Don't Look Under the Internet
Don't Look Under the Internet
DLUTI 218 - Angel Engine
This week we venture over to TikTok to check out what all the kids have been talking about.
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SPEAKER_01:Yes. Um, but yeah, welcome everybody. Um just want to do a real quick alluding housekeeping. Um not a whole lot to bring up, but a couple things I did I do want to touch on. Um first and foremost, um new member over at the the website um uh on the Patreon. Um we have uh we're gonna play name. Name? Name um it is Will. Oh hey Will. Hey Will uh bad I'm gonna go good.
SPEAKER_04:Really? Why?
SPEAKER_01:It's because I'm assuming Patreon works the same way as a lot of stuff where like you you you you have to pick your username and if it's already chosen they're like pick it ever one.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, you got just will. I got just will. I don't think that's how it works. I think you could your Patreon display name can be literally whatever you want it to be.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, damn. I'm still going for it because it's such a it's such a basic name. It's like if we had someone uh uh subscribe and it was like Hank. Hank I'm going for it because of the the silliness of the name in nature. Um good job, Will. But you guys say bad name, I say fine name. Um thank you, Will. And welcome, welcome, welcome to the family, the Deludi Stan family. Here are your passport.
SPEAKER_03:Change your name, Will.
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SPEAKER_03:Uh you just assume their uh their ethnicity or uh no, because they're part of Deludi Stan, so they're not American anymore.
SPEAKER_01:Delutistonian? What a person from Deluty Stan is.
SPEAKER_04:Just a lootist stands.
SPEAKER_01:So I know like uh electric vehicles have gotten very popular recently, and you know, they they typically have a relatively good uh, you know, mileage range on them. You know, they're not as good. I was always more on on board with like a hybrid engine, those seem to have been like peak fuel efficiency. What do you think the fuel efficiency is for for an angel engine?
SPEAKER_04:Uh pretty damn good. That's kind of the whole thing, right?
SPEAKER_01:Right, yeah. Um infinitely good, maybe? Maybe. Or an infinitely bad. Uh we'll talk about it.
SPEAKER_04:Also, now I really just want to just do this entire episode about hybrid and electric vehicles and talk about the economics and what's happening in the automotive industry at the moment. But I can definitely say, so Yep.
SPEAKER_01:Nope, you can't because today we're talking today. We're talking about Angel Engine. Um, this is one of the pleasant times that Matt was Angle Angle Fuck Angle and Demon.
SPEAKER_05:Angle.
SPEAKER_01:Um this is one of the pleasant times that Matt has brought a topic to us to do.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. I did it. I said, hey, we should look at this.
SPEAKER_01:So when when you when if you don't like this episode, you know who to blame. Um so yeah, we were talking about Angel Engine. Matt brought it to our attention. I thought it was pretty cool. Um I love the concept behind it, that's for sure.
SPEAKER_04:Um Should we say what it is? It's it's a it's a TikTok analog horror, basically.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a TikTok analog horror. Isn't it Instagram?
SPEAKER_04:No, the main account is a TikTok account. The Instagram reposts everything, but the the primary account is the TikTok account.
SPEAKER_01:Um so everything every episode is like pretty short. Each one is like a minute at most, which is fantastic. Love to see it. Um a good short form. Um and we figured fuck it, it seemed interesting. Let's let's chat about that bad boy. So I say we get into it. Where do we start? If not the beginning.
SPEAKER_03:I wish I'm so glad my fucking mic didn't pick it up, but my cat is just over here fucking doing the like just right next to me, just fucking barfed all over the carpet. Well, you got a podcast to do, Mr.
SPEAKER_07:Can't clean that up.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's just gonna sit. That's fine. It'll be easier to clean up that way. Um, but you're right, m Michael. Uh starting at the beginning is usually where one would start when they want to explain the entirety of a series that is fairly new. So uh that being said, uh let me do a small overview of this. Um uh besides uh it you know being the TikTok and like short form and whatnot. Um longer I'm sorry, my cat was puking, so I I don't know if you mentioned this, but uh this is entirely AI generated. We did not mention it.
SPEAKER_01:I didn't. It's also pretty obvious because the guy's tag is unearthly.ai. So it you can't.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, the Instagram is unearthly.ai. I think the the TikTok is we should probably not say the wrong thing. It's something hub.
SPEAKER_03:Uh while you look it up, I will say this is going to be very divisive for a lot of people. Um, some people may hate it, some people may like it. Um, it just kind of depends on where you're at and what your your opinion is, but our job is to cover stuff like this, and that's why we're doing it. Um, I can't say I super uh I don't know, I can't really speak to the fact that they're not using um like an actual artist to make their videos.
SPEAKER_04:Some of the later ones have been done by actual artists. Once this took off a little bit, uh some artists stepped in and have done some of the work on the more recent episodes, but it is still predominantly AI.
SPEAKER_01:I I will note my stance on AI is thus I don't mind it. If you if you're a uh if you if you have an idea for a story and you're like me, where you have no artistic talent in your in a single bone in your body, and you have no idea how to even begin the process of creating something, you just have a fun idea and story that you want to tell. I don't mind if you use AI. If you're down on your luck and it's the only tool you have, use it. My big issue is when you have like Coca-Cola making an entire commercial that's bleepy. Big companies, you can pay people for that shit. If you don't have a single dollar to pay an artist to get you something of quality, I get it. I can't say that you know, I would I would much prefer it not be AI, but I f I get it. I'm not gonna be too upset about it.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I think um my my stance on AI is probably not gonna be popular with probably a lot of our audience. I don't really care. Like I I'm sort of of the mind that Mike is. I'm I'm a lot more accepting of it than I think a lot of people are. Um I think I've seen some really cool stuff made with AI, and like you said, it's a really good tool for people who don't have the means to bring their ideas to life. Um, but yeah, that's that's where I draw an issue with it is wh when you've made something with AI that you very much had the means to do it otherwise, and it negatively impacted the outcome. That's sucks. Why? Yeah, it's just the cutting corners and making a shitty thing, like the new McDonald's ad. That sucks. That sucks.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I will say I'm I am mostly of the same mindset, um, but I will I will actually give my opinion on this later because I want to go through some of the stuff before I explain my stance on this whole thing. Um, but that being said, uh the reason I wanted to mention it in the first place is that it's all AI, is because I'm going to probably not spend a whole lot of time being like this is what you're seeing while you're doing it. I will explain.
SPEAKER_04:I'm mostly seeing the same thing. I mean, it's gen or it's generally just still images.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah. Um, so I will for the most I will explain a little bit, obviously, of what you're seeing, but um, I'm not gonna dive deep into it. Um, so that that's really it. Um, but I guess let's start from the beginning. Um the first uh video is called How to Cage an Angel. And you immediately see cage, cage, yeah.
SPEAKER_07:You're gonna get a lot of things.
SPEAKER_03:The thing is genuinely creepy when it talks. I won't say that. Like Yeah, it's it's creepy the first couple of times for the case. Oh fuck, we lost Tori!
SPEAKER_01:No, Tori, come back, we hate AI, it's okay.
SPEAKER_03:Um they left before we started talking about AI. It's fine. Um, we did gain a Craig, but he also left. Damn. Tori's on the tour. Anyways. Uh so that being said, um, the first video is called How to Cage an Angel. Um, you get a video of a very creepy looking uh thing saying uh basically going, How to cage an angel with the Lavender Town music in the background. That's yeah, which is also another another thing I'll go over later. Um yeah, so yeah, you hear it's like a really shittily chopped version of the the lavender town music over every of these fucking videos. Um, but anyways, so they're giving you steps on how to cage an angel. And they say step one, exploit planets resources, step two, exterminate wildlife. Step three, watch species fall into disarray. Step four, you're now on the brink of extinction. And then it cuts with him just going, pray, pray, pray, and then it says step five, watch divine messengers send to your world. Step six, they want to help you use their uh use their kindness, and then it says, strap them into angel engine, and then it says siphon their energy. Step eight, return planet to former glory, and that's where it ends. These videos are about like he's uh like Mike said, about a minute and a half long at most. Um, and that's because half of the time is spent them saying one sentence.
SPEAKER_04:Um that's gonna be a trend.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna get a lot of slow angel talk.
SPEAKER_04:Um can we at least talk about what the aesthetic is though?
SPEAKER_03:Like it's uh yeah, I think it's a boiled one.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I think like this I think that's why this is so popular. The the we didn't really say that either. This is incredibly popular. It's like it's like a 1.2 million followers on TikTok or something crazy.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah. This is this is very, very, very popular. Um it's the the aesthetic is like almost like an anime, like uh is how I would describe it. They use a lot of like this very like anime looking kind of artwork. Um, but and on top of that, the the like angel that you see in this first video is um looks very it's got a very uh like boiled one feel to it, where it's like very like rough edges, uh a lot of like dark black, like they're usually a lot of black shimmigami vibes from Death Note.
SPEAKER_04:It's it's a cross sure it's a cross between early 90s anime and like super low budget point and click adventure 90s video game graphics.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah. And probably pulling up the videos and shit. Actually, uh do you have the videos up? Yeah, I got it. Okay. I don't I didn't actually hop into Twitch, but yeah, yeah. If you're watching, you'll you'll see and you'll kind of understand. But um, so that was the first video. Second video is called How to Find an Angel Engine. Um, and we get a different creepy guy talking, um, very slow like the first video, but explaining the steps on getting an angel engine. So step one, journey to the holy land. And this is like you you get some of that like 90s, early 90s anime feeling um from this part. But uh step two, it says search desolate terrain for the great thorns. Um step three, step into burial site, and then step four, it's just goes, look upon me, look upon me, look upon me, release me. Your wage will be plentiful. So this is the part where I was like, Okay, they're asking us to release them. Where are we where are we going from here? So uh we go to our third video called He is Coming. Um, the guy from the first and the second video are actually like talking back and forth, and they're basically saying, Do not let him in, do not be deceived. He is not your friend, he has no friends, be not afraid. He comes to deceive, to lead you astray, he will be here soon. And then it says, Find me, find me, find me, and I will help you. So basically, we can kind of infer right now that these two things uh might be angels themselves, um, and that they need our help. Uh it it's still a little unclear. Um uh the fourth video is called Listen to Me. And it says we see a trapped uh angel, um like kind of uh and a scientist, um, and they're like talking about the angel. Um, and he's like, There's no energy limit that could power the world for millennium to come, and and it kind of like cuts out, and then we get this EMS broadcast or EAS broadcast, um, and it's like the president uh speaking to us, and sometimes like while they're speaking, like this big black hole comes in like their face, and they start saying things like they are not from Earth, your your cities will fall, the sky will burn. Um, and it basically is like it seems like the angels are speaking through the president like in this broadcast while the president is talking, like they're it's just kind of like a normal broadcast that you beating. Um but uh yeah, it's pretty creepy. Um really short, as all of these are. And then the angel comes phase and says, Now you fucked up. He just like lifts his nuts out of his face, and he's like, Ha ha got him. Um so yeah, fifth video is called the broadcast. Um the video the guy from the the thing from video one says you are in danger. Sorry, sorry, no. He goes, You are in danger.
SPEAKER_01:Um Malcolm in the Middle, the kid in the wheelchair. What's his name? Oh my god, Stevie or whatever.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, something like that. Um they have a message from the Gulf of Time, um, which is actually the Gulf of America. Yeah, we should be that was renamed. We can't recognize uh the America of Time, sorry. Um yeah, he says uh that they don't have the means to restrain him and that he will destroy you and to not let him in. Um and then we cut to what we are told is the Tower of Babel in an in like a news report, and they are calling it the second tower of Babel. Um and the news reporter is like, Well, this spell doom for humanity or put us into the future. Um the Tower of Babel houses 200.
SPEAKER_04:The first one didn't go so well. Did they not realize that?
SPEAKER_03:Uh yeah, and this is this is where they're testing the angel engine, and it's going to solve all of our energy problems and create uh can create artificial miracles. And the lead scientist, his name is Joff or Jeff Ernst Ernstman. Gioff.
SPEAKER_01:Um sometimes it's Jeff Ernstman, sometimes it's Ernst Mann. The AI voice can't make a big thing.
SPEAKER_04:Also, sometimes it's Tower of Babel, and sometimes it's Tower of Babel.
SPEAKER_03:Babel! Yeah, Babel. Um, yeah. There's there's actually some really funny parts that had me cracking up, like just because like the AI voice is like I don't know, like I don't know how it determines how to pronounce something, but it's just like there's one we'll get to it.
SPEAKER_01:There's there's one we'll get to it when like someone's doing a news report and they're like, oh, don't touch that camera or whatever. It's just like, hey, stop that.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, the one where the angel puts the show puts its hands on the guy's shoulder, and it's it's actually supposed to be super dramatic. And he's just like, oh, it's not supposed to do that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it shouldn't be doing that. Yeah, um, but yeah, so we learn about Tower of Babel, the second Tower of Babel. Um, and this is where all the testing for the angel engine and all that shit is going on. Um, so that's an interesting new thing that they're doing. Um it's pretty neat. Uh episode six is called How to Survive in the Holy Land. And uh as you may assume, just like most of the videos so far, they're going to give you the steps on how to do this, okay? Step one put it in your own butt. Um no, so it's it says uh pack enough supplies.
SPEAKER_02:Really pack it in. Really, really, really get it in there all the way in there. Copious amounts of lube as far in there as you can. Um step one. Acquire baby oil and uh 50 gallon drum.
SPEAKER_03:Um where the fuck are you?
SPEAKER_02:How to throw your ditty how to throw your own freak off.
SPEAKER_03:I like that story better, I think. Anyways, so alright, step one, pack enough supplies, there won't be any. Ominous. Step two, don't let the forgotten find you. They don't take kindly to foreigners. Alright. So we've got some fucking angel racist.
SPEAKER_07:Don't like how you say that.
SPEAKER_03:Um step three, do not look at the sky, your eyes they will melt. And then it cuts and he goes, He is here, cover eyes and ears, do not stop, he will catch you. Um that sounded more like a robot, so I apologize. But um, it shows like this new face for a fraction of a second. Um when he says that this next part, and it says, I see you, um, and you kind of get like a almost like a different voice for a fraction of a second. And then it says, Do not listen, do not believe the deceiver. He cannot harm your soul. He would never allow it. Um yeah, so that is episode six. Uh I guess The Girl is in the water is
SPEAKER_04:Like suspiciously be looking like Taylor Swift, I'm not gonna lie.
SPEAKER_03:ChatGPT, please put Taylor Swift in here. Um, okay, so the next video is fucking I I don't I don't I don't understand why they did this, but they just made an AI slop video to the boots poem Rudyard Kipling, and it is awful, it is stupid, and it makes no sense to the story. There's no reason for it to be in here, and I think it's dumb that they did this. Um, so I'm gonna move on to the next video. Um yeah, I don't know. Go ahead. What were you gonna say?
SPEAKER_04:Well, I think later well they do redo this. I think it becomes more significant when they redo it, maybe. I think there is a point.
SPEAKER_03:I think it's I think it's really, really dumb because they not only don't like give any context to the fact that they're using this poem or who did it or who read it, there's no credit for it, and it feels like they just basically the time that this video came out, 28 years later, was coming out, and that noise was popular, and I think they just were like, I'm gonna use this for my thing.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, and they do some things where it's like this is trending on TikTok, I'm gonna cash in on it. There are a lot of things in here that feel like, oh, I figured out how to make this very specific aesthetic with these AI tools and some editing, and they just did something with it just because they thought it would be a cool thing to do, which I think is fine, but it is just kind of thrown in the middle of a thing that is like this really elaborate world building, and it it there is a big disconnect there. I yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and like I will say so far, I've I you know what we've what I've covered so far. I I really like where everything is going and I like the general direction of how things are feeling, even though it's like AI made and stuff.
SPEAKER_04:The aesthetic slap, it does, it's super creepy, and it I like it a lot.
SPEAKER_03:This video really took me out of it though. I thought it was really poor in poor taste. Um like especially if you're going to like mainly use AI for things. I think it was I think it could have been avoided, especially in the political climate. I think uh there's a I I don't know if it's I don't know if that's the right word. I think it's I think it was stupid to not credit anything about it and act like this was like the thing that they made.
SPEAKER_04:That it was just a random thing that or yeah, just throwing it up there.
SPEAKER_03:It's just yeah, I I don't I don't I don't I'm not trying to be like super super like skeptical of it or anything, but I just I feel like it didn't make sense to me. Like I was like enjoying what was happening, and then that's like this video came up and I was like I was like, what does this have to do with anything? But I again I feel I didn't make it, so I don't know. Um but video eight um is I love you, and we see the trapped angel, which we don't have a name for yet, and they say I love you. This was the face that we saw on the uh this two videos ago that I was like, Yeah, we get this new face, and then the doctor says it's hyper intelligent, um, and then it cuts back to the angel and it says, Save me, and it basically rarely speaks, and then it uh we're told that it answers to Uriel. And if you don't know who Uriel is, it's there's a few iterations of them in different like religious texts, but mainly you probably know them as an archangel. Um, and then it says, Don't hurt me. Um, and we see a dead worker, and basically the doctor is like, Yeah, we're gonna put this guy in the engine, and we're gonna basically uh return him back to life in a couple seconds here. Um and as soon as they like turn the engine on, uh, you can tell that the angel is like in a bunch of pain, and then the boy is completely healed. Literally, this this thing, this this boy looked fully dead, was just super dead, uh, came back to life, and uh they they've completely healed this boy now from the angel engine, which I assume is part of their like miracle uh like faux miracle thing that they're trying to do.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I think this is a good time to like just give a very brief synopsis of basically what is happening here, which is yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um so real quick, it flashes angelengine initiative.org on the sign, and that's the end of this episode. But yeah, no, perfect time to kind of recap what is happening, if you want.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, so basically what we've got going on here is this doctor, Mr. Ernstman, has Ernstman has taken this angel that has descended to Earth and hooked it up to a bunch of tubes and shit, and is like, hey, we can use this thing to power shit because it has an infinite amount of energy, and it seems to be that the powering either is causes excruciating pain to this angel or is actually generated by the pain. Like the more pain you put these things in, the more energy it creates. And the not only can you that be used to power things, it seems like we can actually like perform miracles with that heavenly energy, which is what they seem to be doing with this poor individual here, like fucking him up real bad and then dunking him in this thing and sticking some wires on him and regenerating his lifeless body.
SPEAKER_01:OSHA is about to have a bad tie because if you can just heal all wounds and bring the dead back to life, then who cares about workplace uh safety, you know? Yeah, hell yeah. You got an angel engine at work?
SPEAKER_03:Alright, well, fuck OSHA. Yeah, we're good to go. And then four, I don't care.
SPEAKER_04:The other things that we should reiterate are like there's one individual who appears to be spreading or at least guiding the viewer along and explaining certain things about how this process works. Um, we'll learn more about that person later. And then yeah, we got Uriel, the angel that's actually been held captive, and then the Tower of Babel 2, electric boogaloo, yeah, which is where all of this stuff is taking place.
SPEAKER_01:Fantastic stuff. I'm glad you guys are able to glean so much information from this because boy howdy, was it difficult for me to piece a lot of this stuff together?
SPEAKER_03:Uh I mean it it is a little uh I think the vision of everything is a little weird, yeah, for sure. Um, and there's not a whole lot. It is a little it is a little jarring sometimes. I'm not sure if that's the right word or not, but they're if you watch it all consecutively, it is hard to pick up on some things if you're not like like I watched most of the videos a couple times over just to like make sure I like was catching everything in them. Um, because I kind of figured since it's AI, it's not like some of the other stuff we watch where you're like, oh shit, at like 20 seconds they like flashed a something in there or something. Like this is all pretty cut and dry.
SPEAKER_04:It's very difficult to tell at times what small details are intentional and what is just like an artifact of the being AI, and it's like, is this actually important? There are times too when it's like if you until you really figure out who the main characters are here, there are times when the faces look different enough where you're like, is that the same person?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah, until we get a couple of the names. I was like, what?
SPEAKER_01:Well, maybe maybe as we go and I go into mine by topics and the other one uh that I'm doing. Oh, I don't think we said anything. Yeah, Jason's not here.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:By the way, his car his car broke down, and I'm going to be covering his parts uh later. He was nice enough to put some notes down for me. Um, so I'm gonna be going off his notes, so apologies if I uh don't explain something all that well or uh anything like that. Um I I watched his portions a couple times, but I didn't write anything down because I saw he already did, so I'm just going off his notes in my memory. Uh but that's a later problem. Um so we're going into episode nine here. This one's the interview. Um, and we start off with Uriel.
SPEAKER_04:Same, same.
SPEAKER_01:And Uriel ain't looking too good, dog. Let me just say. Like it looks like he's kind of decaying away. Like half his face is kind of just like a bloody skull, like skeleton and shit. I I I think it looks really cool. Um, I love when a story gets like horrifically religious, you know what I mean? I I like that concept, it's I think it's very interesting to me. Um but um we see you were real ain't doing so good. Uh we then cut to a broadcast of something called the Barry Donovan show, hosting Barry Donovan. And uh he seems to be a talk show host who is interviewing uh Jeff Ernstman. Um and basically the interview goes where Jeff claims that the angel isn't being tortured as a bunch of people are protesting and complaining about, because the angel could leave whenever it wants, but it chooses to stay. Not at all what an abuser says to people at all. Um he then basically says, uh, like, I'm the shit, I'm super smart, you all don't know what you're talking about, but me, I do. This guy's pulling an Elon Musk straight up. Um and he's like, Bet I got a new invention. It's coming out next week.
SPEAKER_04:This guy's actually inventing stuff or doing stuff.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, right? Not just being a Nazi. I'm sorry, of course. I think that's a slur.
SPEAKER_04:What? Let's move on.
SPEAKER_01:Um, but yeah, so uh Jeff's basically like I'm super cool and super smart and be on the lookout next week. Uh some fun shit's coming. Uh video 10. It's a goddess coming. So we find out. Uh Jeff is like going about his business, and then uh he just straight up gets shot by someone in a yellow raincoat who's like speaking some tongues at him. Um we get visuals of what looks like a faceless thing like eating Jeff. Like it's got him like wrapped up in its hands, it's like holding him, it's like devouring him. Um we then get an announcement from a Stephen Ecclebloom, who is the spokesperson for the Tower of Babel. Um, and we find out that Jeff died from his uh his gunshot wounds. Uh, and we also have incarcerated the rain the yellow rain jacket killer.
SPEAKER_04:Um now the thing here that was immediate my immediate question, which uh I feel like a lot of other people are gonna be asking, is don't they have the ability to use this angel engine thing to just bring people back to life?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so does murder is that still an issue? Are you dealing with the other thing?
SPEAKER_04:They're saying he's dead. Wouldn't the first thing they would have done been just to like oh yeah connect him to this thing and just bring him back?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I don't know. Well we'll get there. We'll get there maybe. Who's to say? Uh because video 11 is called He Is Risen. I wonder. I wonder what that could be him risen.
SPEAKER_03:Him be risen.
SPEAKER_01:We get the angel, uh uh the the weird, like purpley creepy one, uh making claims stating he is risen and death is no longer and whatnot. Um Steven I think that one's supposed to be Uriel.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, see that's that's where some of this gets gets weird, but yeah, I think the blonde hair indicates that this is Uriel. Because the at this point in the story, the only angel that is caged is Uriel. That's the only thing they have hooked up to this thing at the moment.
SPEAKER_01:That's that's fair, I suppose. Um but uh but Uriel's just not looking so hot in general. That boy needs some help. Um but then we get uh we get a cut over to Mr. Ecclebloom again, Steven, and he lets us all know that you know, since Jesus beat Death, Jeff will do, dude. Yeah, this too shall pass, bro. Like it's fine. Jeff will rise, bro. Um it turns out Steve just full blown is just like, you know, I'm gonna be honest with you all. Um we cannot figure out how to work Jeff's new invention, so we need him back. Happy Easter. Like he just drops that bomb, he's like, Yeah, none of us know this thing works. Um it's also happy Easter. Bye. Like I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:We don't know how this thing works, but we're gonna use it to bring him back.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, they're so he can tell us it works. I think I think Mike missed us uh a thing about Jeff making an announcement that he had this like big thing that he was gonna announce soon, and then he gets shot. So oh did you okay. I I'm just I thought so, but that's the that's the invention that they don't know how to work. Apparently, they know how to work the angel bath, whatever you want to call it. Angel bath.
SPEAKER_01:The angel sauna. I'll fucking know, dude. Um uh video 12 is free yourself from the flesh. We get these weird visuals of Jeff looking all like I guess demonic would be the word. That's what I'm going with. He he's looking demented, he's looking freaky. Um, there's a lot of just like flashy imagery going on with him not doing good. Um you thought I'd miss my reveal? Ha ha ha. Then we get a big old reveal of Jeff being at the reveal of his new invention, where the AI gives a very good line read of ha ha ha. You thought I'd miss the reveal of my new invention?
SPEAKER_04:Um the thing is like the bad AI voice kind of lends into the like 90s anime aesthetic of it all, though. So it is kind of it's kind of it kind of comes across at times as just a bad dub.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I'm here for it sometimes. Um what is this new invention you say? It's a it's an artificial angel. Its name is Barishel, or however you pronounce it.
SPEAKER_03:Um I I don't know. I was saying it as like Barrachial.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, Barracula is how I would treat it. Barracula. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Barracula um and uh he's like, we don't need an angel anymore. Like he's he fly out, just like, we don't need it. I got this artificial one. Um we then smoke a made one, bro. Yeah, we then and this thing is kind of fucked up looking too. It's like tell everyone your name, and he's like, oh Right, like very creepy. Um we then cut to a newscast of a reporter, of a report of um a Jensen Goldstein, who is the guy that shot Jeff earlier. Um, also, um, he shot Jeff three times. I think that's uh I think that's a reference as well. Um because the number three is that's a big thing in the Bible.
SPEAKER_04:The Holy Trinity. There's the Holy Trinity it's the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's the Holy Trinity. Apparently, demons like they do things in threes, like they knock three times, they'll leave three scratches on you, things like that. The the mark of the beast is three sixes. They do do that. Um so threes are just pretty prominent. Um, but it turns out that Jess Jensen Goldstein killed himself in in prison.
SPEAKER_03:No, don't kill yourself, you're too hot.
SPEAKER_01:Um video 13 is called How to Awaken Your Angel Engine. Guess who we got in all his uh his his speechy goodness? We get the guy that's just like, Oh, do we have a name for this thing ever?
SPEAKER_04:I think we should just I mean what I don't know if it's ever explicitly stated what this thing's name is. I mean it it is revealed what this thing is later in the lore. But I think it like the the community just calls it the messenger.
SPEAKER_03:The messenger. What's the second one? What's the second what? So there's the one in the first video and there's the one in the second video. Is that the same thing?
SPEAKER_01:So I think it is, but it's just AI uh changing what it looks like.
SPEAKER_03:I'm sorry to derail a little bit. But like if you look at the very first video and then you watch the second video, is it supposed to be the same thing? I think so. I think it's just different options.
SPEAKER_04:I I believe this is these are the same thing, yes. Alright, well. Alright.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, the face so the face be kind of looking like something that comes back later, but I don't think it is. There's there's confusion about this. And like so if you go look at synopsis of this on like YouTube or whatever, there are small details that people do not agree on.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Um, but I do believe that these are the same, those are one and the same. I think any situation where you've got just an angel looking at the screen, giving you instructions.
SPEAKER_03:Same guy.
SPEAKER_04:Is the same is the message.
SPEAKER_03:Can you go to video can you just play video three real quick? Because I thought this was two different things talking to each other.
SPEAKER_04:Play video three.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, part three. This is awesome for audio listeners.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_03:So But like if you it it's it you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it does look different, but I I believe because of something that happens later, that this is I thought it was two talking to each other, or at least two talking to us.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know. That that changes a lot in my mind now. Anyways, on derail, sorry.
SPEAKER_01:I think again, something else we have to keep in mind is for all we know, the AI just the guy was just like, G get that guy back, but make him look creepier, and the AI just edited it and made it look different.
SPEAKER_04:Right. Well, so that's the thing, that's the thing, right? Is these are kind of old, so like now there's it's kind of difficult to reproduce the same thing multiple times with AI, like in the exactly the same way. There the some of the newer models are pretty good at it, but yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, what this these first videos are like nine to eleven months old or something.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, AI moves fast, so um so 9-11 drop. How do you how do you awaken your angel engine again? So we find out the the steps for awakening an angel engine. First, build a mainframe, it's that easy. Why don't you just do it? Step two prepare yourself for what is about to commence. Hucker that butthole, you know, get it primed and ready. Step three bleed, bleed bleed a whole lot, bleed a lot, bleed, do that. And there you go. Um you awaken that machine's hunger. Uh that's what he says. Uh, we then cut to Jeff and he's at an interview, and it looks like he's going through some shit. He's like going through some PTSD, it looks like he's just sitting in that chair, like it's hitting him hard, whatever's hitting him. And um the the talk show guy.
SPEAKER_04:I shouldn't have taken that second out of.
SPEAKER_01:The talk show guy who I'm assuming is Barry. It doesn't really say, but it's it's got the same that's the only talk show guy we've heard of so far. Um but he's like, so Jeff, how was it being dead? And just like, fuck you. Fuck you, turn the fucking camera off. Turn the fucking camera off. And Barry's just like, Bro, bro, be cool. We're cool.
SPEAKER_04:You know we're live, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and he's just like, What's wrong? And then he's like, Turn off the camera, turn off the fucking camera, and um, and he's like, Yeah, and then the whole time Barry is kind of like, no, what? But it's supposed to be like, Hey, what are you doing? But the AI is just like, Hey, stop that. Um that, yeah, and so we then cut to uh or not cut, but we then see the artificial angel like come into frame, and it looks like he kind of turns off the camera.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, Barracula's like, we're done here.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, Baracul's like, he's he's my client doesn't want to speak to you. Yeah, he's called the spin team right now. He's like, spin it, how do we do this? Cut the cut the the show. Um video four is called Babylon Has a Fallen. Uh we start off with some weird like claymation style stuff of a person asking Jeff to join them in a paradise. Um things get all fucky. Uh specifically, this person gets all fucky and like melty, I guess, looking. Turns into meltman from Action League now.
SPEAKER_03:Hell yeah, Koblam reference. Let's go.
SPEAKER_01:And uh Jeff then starts looking all corrupted himself. Um, he starts looking more less and less human, I would say. Um, we cut to another interview where Jeff says to Steven that no one can help him or anyone anymore. His eternal rest is no more, his mortal wound spreads. Babylon has fallen.
SPEAKER_05:Now I am.
SPEAKER_01:Then we cut to the angels, and they're talking to a woman named Rachel, and I didn't like this part, it was very weird. Rachel. Um they're like, oh, Rachel is sad, she's weeping for her children, and just shit like that. And she's like, she they they mentioned that she refused to be comforted for her kids because they were no more. Someone then walks up to the angel, and we only see the back of the person. I don't know who this is supposed to be. I um this is the back of the person. This is the same thing.
SPEAKER_04:It's the same guy from the from earlier Doug's.
SPEAKER_03:Yes. From Doug's like the adventurer, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:He he's the hero of the story. And um he shows up a little bit more later, but basically.
SPEAKER_01:I'm not gonna lie, at this point, so yeah, it's we see the back of them. It's a it's like a person with blonde hair and a red cape, and the angel asked them if he he will end the angel's suffering. I thought at first, um at like first watch up until like later on, that this blonde person was supposed to be um Jeff. But the AI just kind of messed with everything because it would make sense before, where it's like, oh, you want to make your angel engine, you have to go through these trials and tribulations. It's like Jeff did all that to get the angel engine, you know what I mean? That was where my thought process was going for a bit there.
SPEAKER_03:Um man, there's there's a lot, there's a lot to this story. So for those listening, because right now we're debating things and we don't have a clear idea, like we will eventually, obviously. But Rachel, big name. Remember, Rachel, and in their suffering is another like reoccurring thing you're gonna see through this. Keep that in mind too. I'm not gonna go into it all right now because I want Mike to go through his videos, but like just things to think about while you're listening to what we're saying. Um because Rachel will come up later. Rachel.
unknown:Rachel.
SPEAKER_01:Uh video 15 is called Angel Corpse. Or not corpse as in like a dead body, but C-O-R-P-S. Um we start with seeing this new like angel-like being. Core I guess, yeah. I I guess you do say core. Um you see this new like angelic kind of entity, and it belongs to the angel core.
SPEAKER_04:Um and is it core or corpse?
SPEAKER_01:I think it's corpse. I think Doug is right though. I think it's is pronounced core.
SPEAKER_03:I think C O R P S is core.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because you have you have like the army core. I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_03:I I'm I'm not actually sure on that. So please correct me if you're marine core, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:That makes sense, I guess.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Um, to try to describe what this thing looks like, think like creepy buff RoboCop, kind of, just without the helmet part, and it's just like a bald head. That's that's the best way I can describe this thing. Ned Flanders?
SPEAKER_04:It's it's some very, very early 90s anime shit. It's it's got it's got like even a big old mech like yeah vibes.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Um, but this thing is like propped up and it's asked how bad its pain is from one to ten. And it's like ten. I felt kind of bad for this thing.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and then and then he's just like good.
SPEAKER_01:It's just like good. Great. He's like, alright, great. So this one's ready. Um telling you, the angel racists are full force in this. Yep. Turns out this quote unquote new angel is a soldier for from the Tower of Babel. Um Russell, this newscaster that we are introduced to, interviews uh Steve, Steven, who we've met before. Um Steven again is like the spokesperson for the Tower of Babel, Babel, and uh the soul as they're talking to each other, as they're talking to each other. This happens a lot throughout the series, which I kind of appreciate a little bit. As they're talking to each other, the soldier's behind them, he's just like, Oh. And that happens pretty frequently. Like two people be talking, and like there'll be like an angel behind them or someone who'll be like, help me, like, get me out of here. Like, and they just ignore it, they just completely ignore it every time. The only time they don't is this time he goes, Help, and Russell's just like, What? And the guy's just like no, don't worry about it, it just does that sometimes.
SPEAKER_04:What's baffling to me is like there are there are moments where like people start like being like, Maybe we shouldn't be letting these people do this, and it's like astonishing to me that it really takes that long, but this long, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um, so it turns out that uh these soldiers are so basically they're supposed to help with smaller problems that the main angel engine is too preoccupied to solve.
SPEAKER_03:So it's the most portable angel engines, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:They're portable angel engines. They you drop them in, they're like, oh man, I spilled my milk, and it's like wham, it's not spilled anymore. Off I go. Yeah, it's it's Iron Man's Iron Fleet.
SPEAKER_04:The real important thing here is that these are totally artificial, they are not angels in and of themselves. They're like Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, the big the big thing is that Ernstman was able to make artificial angels, like clearly.
SPEAKER_01:So as uh Russell, as Russell, clearly, as Russell and Steven are talking, the soldier thing like grabs Russell's shoulder. He's like, What's it doing? The guy's just like it's not supposed to do that. What's going on? And then Russell's arm looks like it like kind of begins to like rot away or something. You just hear Russell like screaming a little bit, and the again the AI is is doing great here when it comes to line reads because you just hear like the the interview guy is just like that's not supposed to happen, like and just little things like that. Um stop things aren't going so good for old Russell. Um video 16. It's called Justice for Russell. Turns out something something happened to Russell. Uh he died. We have a news broadcast and they're just like they they rustled as Jimmy's. He done did a die. Um Jimmy's or Russell. We then also we then figure out that there have been protests at the G. There have been protests at the G20 summit, um, and they are going bonkers. Uh, you have countries that are concerned about the ownership of these uh of not only just the angel but the angel core. And um you have like multiple countries getting in like essentially fist fights about this this thing. Um Italy, where the G20 summit summit is being held, um, is like I have a solution. Let's call in these same angel cores to be security for the summit, you know, the ones that we're just fighting about and we're complaining about, and have them play fucking bodyguard. Yeah. Um this upsets a lot of people, and the hashtag justice for Russell starts gaining traction. Uh, because people are like, hey, that thing just killed a guy, and you're just gonna have it be security at like the most important fucking uh political stage ever, but that's okay.
SPEAKER_04:This is baffling to me that people are up in arms about the it killing Russell. Are they angry at the angel or are they angry at the people for not bringing it back? No, the people for for constructing this thing that killed him. Because it's like if if a zoo cages a wild bear and the bear is like, help me, fucking help me, I'm in pain, and then the bear eats its handler, are people gonna get mad at the bear?
SPEAKER_01:It's shamu. These things are shamu.
SPEAKER_04:I guess.
SPEAKER_01:Um yeah, that's uh and why did they just bring Russell back from from dead?
SPEAKER_04:Also that's death, you know?
SPEAKER_01:Um, but this is what I got a little confused as what happened next. So we see the um the angel corps playing security, and there's there's like one particular that we focus in on, and you can hear like protests and like uh things going around, and the angel's like, please stay back, don't come closer, all that stuff. And one protester seems to come up to the angel with some device, it looks like a slow cooker. I'm assuming it's a bomb.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, like a pressure cover.
SPEAKER_01:I I assumed it was a yeah, I assumed it was a bomb because afterwards you get this like pan out, and it's just you just hear like the sounds of people kind of screaming. Yeah, that is. So I assumed someone brought a bomb. Yeah. Um that is it for that episode. Now, what I'm gonna do, like I mentioned before, um I'm gonna cover Jason's parts. I did re-watch through his parts before we recorded and everything. Um, but again, I'm going to be going off of his uh his outline here. So if I miss anything, I might need you boys to kind of you know pop up on something if I forget about it. Um don't worry, I'll open his notes too. So uh episode 17 is you are the salt of the earth. Um, and basically what we have here is an angel, an angel being transposed over its current state. Ernstman clashes with an investor over contract fulfillment, and the angel begs for help, which is not true. Uh Ekman's uh Ernstman is pretty much just like, I'll have to do what you fucking say. Fuck the contracts. And the guy's like, no, you signed a deal. Um, he's basically like my dick's big. Go fuck yourself. Um we also find out that the um leader of the quote unquote yellow coats, we get this like again, this like weird interview type of thing with a um um this guy named Jamie. Um we get that in a second, but there's this guy named Jamie, he's talking about how awful the angel engine is, and that um it just should not exist. He's wearing a yellow raincoat, just like that um that Goldstein person that shot Jeff the first time. Um Jamie then appears as a guest on the uh the Barry Donovan talk show, where he explains that um he fullheartedly agrees with Jensen, the guy who shot uh uh Jeff. Um, and if everyone was willing to lay down their life for the truth, just like Jensen did, we wouldn't be in this pickle that we are now where we have these weird angels being tortured and created. Um, but he's basically like, no, Jensen did nothing wrong, like he's a hero. Um he's basically Luigi Mangioni in the sky. Um and uh there's now this, I guess, group of people in yellow raincoats. Um and that is gonna be it for that episode.
SPEAKER_07:Yellow raincoats.
SPEAKER_01:Uh the next one.
SPEAKER_07:Great.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I'm I'm realizing right now that Jason did not label the names of the videos. So I'm just gonna say video 18. How to survive no one. How to survive no one. The angel gives instructions on how to survive the coming horde. You don't run. Don the full armor of the Lord, and don't believe their threats. Anyone who drinks will thirst. Um we g uh. I'm so sorry, Doug. Did you do that? Or did are you?
SPEAKER_03:No, I have no idea what that is. I don't know what that is at all. Like what?
SPEAKER_04:I'm not looking at the notes.
SPEAKER_03:It's just some gobbledygook.
SPEAKER_01:It's just some gobbledygook on his fucking thing.
SPEAKER_03:Just a bunch of like it's like he like smashed the keyboard with his face. Yeah, and then put that as a bullet point.
SPEAKER_01:But yeah, but anyway, um, yeah, it's that like angel thing talking to us, basically giving us instructions and how to survive what's about to occur.
SPEAKER_04:Um so then um we get this like emergency broadcast that comes up, and the angel cores I'm realizing as we're going back through this, that the second thing that Doug was talking about might be Uriel.
SPEAKER_03:Is it? That's I'm so I couldn't I didn't know what it was because I swear in video three they're talking back and forth to each other.
SPEAKER_04:Because it's the thing that it is the thing that is hooked up to the angel engine.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_04:So yeah. But it doesn't look anything like the other pictures of Uriel at all.
SPEAKER_01:But I think it might be like a it might be like a story type of thing.
SPEAKER_03:That's honestly you think it's just AI.
SPEAKER_04:I don't think it's Uriel and the big the big the big thing that leads me to believe that is it says I love you. And that's like that's Uriel's whole shtick, is that despite the fact that he came down to Earth and they imprisoned him and turned him into this pain generator, he still has love for humanity.
SPEAKER_01:I was gonna say in episode uh in video nine, you do see Yuri like decaying away, so maybe this is like what he's gonna do.
SPEAKER_04:It's just a more decayed state of Uriel where his blonde hair is gone, I guess. Yeah, maybe that the blonde hair is really the only way that you can identify Uriel other than by putting using context clues.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Excuse me. Um but anyway, yeah, we get this alert system that the angel cores are now scouring the earth for Jeff Ernst Ernstin, um, who has gone missing. Um they they they say essentially things like, hey, these angels are gonna come to your home. Everyone's home. They're literally going everywhere. If they come to your house, just let them in. It basically saying, like, if you're don't have any if you're innocent and you have nothing to hide, then you should you'll be fine. But they're just like, yep, they're gonna be coming around your house and sounds very familiar. Uh deal with it. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_04:This isn't topical at all.
SPEAKER_01:Uh Jason then wrote here, the anchor is then shown to be marked. And I think he meant like the broadcaster, like the news anchor, but he did not reference that very well. So this is what I think what he means is his face. The face gets yeah, I think what he means is the face.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so there's a couple times.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, there's this thing that's been happening with the the people that are talking where they appear to be corrupted by something, I guess, because the black it's almost like something is puppeting them.
SPEAKER_03:It yeah, to at this point in time, it's pretty pretty like fair to say like maybe it's the like what we're quoting as the messenger right now, speaking through those holes, because every time that hole shows up, that that same voice, regardless of if the AI meant to do that or not, is what it sounds like.
SPEAKER_01:I was thinking, and uh Jason wrote it down too. I had the same thought, it's kind of like an antichrist figure.
SPEAKER_04:Uh that is a thing. Yeah, so that's a thing that I think we explain a little bit more here in just a second. Yeah, but don't do the next what is it, two videos.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I just think that's kind of um yeah, that's basically what's going on.
SPEAKER_03:I think I think that that's what they're shaping up to it being so to to be fair, to put this into a little bit more of retrospective, in the first couple of videos, there's a part where they're warning you about something and to not trust him. Yeah, and every time we we see the president shown on camera, we get that like don't trust him, he's not who they say they are, they're they're deceiving you, kind of thing. So, like I think at this point in time we can quite preferably say that whatever's controlling the president is a foe to the angels. I don't know. Matt, do you want to word that better, maybe?
SPEAKER_04:Uh yeah, so I think that like there's two forces there's two forces at work here. There's the angels, which are legitimately descended from heaven by God and have God's intentions in mind, and there's another unspecified force at work that is trying to stop the angels from being seen as the good guys, helpful.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. The other part is that we as humans are doing a bad thing.
SPEAKER_04:Well, that's that's kind of evident from the whole like the very beginning, is where the angels are trying to say, hey, let us out, we're in pain, this isn't right. And basically, Mr. Ernstman and his folks and whatever entity he's at work with are basically like they're they're working very hard to control the narrative on this. And spin team. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Anyhoodle. So yeah, um, the pres uh with video 19, the president um uh announces some shit. Like it it it uh he's like, oh, we're at war, they're chart, they're getting their nukes ready, and blah blah blah blah. I'm giving him Reagan uh voice because he's he his voice actually sounds like Bush, though. He sounds like the it does, it does, but I prefer thinking of this demon as Reagan.
SPEAKER_03:Um quick, who who are we seeing in this one? This one confused me a little bit. The president of the USA. The the first thing we see in this video is that is that's Baraki. Okay. I just that's what I figured. It's just a very Very new version of them. Yeah. That's Barack. That is all.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, we basically we see Big Tail with Baracole is usually the big white wings in the background. That's fair.
SPEAKER_01:We see um uh the president given his spiel, uh Barracul is behind him. The president's also got that weird like face thing going on a lot where it's like just a whole black hole in his face. Um uh a timer starts to tick down from 10 as we see scenes from other areas on Earth. Um it's at this point when you're like, yeah, the the president seems like he's in on something or possessed or you know, being swayed by something. Um he's got his like team behind him as we see. Um they kind of look cult-ish, like it's just a group of dead people behind him. Um one and he's just like, Do we have any women here? And uh yeah, and uh one of the officials whispers something into the presence here, and he's just like, ah, I gotta go. He's like, excuse me, I have an important meeting, and that's that for right now. Um you see a plane flying, um, these big bright lights, and then or this big bright light, um, and then humans like figures of like humans like melting away, essentially, which seems like a nuke was dropped um somewhere. Um and then you get an angel that says that they still love us. It's kinda queaby. But yeah. It looks like we have some sort of nuclear war going on now.
SPEAKER_04:War were declared.
SPEAKER_01:War were declared with Venezuela.
SPEAKER_00:It's George.
SPEAKER_01:It's been a minute since George Zowie himself has come into the studio.
SPEAKER_04:Um Dr. Fartbutt.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, or Dr. Marcus Fartbutt. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um, so he's getting his PhD in fart butting.
SPEAKER_01:Matt's gonna take over because uh Wowie Zowie. Well, some things were bungled.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it's fine. So the next video that's of relevance is Angel Engine Part 20. This one's called You Knew. And basically, there's just a bunch of fucked up visualization of Jeff and the Messenger and Uriel going back and forth. And the synopsis of their conversation is basically Uriel and the Messenger are talking down to Jeff and telling him that he knew what was going to happen and that uh he his hubris caused everything bad that's happening as a result of the angel engine. And then we also get a glimpse of that thing that we think is controlling Jeff that he saw when he died. Um so basically it's just all of these entities talking down to Jeff, either talking down to Jeff or Jeff is hearing these things speak to him because he feels guilty, because he knew what was going to happen.
SPEAKER_01:He also, and I'm I'm sure it's on purpose, but like when we see him again, he's like, Oh, I'm not going anywhere.
SPEAKER_04:Like his face looks like a mask, and I think that's it's like him putting on, yeah, like putting on a face and saying, like, like his doubts are being are creeping in, yeah, but he's putting on a face for the people. Um so basically, what this is all saying is that somehow Jeff should have known or did know all of the bad things that were going to happen as a result of creating the angel engine. Now, this is sort of hinted at in the very final part of this video where Jeff, Dr. Ernstman, is looking in the mirror. He's looking in a mirror, and all of a sudden, mid-sentence, he sort of transforms into the messenger. And it's like they're speaking as one, and it it's sort of hinting that the messenger and Jeff are the same individual, or er at least connected in some way. So the next thing is uh Angel Engine Part 21, the Tower is at hand. And this is uh where we are introduced to the office hours, and we're introduced to this thing that is called Babylon the Great. Later, there's this will have another name, um, they're the same entity, but this thing is called Babylon the Great, and it's a woman that is standing behind a man and it is addressing the citizens, and all of a sudden everything glitches out, and we start hearing from Uriel in his like super decayed, fucked up state. And what Uriel basically is doing is interrupting this broadcast and telling us or telling someone not to listen to these people that are talking, and it basically warns us about the vastness of Gehana and that uh they can't save your soul, essentially, is what it's saying. That um and then it goes on to explain that you need to take up his symbol and go towards the tower, which really is the angel telling whoever is listening or whoever will listen, which the hero is sort of suggesting that the hero or that blonde kid is one of these people that's listening to this broadcast because it shows a bunch of kids that is very similar looking to that kid. Um, and basically it's this angel or Uriel is trying to deliver the message that the kids need to turn towards God and actually accept the symbol of Jesus Christ, which is the cross, and fight back against Dr. Ernstman and the people who are doing this that are controlling the angel engine. So the next thing is Angel Engine Part 22, uh, which is called How to Save a Soul Soul from Burning. So we're being spoken to by the messenger again, and uh he says, How to save a soul from burning. If the soul is born to heathen parents, take the infant, purify them, and remove their tattoo, and then we're shown um removing a cross tattoo from a child, and then step two, house them in great quantities and indoctrinate them. Step three, upon their fourteenth birthday, have them take the mark. She is here, let them in. So this is where we get another shot of this lady who is the same woman that was hosting the office hours, and this lady is again known as Babylon the Great, and she is sort of like a like a spokesperson entity thing that is indoctrinating people to join this cause and like become part of this cult that's basically based around the angel engine. Angel Engine 23 is called If the Saints Starts Speaking to You, and in this video, um we're told that if a saint starts speaking to you, don't listen, don't believe, they're lying. Speak to a priest, pray to Ernstman, take the mark. So this is like in the format of a PSA, and basically what this is is propaganda to try to brainwash people into not listening to Saints, which I guess are a saint shows up later, but they're sort of like the same thing as the angels. Basically, it's just telling you to ignore when angels or things heavenly are speaking to you and just believe Ernstman instead, and to take the mark, which is uh the mark that marks you as part of this cult. Now, later in the video, we do see one of these saints things pop up behind a kid, and they'll show up again later, but these are presumably s some sort of other thing besides the angels that have been sent from God to communicate with human beings. Part 24 is called Do You Wanna Be an Angel? And here we get to see that Baraccul is still up to his fucking antics. Um we get a shot of two kids, they're just playing, and then Barack's shows up and he's like, Hey, can I play? What you fucking doing? What you up playing? I don't want to play. I won't play. Um, and then it cuts to a news broadcast, and we learn that Babbel 2 is under criticism because of Brachio, and he's just wandering about on his fucking own, getting up to antics, just walking up to children like a fucking creep, and people are not taking this well. Um this is where we learn that Brachiel was basically verbally abused by Ernstman and company. Wait, it's like up until this point, I think you can make the case that Dr. Ernstman is at least attempting to do something with the angel engine and not just cause pain for the sake of it. But now we see Barracul, which is this artificial angel that Dr. Ernstman has created. And he's like, I don't understand what's going on, I just want to have friends. And they're like, You fucking idiot, you're not an angel, you're not a human being, you you don't get to become an angel, you're a failure.
SPEAKER_03:And stay in the lab, you little bitch.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, you're supposed to just stay in the lab. You belong in the lab. And Barack is just like, I just want friends, and it's super duper sad. And then at the end, we get a transmission from this thing called Babbel One. And Babbel One is a green face on a screen. Um, because this I think this is insanely confusing, and I I don't think like I had to have this explained to me by something I read, but it does make sense. I'm just gonna say that Babel One and the Great Babylon, which is the lady, are apparently the same being. Babble I is an artificial intelligence that was created to, I suppose, like talk to people or lead this cult or whatever, and be on Dr. Ernstman and Babel II's side, um, and it eventually does take on like a semi semi-human form, which is when it becomes Babylon the Great. Uh maybe that's revealed like subtly through the rest of it, but I I think just knowing that knowing that straight up doesn't detract anything from the story, so and I think it it makes things less confusing. So it is they are one and the same. So we see Babel here at the end that suggests it and it basically just asks, Do you want to be an angel? And it kind of seems like it's not clear to me whether she is talking to Barracul and saying and like attempting to give Baraccul some sort of hope that he could become an angel, or maybe it's talking to a wider audience and asking if people want to ascend to angelness. That I'm not entirely sure of. Angel Engine part 25 is called the Great Revolt. So this is where we find out that people are super really fucking not jazzed about what's going on here anymore.
SPEAKER_01:We we see Super muddled.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. We see a uh another video of an angel core that is again pleading for help. It's tied up to a cross, um, and it's basically begging for help while the Babylon office hours are going on in front of it. The Babylon office hours again are the that uh thing from earlier where the great Babylon was talking, but she's not there this time because she's out doing other stuff. Um we see a saint appear behind this angel core, and then the saint starts speaking. And um we learn that allegedly uh this is the thousandth anniversary of the Great Revolt when angels tried to stage a coup against Babel, alleged uh I assume, and then um we get this conversation between this saint, and then this saint tells this kid that I guess is the same kid as the hero that he needs to go to the Holy Land and do something, I guess. I don't know. Do something. So the this is where like the whole well, it's not where, but this is more of this entire timeline being very muddled because it's shown, I I think, when Jeff Ernstman dies earlier, that he actually lived for like a thousand years. It's like 1992 to 3000 something. So this is the thousandth anniversary of some sort of angel coup that happened. So somewhere in this whole timeline of events, we we've missed a lot of the time, but the angel engine stuff happened, people got really upset, the angels tried to stage a coup through talking to people and get trying to get them to turn on Babel, and I guess it wasn't very successful because now we've had a thousand years of this cult being run by this artificial intelligence. Um but there's at least some resistance now being staged by these saints that are attempting to communicate with these children and get them to go to a holy land or something and get them to assist in the revolt. Yeah, help. Sorry, I thought you were gonna say something.
SPEAKER_01:Nope, I that's all I got.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. So um part 26. How to build your own angel.
SPEAKER_00:Oh hell yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So um we get more inf information from the messenger here, and the messenger lets us know how you build your own angel. Step one, go to your captive angel, take their DNA, find a viable host, and three, splice the angel's DNA into the host's egg. The angel engine can be used to jumpstart the process, apparently. Like Jeff's like, hey, we we can use the angel engine to jumpstart the process if the host isn't taking the angel DNA very well, but I don't usually like resorting to those sort of methods. Um and there's also another of this hint here that like the messenger and Jeff are the same person because the messenger is speaking, and in the middle of the messenger speaking, it transitions to Jeff talking and they like finish each other's sentences.
SPEAKER_01:Sandwiches, damn. Oof.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Um, so basically, what this video is letting us know is that the way that Jeff was able to create his own angels was to just take a lady, a girl, the Rachel, and just take some DNA from an angel and just stick it in there. Just really just get it in there.
SPEAKER_01:Get a turkey baster.
SPEAKER_03:This is uh this is actually kind of what I was alluding to earlier, um, where we find out that Rachel is like the the mother of these angels. She's weeping for her children. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So the the next thing is boots. Um it's a remake of the boots video from earlier.
SPEAKER_01:The only thing I'll say about this is why not if you could have one, but you could have two boots. Well, boots come in pairs, so it makes sense. That's true.
SPEAKER_04:The only thing I'll say about this is I think that this does sort of talk, like, even though it's not super plot heavy, it does kind of indicate that there was at some point some war against the angel court or core, and like people revolted, they tried to fight, it didn't turn out. Well they lost. Yeah, it didn't go good.
SPEAKER_03:And then I didn't give any credit to anyone again in this video.
SPEAKER_04:Sounds about right. Hey, you take a bunch of AI, you take a bunch of people's ideas, you smash them all up, you shit them out. You don't need credit.
SPEAKER_03:Take a bunch of AI, you tick them ideas, and you poop them out your butthole.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Yeah. Uh and part twenty-seven is an emergency broadcast. So in this, Babbel 1 lets us know that Babel II is under attack. Apparently, it's uh by people revolting. So I guess this is an emergency message for employees in Babel II, letting them know that they're under attack. And then we are also informed that our God has failed. Uh, he's too weak, and it appears that the worst case uh scenario has come to fruition. And uh the next thing that I so I wrote down notes about this 25 second thing. Is this in I did not watch the video that was uploaded today? Is this part of the video that was uploaded today?
SPEAKER_03:27, what you just covered was uploaded today. So that's the video. Yeah, where are you is also uh so basically where are you is we see Uriel saying, Um, Mom, where were you? Why didn't you save me? Why didn't you protect me? I was dying and you didn't even notice me. And like it's really short, it's like 25 seconds or whatever. The whole time they're saying this, uh you there's like a depiction of Christ going like, I'm here, child, like I'm here for you, child. Like, and that's that's all it is. That's like literally all it is.
SPEAKER_04:Basically, I took this to be that Uriel is speaking to God and saying, Because God sent Uriel to try to save the humans and they caged him. What Uriel is saying, Why did you let them do that to me? I was crying out to you, why didn't you save me? Like, why did you leave me captured and there to torture? And God looks like he feels like he really fucked up.
SPEAKER_00:He's like, He's looking bad.
SPEAKER_04:Maybe this wasn't the maybe this wasn't the move. I was having an awful I was having an awful lot.
SPEAKER_03:I thought I was doing a thing, but uh Uriel, I'm straight up not having a good time.
SPEAKER_04:Not my best thousand years, I gotta be honest.
SPEAKER_01:I'm having a lot of time. I also think at this because of this video, I think anytime you see Uriel or one of the um the angel core guys, like whenever they're in the background, when they're there's like the newscast or whatever, and they're just like, oh, save me or whatever. I think they're talking to God at that point.
SPEAKER_03:Not oh, like they're pleading to God, not pleading to be fair, there is a point where you can you could say that they are pleading to us because one of them does like offer uh I think when the mess the the messenger says it that your reward will be plentiful for Oh, your wage will be big. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So um It's it's do we just want to go into our thoughts, or does that because I mean that that's the last video they uploaded that like a couple hours ago, to be honest. So that's where we're at. This is ongoing. Um there's more videos to come out, I can only assume. Um they come out pretty frequently, so it is what it is. But um, I guess if you guys want to share your thoughts on stuff, um we can go from there.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I mean, do we want to like summarize basically what what is happening or what we think is happening?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So yeah, basically, something bad happened where humanity was left I guess on the brink of extinction or in a really bad spot, and they prayed to God to send them or to help them out.
SPEAKER_03:And God was like, bet kind of explained in episode one.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. God was like, bet and sent Uriel down to help out. And Uriel was like, Yo, I'm here. And they were like, and then Dr. Ernstman was like, get him. Yeah, grab that thing. And they hooked it up to him. It's coming right for us. And now and now Uriel's just a big angel battery. And was it and then Dr. Ernstman was like, hey, I bet we can make more of these things, and then took Uriel's DNA and crammed it into uh Rachel, into Rachel, yeah, made more angels. And then we got Barracul, and then they were like super trying to control the narrative on this. Dr. Ernstman fucking dies and then gets sent to hell. It's I guess it's kind of suggested that when he gets sent to hell, he's latched onto by some sort of demonic force that is now trying to control him and make him do even more bad, bad, bad. Um, and then yeah, then they take their whole fucking army of artificial angels and try to control people with them, and people fight back, and it doesn't go well for the people, and then people just kinda submit to them for like a thousand years, and then some saints task force, yeah. And then some saints show up and they're like, Hey, let's try this again, let's try not letting them get away with this again.
SPEAKER_03:And that's kind of where we're at, I guess. Yeah, it's uh there's a lot to be definitely inferred. Um, there's a lot of questions, there's a lot of unknown, like uh, you know, we we don't we just don't know everything, it's still coming out, it's still there's still publishing stuff.
SPEAKER_01:Um I like the concept, very fun, very cool.
SPEAKER_03:I like the concept. Um I think there's a couple things that took me out, and again, I kind of voice that with the boots stuff. I didn't like I don't like that they're like taking content and not giving any credit and still using the AI and not saying like a lot of people if you if you read the comments on the boots videos people are being educated in the comments that this is something that was done a long time ago. And I was like, ooh. Um I'm not like a super big like hater on AI stuff. I think if they had the means to get artists to do it, that'd be better for sure. Um, but I really I don't really have any room to speak on like what do you mean they were educating them that this happened a long time ago. If you look in the comments, like people are like, Oh, this is this is crazy, and then someone will be like, Yeah, so uh this is actually just a poem that like this guy read.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, I see.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, you're talking about the boots thing. Yeah. Um it it took me it took me out a little bit when I learned that they did that. And again, I'm not I don't really care that they used AI all too much. Um, because if it's like one dude that can't draw and doesn't have the means to like hire an uh like an animator, like sure, like AI is just another tool to use to do the thing that you want to do. I think the story is very cool. I think it's very I think there's a lot of personally, it felt like it didn't flow very well. Like I feel like there was a lot of ideas that they were trying to do, and it kind of was all just like kind of plopped together. Um, again, I don't know if this person did anything else other than this, so it could be their first thing, and like again, we see a lot of first-time people doing stuff, and it's a little sloppy and it's a little all over the place, and that's totally fine. I generally do like where this story is going. I think it has the potential to be really good. I hope they can, I don't know, maybe move away from whatever it is they're doing with the AI. Maybe they can do something a little more cohesive, but I I think the problem with it is that it makes you confused on what you're seeing. There's a lot of like this whole episode, we were like, uh, wait, who's that? Oh, it's is it this guy or or who are we talking about?
SPEAKER_04:And I think I mean we're pretty stupid, but I think we're not the only ones. Because yeah, like like I said earlier, if you watch synopsis or read the wiki of this, there are people had different opinions about what is who. One of the big things that I don't think people seem to agree on is it seems as though the messenger is speaking to the hero at some point, and there's in one of the videos it's shown that the hero kid walks up to this angel that is like all tied up in these wires and shit. And because they're they're tied up in wires and shit, you may may think that that is Uriel, but it seems to be that that is actually the messenger because the messenger is leading the hero there. So like he's attached to the wall for some reason in wires. Yeah. Um, and that is how that happens is not super clear to me.
SPEAKER_01:I don't think you're supposed to know yet. I think because I'm assuming that takes place in the far distant future. Yeah, there's a thousand years worth of lore here that needs to be filled in.
SPEAKER_04:The other thing is what doesn't make a lot of sense to me is the like the consensus among the community is that the messenger and Jeff Ernstman are in fact the same entity, and the messenger came back through time to tell Dr. Ernstman how to create the Angel Engine. And then the America of time. Yes. Through the yes, not yeah, the the Gulf of American time. Um to tell him how to create the Angel Engine, but presumably he fucked it up somehow or or decided to the fly effect. Or or maybe the Angel Engine initially was created to save humanity and it went well the first time, but Jeff got greedy. Who's to say? But um the thing that isn't clear to me and I can't tell if it's intentional or if it's just like one of those situations where they're just kind of making up things as they go. But the messenger kind of goes back and forth between playing this role of being the good guy and trying to be the voice of truth, but also in some of the the way that the messenger narrates everything, it the messenger seems deceptive because there's that one video where the messenger is speaking, but it's explaining to you how to brainwash someone. And so is that the messenger just playing the narrator and explaining to you how the process works, or is the messenger suggesting like that these people need to be brainwashed, in which case they're evil.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, no, I get you. Yeah, I I think because it doesn't make sense if the messenger is Jeff, why I'm not sure he'd be doing either good or bad things and not just things that Jeff is already doing. You know what I mean? Like, and also Jeff is Jeff, we saw him die, and then he we see he's kind of like corrupted by a demon. So is Jeff and the Messenger the same person, or did some sort of demon possess Jeff and take him over and he's the messenger, and that's what goes back in time. Well that would explain the evil stuff.
SPEAKER_04:The thing is, though, the timeline that led to the messenger's existence is not necessarily the timeline that we're following. Because the timeline that we're following is entirely a result of the messenger coming back in time and explaining to Jeff how to create the angel engine. The only reason that Jeff knows that he can use Uriel to create the angel engine is because the messenger told him.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So so is that the messenger telling Jeff that did that send the timeline off into an alternate timeline where where like maybe in the original timeline where Jeff becomes the messenger, he's not corrupted by the demon. I guess is what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe I don't know. Maybe we'll find out as this thing goes along. Maybe who's to say?
SPEAKER_04:It's difficult for me to say at this point whether this is really all planned out in advance, and this person has an idea of what they're doing, or if it's really just they're just kind of creating shit as they go.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I don't know. A lot of this was hard for me to follow, mostly because like um the visuals for me were very hard to like they're very they're jarring at certain points, like the way some things like moved and just flickered away, and how a lot of the imagery, like Jeff changes how he looks in like every fucking panel because it's AI, and it was it was hard to keep track of what was going on because so much of it was just random stuff, and something that we didn't even talk about at all was in some of the videos, like um some of the like interview videos on the fucking Barry Donovan show, there will be parts where Barry's talking, and then the like screen itself, you see like the weird creature hands like go over, grab the screen, pull it down. It does it a lot, and I I so this is and it's like, what is that all about? Because to me, that's inferring that it is like being a bit meta, like it's it's messing with us, the physical viewer, not anybody in story, right? But I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:I really, I really, really want to like this a lot more than I do. Um, and I think it's because the story is so sporadic and so chaotic that it's hard to like a lot of the time the I I think that's the problem with the AI-ness of it all, and again, I'm not trying to say like they can't use AI and you shouldn't use AI and whatever, like that's I'm not the stance I'm trying to take, but it's really hard to gauge what is important. So when I when I was in college, I took a film class, and one of the things you like the one of the first things you learn in film class is that every shot of a film or like anything you watch should have some bit of meaning, and the problem with the AI is that you don't know what's important and what isn't when you're seeing it because it's AI, it's just doing things, and that's what really makes it hard to determine what is going on in this because you have 45 different designs for each character. Um, you get a bunch of different views of the same thing all the time, so it's hard to tell like who's who.
SPEAKER_01:There's no people start looking the same, like Muriel and the Messenger at some points look identical. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_04:There's a lot of visual storytelling going on, but it's very difficult to tell what is actually there because it's relevant and what's there just because they thought it looked cool.
SPEAKER_03:Right. Exactly. And like again, which isn't a huge problem with analog horror in general, really. Uh again, I'm not trying to like poo-poo all too much on this, but like, and I think there's a lot of room for improvement too. Like, I think if if the person who made this has like that full story kind of mapped out in their head, great, awesome. I I would love to hear it be told. I just wish that we could do it without the AI in this sense, because I think if we had a construct like a uh if we had like a format that followed the same like visuals the whole way through, we'd be able to, you know, understand the story more. That's really it. Like I again, they don't have the means to do that, that's fine. I think it is what it is.
SPEAKER_04:I I think my theory is that this person had this concept in their head, a very loose concept. They just made this AI thing, they put it on TikTok, and people were like, Oh, this is fucking sick looking, which it is fucking sick looking, and then they just kind of ran with it, and now it's where it is.
SPEAKER_03:I think it's obviously that's just the society right now. Right, yeah, people see a minute and a half video and they're like, I could watch that.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, and it is very cool. The aesthetic is very cool. It does have it at least have a cohesive aesthetic that is very neat, right? But I would like to see, and I imagine well, the one thing we didn't mention is there's a Steam game that's coming out soon, yeah, um, which is kind of sick. But I imagine because this is so popular, maybe eventually there's gonna be a retelling of this entire thing in some more cohesive format, and I think that is gonna be super cool. Yeah, I think if this person could start over from the beginning, uh knowing and learning how what they've done now and just like do it all again from the beginning, it would be way better.
SPEAKER_03:So I have to ask, because I know we've already we've already brought up the topic. If the Steam game is all AI, what are we thinking here? All visually AI.
SPEAKER_04:As long as it's that's bad, is that good? If as long as I don't play the game and go as long as as long as I don't play the game and feel as though my experience is worse for having for it having been AI, I don't care. But if I'm playing the game and there's like wonky shit that's happening that's making it difficult to follow because it's been made with AI, and it's if it's taking me out of it, then I'm not gonna be happy about it.
SPEAKER_01:Um damn, we spent a lot of time on this one, I'll tell you what, boys.
SPEAKER_04:But um I think it's it's justified though, because this again, this is an extremely popular, this is probably like the single biggest analog thing at the moment, I think. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I'm glad we covered it. I thought it was very interesting. Um I uh I can't wait to see how it gures. Um on that note, I guess I'll just kind of say real quick you follow us on our socials. We're DelutyPod or don't look under the internet, uh don't look under the internet everywhere. Send us an email, deludypod at gmail.com. We'll read it. Uh there you go. Um, who's up engineering their angels right now? Um Matt, what do you got to say for people, beautiful people?
SPEAKER_04:Uh something about a Venezuelan oil rig or something got captured today. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah, you're doing the thing. Yeah, we did that. We took over oil rig. Remember when it was about remember how it was about drugs? Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03:Oil rig.
SPEAKER_01:Oil rig. Doug, what do you have to say?
SPEAKER_03:Uh I don't know. Make sure you have like your narchan on hand in case Andy Dick is ODing in the street or something.
SPEAKER_04:Be resourceful. Okay, I I think I feel like this is important. There is a tag at uh a line at the very bottom of the steam listing for the Angel Engine game that says while generative AI was used in the creation of the original Angel Engine web series, no AI was employed in the creation of this game.
SPEAKER_03:I was actually just about to say that. I was gonna say the game looks pretty good, actually.
SPEAKER_04:It looks 3D modeled and stuff, so it's got a very similar aesthetic to that iron lung game thing.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Uh hell yeah, brother. All right. Um, un unearthly AI or whatever your name is.
SPEAKER_03:Also, one one last thing. Um, Marketplayer cheated on his 2020 night. Um I'm just kidding. I don't know. I haven't I haven't seen the video yet.
SPEAKER_01:Nope. Um cool. Well, uh goodbye, everybody. Thanks for joining us, and we'll see you next time.
SPEAKER_02:Bye.
SPEAKER_01:Poop, poop, peep, peep, peep.
