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DLUTI 219 - Mayday Mystery
It's May in December this week as we wildly speculate about a decades long mystery.
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SPEAKER_03:I'm gonna eat healthy for a week and go back to the way.
SPEAKER_05:I feel that. I feel that fucking goddamn December is the worst. Yep. Hello, kitten. Welcome to uh don't look under the internet.
SPEAKER_03:Um kitten. The internet's favorite podcast on comedy and hoa. Um that's Doug. Hi. That's Moothu. I'm Michael. Uh Jason's not here. I Michael. Is that what you just said? I Michael. I'm a robot, but I Michael. I Michael. Yeah, there we are. Um boys, I do gotta I do gotta say. Um we watched we watched K-pop Demon Hunters at home. I've told the boys this before. Uh banger of a film, banger of uh soundtrack. I'm a Saja Boy lover. I'm just saying. Um I don't care. I don't care.
SPEAKER_01:Um Saja Boy tell him.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, the um so great movie, and it wears its influences on its sleeve, uh, in my opinion, heavily influenced by the Disney Channel original TV show Hannah Montana. Why you may ask? Well, I'll tell you boys. First and foremost, in K-pop demon hunters, this isn't spoiling anything because it's literally the title of the movie. They're demon hunters, and they're they're musicians. Okay, they live a double life, they have their musician life and then they hunt demons. Miley Cyrus, aka Miley Stewart from Hannah Montana, also lived a double life. She had her life as Miley and her life as Hannah Montana. She also fought demons, though not physical, like in the movie, metaphorical, the demons of within. So I think I think K-pop demon hunters is heavily influenced by one Hannah Montana.
SPEAKER_01:Also, they're really trying they're really trying to hide. I was trying to figure out how he's going to transition into the topic of the episode, but I figured that wasn't what was happening.
SPEAKER_03:Nope. I just wanted to bring that up.
SPEAKER_01:Also, they're really trying to hide it in that movie, but definitely heavily influenced by the country of Korea.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you would never know.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. You wouldn't. You would never know. Um it's subtle. I would like to very subtle.
SPEAKER_03:Um now. I don't have a segue to what we're gonna talk about. I just wanted to do that. Uh today. Today we're talking about uh something I I found a long time ago in the world.
SPEAKER_01:The month of May.
SPEAKER_03:That's our segue. Um we're talking we're talking about uh the May Day mystery today. I stumbled across this eons ago, and I never really thought about how to make it an episode. And I when I was looking for a topic to talk about today, uh, I didn't really have anything huge planned, and I was like, you know what? Let's look into the Mayday mystery. And so I did, and I was like, you know what? There is just enough here where we can probably squeeze out an episode in it. So we're doing it. Um on May 1st, 1995, a uh a man named Brian Hance was looking in the Daily Wildcat, which is a school publication uh uh uh newspaper in a place that I forgot the name of and didn't write down.
SPEAKER_05:Wow. Arizona. University of Arizona?
SPEAKER_03:University of Arizona, thank you. Uh they have a newspaper called the Daily Wildcat. And on May 1st, 1995, Brian was just kind of skimming through the pages here, and uh he discovered a weird publication in it. Um while this publication seemed weird at first.
SPEAKER_01:I think it's an advertisement in like the ad section where you can buy a spot.
SPEAKER_03:Yes. At first he was like, That's probably nothing. Just some guy doing a gif, a gaff, if you will. So he ignored it. A year later, in that same section, he saw another publication that looked eerily similar to the last one. Brian again was just like, ah, whatever. Another year later, there was another one, another one, another one. And this is going on to this day. Every year, on May 1st, for the past 30, 40, some odd years, there has been a publication in this daily Wildcat newspaper involving whatever this mystery is. Now, Brian gained interest over the years after he noticed this repeated publication over and over and over, and he created the website called Maydaymyst.org to document all the findings and all of the publications that he Wowie Zowie.
SPEAKER_05:So here's a recap. Um, he's a student at University of Arizona, um, and he discovered the Mayday mystery. Um absolutely killer journalism. Uh, guess what he did? He started a fucking website. What?
SPEAKER_01:Holy shit, dude. Is it called Maydaymystery.org?
SPEAKER_05:It it could be.org or dot gov. I don't remember. Um but uh yeah, no, he made a website with all the archives of all these ads dating back to 1981 because that's when the internet was founded in '81.
SPEAKER_03:The Xanadu hyperlink project.
SPEAKER_05:Uh but there's more. There's a couple, I have two sentences more than Mike than what Mike told you. Content. Um so over the years, he has received mail, packages, and communications from alleged members of the groups behind these ads, who I will not name yet because I'm sure that will come up in potentially what I thought Mike would explain. But um, he got coins, printouts, letters, and even cash. And supposedly these were payment or encouragement to continue trying to figure out their their puzzles. Um, and despite his central role in this documentation, he's not responsible for it.
SPEAKER_04:And that's what he says, and that's his claims. He claims he's not responsible, but yet he's very involved.
SPEAKER_03:So yeah, there's there's a point where he he was like on quote, being like, I kind of regret finding all this. He's taking so much time, I'm kind of upset.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, he does not seem uh he seems like happy and then also not very thrilled.
SPEAKER_03:I think the funny thing is, like you said, he gets like gets received, like he gets sent gifts and like words of encouragement from the people who are possibly making the mystery. Right. That he's like, Oh great, I'm obligated to keep this going. When he wanted to call it quit like 30 years ago. Now he's roped into it. And now he's just in it.
SPEAKER_01:Can he not just pass it off to somebody else?
SPEAKER_03:He kind of does on the website. It's like, oh, the Facebook is ran by so-and-so, so submit any inquiries to them. So he pretty much just like ah.
SPEAKER_01:I just I just website, you guys fucking you can also tell there's a point in the website where he just fucking gave up because he was like Was it by the design of the site and how it looks like it was made in 2002?
SPEAKER_05:Well, it was made in '97 or whatever, so and updated it has never changed.
SPEAKER_01:Well, if you go to the texts, there's like comments and shit in the text. And at some point he just fucking gave up and made the fucking lexicon thing and just started shoving shit in there. And then at some point he just gave up on that and was like, just go to the fucking Facebook group.
SPEAKER_05:He doesn't care. Yeah, he's like, Alright, we're gonna do this alphabetically. I'm gonna start putting clues in here. Nope. No, I'm not. You can kind of just yeah, you can kind of just tell if you go through if you go through that and the fucking uh the text or whatever, it's like yeah.
SPEAKER_03:You could probably ask yourself when you're listening, um, boy, boy, uh they're talking about this funny, and that's because there's really not a whole loss here. Nothing here. There's nothing really here.
SPEAKER_01:Well, the thing is there's so much here, and but none of it is of any substance at all.
SPEAKER_03:It's very calorie dense, but you're not getting anything from it.
SPEAKER_01:It's just like there's it's just like drinking a bucket of whipped cream.
SPEAKER_03:That's how we have to describe a lot of like analog horrors or like ARGs from now on. This is the McDonald's of ARG. It's it's gonna get you a bunch of calories, but you're not gonna get any nutrition out of it.
SPEAKER_05:Um I think the most I've taken out of this whole thing is that there's a smiley face guy. Smiley.
SPEAKER_01:I think that's the only thing anybody knows for certain, honestly.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Oh, there's other things that I'll go into. There's other things. So let me go into a couple, yeah. Let me go into a couple things here. So um the website that we're talking about, uh, madeaymystery.org, um, holds all of the archives from the uh that Brian could find, uh, and all of his findings that he found, like clues, hints, all that stuff.
SPEAKER_01:And random shit that people sent him.
SPEAKER_03:And random shit that people sent him. Um he uploaded the archives that the school kept, but the school's archives only go back to 1981. Um that's when the internet was invented. That's when the internet was invented. We know this. And the Tootsie Roll. Yeah, this is true. The year before the Tootsie Rule. Yeah. Oh, yeah, no, no, no. You're right, you're right. There is reference to the fact that this has been going on earlier. They found uh someone sent him um like a piece of uh the publication from like the 70s that someone just randomly had from like their grandpa or something. And so we only have the archives going back to 81, but uh we know that there are earlier hints and everything. So this has been going on for a long time. Um the website owns every puzzle since 1981. Um, and each of these puzzles contain the same four things. They can contain historical figures, the letters S R slash C L, the word Liet motive, and yours truly, smiley guy, little smiley faced doodle. Which people he's a pretty sick dude. He's just a chill guy, you know.
SPEAKER_05:He's just a little dude.
SPEAKER_03:People like to theorize that uh the smiley guy is some sort of key to a bunch of the codes. They've noticed over the years. Uh Matt, do you go into this at all?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you're basically reading my notes word for word.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, I'm shutting the fuck up then. Um he's taken two of our jobs. Do you mention Oliver Cromwell? No.
SPEAKER_01:I do have I do I do have one of the puzzles that he's mentioned in, but I don't have any details about Oliver Cromwell.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's all I'll say. I'm not going to mention any details on these guys, but um, the historical figures that I mentioned, the four historical figures that are most prominent are Oliver Cromwell, Martin Luther, uh Gustavus Adolphus, and John Calvin. Um people believe that this gives the puzzles a little bit of a religious theme and nature to them. Um the puzzles that are found, again, I'm not going deep into it. Don't worry, Matthew. Um, the puzzles contain cryptic symbols and messages.
SPEAKER_06:I didn't either.
SPEAKER_03:They contain cryptic symbols and messages that I don't Matt may go into. If not, I'll help out. Um, but some claim that the mystery is um this puzzle to solve to gain uh access to secret societies and things of the sort of the nature.
SPEAKER_05:Um now I like how those secret societies are like if we give him money, maybe he'll keep trying to do it.
SPEAKER_03:You have to know when our zoom meeting is.
SPEAKER_05:Please, sir, let us keep putting this in the Arizona paper because I'm sure hundreds of people see it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Now, Matt will go over a couple examples of puzzles, but there are a lot. There's a lot of puzzles. And the weird thing is a fuckload of them have just not been solved. The guys upload the puzzles and what they look like, but not a whole lot of people have solved or cracked any of these.
SPEAKER_01:Um I don't think a single one of these puzzles has actually been solved in full in the sense that we understand what this entire page means.
SPEAKER_03:No, they people have solved a good chunk of a lot of the puzzles on a page, but not the entire page in its whole. Um now, who is behind this? You might be wondering. I'll tell you a little bit of info on that. Um Brian received an email or I mean a message. He found a message. I'll get to the email in a second. He found a message, a letter, if you will, from 1989. And we see in this message that there is a group of people um who are making these puzzles that call themselves the Orphanage. Why they're called that, who fucking knows. Um Brian was able to find appears in the letters sent to him. That's well, he uh he found it in a letter that was not sent to him. He found it in one of the um, just on one of the archive pages. He he saw uh reference to them being like, We the orphanage, blah blah. Um but then the orphanage sends him emails and letters and gifts and whatnot from them calling themselves the orphanage.
SPEAKER_05:They they sent him an email and they're like, hello, it is the orphanage.
SPEAKER_03:And it's uh it's like hello, it's the orphanage. Here is our extremely hard to crack uh uh code.
SPEAKER_05:And it's here is one we would love for you to continue your job.
SPEAKER_03:It's the number three, equal sign, equal sign, equal sign, equal sign, equal sign, capital D. They got him. Stupid. Um so Brian was able to figure out he found in one of these letters um from the archive, he found a name uh of a lawyer that is apparently associated with this named Robert Truman Hungerford. Um who apparently it is it actually might be a fake name because Hungerford. This person, this person acts as an intermediary between the orphanage and the publications. Hungerford.
SPEAKER_05:Is talking to a guy named Hungerford who's talking for the orphanage. It's all made up, it's all made up. This is fake as fuck.
SPEAKER_03:Uh Hungerford refuses to disclose any information on the orphanage. He even goes as far as to be like, oh, those publications decided to even know what do you want more like. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Um Hungerford, I will say, is probably a it might be his real name because he seems like a legit lawyer by like the comments he gives to Brian. Because Brian's like, tell me everything you know. Like, why are you uploading these? Who's the orphanage? And Hungerford's just like, hmm, these publications seem to be the scribblings of a madman. And that is me. I'm the insane person. You shouldn't take anything you see here seriously. So he's being like, I'm crazy. He's given the lawyer version of I'm the crazy kook that's sending these in. But Brian don't believe that because publication apparently is pretty expensive for the Wildcat. Apparently, if you want to do a publication on the Wildcat, it's around a thousand dollars for that page.
SPEAKER_01:It's probably just a rich dude who like works at the university or whatever, who's just having a goof.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, like how do you how do you not be able to just go to the university and be like, yeah, who's publishing this?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, who's give me the email of whoever's doing this to you?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, they have to be sending payment.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Um, with a legit name or something, or LLC at least. Um anyway.
SPEAKER_01:I would imagine you could probably get published in a college newspaper with just cash.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Like you could probably just be that's fair. Here's 200 bucks in cash. They'd probably be like, all right, fuck it, whatever.
SPEAKER_03:Thank you. Our journalism uh department really needed this. Anyway, so in um in 1999, the orphanage sent an email to Brian, much like um uh Doug mentioned with gifts and such, but uh they sent an email to Brian and let him know that the puzzles are very important to the world, and they're not just centered around this one school, but in fact, they are all around the globe, and they have sent him hints, gifts, like Doug said. They've sent him money um allegedly to keep the site's server running. Uh, he's gotten packages from all around the world. Um, he's just been sent a whole bunch of info, or not info, but um um I guess bribes to keep looking into this. So that's why Brian's like donations. God damn it, I gotta keep it going. Yeah, he's getting donations. Um so he feels guilty if he just gives up. He's kept it going for 30 some odd years. Um but that's the whole thing, is like there is no resolution to this. It is still a mystery. We haven't solved any full publication pages. We don't know half of the shit that's out there. The clues that we have solved are fucking insane. Um uh Matt, you have a couple I'm uh you want to go over.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so I just jotted down a few examples of these puzzles, and then just like some ideas that people had about what some of this shit might mean. So we'll start. Where do we start if not the beginning? So the first puzzle was sent on May 1st, 1981, and like uh like Mike was saying, a lot of these involve sort of the same thing. So SRCL, that's one of these things that you can see that pops up several times. This is on this one. Another thing that you're gonna see that is repeated over and over again is just text in different languages. So this one is in Chinese. Um the original the original posting was on May Day, May 1st, 1981, or the one that at least spawned this investigation was. Now, if you translate these Chinese characters, what you get is some stuff about Chairman Mao, and now Chairman. Chairman Mao was a communist leader in China. Um this translates roughly to long live Chairman Mao. Now, what is the significance of this? Well, May Day, if you're not aware, is also known as Workers' Day or Laborers' Day, which is has historically been used or synonymous with a celebration of communism and like communist parties and stuff like that, because it's basically a celebration of like normal regular old labor worker people. So maybe that's connected in some way. Um that's really kind of all we know about this one. Uh it also says it has it says Richmond, and then it just it has the day scribbled on it. May it May Day 1981. Now the next one that we get on May Day is 1982. And this one, again, is SRCL, then there's some Chinese, and then this is where we see Mr. Smiley Man himself. So Smiley Man just looks, he kind of looks like a monkey. He's like a it's a smiley face with two gigantic ears and then hair on top. Now, some people speculate that this is a key, like Mike said, and that the hairs have something to do with it. So in a lot of these drawings of Mr. Smiley Man, he's got these little hairs sticking up out of the top of his head, but there's different numbers each time. So some people think that the number of hairs that he has on his head have something to do with it. This one has six. Um, if you go to the website and check out uh these archives, like the actual day, there's comments on these about people or from people that uh give their theories. I wrote down some of these. Um one person says that uh May Day 1982, when it's turned into a series of numbers by counting letters and splitting them into groups of two, becomes 33. 1982. This seems much like other sets of coordinates that have been derived from other messages. So these are the types of leaps in logic that you can expect from these sorts of these sorts of clues. Just people I thought they were gonna go somewhere that nonsense. No, no, that's coordinates. So there are coordinates on some of the later messages. Uh, I did have I do have an example of some of those. Um, but this person thinks that if you turn this May Day 1982 into numeric values, that it uh gives you some coordinates.
SPEAKER_03:Did you see the um the clue for like the word Richardson has like eight letters in it, that whole thing? Do you see that one?
SPEAKER_01:No, I didn't.
SPEAKER_03:So there's one that's like the huge leap and bound here. There's one where it's like um one thing that you'll find a lot is um the name Richardson uh is next to the uh SRCL a lot. Um some people believe. Are you gonna are you do you talk about Stan Stanley Richardson or whatever his name is?
SPEAKER_00:No.
SPEAKER_03:No. There's a there's a man who is found to be the the a TLDR. Long story short, one of the clues has to do with a stamp.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I do have stuff about stamps.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, one of them has to do with stamp. They found a uh stamp collector who is going to like a stamp museum at one point, and that uh on like May 1st, and like, oh, it's connected. That stamp collector's name is like Stanley Richardson or Steven Richardson, one of those two.
SPEAKER_01:And the the name Richardson is incredibly common last name. Yeah, all they've got to go off of is stamps and Richardson.
SPEAKER_03:Well, and the the name Richardson is on the letter, or is on a lot of the the puzzles, and also they believe that the SR and SRCL stands for Stanley Richardson or Steven Richardson, whatever his name was. So they believe he might be involved in this. But people were like, Oh, the the the name Richardson, it's eight letters, and then there is some like Chinese symbols underneath, and they're like, Oh, something about Chinese symbols is you count the brush strokes, and there are like there's like 24 of them, and they're like, the next update will be on August 24th, and I guess there was, but I'm like, that seems like a long shot, man.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, there is one from August 24th that just says SRCL and then more Chinese and says soon. So So I guess that that technically counts as a solved puzzle, but I don't know if it might I mean yeah, maybe that's a maybe that's a solved puzzle.
SPEAKER_05:Maybe.
SPEAKER_01:Um is to say, who is to say? Alright, so we got some more theories about this one from 1982 here. So uh one person says that the six hairs on the top of Mr. Smiley's head is the number of Venus in most numerologies, and the head is elliptical like the solar system. The other numbers one through nine also have planetary and astrological references. Now, Mao. So this this uh also says something about Mao. Uh Mao is apparently a popular infinite game where the dealer must not speak the rules. They have been gathered through inductive reasoning, which actually I don't know anything about this, but I kind of want to look this up because that actually sounds really fun. Playing a game that you don't know the rules, but you have to deduce the rules button. That sounds like Dallas. Sure.
SPEAKER_05:No?
SPEAKER_01:Okay. Okay. Well, I'm gonna look into that more though. Um so here's a real leap. The smiley face, when stared at, properly reveals SOS as in May Day. Also strange is that when the smiley face is stared at the right way, it reveals the Visica Pisces. This reminds me. Reading these things reminds me of being in Discords where people are trying to solve ARGs because it's just random shit like this.
SPEAKER_03:That red spot is there. If you take the color matcher and put it on there, that's that's R uh 48. R48 in biblical sense is this.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it just fun, but none of this means anything. Um person said, I'm not certain if this has any relevance, as any of us really are, but the Chinese writing in this Mayday transmission is present on these Chinese stamps issued May 1st, 1967. So that's where the stamps kind of come into play. So that there's some Chinese stamps where the writing that was on one of these ads is also on those stamps, and those stamps were issued on May 1st. So that is that's an interesting tidbit. I feel like that has more connection than most of the things I've read this far.
SPEAKER_03:I also don't see where they're coming with the SOS in the face.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I I don't see one Sleep. I see one S in the nose, but S I I think the ear is an S, the face is an the O. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:That ear do not be looking like an S.
SPEAKER_01:It don't be looking like an S at all. Not at all. Uh the next one that I jotted down, so it's these span an eternity. So there's lots of things. I jumped ahead quite a bit. I went to uh May 1st of 1994. So this one is a fucking ex it's just an explosion of text. It is uh my dark reader's kind of fucking this up. Hold on. Um, but this is a gigantic page full of equations and text and multiple different languages. We got some Chinese, we got some Greek shit going on, we got Czech going on, we got um at the top it says SRCL May Day 1994. Or whatever the that fucking word is. What is now proved was first first imagined. Blank Blake. We got some music written down. There's a picture of an old fucking boat, maybe that's like the Mayflower or some shit. I don't know. Um May. Oh, that makes sense. That makes sense. I'm gonna go with that. I'm gonna go with that.
SPEAKER_03:We just solved it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:We got a picture of the Boston Common, we got some dude in a chair. I don't fucking know. We got it ain't over till it's over. I don't it's a picture of a graveyard, I think. Um but anyway, there's there's some there the smiley face man is at the bottom that says there's a big paragraph that says the fuzzy furry freak brothers will dock the Arbella conjointly with the little orphaned children, bringing the port, the city of Richmond at Pier 9 of the Ed Embarsadero to be met by the midget tag team who will festively convey both crews to the plenary session in the Hotel California. Uh that's like a third of it. I don't think so.
SPEAKER_03:This is worded the same way as that like new age spiritual, you know, it's just like gobbledygook. It's just big words thrown together to sound improved.
SPEAKER_01:I don't even know about that. But this does have the vibes of like uh trying to start a cult and just making things up and like hoping schizos will just where is there's star seed? Yeah, right. Yeah, exactly. Um so some notes that people made about this. Uh the check roughly on the page roughly translates to he is interested in our symbol not only for the sake of what it represents, but also for what it is. What symbol? I don't know. Maybe the smiley guy. Who's to say? Yeah, the Greek biblical passages on the handwritten background are Acts 25 6, after eight or ten days he went down, Mark 7 7, teaching as doctrine human precepts, Luke 10 27, love the Lord your God with all your heart and soul. And then um several things that just say through our Lord Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, there's a lot of like Greek influence on this too. I think you mentioned it before, but there's like this weird like Greek like uh alphabet code thing that people have established as part of it.
SPEAKER_05:Considering it's a a university paper. Yeah, it's like Greek life connected sort of thing.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, there's some like Greek, there's like some Greek like code, like letter code that is used pretty prominently in this or something like that.
SPEAKER_01:Um so the I skipped ahead 20 more years and checked out May 1st of 2015. This one says SRCL Lyotmative or Leomotive or whatever the fuck. Um, and then it's got multiple things in different languages uh that are I guess quotes, one is attributed to Lenin. There's some coordinates on here, uh, which is interesting. I mentioned that the coordinates would come up. This does appear several times, uh, and then we've got some references to people that are referenced in several of these. We got Luther, Corral, Calvin. Uh some people pointed out some things about this. That uh the so the first coordinates that appear on the page is the city of Cruzarine Cruzario de Sul in Brazil. Um, and then the point apparently is on the grounds of St. John's Cemetery, which is referenced again later in the puzzles. And then the second coordinate is St. Giles Cathedral in Edinburgh. So that's what we can get. Do with that what you will. Do with that what you will. Um says this one is April 25th, 2018, aka May 1st, 2018. I don't understand what that means. Um to any of us.
SPEAKER_02:You know.
SPEAKER_01:So the actual publication date on this was April 25th. Um apparently it has something to do with the weekly schedule of the newspaper, and maybe that's why it was published on that day instead of Mayf actually on May 1st.
SPEAKER_03:Um got that boy with him.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:So people kind of a little turd.
SPEAKER_01:One of those legs. People just really be guessing at this one. This one is a big old picture of some farmers in a field, and then Jesus or a saint, or I don't know who this is.
SPEAKER_03:I think it's a saint.
SPEAKER_05:It's looking awfully saintish.
SPEAKER_01:He's got a crown on it.
SPEAKER_05:Looking like a looking kind of like a Jeebus. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I'm not really sure, but he's descending on these farmers.
SPEAKER_05:Saint Jeebus.
SPEAKER_01:Um, I'm sure this is like a famous painting, and I'm showing my ignorance here, but I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:It's some you want ignorance. You want ignorance, ignorance, full disclosure on the last episode with Angel Engine, when you guys were like, Oh, yeah, the boots poem, yada yada yada. I've never heard that poem before in my life.
SPEAKER_05:I have no idea what y'all were talking about. I didn't hear it until fucking 28 years later, did it, and I was like curious as to what it was.
SPEAKER_03:But yeah, I don't I got no clue, but you're just like, Yeah, he didn't credit the guy, and it's like, why would he choose that out of everything?
SPEAKER_01:I'm just like, Yeah, and you were like, Yeah, I don't know, man. Everybody knows that poem. That's crazy. That's crazy. Jeez.
SPEAKER_05:I didn't know it too. I just did my research. Damn.
SPEAKER_01:I can't imagine doing that. Um we got some of the same names for that we've, you know, we got Cromwell. We got sometimes it's Cromwell, sometimes it's just Crowell.
SPEAKER_05:Uh sometimes it's just Crum. Just cumwell. Yeah, come and sometimes it's just L.
SPEAKER_01:We got Smiley Face Man on top of the picture. He's got five hairs this time. Anyway, like I said, people really just be fucking guessing at this one.
SPEAKER_05:Um here here's They really named it a compass, right?
SPEAKER_01:This one says five names are spelled at the very beginning of the message. Pim Hampton, Haslerig, Pim, Hall, Pim, Pim, uh, Halls and Strode. Historically speaking, these were the five that opposed directly Charles I and faced arrest, but they escaped before the royal police laid hand on them. And then it's just a lot of history shit like that. Um we got some transl apparently something translates to pray for us. We got Gustav II, Adolf, widely known in English by his Latinized name, Gustavus Adolphus, or his Gustav II Adolf, was the king of Sweden from 60 from 1611 to 1632, who's credited for the founding of Sweden as a great power. Oliver Cromwell was an English military and political leader. He served as Lord and Protector of the Commonwealth of England, Scotland, and Ireland from 1653 until his death. What does any of that have to do with anything? Your guess is as good as mine.
SPEAKER_03:Who's to say?
SPEAKER_01:Yep. Yep. Um information about a Macbeth verse, and then by the time this person's finished with their comment, they are typing in binary.
SPEAKER_03:So And you listener are probably wondering what have they been talking about this whole time? What do these pictures, what do these pages look like? They're they're just some of them are just long strands of just like the rantings of a lunatic. Yeah. And and shit. Others, like Matt said, have a religious image and then the smiley guy on it. Others will be like fucking trigonometry, like algorithm and like fucking fractions and shit. It it straight up looks like if you just took a cryptic shit in your hand and just threw it onto a paper. There you go.
SPEAKER_01:Yep. Um the most recent May Day post is from May Day of this year, 2025. So this is very long. Um the first page has maybe that's the maybe that is the Mayflower. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:This looks like some this is getting a little meta, but this page looks like the instructions I get from some third parties from work to install this shit on a website. This looks just like that. Just some trash ass. Here's step one of 40. God damn it.
SPEAKER_01:It is a piece of paper that is divided into quadrants with transportation methods in the corners that says Cromwell, Luther Calvin, and Gustavus Adolphus.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, there might be something there with the Adolphus one because all of them are numbered except Smiley Man. So I'm and he's got four hairs. Number four, he's got four hair. Key.
SPEAKER_01:Oh shit, you're right. So yeah, people were pointing out earlier that the number of hairs had something to do with it. But yes, that so these these quadrants are labeled one, two, three, and then the one that the smiley face man is in, he is replacing the number and he's got four hairs. So that's that's interesting.
SPEAKER_03:I wonder if you find reference Adolphus only got four pews. I wonder if you find reference to Adolphus in here or the number four, you're supposed to replace it with Adolphus. And I realize that sounds stupid because I'm looking at coordinates, and you wouldn't just throw the word Adolphus into a coordinate.
SPEAKER_05:This this is giving like some like big bang theory shit where it's like uh there's like this guy, whoever's doing this is just like Sheldon. He's just like really smart and he's like, Someone needs to know this thing that I know. Like, and nobody knows it because you know.
SPEAKER_01:I'll all I know is the whole universe is in a hot dense state.
SPEAKER_05:I just wanna expansion started.
SPEAKER_01:Uh wait, the earth began to cool, the autodrophs began, and the end of Thralls developed tools. We built the wall.
SPEAKER_05:We built the pyramids.
SPEAKER_01:Math, science, history, unraveling the mystery. That all started with the Dolphus.
SPEAKER_04:It all started with the Dolphus.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so this goes on and on and on. There's more fucking coordinates. There's a picture of a cruise ship there that says when our ship bumpers are well laden, we shall homeward. Oh, I I forgot the paragraph in the middle of the first page. 50% of Americans own two and a half percent of the national wealth. That is the formula for revolution. It may not be today or tomorrow, but it will come.
SPEAKER_05:So will I.
SPEAKER_01:So it will be. So will heavy on the cruise ships this one. Uh this is a good one.
SPEAKER_03:This is like a fucking jet two holiday, am I right, baby? A jet two holiday.
SPEAKER_01:Act now. Anyway, so yeah, that's that's the most recent May Day one. There's no comments on the the page on the website, but there is a Facebook page or a Facebook group, I guess, where a lot of this discussion happens. It's really inconsistent what makes it from the Facebook page onto the website. Um there is a lexicon where at some point, like we were saying, that guy just kind of fucking gave up on the comments and just started shoving shit into this lexicon. So if you go to the lexicon section of the website, it's all organized in alphabetical order, and this is information that is in some way relevant to some clue. And it's all and out. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I'm glad that there's a lexicon here, but it's obvious this man is very depressed. Probably because he forgot to take a like his Lexi Pro. Yes, baby! We're out here! We're fucking doing it, dude!
SPEAKER_05:It wasn't until you stood up that I realized you were running like a full Snuggy. This is my shanklet. My shirt blanket. Your shanklet?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, shirt blanket. It's a shanklet.
SPEAKER_05:Shank you in the shower? No. Alright. That's fair. That's fine.
SPEAKER_03:Anyway, go ahead.
SPEAKER_01:I just I I there I mean there's not a whole lot to say. It's just it's just an alphabetical list of random information that may be relevant in some way, but it's it's also not explained in what way it's relevant to any of the puzzles. Like the very bottom, the last thing is just says zip codes, and then there's three zip codes Washington, DC, Berkeley, California, New York. No explanation as to why those are relevant.
SPEAKER_05:I assume they were at some point, but they they were in a puzzle at some point in time. Well, yeah, no, I get that.
SPEAKER_01:I get that. They were in a puzzle at some point, but it doesn't say what puzzle or how that leads you to any more information or anything. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:But like here's a coordinate. You figure it out.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so there's a bunch of uh coordinates listed. There's a map page that just 404s if you click on it. So that's pretty neat.
SPEAKER_05:Uh yeah. Uh I didn't update this from 1997, so uh with some kitten.
SPEAKER_03:So far so expensive. Listen kitten.
SPEAKER_00:Kitten. I didn't want to update the lexicon. So I need you to work an extra shift at the subway this week.
SPEAKER_05:I need you to work an extra shift at Woo21. You understand why I'm punishing you, white kitten. Oh god. Do you understand why I punish with you? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Yeah. What's the kidding? I need you to work an extra shift at Quaya's. Uh I'm buying Call of Duty 7.
SPEAKER_01:You honestly kind of sounded like Charlie.
SPEAKER_03:You did. You gotta grasp the nasal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was pretty good.
SPEAKER_00:You're right. Pim, you can't do it. Yeah, I can't.
SPEAKER_05:I can't do it. Anyway. Uh there was no new episode this week. I think they're I think they're done for the season.
SPEAKER_01:I could go on and on and on and on, but none of it would make any more sense if I did.
SPEAKER_05:So you could though. I could. Have you thought about have you thought about the fact about it?
SPEAKER_01:I thought about it, but as I was talking, I was boring myself, and I was like, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:I was like, man. My part has to be way less long now.
SPEAKER_03:Well, we're fluffing for time on this episode, so it don't matter. Where are we at?
SPEAKER_05:Where are we at on the theories? Okay, there we go. This is that yeah. Okay, so this is this is the part that Jason was supposed to do. And um I did it instead. So here we go. Uh some of the theories. Uh you're gonna hear a lot of uh information that we've already said because to be fair, we're just kind of recapping some of the things that people think and why they believe it, and then why people don't believe it.
SPEAKER_03:So the word Illuminati is probably gonna be thrown around a lot.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I probably don't say it at all, actually. So um first theory is that it's a real secret society operating over decades and decades. Um what the theory says is that it's a hidden organization called the Orphanage. Um, we know this because of the name appears in letters to Hants, um, and it uses the ads as a coded communication between members across the world. Why people believe it is because the ads reference obscure math, multiple languages, military history, religious text, and international events. What do you got for me, Mike?
SPEAKER_03:I know you didn't say it, but uh the way I I guess it came through the mic, I just heard white people believe it.
SPEAKER_05:White people believe this.
SPEAKER_03:This is almost strictly probably a white person thing.
SPEAKER_05:So uh the other reason why why people believe it um is the complexity of the ads is wrong.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, this this this this this cries white autistic guy. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_05:Um the complexity of the ads is far beyond a prank. Um, some of this includes like you know, pages of ciphered like text, Latin Greek calculus, and historical riddles. Uh the same style appears consistently from 1981 to now, which implies a long-term planning of long-term planning and or tradition. Um, Hans received letters and cash from these people saying, like, hey, fucking just keep keep it going, you know. Um why some people doubt this is because there's no real organization that's ever been identified as the orphanage, and a real covert group probably wouldn't believe be blowing money on ads in a a university paper.
SPEAKER_01:Um probably a real orphanage wouldn't either. Fuck them kids. We're spending money on these ads instead.
SPEAKER_05:I'm gonna I'm gonna say it right now. Orphanages are stupid.
SPEAKER_01:Fuck it, you know.
SPEAKER_03:Fuck them kids. I feel bad. So this is subtle tra uh transition.
SPEAKER_05:Is it because you had a kid and you didn't adopt?
SPEAKER_03:Yes. No, um, we we live relatively close to to uh Mooseart, the the orphanage over here, and Mooseart, uh, for those of you that don't know don't know, is a uh orphanage in Illinois. And they have this they have yeah, the state. They have this job. Dog, I already did. Thankfully, Matt fucking saved my ass, but there's an episode I did with Lori where I held up a piece of mail that had my fucking address on it.
SPEAKER_01:Um the number of times that we probably all accidentally revealed some sort of identifying information and like a reflection or something. I think about that with my not only on not only my glasses, but this poster up here all the time. Because you can see the reflection of my screen.
SPEAKER_05:I can't read that for sure. Unless somebody's like dance enhance.
SPEAKER_03:Now, what you gotta do is just have a bunch of big old boobies on your screen. So I did that one time.
SPEAKER_05:I did it out. You were like, I got 'em. I got 'em.
SPEAKER_03:They'll never know. Um, anyways. We have real rule small tangent about orphanages. We live by one, Mooseheart, and they have a giant field. Uh they they have like farm fields. And uh, I feel bad making the joke, but I always do that the orphanages, uh, the orphans have to earn their stay at the orphanage by just working them farm fields. And and Lori doesn't appreciate the joke, and it's very bad, but I still think it's there's something there.
SPEAKER_01:You'll figure it out.
SPEAKER_03:There's there's something there. That's all I got. That's all I got.
SPEAKER_05:Theory too. Uh, this is just an elaborate, long-running performance art project. Uh, the theory says that one or more eccentric intellectuals created this massive multi-decade art piece exploring chaos, religion, mathematics, and global politics. Why people believe it is because the ads often have an artistic structure. Um Arizona Daily Why why people white people believe it because um white people believe it because um I don't know, just it kind of just like flowed off the tongue there. Um, but the Arizona Daily Wildcat is a student paper. Um, it's a strange but perfect place for surrealistic art. And the tone is sometimes playful, not super operational. Um, but why people doubt it is because the level of effort, money, and continuity is kind of extreme for a dedicated artist, and the letters and quote unquote packages that are sent to Hans don't feel like a performance art thing, they feel uh more directed and like kind of personal to him to keep things going. Um the next theory says that it's a single eccentric genius or maybe a professor at the university. Um, just uh what the the theory says is that just one person, possibly a polymith with a deep knowledge of philosophy, math, and theology is behind everything. Um, why people might believe this is because the style of ads is unusually consistent. Some research researchers think that writing and some uh resembles like an older conservative like religious academic, and the University of Arizona has several connections to the ads, the timing, the themes, and the insider references. But why people might doubt this is because the ads span over decades. Um, maintaining it every year without fail seems unlikely unless it's a lifelong obsession. And some of the interactions that have been had with hands suggest multiple people and not just a single writer. Um, the next theory is that it's a communication system for an extremist or friend group. Um, as I go through these theories, they're gonna get a little bit more absurd as they go. Um, you'll kind of see that. Um, so basically, what this theory says is that the ads might be coded operations for a political cult, a religious separatist group, a survivalist anti-government organization, or a money laundering shell network. Um, the biblical apocalypse uh is in a lot of the ads, and you see that in the themes quite a bit. So that's like one of the reasons why people think this. Um other reasons are that the ads are very heavy with the uh like judgment, anti-corruption themes, and military references. Um, there's lots of references to war and coups and intelligence events. Um, but why they doubt it is because legit extremists or paramilitary groups generally do not use college newspapers to communicate.
SPEAKER_03:Um there are extensive research and knowledge we discovered this this couldn't be the Illuminati. Because they don't care about the Daily Wildcat.
SPEAKER_05:We got uh we got three more, and then this next one is actually this next one is actually probably fairly accurate in our line of research. But um, it's a puzzle or an ARG that started before ARGs existed, so it wasn't quite an ARG that we know and love today. Um, but it's an early ARG, uh just ahead of its time, essentially. Um, a big puzzle without a why are they still doing it though?
SPEAKER_01:That's the thing.
SPEAKER_05:Um well here's the thing people believe it because there's lots of clues, hidden layered ciphers, external references, um, there's ads encouraging and uh decoding and keys and all this shit. But why people doubt it is because there's really no finale, there's no escalation, no payoff. They usually have a narrative, and it was launched in 1981 and is still going today. So it's very, very unlikely that this is just a game that people were trying to play with people that lasted fucking 45 years, you know.
SPEAKER_01:Like you said, there would be a payoff, like somebody would solve something, and then nobody's gonna keep playing a game where nobody's making any progress, right?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um the last the last represent I represent the Lollipop Guild. Yeah, I represent the estate of uh uh John Smith. Um to you, his son, he has left the let me just look at this. May Day Mystery. Um he says in order to keep his will, you have to keep doing this. Um there you go. Just drop some crypto shit every once a year and call it a day.
SPEAKER_01:Something I'm curious about is like, is this a big part? Is this a big thing at Arizona University or University of Arizona or whatever? Like, are do a bunch of people be like every May Day they check the Wildcat to see what this post is?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, is this popular?
SPEAKER_01:Because if it is, I could see that like maybe some weird professor dude or something started doing this way back in the day, and then when they got tired of it. Well, when they got tired of it, they just pass it on to somebody else, and somebody on the faculty or something keeps doing this just to maintain the tradition, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03:Uh every algebra teacher has done this for the last 40 years. Right. Now it's your turn.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, something like that.
SPEAKER_05:It's kind of funny. I actually sort of touch on that. So the the next theory is that it's an occult or just like something more occult or symbolic, I guess. Um they the the theories get a little more vague as we kind of go, but um Theories just says, you know, all these ads contain like ritual symbolism, the cabal, Christian uh mysticism, numer numerology, apocalyptic prophecies, and alchemical metaphors. Um there's just there's just too much stuff going on for it to like probably be any of that, especially in uh an academic paper. Um and the last one is that it's just a hoax that got out of hand. So like maybe it started as a prank, people kept adding to it. It's a college newspaper, it attracts people to it, you know, from the college. Um there's no concrete answers that ever came of it. Um, but the reason why this is weak is because like who who who puts a who does a prank for 40 years?
unknown:Right.
SPEAKER_01:Like, you know, that's what I'm saying. Like, no if it if it is just total bullshit, which that's my theory, is that there's not really anything to solve here. It's just a loose a bunch of loosely connected puzzles. But surely it's been passed down from person to person.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Let's let's get into I guess that's it, folks. That's all, folks. That's the mayday mystery. Let's get into what we think is, I guess, happening. Real or fake. Uh Matt, you're you're going. Real or fake, yeah. Real or fake. This one might be much, actually. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Okay, so let's do real or fake. Real being. This is some larger mystery that warrants solving, and if somebody were to put this together, there would be a significant payoff. Fake being somebody or some multiple bodies are just making shit up and publishing it just to keep people talking about it. Alright. Three, two, one. Fake.
SPEAKER_03:Is rake an option?
unknown:Rake.
SPEAKER_03:No. Well, I guess I asked because like I'll explain, I guess, uh uh in my my reasoning, but if you guys want to talk about what you think is going on here.
SPEAKER_01:Real quick, Doug, we're getting we're getting that sweet, sweet feedback through your headphones.
SPEAKER_05:Sorry, I think I was leaning forward too much.
SPEAKER_01:Go ahead, Mike.
SPEAKER_03:So Oh, I'm starting. Okay. Um I think a little bit of both. Um I have two theories in mind that I think might be happening here. One, I really like the idea of it being like um a something that started as like like a like a teacher or something did it out of fun. Like, hey, I'm gonna put this puzzle in here and see if anyone solves it. And they just kept doing it throughout their like tenure because he was like, Oh, this will be interesting. It's it's it's like the it's the daily crossword, but once a year, you know what I mean? Right. And uh throughout time, um maybe it got relatively popular, or um uh he just enjoyed doing it to the point where he wanted to see it keep going. A lot of a lot of schools have traditions, so it wouldn't, I don't think it would be above this the University of Arizona to have this as his tradition. My fucking high school had like a tradition where um like uh uh once a year, I for I forget the day specifically, but um the seniors would uh all at the same time leave their their class and take their their homework that they had on them and just throw it up in the air and run away and just leave for the day. And senior skip day was a thing too.
SPEAKER_01:And like this weapon that day, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But like so, schools have a tradition that keep going throughout the years. Um and so it would not be, I don't think it would be above this school to have this as a tradition, even if it was like just one person passing on to another, it's still a tradition. You know what I mean? Every generation there's another autistic kid that'll probably look at this and be like, I'll keep that shit going. That looks fun as hell. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_05:And come up with their own puzzles, their own clues that have no meaning or anything to them, but the fact that they're there the person that started it is passing it down because like it sounds like you're thinking that like someone is just grabbing it and going with what started.
SPEAKER_03:I think I think someone made it, passed it down, and was like, I want you to do this until you feel tired of doing it, and then find someone to replace you. And I think that has just been happening. It's similar to like um with me, I I follow the the a little thing into my life when it comes to I play Magic the Gathering. Doug, you know this. Matt, I guess you know it too. But um I was taught by my friend Tyler, and my friend Tyler, when he taught me, he was like, Hey, you're doing really good, really proud of you for learning how to play the game. I'm gonna give you this deck, it's my favorite deck. Here you go. And he gave it to me, and he's like, I'm doing this because the person that taught me gave me their favorite deck, so I'm giving you my favorite deck to keep that going. And then I helped teach our buddy Ben how to play, and I gave him my favorite deck. And I it's it's a tradition, it's just a one-person tradition, but it's still it still went on. I doubt Ben will do that, but it was still a tradition that I kept going, and I bet that's what's happening here is it was just one guy that made a weird puzzle and he's passing it down to another freaky ass dude that likes puzzles, who's gonna pass it down to another freaky ass person that likes puzzles, and they just gotta keep a common theme. Yeah, freaky ass. And they just keep a common theme going.
SPEAKER_05:I semi-agree to a degree of what you're saying. I don't know if it's as I I I feel like the way you're making it sound is that it's being passed down a lot more than it probably is.
SPEAKER_03:I feel like it's probably passed out like once every like five, ten years or so, something like that.
SPEAKER_01:I think that's what I think. If it's not faculty or something, it's like it could be a Greek life thing, right? Some new recruit into a fraternity is designated as being the person who posts this year's May Day thing.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. Yeah. That's a good one. That's very fair. I was I was kind of thinking about the whole Greek life thing because they definitely that that probe comes up a lot in their their puzzles.
SPEAKER_03:Um my last little one was just I I doubt this is it. I don't think this is it, but I I like to think this is it, where this whole thing leads to like a treasure, kind of like a pirate. Like this is the pirate's map. And if you crack everything, yeah, this is one I Willy's map. And if you crack it, there's a reward at the end. I don't think it's a secret society, I don't think it's any of that. But if you crack everything and you do everything right, there's some form of reward for you. Um, whether it be monetary or not, I like to think that it's a very valuable reward for all the time you've spent on this. I mean I doubt that's it. I don't think it is, but I like to imagine like the fantasy of me is like that'd be really cool.
SPEAKER_01:They've been doing this for 50 fucking years. You it's not inconceivable that if they spent, you know, let's say an ad cost$7500. And you know if they've taken an equivalent amount of money and stashed it up over time as a reward. I don't know. Maybe.
SPEAKER_03:That's what I'm saying. Ah you if you solve these puzzles, you get whatever's left of my 401k that's been accumulating since 1981.
SPEAKER_01:Like the remainder of my pension from the university.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Man you get my the legal uh the legalities of that would be a nightmare but right you get my Microsoft stock that I bought in 1982. Yeah I don't know I I there I mean as with anything we do there's a piece of me that goes man I really hope there's some like underlying crazy thing that we can find out by solving all of these puzzles but the thing that I think takes me out of the like realness of it is the uh is the fact that we've had a puzzle every fucking year. Like if there was something really important to tell why why you know why would there be a puzzle uh you know every year.
SPEAKER_03:Matt looks like a man who has something funny to say was it was it my burp in the middle of the fucking message. Oh okay oh he got the orphanage yeah he got a message from the orphanage there I got a post next year's May Day.
SPEAKER_05:Nice. You're fucked but that's nice. Hey you're white and uh uh autistic enough here you go why white people believe it why every time you said that that's all I could hear you say yeah that's that's fair you said wow enough times to where it just became white sorry wow yeah no the I all I gotta say is I feel like they've posted too many puzzles to where it's lost its like I think if there was something to it somebody would have figured something significant out by now you say that but then we have cicada fucking things like that.
SPEAKER_01:People figured that out and then they got silenced or allegedly they got murdered yeah well that's the that's either they got silenced or they they ascended to the next tier or whatever. But some people there were actually solutions to that that's the thing. Yeah there's no concrete solution to any of this yeah that's fair.
SPEAKER_03:I don't I don't know that that well that's why I think maybe it's like a treasure map type of deal you have to solve these puzzles I'm not just gonna give you the treasure you gotta you gotta work for it baby. But I don't know I I I I think it's probably just a I really like what you guys brought up where it's just like a frat house hey new guy you have to do this for a year.
SPEAKER_01:I think that is I think that's probably what it is that makes it probably like a really nerdy frat house too where they're like a bunch of fucking like this is their version of hazing yeah puzzle stupid ass you'll have to create hello new kitten you have to create the next Alpha Gabba Sigma Pie polka Mayday would be right around graduation so it would be it could either be like you have to make it at the beginning of the year or it could be like maybe somebody like it could be seniors graduating like yeah that's their send off is a Mayday thing.
SPEAKER_05:What let me confuse you a little bit I yeah that I think that is probably the best although that doesn't explain the packages and whatnot that the guy receives but I mean he could who knows he could be faking it too who the fuck it could just be the fucking frat just being like yo dude keep keep on keeping on brother man also for all we know this was made by Brian and after Brian after 30 years he's just like he could actually just be a nut job yeah saying you're not a part of it is sounds like something someone who is a part of it exactly because here's the thing we've seen weird shit like this with fucking um um yay video games where they just gobbledygook and then everyone's like oh this is a lot of deep meaning and turns out it was just a person with like mental issues like who knows you know like who who the fuck knows yeah so looking at their University of Arizona website calendar and maybe maybe the school's doing it to kind of attempt to bolster sales of the paper to bring in revenue because think about it you hire on one guy and their whole job hey you have to create a puzzle one time a year it's gotta be really hard and it's gotta have these themes in it.
SPEAKER_03:That's your job and it's gonna bring in a million dollars a year because people are gonna be buying the paper trying to crack this puzzle. It might just be a fucking I don't think it's gonna be that much profit system.
SPEAKER_01:My dad's like two hours away from the school maybe I can get a copy on uh May 4th or whatever the fuck posted online anyway but so I want a physical copy send your dad graduation at University of Arizona is May 16th and finals week is from May 8th to May 14th so May 1st would be right on the last day of classes or the last week of classes so it would make sense if it was like a a ritual yeah this is your send off goodbye yeah we've cracked it guys we've we nailed it I think we have and that would explain why a lot of the uh the puzzles like the smiley face guy where everyone's like oh it's a key it keeps changing just because it's an it's it's a new person making it yeah that's yeah it could be a key in some it's just loosely it's it could just be loose rules that are passed down and the next person just looks at all the puzzles and just just like figures out some trends and just like makes up something that is loosely correlated in some way. Because like what you cracked it what you were saying earlier is if if it was some mysterious organization sending these things or but purchasing these things in the in the paper there would be some record somewhere that somebody would have been able to find of who purchased the first ones yeah I mean shit the the the he he receives mail and a lot of times that has I mean it not all the time but it has like a sender address on it you know it just the only thing you can you can know from that is well there's a return address but the return address can literally be anything the only thing you'd be able to know would be the post off it was office it was sent from yeah and you can you could probably go from there you know if you really wanted to you could use that university return address in Phoenix right I mean Phoenix is huge if it was sent if it's sent from just a a post office in Phoenix it's it's gonna be that's not gonna help you narrow it down a whole lot Tucson it's in Tucson but still that's Tucson's pretty big Tucson Tucsons two sons two two sons um two I guess I don't know but does a PO box does if if it's like sent from a specific like if the return address is a specific uh uh like UPS site can you figure that out you can literally put whatever you want oh that came from this building when you ship something you can literally put whatever you want as the return address it doesn't matter it's just an arbitrary you literally don't even have to put one you can ship something with no return address and if it gets lost and or they return it it just it's just lost they just yeah it ends up in one of those auction things probably gotcha damn all right well that went nowhere um that's it good talk boys that's it yep we did it that's the Mayday may uh that's the Mayday mystery the Mayday parade um boy howdy would I like to use this time to be like send us an email delutypod at gmail.com go follow our socials it is uh we're we're either Deludypot everywhere or don't look under the internet uh deluty patreon.com slash dilutypod you can go go go give us money um it's Christmas so you can give us the gift of your money there you go uh that's all I really got uh website diluty.com boom there it is too Doug what do you got shit I made an Andy Dick joke last time uh not sure who to make fun of this time how can both of you date us right now um slap peans against beans there you go can't go wrong with that generic outro there you go Matt what do you got uh the Indianapolis Colts are bringing back our 44 year old retired Phillip Rivers to play quarterback for them this weekend by the time this episode comes out it'll be uh we'll see see how poorly that went but it'll be interesting that sounds like a bad idea yeah yeah this wasn't supposed to be a whole discussion this was supposed to be my news story oh yeah you're right you're right all right we're done now bye everybody love you to be a little bit more than a lot of
