sex with that doll. Literally, this is just like a this is like a cultural icon for the area. And again, this is like Mike said, this is south of Mexico City, about an hour. Um, it's on it's on one of these man-made islands in the middle of a lake. Um, and also when you go here, you are gonna find many, many more of these man-made islands because this lake was actually like known for that. Um, the people that lived that used to live here at the Aztecs, um they they were very much known for cultivating and making shit grow wherever it could, even if it shouldn't be able to. So that's why they made these big ass mounds. There's tons of them all over this lake, but this one is fucking littered with haunted dolls. And it is actually the um the biggest collection of haunted dolls um in the world. They get Guinness to approve that one. They actually did in 2022.

SPEAKER_01 19:31

The Guinness guy's staying in the night, and he's just like, Oh, yep, that counts. In 2022, yeah. Huh. Interesting. Yeah, this is awful. Uh here's your record. Yeah. Um they gave it to one of the dolls, and they have a picture with the doll holding it, like, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:44

If you would like to go visit this island, it is very much accessible via gondola like gondola-leg boats referred to as trajineras.

SPEAKER_01 19:52

That's the word I couldn't remember.

SPEAKER_03 19:53

Most rowers are willing to transport people to the island, but there are those who refuse simply because of superstition and/slash or fear. Fear.

SPEAKER_01 20:03

Um I did find out that this uh island actually became one of Mexico's like largest tourist attractions.

SPEAKER_02 20:10

Oh, it's attractions, especially for the I I have a part about that actually, it's not really important, but uh yeah, it's like huge dark tourism spot. Like that's one of the biggest.

SPEAKER_03 20:21

I love that dark tourism is a fucking concept. Like, that's great.

SPEAKER_02 20:25

Yeah, love it. There's a really good dark dark tourist, like there's I think it's a show on Netflix, I can't remember, but it's a really good like little mini-series if you ever want to watch it.

SPEAKER_03 20:36

Yeah, obviously. Lots of good stuff. Um, outside of that, um, you can find this stop in the lake on many tours in the area. Most of them also include other museums and such in the area, because apparently the stop is does not warrant a full three-hour tour. Um hour and a half of that is just paddling too with the fucking thing. So yeah, pretty much. But yeah, no, apparently this is just uh this is one of a man-made island that's that some dude decided, you know what, fuck the world. I'm gonna live here and I'm gonna plaster it with dolls. But we don't know why. Or do we? We might know why, Doug.

Legends Of The Drowned Girl

SPEAKER_02 21:14

I'll tell you why. So let's go into the Don Julian origins, okay? So this is the first legend, and probably the biggest thing you'll hear if this if you were to look this up, um, you'll see this kind of plastered everywhere. Um, but it's the drowned girl and the first doll. So uh basically, according to the most famous version of the legend, uh Julian claimed that he discovered the body of a young girl who drowned in the canal near his island. Um it's not clear if he tried to save her or like couldn't save her, or if he just uh like found her, but um there's a lot of different stories, and the only persons that really can like that had talked to this guy or can refute anything that he said, uh both just seem like they don't really care. I don't know how to put it any better than that. Um but long story short, uh so he finds the body of a young girl, um, and then a few days later, he actually finds a doll floating in the water right in the same spot, tangled up in uh the reeds. So he believed that this belonged to the dead child, and he hung the doll in a nearby tree as a way to honor her spirit and ward off evil. Um there is no official record of the drowning, but the story persists among locals, and uh Julian himself often repeats it as the truth. Um after hanging the first doll, he began to feel unsettled on the island, and he told people he could hear like whispering and footsteps and crying in the night, and the voice of the drowned girl asking for companionship. Umpe, you get the hug off that.

unknown 23:01

Nah.

SPEAKER_02 23:03

Um so to quiet her spirit, he began to collect more dolls, uh, salvaging them from the trash, from canals, and even accepting broken or discarded ones from visitors. He hung them all over the islands, uh or on the island, uh, on trees, fences, walls, inside of his hut. Some dolls were missing eyes, other had no limbs or heads. He didn't really care about the condition. Every doll he said carried a soul. So over the decades, the island transformed into like this surreal forest of like decaying dolls, and locals who rode past thought he had kind of gone mad. Um he often talked to the dolls as if they were alive. Um, but to him, the island was a sacred uh space and a shrine to protect both himself and the wandering spirits in the canal. Uh, he sometimes told visitors that each doll was a spirit and they helped chase away the ghost of the drowned girl. Uh so in 2001, about 50 years of living on the island, he actually died in a really twist of fate kind of situation. Um his nephew found him dead in the same canal uh where he had found the little girl decades earlier.

SPEAKER_01 24:10

Apparently the same spot, too.

SPEAKER_02 24:12

Yeah, same spot. Um so his nephew essentially found him face down in like the same spot. Um and when he had seen the like when he found the body, the last thing he saw was this big fucking huge fish, like kind of looking at the nephew, and then like unsurfaced. And what's weird about this is that the nephew claims that um there aren't that type of fish in this canal. Like you won't see a big fish like that in the cal canal anywhere. There's it just doesn't exist, it's not a thing. So they assume that this large fish was taking the soul of the uncle to now basically be like um the protector of the souls of all the dolls in the afterlife instead of in real life.

SPEAKER_01 25:01

I think part of that has to do are you gonna go into like uh the aquatic mythology?

SPEAKER_02 25:09

Uh not specifically. You're you're more than welcome to pass a knowledge on.

SPEAKER_01 25:15

So a big a big thing that happened with uh the cousin or the the nephew as well, Anastasio, I think his name was Anastasio. So first and foremost, Anastasio was he went to the island to help um Don plant pumpkins, and he was like, Oh, he was all good and everything, he was fine until I walked away for a little bit and then he just vanished and I found him dead in the canal. Um, but apparently Don was very superstitious and he believed in mermaids. Um so uh I guess I guess mermaids is like a big like belief thing back in like the 50s and whatnot.

SPEAKER_03 25:49

It also depends on what culture you're looking at.

SPEAKER_01 25:51

Yeah, but when Don was growing up, he always mentioned how um one day the the mermaids will call him to the sea or to the water, things like that, and he believed in them. So he saw that fish, and he was like, Oh, I believe that might have been like a mermaid that called him to the sea.

SPEAKER_03 26:08

It's like it's like that death clock song. Which one I don't know Mermaider, mermaider or go into the water, one of the go into the water, yeah. Yeah, either one.

SPEAKER_01 26:18

Either fucking one, but yeah, I thought that was very interesting. It it adds to the twist of fate type of thing to it, where it's like I know, you know.

Death, Mermaids, And Local Lore

SPEAKER_02 26:27

Um okay, so yeah, yeah. The the whole mermaid thing is really interesting, actually. Um in the lore of mermaids. Apparently, only some people like have the ability to see them or hear them too, which is kind of interesting, I think. But anyways, they're fake, so um uh anyway, so after his death, join us on the next cryptid corner where we just dunk up mermaids, we just shit all over fish people. Mermaids suck, they have the wrong half of the woman. Um but then you wouldn't have to boo.

SPEAKER_03 27:03

Yeah, but you would have fuck a uh whatever.

SPEAKER_01 27:06

You can fuck a fish. Ask fucking Tom Cruise. Okay, yeah, that's you know what?

SPEAKER_02 27:10

He did give us something. You're not wrong. And he be fucking living forever, so maybe you know maybe there's something to fucking fish. Maybe there's something to fish fucking. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 27:21

Just make a quick academ, put your dick and a fish.

SPEAKER_02 27:25

It's great. It's my dick and a fish. Um, okay, so after his death, um the island basically remained exactly as he had left it. His family now maintains it, operates it, um, and they occasionally open it to visitors. Um, the dolls are still hanging there today. Uh lots of paranormal investigators uh say they hear whispering and children's laughter and movement among the dolls, and that they think that uh Julian Spirit is, you know, watching over the uh the children, if you will. So um if they're moving basically, a lot of people think that he he ended up becoming the guardian of the dolls, like I mentioned, um, from beyond the grave. So that being said, uh, we kind of covered a little of the dark tourism aspect of everything, so I won't go over that again. Um, but there are some other just legends to this uh, I guess, island, if you will. Um, so there's the whispering doll uh legend, which we kind of also went over, but there's a lot of whispering. So they say when the wind blows through, you can hear like the dolls almost talking to each other. Um, you you can hear like murmurs and giggles and even prayers. Um, and basically the whispers are believed to warn visitors not to stay too long after dark. Um, good job, Zach Baggins. Um but uh that's so that's one of the legends. There's another the that's called the Cursed Collector Legend, where in some retellings um Don Julian isn't a protector, but he's actually cursed by the doll. And after he hung the first one, he began to experience bad luck and terrifying visions, and the only way to silence them was to hang more dolls, each one absorbing a part of his torment. And some versions even go further where every doll represents a piece of Jul Julian's soul, meaning that the more dolls he hung, the less remain of himself remained crux situation, yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_01 29:15

Do you think uh not to cut you off, but no, you're fine. How crazy do you think he sounded trying to explain this situation to anyone around him? Like, no, you don't get it. I'm hanging up, you don't understand I'm hanging up dolls to appease the girl ghost.

SPEAKER_02 29:32

Idiot. Yeah, I I it's it's funny because like I have to imagine um this guy was just like in this shack by himself, smoking and drinking every day of his life, and then his nephew, you know, was helping out, and then I'm I'm sure this man had like a fucking heart attack or something and just like died. But he's like, they took him the fish, the fish took him, and the dolls, you know, and it's just some crazy. Dude that just like fucking died because all he did for 50 years was drink and smoke and left his wife.

SPEAKER_03 30:08

And this is how we come up with an entire thing.

SPEAKER_01 30:10

The funny thing is, the funny thing is, I I was watching um it might be a little biased, but in one of the episodes I was or videos I was watching, one of his friends or something was like, Oh yeah, he was he was beloved all around the town, everyone loved him. And then ever since the incident, like he became a hermit, he didn't talk to anybody, so we just kind of lost track of him for the most part. It's like yeah, we know what probably happened is people started seeing this crazy man put dolls up on an island.

SPEAKER_03 30:34

People were like, Don't don't talk to him, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:37

No, just leave him alone.

SPEAKER_03 30:39

No interaction, not until you're 18.

SPEAKER_02 30:43

Yeah, I I don't I don't know how you you really don't come back from like a crazy man hanging dolls on an island.

Whispering Dolls And Curses

SPEAKER_03 30:51

Like okay, what's the number? Like what okay, you get to fifty like 14 dolls. That's acceptable throughout a house, right? Or an island, right?

SPEAKER_02 31:02

Well, okay, so what's like how what's of course we have we have Mike Manning the Twitch right now, but like if you look at this fucking island, like when you see the island, like I don't know if you saw any of the pictures, Jason, but like Yeah, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:17

It's bad. Oh it's not like it's not good. How like that's that is what that is my question is how the fuck like day one versus day three hundred?

SPEAKER_02 31:26

Like what what's the I think as soon as the dolls move from his one bedroom shack to being hung by the streams out of a tree, I think that's when you call it uh when the guy would hey this guy needs medical attention, like ASAP.

SPEAKER_03 31:42

Actually, ooh, no, he doesn't because he lives by himself. You don't this is his own hilaria. He he can do it, like you know what I mean? Like, I think about my own.

SPEAKER_02 31:54

He died loving what he did. Fucking dolls.

SPEAKER_03 31:58

I think putting it on the ball.

SPEAKER_02 32:01

All right, somebody bring the black light out there and be like, all right, how many of these dolls have fucking?

SPEAKER_01 32:05

I'm Zach Baggins. I'm here to find the amount of jizz that's on all these dolls. Holy shit, that's a useless.

SPEAKER_02 32:11

Some people will jizz more than you will ever understand.

SPEAKER_01 32:14

Don was Don was out here cranking his hog to a bunch of new diluti channel.

SPEAKER_03 32:19

It's just called How Much Jizz is in here.

SPEAKER_02 32:21

How much jizz is This man was cranking his hog, so I I I tried to speak with him from beyond the grave by cranking my hog.

SPEAKER_01 32:33

Spirit spirit are you cranking your hog around the house?

SPEAKER_02 32:38

Yes. It sounds like sounds like some fapping in the bed in the distance. Are we picking that up on camera? Um we'll talk about Zach Baggins in a little bit. We're I'm almost done. So um, a couple more legends. Uh the Possessed Island Theory uh is a darker take that claims that the island itself became a living entity feeding on grief and fear. Um visitors also report uh feeling watched even during the day when you're on the island. And a lot of the time the electronics fail, uh boats get caught in the weeds near the island, and uh they say that the island is pulling you in, so you have to get off of your boat. No, it's just warn it is just scalp, but locals warn that if you take a doll from the island, bad luck will follow you home until it's returned. Um that I believe.

SPEAKER_03 33:26

Yeah, because like why the fuck would you do that?

SPEAKER_02 33:29

Uh on a lighter end, we have that the uh a more hopeful interpretation, if you will, is that locals and shamans say that the dolls are not haunted, but protective spirits. Each doll watches over the canals and keep away dark energies, and people who visit respectively often leave with blessings, um, and those who mock the dolls will leave with misfortune. Um, and this kind of paints the island as more of like a sanctuary as opposed to a like a place of evil. Um and then there's a newer urban legend that says that each doll brought to the island becomes infected, um, and tourists who leave new dolls might later have nightmares or hear the dolls like calling them back up. Yeah, infected by what does that mean? By the island.

SPEAKER_03 34:15

Well, you see, when a when a a male doll and a when man dirt and woman dirt love each other very much, and they both have herpes.

SPEAKER_02 34:25

To be fair, I couldn't find a whole lot about this newer urban legend other than like this like three sentences that I have.

SPEAKER_03 34:32

Um the rage virus, like from 28 days later, but doll for uh a monkey looks at you wrong and all of a sudden you're angry type thing. Uh a breeze rolls in, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:45

Um and then yeah, yeah, you're just infected, but doll infected. Um so this uh this belief that the dolls would get infected have now stopped people from leaving their dolls there because they're afraid that they'll start being you know haunted by the island essentially. And then the last legend that I have is the is called the lantern on the canal. Basically, a bunch of the boat operators out there say that there's a glowing lantern lanterns that appear on the island late at night. Um, and they think it's just Julian's ghost like kind of rowing silently between the canals, making sure everything's good on the island still. Um, and if you follow the light, um it'll lead you in circles until sunrise, and you'll never find the island again.

SPEAKER_03 35:32

Bum bum boom. This is just Pirates of the Caribbean. This is turning very much into Pirates of the Caribbean.

SPEAKER_01 35:40

Pirates of the Caribbean. Your child is insane. She's loud, like wow. I don't think it's being picked up, which is good, but still. No, but I hear it. Pirates of the Caribbean. How the hell do we get here?

SPEAKER_02 35:53

Pirates of the Parabian.

SPEAKER_01 35:55

Bring me that horizon. Bring me that horizon.

SPEAKER_02 35:58

Um Yeah, so that's that's pretty much that's pretty much the gist of this story in a nutshell.

SPEAKER_03 36:05

I like the legend way, way more than like the the history. Who's this guy?

SPEAKER_02 36:12

Yeah Yeah. The the the actual history of the islands is just fine as far as it's just an old history goes.

SPEAKER_03 36:21

It's an old Atlasek farming mound. Like that's it, that's it. That's the whole history.

SPEAKER_01 36:26

Pretty much.

SPEAKER_03 36:27

Come on and watch a scroll.

Protective Spirits And Dark Tourism

SPEAKER_01 36:30

Come on and come on at all. Um now our our our good friends at Ghost Adventures did cover did go to the island in season 12, episode 4 of Your Ghost Adventures. Um and there's some things that happened there which can only be explained by CGI and SFX. Can only be explained by Zach Bagan's power as a demonologist and psychic Jason. A Tulpa survivor? Yes.

SPEAKER_02 37:01

Let me tell you, I was talking to Zach earlier, right? Oh shit. And he let me know that everything that happened in that episode is real, and it happened. And there's you can't even there's no you can't even def just like refute it. It's it happened for sure.

SPEAKER_01 37:22

Yeah. Um so I'm I'm I'm I'm a big fan of the Ghost Adventures. I love it. It's my it's the my equivalent of trash TV. Ghost Adventures to me is like keeping up to the Kardashians to other people, you know what I mean? Um I fucking love it. It's that garbage TV. Um Shatner's Unexplained. If, yeah, kind of.

SPEAKER_03 37:43

That was actually pretty good. I like that. I did too, but also it's way too dramatic.

SPEAKER_01 37:47

If some of these things that happened are legit, it's fucking terrifying. Although, with it being Ghost Adventures, a very highly produced network TV show that desperately needs your ratings, it's up in the air on how much of this is legit or not.

SPEAKER_03 38:03

Do you know how many things I can say that about and be correct?

SPEAKER_01 38:07

A lot of things. Almost all of them. So when Zach and the gang went to the island, um they brought Zach and his baggins. And his baggins. Zach and the baggins. Um, he brought with him one of Don's uh buddies that he used to hang out with all the time. And um they gosh, she's just she's like fucking river dancing up there, I swear to God. Lord of the dance.

SPEAKER_02 38:32

You can hear it actually, by the way. You can? Yeah. Oh hell yeah. It's funny, dude.

SPEAKER_01 38:37

It's loud.

SPEAKER_02 38:38

Um yeah, I know I can hear that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:41

Oh yeah, that's my girl. Fucking clogs up there.

SPEAKER_03 38:43

Um, the Irish community in Chicago, as long as she brings one potato?

SPEAKER_01 38:50

Two that makes sense. That makes sense. So uh am I gonna have to get a broom? Jesus Christ. Give it down! Hey man, let's have her fun. A fucking bottom level tenant in my own goddamn home.

SPEAKER_03 39:08

Just remember, she will never have this much fun again.

SPEAKER_01 39:10

Yeah, not so much.

SPEAKER_02 39:11

You can technically evict.

SPEAKER_03 39:16

That is a legal option. I need 30 days. Um as long as you can prove it's not yours, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:21

Anyway, I'm gonna try to get us back on track, but good luck. So Zach Bagins has a couple things happen to them. First off, on this island, lots of spiders. Let me tell you. I'm out. Lots of spiders. I would not touch this fucking island. I also watched um, was it the Watchers on YouTube or whatever that cover this as well? Um, they go there and um the watchers, watcher, something like that, whatever it is. Um, but uh they go there, too many spiders, man, and they're they're big ins, they're big boys, no thank you.

SPEAKER_02 39:50

Yeah, I think there's like like tarantulas are like native there, so no thank you.

SPEAKER_01 39:54

They're just there. No thank you.

SPEAKER_02 39:56

Big fancy assholes. One thing I noticed when I was like watching that episode was like there are so there's so many cobwebs, and I mean, granted, the fucking dude's been dead for a while, like you know, like 20 plus years now. Yeah, yeah. But like, holy shit, these dolls look like some look like they're just like molted lava to way. Yeah, and then some are just like covered like yeah, some are covered just like head to toe in fucking spiders and cobwebs and shit.

SPEAKER_03 40:23

And it's like I saw I saw one doll that was too covered in cobwebs. I'm like, cool, I am done researching images for this. Done with this, because the next one is gonna be bad.

SPEAKER_01 40:34

Which makes me believe maybe he didn't die from a spirit, maybe a spider bit him.

SPEAKER_02 40:39

Spiders just fed his intestines. Hands down, gotta be what happened.

SPEAKER_01 40:44

But he lived there. He lived there for a while.

SPEAKER_03 40:47

Oh, yeah, he totally got a fucking spider bite that killed him.

Ghost Adventures On The Island

SPEAKER_01 40:50

But so when Zach Begins goes, a couple things happen. First and foremost, they go to the island and like a fire just randomly like starts on its own. And uh they're like, how did fire start? I never see fire start like that before. Definitely not my pyrotechnic crew that did this beforehand. Definitely not the guys that when when they were off camera lit it, but I digress and we're just reading.

SPEAKER_02 41:11

The funny is it's well it's super funny because they were there with that friend you mentioned, and when they're like freaking out about the fire, or okay, so it shows like these like two different clips, and they're like walking around, and it's him and Aaron, you know, just tramping around, and then like they like hear the shit going on, they're like, What the fuck? And it's like, well, there's clearly one dude that's not with you right now, yeah. And actually your your other camera guy that's like not with you right now. So, like, who do you think it is? And then they come back and there's a fire, like the guy was supposed to stand there in the dark by himself, like, or something.

SPEAKER_03 41:45

Like, Doug, you are not the target audience.

SPEAKER_02 41:49

No, but I do I again I do love the show a lot.

SPEAKER_01 41:53

Um, so there's like a random fire. The one that was creepy, and I could totally see this one kind of being a bit more legit than the fucking fire, but again, it's ghost adventures, so but they go into one of the rooms, and um they brought they brought a haunted dog doll. I forgot his name, his name was like Henry or Harold. Harold, that's the one. They brought Harold the haunted doll with him, and they're like, let's see if all these dolls like each other. Yay! What? Yeah, and um so they go to get a doll orgy. Yeah, and they go to get the doll out of a bag. They go to get the doll out of a bag, and then like a cat fight breaks out, like a literal two cats are just like and then it's like and they're like, What the fuck? And then one of the dolls starts laughing. And it's fucking creepy. It is legitimately creepy, and then they go up to they go up to the doll that they think was making the sounds, and like they're like, see if there's a battery in there. They just find like wires hanging out, there's no battery, which is legit. Like that, if I heard that, here's the thing. And then I shut my pants and then I turned on the TV. Yeah, they stuck around on this fucking island the moment, the moment I hear those dolls laughing, I'm swimming back. Get the boat.

SPEAKER_02 42:58

Yeah. Well, not even to mention before before that even happened, during the day when they visited, uh Zach just like randomly had like a bruise in the shape of like a baby's hand on his arm.

SPEAKER_00 43:11

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_02 43:12

And he's like, I don't even know where this came from. He was like genuinely like confused. He's like, I he's like, dude, I don't fucking know. Definitely not done off camera. I mean, I so I I will say there are some things that I will see them do that you can tell is overacting. Oh, yeah. And then there are some times where you like feel like they're like genuinely like, what the fuck is happening? And I think that the bruise thing was like a genuine one because of the way he reacted. It wasn't like super over the top. He was just like, he was just like, he's like, I really have no idea where this came from. And like he wasn't overselling it or being weird about it at all. So I was like, that felt fairly genuine as opposed to like when the dolls thing happened, they were like, Oh, oh my god!

SPEAKER_03 43:55

Yeah, like you know, they were like freaking out to expect, yes, correct. Like most of the reactions to the weird paranormal things that happen around Zach Maggins and his crew, yeah, are fucking just they're just so exaggerated.

SPEAKER_01 44:11

The one the one that's why I'm like, I the one that I think was a little bit real. They had the the the Don's friend on and they had a spirit box set up, and he was listening to the spirit box, and a voice came through, and he's like, he looks genuine, he's like, Oh, and he gives them like a thumbs up, and they're like, Oh, did you recognize like, yeah, that was Don's voice. Like, he wasn't like scared or sad, but when he heard it, he had that like look in his eye where he's like, Oh shit, that's kind of recognition, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:37

And I was off because Zach was Zach was trying to like get the voices to talk to him, and nothing would happen. And as soon as like Don's friend did something started talking, then yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 44:50

So that that piece I was like, all right, that's kind of cool.

SPEAKER_02 44:52

Um but I I will I will say I I was thinking about it just in the sense of like if the like we were ever to do something like this, because like you know, the whole point is that you want to hear something and you want to believe something when you go, and you want to you know make some sort of sense of the the things you can't explain, right? And like I feel like as much as we make fun of like Zach Baggins and like the other like ghost adventure people that like are out there, um, I feel like we'd be doing the same shit, like any noise like totally reacting. Oh, yeah, you're in that atmosphere. Want to hear something.

SPEAKER_03 45:29

We already have done something our first hundred episodes were all about be being like, let's make this seem real and the fucking very end of the episode, let's just rip the fucking towel out from anything. Like that's our that's our whole shtick. So yeah, real or fake, right? Uh same shit, just different venue. Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 45:50

I I enjoyed it though. I I thought this would be a fun little little episode to talk about because of the spooky season here. Oh, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:56

Yeah, we're doing we're doing a little bit of a buffer this week. Um, you'll see why next week. For for those of yeah, you'll see why next week. Obviously, um this is gonna come out late October for those of you you know listening new and not live, um, which leaves us with one last episode in our our repertoire for Halloween, which is gonna be our hometown horrors. So look and be prepared for that. Um, those of you who are in Twitch or uh are live, definitely don't miss out in a couple weeks here when we record that.

SPEAKER_03 46:32

We have we have a very fun show planned. Also, a lot of you wrote the fuck in about some really creepy things. So we we are we are gonna have to set some time aside. Like this might be a long one episode. There's some good ones for sure. I can see two hours. So come seriously, come join us.

SPEAKER_02 46:54

It's gonna be a wild episode for sure.

SPEAKER_03 46:56

Yeah, yeah, it'll be good.

Fire, Laughter, And Spirit Box Moments

SPEAKER_01 46:57

Um on that note, I don't really have much else to add to this other than no, dude.

SPEAKER_03 47:03

This this is just a real place.

SPEAKER_02 47:05

Yeah, yeah. No, this is uh we're just bringing you some spooky, spooky little little delightful stories. I don't know, I don't know why delightful was what the word of choice delightful dependent on.

SPEAKER_03 47:18

It's because we're all weird ass people, Doug. And again, all you have to do is fucking uh register a ferry over to this goddamn island and you can go explore. It's not hard. It's super cheap. It's very easy to get to. So if you if anyone's doing true, yeah, if anyone's in in uh oh fuck, what's the town? Uh Mexico City, an hour south of Mexico City, and you are near uh was it Lake uh Sochiteal? I'm not even gonna try to pronounce it again. Sochi. I forget the last word. I think it's Sochitil. I could be wrong. I'm so sorry if I'm wrong. Either way, go if you are if you have a reason and a way of please go visit. It like it's full of culture, like it mainly culture, but holy shit full of man dirt and creepy S dolls. Yeah. Mandert, man girt. Ooh, there's probably a lot of mangird, actually. Um on the dolls.

SPEAKER_01 48:19

I would like to say well, when we leave, there'll be much more. Yeah. I would like to say look for us on all your spooky social medias, such as OnlyFans. OnlyFans. Uh you find us anywhere. Go look us up everywhere you can. Just look up Deludi. Deluty or TI. Deludi, or don't look under the internet, whatever social media platform you're on, or whatever platform you're on in general, we're probably there. You're using Oprah or Opera? Are you using Opera? Are you using Oprah? Opera GX. Fucking using Oprah. Oh, I would love an Opera GX sponsorship where we get our own like customers.

SPEAKER_02 48:54

That'd be sick.

SPEAKER_01 48:55

I don't even know what we do, but that'd be incredible. Um, Opera GX. I don't know how to do that.

SPEAKER_02 48:59

If any of you listening know how to get us just sponsors in general, I know that.

SPEAKER_03 49:04

I just don't think any of us have the time or will if it pays me enough to do that. We got plenty of time. Oh shit, okay. Um, yeah, I have four websites for you then. Oh yeah. Um four websites? Four. It's almost five websites.

SPEAKER_01 49:19

It's almost five.

SPEAKER_03 49:21

Which is the number of fingers you have on one hand, which means it's meant to be.

SPEAKER_01 49:25

Yeah. Anyway.

SPEAKER_02 49:27

Meant to crank that hog.

SPEAKER_01 49:29

Find us everywhere. Uh fuck you, Mike. Our email is uh dilulypod at gmail.com. No. Um I will say if you have a doll, I got some brats dolls over there uh for my little one. Not not that direction, that direction. Uh I might bring them to I might make an island full of brats dolls. You're bringing those to my house, aren't you? Maybe I'll bring an island full of brats dolls.

SPEAKER_02 49:51

And then I will You're getting into the realm of being creepy.

unknown 49:54

Good.

SPEAKER_01 49:54

And not in like a scary way. I'm gonna become a hermit in my basement and turn my basement into a basement full of brats dolls. Mike is gonna be a big one. I'm leaving my wife and my kid. Yeah, but just in the basement.

SPEAKER_03 50:06

And the shell will be made of dolls. Yeah. Jason, what do you want to say to the people? Fucking stay paranoid. Don't trust your dolls. Jesus shit, don't trust your dolls. They probably belong on an island with a hermit. Probably. So send them there, let them live peacefully, and they will stop haunting your fucking life. You asshole.

SPEAKER_02 50:26

Dug. God. Um yeah, slap those peans and beans together as per per usual. Um, but uh, yeah, if you uh doll dolls are creepy, and if you're if you're a doll and you're listening to this, fuck you. Fuck you.

SPEAKER_01 50:45

Couldn't I have said it better myself. Hi everybody, and especially dolls. Bye.