DLUTI 243 - Tapes I Found at the Thrift Store

This week we check out a man's VHS collection as we dive into this Analog Horror turned ARG.

Transcript

Cold Open And Host Banter

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Don't look under the internet.

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Um, hello everybody, welcome to Don't Look Under the Internet. Internet's favorite. Yeah, no, don't listen. No, you listen to me. You listen to good. Or the Internet's favorite horror comedy podcast that talks almost exclusively about coffee pots and old diner style coffee pots that Matt enjoys. Speaking of Matt's, that's him right there.

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Hello. If you can hear my neighbor's lawnmower, file a formal complaint to P.O. Buck 679.

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No, nothing else. Just that. That's it.

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Someone will get it. Yeah. And that's Jason up there, too. Hello, I'm barely here. Hello, I'm barely. That's my name. And I'm here. I've said this but once I'll say it again because I did it to Laurie before. You can come up with the greatest game show name if you just have the first name is a one-syllable name, and the last name starts ends with a Y. So like hi, my name is Bill Buckley. Yeah, my name is Puck Flabby. My name is Dick Furley. Like anything that if it ends in like a L Y or a Y and it's a one-syllable first name, it's the perfect game show host name. Hi, I'm yeah. I'm Carl, Carl Fumbly. Craig Dickley. Craig Dickley here. Yeah. It just works. It just works so good. Welcome to Hollywood Squares. Hi, I'm Tub Thumpy. He takes a whiskey drink.

Patreon Shoutouts And Merch Pitch

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Well, welcome everybody. Welcome, welcome. I'm gonna start us off with a little bit of a dilutie. Housekeeping. Uh, not a whole lot of housekeeping today. I do just want to give a shout out to our new patron. Uh, we're gonna play the classic game Name. Is it one? And with this game, we have Tyler Rhodes. Now, Tyler, you lost the game, and here's why. The rules of the game is it can't be your real name. If you use your real name, Tyler. Okay, to be fair, we don't know if that is his real name. That's true. He it could be a Craig situation. I'm assuming it is, though, because they included the last name. So, Tyler, thank you for the ten dollars and thank you for your support. But now, legally, we have to give you a new name. So, what do we think, guys? Should we just call him Tub Thumpy?

SPEAKER_01 2:56

Tub Thumpy. What's his name again?

SPEAKER_00 2:59

Uh Tyler Rhodes.

SPEAKER_01 3:00

Tyler Rhodesley.

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Tyler Rhodesley. Ty Rhodesley.

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Ty Rhodesley. There it is. The game show host of the night.

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You have to change your name to Ty Rhodesley now. I'm sorry.

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That's just how it goes. Otherwise, you'll go to jail.

SPEAKER_00 3:14

Straight to jail. We'll sue you. Uh that can happen in this wild west of an America we have nowadays.

SPEAKER_01 3:18

Um sue whoever you want. Uh people just changing their genders, willy-nilly.

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Changing their patron names, and uh turning the frogs game.

SPEAKER_04 3:29

Willy nilly is another game show. This is high roads.

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Willy nilly is from uh yeah, it's from Pyramid. Um wants to be a Willionaire.

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Okay.

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Beautiful. Um the only other thing I'll shout I'll I'll do a shout-out of is um just again our Patreon. If you want to support the channel and see some bonus content, we have a bonus up now. I think two because my video gameplay, and we have another one, and then I think we have another one coming out at the end of the month, if I'm not mistaken.

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We have two things that I am going to upload in the next week.

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Oh, cool. But expect like three fucking extra bonus things a month at our uh Patreon. Uh expect put in a quote expect an amount, and if you don't get that amount, we will make it up the next month. So you get an amount. You get three, sometimes it'll be two, but then the next month you get four, so it evens itself out. It happens sometimes. Um, but that's not the point. Uh also, I just want to shout out to our merch, go buy some merch if you want. We're coming up on the 4th of July, so you know what that means.

SPEAKER_04 4:40

It's time to buy more merch.

SPEAKER_00 4:42

A lot of yeah, a lot of people get that day off, so you can spend that day shopping our merch site.

SPEAKER_01 4:45

Um it's prime day. It's prime day that has nothing to do with us at all, but it's prime time to get our merch. Prime time to spend money, right?

SPEAKER_00 4:54

Mm-hmm. Why not? Yeah. We're more worth it than Jeff Bezos. Oh god, yeah. He said that people should stop drinking so much water so they can have data centers have the water instead. So that's fun.

SPEAKER_04 5:09

Yeah, give your drinking water to circuit boards.

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Yeah. Anyway, that concludes house keeping. Boys,

Thrifting DVDs To Escape Subscriptions

SPEAKER_00 5:19

boys, I am a thrifty little bitch lately. I go to the thrift store, and this is this is actually true. This is actually true. I've been going to the thrift store. No. Um, okay. No, I have like no money in my pocket. Uh, if you have money, please give it to me to put in my pocket. That'd be great. But I do actively go um once a week, I go every Monday, I go to the thrift store because I'm trying to build out my DVD collection. Um, because I'm noticing that everything and anything on the face of the planet is like a subscription now, and I'm tired of that. So I just want to be able to pop in. Yeah, exactly. And I find that bullshit. So I've been going to the thrift store. I have a DVD, I got a Blu-ray and a DVD player. So I've been going to the thrift store and I'll just go there, I'll just find some random movies, and I'll just buy them. You know, I can get like five movies for like 10 bucks. Why the fuck not? Sometimes I'll come across VHS tapes. I'll buy those two for the nostalgic purpose. Um it seems like I'm not the only one that's going to the thrift store and getting some tapes if you catch my drift.

Channel Setup And Why It Matters

SPEAKER_00 6:28

For today, my young man, we're talking about a YouTube channel called I'm seeing gnomes.

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Did you just pull a bait and switch on us?

SPEAKER_00 6:43

You really did.

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Damn it. Now I gotta open a whole bunch of. No, no, no, no. No, no, no.

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We'll do we'll do tapes I found the thrift store. Spoiler for next week, everyone. Spoiler for next week. No, I want to get the good one done first because it's gnome related. Yeah, it's gnome related. I want to do the good one first. So hang out for next week. It's gonna be fun. But uh, we're talking about tapes I found at the thrift store. Uh, and you can find this on YouTube. It is at tapes I found at the thrift store, or you can just look up the tapes I found at the thrift store as well. Now, on face value, this looks like a nothing channel. It's got four videos here, um, but there's a little bit more to it than that. To the point where even Mr. Nightmine ha covered this. Um we may botch a couple things here because I'm gonna be honest, I think there's some stuff here that I'm missing, and we'll find out as we go. But I think this is a bit more of a fascinating uh uh story than than what what it what it what it comes out looking like. I think there's more to it than meets the eye, like a transformer, if you will. Um so I say we dive into this bad boy, and let's start and where do we start, if not the beginning?

Estate Sale Tape And The Suitcase

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Matthew.

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If not, I believe. Listen here. The first video in this sequence of videos is called Estate Sale. And we start off Okay, so like Mike said, this is a YouTube channel called Tapes I Found at the Thrift Store. And the it's got a short little description. It says, Hi, my name's Ben, and I'm a collector. My hobby began back in high school when I got into collecting Magic the Gathering cards, and now I collect all sorts of things. I've recently been working on a VHS tape collection, which I'm very proud of, but I didn't get around to buying an actual VCR until recently. They're pretty hard to come by, surprisingly. This channel serves as an archive for the standout tapes that I particularly enjoy. I've found recently that life flies by much too fast, and I hope this collection of once lost home videos will help you cherish the little moments in your life. So the first video from this boy's VHS collection is called Estate Sale. And Estate Sale starts off with a very early 90s slash late 80s looking news desk situation.

SPEAKER_00 9:13

It's like a high school like morning announcement thing, right?

SPEAKER_01 9:17

Yeah, that's 100% the aesthetic here. It's uh a lady in a purple jacket and like a like the perfect shade of ocean blue background. Um, but we learn all about a man named Arthur Langan. Now, the this woman's telling us about a name, a man named Arthur Langan. And this man, Arthur Langan, well, boy, he done did himself in. So he killed himself. He suicided, he's sewer slided, as the kids used to say. Um but anyway, some people are really upset about it, and apparently some people are so happy they're literally throwing parties in the street. But who cares about that because they're selling all this guy's shit. Just selling just selling all of his shit. So we found out that there's an estate sale, and then uh there's that there's actually like this little bit where she fucks up the line and has to repeat it, and that comes back again later. But anyway, we're introduced to a man named Ronald Gopher who's gonna tell us uh all the kind of shit that this guy had. And it turns out that this guy had some crazy shit. So Ronald here is an estate liquidator, and we find out that Arthur, the guy who done did himself, is was a bit of a hoarder. He had a bunch of weird old stuff. He had some old film equipment, which is on brand for the channel, lots of tapes and old reels that have interesting home videos on them. They don't know what they are, they don't take any liability for what's on them. They will sell them to you, though. There's some maps, there's some paintings, there's a popcorn machine that Mr. Gopher is very upset doesn't work, and then there's some books with some questionable titles. Now, the coup de gras is an old suitcase. Now, this suitcase is it's a it's kind of creepy looking. It's like a brown suitcase that almost looks like it has veins. Uh it's made from bowling ball. Made from bowling ball. That's a good way to put it. And he's also got a top hat that it's already that has already been sold, and then some dolls. Just like creepy fucking dolls.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

I like the interviews that they do with some of the people. Are you gonna mention those at all?

SPEAKER_01 11:47

I'm getting there. Okay, and so he's talking about these dolls, and then he's and then all of a sudden Mr. Gover's like, these dolls probably have the souls of all the kids he was kidnapping in them, and then the audio cuts out, and we get thrown back to the news desk, and this lady's like, uh anyway. Here's some interviews with people that are buying this shit. And so one guy talks about how he really wanted the top hat, but they wouldn't come down on the price, and it was just exorbitantly priced. And then the next guy we talked to bought the fucking top hat.

SPEAKER_04 12:22

My boy Larry Columbo is wearing fuck yeah, Larry Colombo is wearing overalls and a flannel and a top hat.

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Larry Columbo has has bought the top hat and is currently wearing it, and he remarks how cheap it was.

SPEAKER_00 12:35

But anyway, he's also just like, I'm not even a hat guy, but yeah, he's like, I'm trying something new.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

I don't even care who the fuck's top hat this was. This is just it's my top hat now, and that's what matters to me. Now, Randy Sinclair, this man, old Randy here, tells us that he doesn't know why anybody would buy anything from this estate sale, because literally anything that's in there belong to the devil because Arthur was the devil, and you're just inviting evil into your home. Anyhow, he bought the suitcase.

SPEAKER_00 13:07

So didn't you buy something?

SPEAKER_01 13:10

It's just like uh so then we get like a brief clip of the news lady getting yelled at for saying gopher wrong because she keeps saying gophers, because I think she just can't believe that this guy's name is Arthur is is uh Ronald Gopher. Ronald Gopher, which is uh completely understandable, honestly. Yeah, I but then I wouldn't deliver that pizza. But then the analog horror happens, and there's a glitch, and we get a tape, more tape, and we find out when this at least this tape is happening, but this presumably dates the entire experience of this video. Um November 7th, 1986. So we are looking at the suitcase, and it's on a table in a man's basement, and it is Mr. Sinclair himself, Randy Sinclair. He's got the the fucking suitcase in his basement, and he's drawn a circle around it in blood. This is confirmed later that it's actually his blood, and then he threw some candles down, and then he's talking about how like he's tried this thing, whatever this thing is that he's done, like 12 times, and it's just not fucking working. So he puts the camera down and he pulls out some papers and he starts reciting some demonic shit. He says, uh, like Calamar, Zazubat, Omdilium, something, something, something.

SPEAKER_00 14:36

I say, don't say it all out loud. This is how Evil Dead starts.

SPEAKER_01 14:39

Yeah. So then he says, if anyone's in this room with me, please offer me a sign. Please blow out the candle in the corner. And then nothing gets happened, and he like gets real mad and throws a tantrum, and his dog starts barking, so he storms off, and after he leaves is when shit gets real. So the candle goes out, and then after the candle goes out, what I can only describe as the hat man comes out of the case. So presumably this is Arthur, maybe, or something, but it he is the hat man. It's it's a shadowy figure with a top hat, and he starts whispering some creepy shit. What he says is a complete mystery to me because I can't understand it, and the closed captions are absolutely no help. So the screen goes completely black, and then Randy Sinclair comes back and he starts talking to the camera and he starts saying that he's not sure what he's doing wrong, and he thinks he's gonna lose all of his blood before he finally gets it right. And while he's sitting there, he hears a bang and he stands up, and his dog starts like losing his fucking mind and sounding like it's really hurt. So he picks up the camera and he rushes upstairs and he sees no dog, but he starts to open a door and then he hears something, so he turns around behind him, and the hat man is like in a closet, creeping at him from a crack door, and the hat man blows out the light in the closet. So he takes off and he runs outside of his house and he leaves the door open. And then the hat man he looks back at the house, and I guess the hat man closes the door because the door closes on its own. So he's like standing underneath a light outside his house, and all of a sudden the light goes out, and he's like crying to himself and like begging for forgiveness for I guess summoning this thing. And then yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:42

So then he like runs off Batman.

SPEAKER_01 16:45

He like runs off into the woods and everything goes completely dark, and then when you hear his voice again, it sounds like he's in like a chamber and he's like keeps saying hello, but it's like really, really echoey. So he pulls out a lighter to try to see where he is, and he lights it up, and you can kind of see like a wooden platform underneath his feet, but the light keeps going out, so he keeps lighting it. And on about the fifth one, you can see the hat man's shoes, and he's like staring down at him, and the light goes out again, and then he lights it up again, and he's looking at the hat man like right in the face, and then I guess he gets killed. The camera falls to the ground, and then uh you can see the c the suitcase, and then the hat man picks up the suitcase and walks off with it. So I guess it's maybe like he's collecting the souls of the people that he's attacking in the case. Putting them in the suitcase.

SPEAKER_00 17:42

I took it as him just wanting to get his stuff back.

SPEAKER_01 17:46

I took it as him trapping people with this case. Like people are are fucking around with the case, and then whenever they do, he shows up and he's like, Gotcha, bitch.

SPEAKER_04 17:57

Because apparently there's a ritual attached to it, right? Clearly. Yeah, when he was doing that, I do want to say if you when he is like freaking out and angry, he sits down for a second, and you can see like somebody moving behind his HVAC system.

SPEAKER_00 18:11

You can see the hat man.

SPEAKER_04 18:12

It's a you can see his hat just it's very subtle, yeah. Yeah, it's there, it's very fun.

SPEAKER_00 18:17

But yeah, the it's very good. Like they nailed the aesthetic, I I think, like right off the bat. I think it starts off, it starts off like I thought this was gonna go a Greensboro route because I thought it was gonna be a little comedic, but it doesn't really go that way. But this is like it's very good. It starts off like very wholesome, like very just like funny. Uh, like people doing like like like this is just a couple of friends filming skits because they think it's fun, and then the analog horror kicks in, it's like, oh, this is actually good, like something's happening here.

SPEAKER_01 18:49

The aesthetics on point, even like the aesthetic of the house is very good, I think.

SPEAKER_04 18:54

Like it's to me, it reminded me of uh this house has people in it, not from like content point of view, but from like how it was filmed and done production-wise, it's very similar to that.

SPEAKER_01 19:04

They do a very good job of not accidentally filming anything that would like ruin your immersion of it being in the time period that it's in, and like the house is very wood, so it makes it look very of the time, yeah. Yeah, so that's on a state sale.

Ben Appears And The Purple Goo

SPEAKER_01 19:24

The next video is called Hi, I'm Ben. But before I cover that video, there is a posts section of the YouTube channel, and so the there's a post all the way down in the post section that's very relevant to what we're about to witness. So uh the post is somewhat lengthy, but it starts off with Hi everyone, it's been to my great surprise, I've accumulated over 800 scribe subscribers here on this channel in only a couple of weeks. So I wanted to pop on and give a quick thank you to all of my new friends. It was really great getting to speak with you all in the comments, and I'm looking forward to having more insightful conversations with everyone in the future. You guys rock. So he go he talks a bit about a VHS that he shoves into a VCR that uh he got, and uh he goes over this in the next video, but the tape exploded into like a goo. He calls it chocolate, but this fucking VCR is just completely caked up with with Jism. It's like a purple Barney's come. Yeah. Sure.

SPEAKER_00 20:40

We'll go with that. I love you.

SPEAKER_01 20:44

Oh god, me but anyhow, yeah, there's a lot more to this post, but anyway, that's kind of what he's got going on here. So the next video is called Hi, I'm Ben, and we get to meet Ben this Ben Man himself. So he is kind of just explaining a little bit of the background of what's going on here. He talks about how he gets these tapes from thrift stores or flea markets or wherever, and he is from near the Pine Barrens in Jersey. Now, if you've been listening to Cryptid Corner, like you should be, you would know that the Pine Barrens is where all sorts of cryptid things be coming from, notably the Jersey Devil. He addresses this a bit in this video. He talks about the area of New Jersey that he's from, has a bunch of weird shit that's associated with it. Cryptids like alien sightings and stuff like that. And then he talks about his VCR that exploded into a purple goo. He take he says that he took it and he buried it. And he was like, This seems like the best way to get rid of it, because I was afraid if I threw it in the trash, somebody would arrest me.

unknown 21:59

Which

SPEAKER_01 22:00

I don't think anybody's actually policing the things you're throwing away, but sure, man. Um and then he went back and tr uh I guess people got upset with him because he buried the tape and he was like, Well, I guess I'll go back and get it and like try to dispose of it properly or something. And he goes back and discovers that the chocolatey oozy purple substance is gone. The reels from the tape are still there, but it looks like some somebody or something has dug up the tape and made off with the Uzi substance.

SPEAKER_00 22:34

He named it too. Blabert Pattinson.

SPEAKER_01 22:36

Blabert Pattinson. Yes. Blabert Pattinson. And so he but then he's like, I hope a raccoon or a deer didn't fucking eat it and now it's got like mega cancer or something.

SPEAKER_00 22:50

Yeah, he's very the things he's concerned about is that.

SPEAKER_01 22:53

He's very upset about that too. Yeah. Okay, man. One raccoon dug into your oozy substance and it'll be okay.

SPEAKER_00 22:59

Yeah. He was like, I I hope it I gave it like superpowers or something and not like mega cancer. I'm like, why is that the two places your brain went to? And not just maybe an animal just vomiting profusely in the forest because it ate this thing. Or it just did eat it because it's purple goo. And why would an animal eat purple goo? Except Orioles. Because they eat jelly. Sure.

SPEAKER_04 23:26

I feel like I've learned so much. Sure man.

SPEAKER_01 23:31

You heard it here first. Orioles eat goo. And finches. And that's how I am Ben. That was Ben. Ben is a man. Ben is a man with a dragon. Bad haircut. He's a goo man. Sorry, no man, but you gotta get a better hair again than a man.

SPEAKER_00 23:52

Yeah, fix that shit, dog.

SPEAKER_04 23:55

It is a very New Jersey hairstyle, I will say that.

SPEAKER_00 23:59

Real I'm fucking walking here energy. Well, dang.

SPEAKER_04 24:05

Jason, I think you have the next couple years. I I am. I've I've got the next

Carlisle Goes Missing

SPEAKER_04 24:10

two. Um, the next one we're gonna go on to is a video called Important. Please help. But before I get there, um if we go back to the posts, you'll see that uh Ben says basically says, I had a wonderful holiday this past week. I know for sure, uh, I know I sure did. Or I'm sorry, I hope everyone had a wonderful holiday. I hope I know I sure did. I've got a lot that I want to update you on, so I'm gonna do record a little face reveal video to post either tomorrow or Thursday. That'll be nice to put a face to the name for everyone I've been interacting with in the comments, and that would allow me to verbally, sorry, two to verbally update anyone on what I've got going on rather than typing it out two birds, one stone. That's all I've got for tonight. Just wanted to pop in, say hi, have an important save the important stuff for my next upload. And so we get important please help. And in this one, we get exactly what we were promised. We get a face reveal from Ben. Um, and he is so after you after this is directly after the high, I'm Ben. So I'm sorry, that post took place uh before the high I'm Ben. The important please help one. I apologize. Um in between, he uh he starts talking about how he's gonna talk with Carlisle. He said he'll be taking a look at the VCR tonight. He's gonna text me tomorrow with his diagnosis, and we should have an estimated fixed date from there. Hopefully, it'll be short, uh, a short window, but I'll let you guys know what he says tomorrow when I hear back. Um, we get another post saying, I haven't heard anything from Carlisle today. I texted him around seven, but my message is still undelivered. Just wanted to keep you on the loop. I'll make a post when I hear back from him. Um and lastly, uh, we get another one saying, I'm sorry, I haven't done a great job at responding to everyone's comments lately, as you can probably imagine. It's been a rough week for me. I'll try to do better moving forward. I'll also keep you all updated on anything I hear about Carlisle. Um, we also, along with this, get a video, the one I'm talking about, Important Please Help, where it shows Ben in a car, and he's talking about how uh Carlisle has gone missing, and um, they're really not sure uh what was happening. He was supposed to be making a post about this, but he thought he would just do a video just to get it out of the way. So Carlisle is missing for a little while now. Um, apparently he left according on his own accord, so the police can't really do much about that. Did he leave because his parents named him Carlisle? I would probably I would. Um so he posts a picture uh and it shows this uh this guy says he's about 24 years old, he's got brown hair, um, and it posts a phone number on the bottom. I haven't really been able to find like find much on this phone number or what it ties into. I'm sure it has a purpose in this whole story, experience, whatever it turns out to be. Um, but they say if you're in the New Jersey area, please call this number with any tips that you might have for it for us um so that we can relay that to his family. Um more of a description, and then he's basically goes on to say, like Carlisle, if you're seeing this, just reach out to anybody. We've we're looking for you. Um and we just we we're really worried about you. We we care about you, please come back. So if you know anyone that can help out, please reach out to me. I'll do my best to share it with the family, and we can hopefully get Carlisle home. And that's the end of the video. It's just like uh an outreach for help because he has no fucking idea where Carlisle went.

SPEAKER_01 27:41

Um it's not a functional phone number because it is a five-five five number.

SPEAKER_04 27:45

I figured as much, but I wasn't sure if there was a way for somebody to like create something like that. So I'm so it I guess it's just kind of a a number to be out there. Um, I do love one of the the comments. Um the top comment in this video says, Carlisle, take off the camouflage hoodie so we can find you, please. But that is the end of this video. The point is just uh basically explain the like the dire situation that Carlisle's in and kind of the frantic mess Ben and Carlisle's family are in um when it comes to finding him, they don't know where he is or anything like that.

SPEAKER_01 28:25

Not gonna lie to you, the first time I saw the picture of Carlisle, I thought Carlisle and Ben were the same person.

SPEAKER_04 28:30

They do look very similar.

SPEAKER_01 28:31

I was like, is that just the same kid with a shorter haircut?

SPEAKER_04 28:35

Yeah, he last time he got his haircut, and then no. Yeah. Um, but that's it. That's it is simply it's a it's a one minute and 42 second video, and it's just outreach for help uh to find Carlisle. Um, the next one, it's a bit longer.

Private Property Tape And The Arrow

SPEAKER_04 28:50

Um, and this one has a lot more substance to it. This one's called Private Property. Now, sorry. Before we get into it, um there is another uh post that uh it's it's it says Mary CRT Miss, uh everyone. Yeah, recruiting. I finally have some good news. My roommates banded together and got me this CRT TV with a built-in VCR for Christmas, and they were nice enough to let me open it a few days early. I'm a man of the arts above all else, so tonight I will be watching only Scoopy Doo Goes to Hollywood, which they also graciously gifted me for my collection. Um, I'm almost positive that is like a a hint or a nod to like kind of what's going on here, because apparently the plot of this movie is semi-similar to what is happening in this whole experience.

SPEAKER_01 29:44

It better be relevant because otherwise there's no excuse to pick Scooby-Doo Goes to Hollywood instead of Zombie Islanders, yeah. Exactly. I agree.

SPEAKER_04 29:52

Or the one. Yeah, yeah. Nobody needs to watch Goes to Hollywood. Um after that, he says, okay, elephant in the room. I still haven't heard from Carlisle, and neither is his family. We greatly appreciate everyone who has called in with tips and helped the search. As soon as I hear anything at all, I will make a post to update you guys ASAP, wherever he is. I hope Carlisle knows how many people are out there rooting for him. You guys rock. Um and then we uh we don't hear anything from him too too much. Um we get another post saying I found a couple interesting tapes last night. They're not quite on the level of the estate sale tape, but they're still weird in their own ways. Who would have guessed that evidence of the paranormal would be so hard to find? I'll watch some more tapes after work tonight, but if I don't find anything super crazy, I'll upload one of these just so you guys have something to enjoy. I'll report back again soon. And then once more, another post says, I don't think I can post this video. I don't think I can even post anymore, period. I never really believed that any of this shit I never really believed any of this shit. I just thought it was fun to pretend I'm not having fun anymore. If someone out there is messing around messing with me, just coming out and say it because this is actually fucked. I know all of you uh down in Alawite have have it out for me. It's been years, and you also look at me like I'm a fucking animal when I walk down Main Street. I know you're all reading this too, because none of you can keep my name out of your damn mouths. Carlisle told me so. If you people never want to see me again, just say the word and I'll never look back. Just tell me it's not real, please. Even if it is, just tell me it's not. I never should have brought bought these damn tapes. We can pretend I never did, if that's what it takes. Just leave, let me leave this shit behind like I should have years ago. Um and then we get another uh another video. Um, and this one again is titled Private Property. Now, like I was saying earlier, there's a lot kind of going on in this video, especially in relation to those posts. You should kind of notice a tone shift. He goes from kind of having fun, posting about Scooby-Doo, and like, yeah, he'll turn up type thing. And now you can tell he's deadly fucking serious. Like he's something happened. And what happened in this, or what he at least what he saw, can probably be found in this tape. So it opens up with uh a timestamp uh labeled January 8th, 1995. Um, I do want to note about halfway through this video, it switches to January 9th, 1995. So I'm assuming this was recorded like late at night, around midnight, unless this actually is like two separate days. But I'll let you guys figure that out for yourselves because it's not really clear at this point. So it shows a bunch of like garages and row houses. Um, everything's covered in snow. And uh it's somebody walking around and they walk up to a sign saying, Notice, um like there's dangerous shit past here. Um, the site is uh something something property. Contractor will not be held responsible for any injury while caused while trespassing, yada yada yada. So he keeps going, keeps going, and he walks up to a house, and when he he sees there's a bunch of footprints through the snow, when he gets to this house, um it's the gnomes. He it's the gnomes, they're here. Um he walks up, walks inside, and he turns his flashlight on because it's absolutely pitch black in this house, and it kind of looks like there's no one here at all. And he's walking around, walking around. He opens notices like an open door to a bathroom. So he walks towards it, and when we see it, we notice like this purple ooze and goo coming out of the faucet, which looks identical to the uh the pile of goo that the V uh the VHS tape either turned into or was all along, whichever one it is, um, coming out of this faucet, and it's it's identical. So he looks at it, and as he's looking at it, he he kind of ducks peeks his head out in the camera out of the bathroom to a he slightly whispers to himself, he whispers to himself something that like there's a lot of like subtle audio things in this too.

SPEAKER_00 34:05

I don't know if even you could catch it, but there's someone in the comments of almost every single video, so I think they're kind of in on it. It's like hi I Mango or something, but they're always posting some little like uh uh like hint or something that people might have missed. And they mentioned that at that point you can hear him say under his breath, oh my god, it looks worse than it did yesterday.

SPEAKER_04 34:29

Worse than yesterday, yes. And so that's it's about halfway through this video that you hear that, and it's so clearly whoever's filming this it knows about this and has been kind of documenting the progress. And so Goo's coming out of the faucet, he goes to leave the bathroom, and as he does, the the door that's like kind of slightly cracked at the end of the hall just swings open, and this like the Grinch figure steps out that looks like he's wearing a like a white and black face mask. Grinch. It does, it's like a it's a black, it's before color was invented, the Grinch. Um steps out of this this doorway and just shocks the shit out of whoever's holding the camera. They turn around, turn their flashlight off and they run out of the house. Um and then this is where it changes from January 8th to January 9th as he's running down the or they are running down this like snow covered street. You hear these air raid sirens going off, um, heavy breathing, uh, footsteps hitting pavements. Um, and we keep it's just pitch black until we get like a shot of uh the woods and the forest. And then this guy starts exploring all these little gnome holes that are all over the place. No. Um he's walking through this forest and you hear dogs barking, you hear the sirens, um, and all of a sudden he's like he stops to catch his breath for a second and gives bearings, and he you hear like this and he looks to his right, and there's an arrow that has just been like shot at this tree. And I'm not gonna lie, it's people in the comments were like, Did you actually shoot a fucking arrow? Dude, that's what it looks and sounded like. Like it's it either the sound editing is so good that I tell the difference, or he somebody actually fired a fucking arrow at this guy while he was in the the woods at night. Like it's it's wild, it's very convincing. That happens, he gets spooked, starts running again, running, running, running. He hears a bunch of noises, a bunch of weird noises. He hears the sirens in the distance, the dogs barking in the distance, and then all of a sudden we get some like deep breathing, and the light clicks on, and we see that whoever's filming has been shot in the chest with an arrow, and they're like struggling with it, struggling with it, and they rip it out of their chest. And at the end of it, we it is it looks like it's coated in this purple goo, just like the shit we found that came out of the VHS player, and just like the stuff that was coming out of uh the faucet in the house earlier. He's a gooey man. The weird part is is there's no blood on the arrow, it's just purple goo. So honestly, I couldn't tell if it was coated with the purple goo beforehand, or if that's what got pulled out of whoever is in this video. Yeah, he's a gooey man, dude. He's a gooey gooey man.

SPEAKER_00 37:28

He also mentions the name Sandy at one point, and I don't know if that's pertinent to the story or not, but people keep commenting that name in other videos too.

SPEAKER_04 37:36

It is, and I'm pretty sure it's gonna tie it. We're gonna get more information about that as more videos come out for sure. But I know Sandy is a name that's been tossed around, and I'm pretty sure you can hear it in one or two of the videos at some point. I didn't really catch it, and I didn't really get a handle on like why I would care about the hit name.

SPEAKER_00 37:53

So I see this like Sandy. If you find this tape, uh don't look for me or some shit. It's don't look for me Sandy.

SPEAKER_01 38:00

I do think it's funny that the top comment on this video though is my guy, I hate to tell you this, but Sandy gave this video to a thripshot.

SPEAKER_04 38:09

All right, um, last thing we see after is uh is this the person falling over, hitting the ground, camera going dark, and that is the end of the private property uh video. Um I think there's isn't there another post tied to this saying, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Um the owner of the channel says the tape is set to premiere at 8 p.m. tonight. I'm gonna take everyone's advice and log off for a while. I'll take that time to level my head and try to get the tape uh to the relevant authorities. I might check in every now and then, but I really just need to step away from this for a while. I've been a bundle of walking anxiety for the better part of a week, and worrying about all of this right now is not helping in any way whatsoever. Thank you all for being so understanding. I'll be back. Good. Um, and then we get kind of a kind of a silence from from Ben for a while. But that is the uh the end of my my last video,

Police Pressure And The Cipher Painting

SPEAKER_04 39:05

private property. A lot of a lot happens, a lot to con uh to kind of digest.

SPEAKER_00 39:11

Yeah, yeah, you had a lot going on there.

SPEAKER_04 39:14

Yeah, it was only a three and a half minute video was what all of that took place in. You have a lot of information though.

SPEAKER_00 39:20

Yeah. I I do want to note before I start with mine, in one of your posts, and I'm gonna bring this up because it gets mentioned again when I go into my shit. But um, in one of yours, when he goes on that rant, he mentions how like uh I I forget exactly what he says, but he's like, I know you're all everybody in town's talking about me, and I know you all hate me, yada yada yada. That kind of comes up later. So keep that in mind. Um but we start off with a post basically uh like a month later, where he's like, Hey everyone, it's been a while since I checked in, but here's here's a quick explanation what's going on. Um, he starts talking about how he's been struggling with his health ever since the private property tape. Um, he had a big conversation with his dad about what he should do. Um, follow with the tape. And his dad's like, Look, you need to give this to the to the police because even if it's just a prank or something, we'd rather be safe than sorry. The worst that happens is the police laugh at you a little bit about a joke tape. Um but he's he's like uh you know, my dad bumped into the chief and mentioned this to him already. So we're setting up a meeting to where I could talk with the chief, give him the tape, do all this stuff. Um, he says, he even says that uh his dad and the chief of police uh grew up together, and his dad assures him that the chief is a stand-up guy who will help him find answers to everything that's been troubling him. Um, hopefully that includes details on this strange purple sludge that has evidently been haunting Loway Creek for decades now. So he's like, So I'm gonna go talk to the chief, I'll update you afterwards, and we'll kind of go from there. Um, with that said, we get another post like a month later. And he says, before anyone asks, I am aware that the private property and estate sale tapes have been removed from the channel. I'll keep you posted on why soon. So that's when we get into our next tape here. It's called Changes. Um Ben here has worked with the police after Carlisle's missing and with the uh the creepy tapes, uh creepy private property tape. It's at this point that he's decided that he's gonna give all those creepy tapes that he's found to the police. He mentions that he's had a good long talk with the chief of police, Mr. Hanover, who was concerned for his health because of these tapes. He also says that he will no longer be posting dark or creepy tapes that he has uh that he has found, and that he has removed private property and estate sale from the channel because of the negative emotions and feelings that they have been giving to him. He says that in the future, he if he finds dark, creepy tapes, he's just gonna hand them right over to the police. This entire time you get a vibe from this, and everyone in the comments section kind of agrees that the chief of police is a little sus. And in the in the video, he's like, Oh yeah, I had a nice, I had a very nice, uh, good talk with the chief of police, and everyone in the comments is like, doesn't sound like that was a good talk for you, buddy. Sounds like a threat. Um he goes on to say that he wants to upload more positive and wholesome tapes that he finds, more of like the family footage or like birthday party tapes, things like that. He wants to be more for archival rather than trying to solve some creepy mystery. And again, he's saying this, he seems fine, but people are like, Yeah, you seem a little shaken up, kind of like he's getting threatened by the police essentially to leave this matter alone with whatever happened at the private private property and the estate sale. People think that he's being threatened and that they don't want him talking about this thing anymore. And he's kind of just you know about that life. So he's like, Yeah, yeah, no, no, this is my idea. Like, I don't want to upload these things anymore.

SPEAKER_04 43:02

You said that in the same voice as this is my United States of whatever. I need you to know that.

SPEAKER_00 43:09

Yeah, yeah. Um so he mentions that um he's been working a lot on his mental health, he's been doing meditation, he's been exercising, he's been reading a lot of Sherlock Holmes books, and he's been doing a lot of painting. And he shows us a painting he's made. There's something odd about this painting. It seems like this painting is a cipher. Man, put it on the screen. Okay, here we go. You don't have to, I don't care. I just wanted to catch you off guard. Um Okay, cool, cool. So it's a cipher. People have figured out that this is a this is called a dancing man painting. And it's uh it's a reference to a Sherlock Holmes story called The Dancing Men. In that story, the dancing men uh Sherlock Holmes comes across a dance a painting with Dancing Men called the Dancing Men painting that has a cipher that Sherlock Holmes has to crack to figure out clues to the puzzle he's trying to solve. And that is what's happening here. Now, unfortunately, it does not seem like this cipher has been fully solved. People have figured out what the strain of letters and numbers are here, but they're not sure what it's supposed to be. Some have speculated that it's a YouTube link, but every time they try to put it in, it doesn't seem to work. Someone got one to kind of kind of work. They put it into like a YouTube link. But everyone's like, it's none meaning none. Um, but one person alluded that this might be a um the end of a URL link to a YouTube Shorts video, because apparently those are different from regular YouTube videos. But when they enter it into a YouTube Shorts uh URL, it just says um like video can't be found. So even that seems like it's a bust. So no one seems to know what this string of numbers or and and letters goes to quite yet. Um so we are finished there for now.

Open Mic Tape And The ARG Trail

SPEAKER_00 45:13

Uh we're gonna move on to our next video, but before that, uh we're gonna have another post here basically saying uh hello everybody. Uh he mentions that he is combing through his his shelf of tapes, trying to find something with like an interesting label. He says he doesn't have much time to be searching through the blank tapes anymore, so he's looking for something with labels on it to make it easier for archiving. And he found one that says for Lauren Michaels, who, if many don't know, Lauren Michaels is basically the guy who runs SNL. He said that the in the next post, he said that the tape addressed to Lauren Michaels is scheduled to upload tonight. Um, it's wild to say the least. Looking forward to everyone in the comments. So the next one is called Open Mic. And we it opens up with a video of a I'm gonna say quote unquote comedian from 1995. It's our boy Larry Columbo. Guess who's back, baby? He's got the hat.

SPEAKER_01 46:10

He's still got that motherfucker. He's still got that motherfucker. You got it cheap, you gotta wear it.

SPEAKER_00 46:16

Ah shit on me, dog. So uh it seems like Larry Columbo's doing stand-up. He's got a mic and he's doing some jokes. He is fucking bombing, dude. He is not doing good. He's basically just doing a bunch of jokes revolving around Jim Carrey references to like movies like um Um The Mask and fucking what's the pet detective one? Uh, thank you, Matthew. Just call it pet detective. Um, I can always count on you. Um, but he's just doing a bunch of a bunch of references to like that. And it's his his bits are just flopping to the point where he's talking about like a mental asylum. He's got floppy bits, he's got floppy bits. He's talking about a mental asylum, and like he's like, Oh, yeah, if only if only it was uh, I bet it's all just like in in Ace Ventura, everyone's just screaming like ha and someone in the audience is like that ain't fucking funny, dude. My sister's in there, and he's like, ugh, tough crowd, and he's just he's just bombing, dog. And then it cuts to another skit of his and it's labeled why I do comedy. And he seems to be at like a banquet or something, doing another like uh like a like a type five, and no one is listening to his routine. Yeah, it's at like a he's at a banquet, it's like he's at like a like a like a charity banquet or something, and he's just stole the mic.

SPEAKER_01 47:48

I'm thinking of that scene in the office where they have like the charity raffle auction thing.

SPEAKER_00 47:55

Yeah, like that. That's it's like he's there. And you hear everyone just talking over him, no one's watching him or listening to him. Like he's just being straight up ignored, and he even mentions shirt buttoned unevenly. He does, maybe that's part of the shtick. But he's got that top hat, don't forget. He got that shit on though. He got his shit, he got that shit on.

SPEAKER_01 48:15

Oh well, he kind of got that shit on though.

SPEAKER_00 48:19

I got that damn, I got that damn, I got that shit on me. I bet that guy's thinking this the same thing. Damn, that dude does not got a shit on him for real. Um, but anyway, so he he even starts mentioning this in the act too. He's straight up just like, yeah, I'm just up here talking, and none of you are paying attention or listening, none of you care. Why am I even up here? And he's getting like very sad about it. He he mentions how he feels like he's wasting his time, but then he notices that one person was paying attention to him, and as they were leaving, he was he as they were leaving, they they ended up leaving, but he was happy he had the opportunity to have a potential to make that one person feel something. Like he he gets very specific. He's like, you know, at least I why do I do this? Because one of you were listening, they may have left, and at least I had an impact of some sort on one of you, and that's enough for me. And then it fades out, and it fades into him doing impressions, yeah. And it fades in him doing impressions, and these are bad impressions, and uh he's like doing like Jack Nicholson's and stuff. He's like, and like Jim Carrey's, he's like, Oh, hello Batman, somebody stop me and shit. It's just really, really bad. Um then you find out in the community post again that this was supposed to be sent to Lorne Michaels, and this is basically this dude's audition tape for SNL. Safe to say, Lord Michaels did not get this tape. Now, here's where things are about to get pretty fucking weird. Um, this is the one.

SPEAKER_01 49:58

I thought everything had been perfectly normal until now.

SPEAKER_00 50:00

This is this is off topic a little bit, but I looked this up and I forgot to mention it when you were done talking, Jason. I looked up on the Scooby-Doo fandom, like the synopsis of Scooby goes Hollywood. I think it's just a meta joke that he put in there because the premise this says is Shaggy convinces Scooby that both of them deserve better than being stars in what he considers a low-class Saturday morning show. They both attempt to pitch a number of potential primetime shows to network executives. So I think maybe this is just a meta joke of him being like, Oh, yeah, absolutely. Maybe I'm better than YouTube, and this is gonna be my way of branching out.

SPEAKER_04 50:34

Yeah, it's I don't know. It's just describing the the video you're talking about right now in a reference to a Scooby-Doo movie on VHS. It's a very obscure, like foreshadowing moment, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:50

But yeah, but um I just want to say the full title of Ace Ventura is Ace Ventura Pet Detective, and so technically I was just as correct as Jason.

SPEAKER_00 51:02

Well, technically, you can eat a dick. How is that one? Technically, more letters, so I did it more efficiently, yeah. So this is where it gets kind of weird in the comments section of the um um the the open mic video, there is a comment from a user named Marshall B. Crafton and it's a Minecraft channel with one video. And if you watch this video, it's basically like a guy and he's like, hey, look at my Minecraft house. And he it's a dude wearing a top hat. Top hat. And he's like, I built my he's like, I built my this this house in the woods with my sister, woods, sister, woods, sister woods, my sister's got wood. My sister's got wood, and he says, and and and and as he's like showing his place off, he's like, I even built a waterfall, but the water is kind of weird, so I don't recommend drinking it. Weird water, thick water, thick water, thick water, and the guy our guy drank it, he's like, it's thick, don't say that thick water, it's weird. He's giving us a whole like tour of his house in in Minecraft, and he mentions again that his sister helped him build some of it, his sister did this, a lot of it is tied to the sister, and as he pans by this part of um this house, there's like a little post sign and it has this weird like link on it, like it's it's like a weird like strand of numbers, and people have found out that um it it is like a link to a Google Doc. Now I wasn't able to find this Google Doc, apparently it's closed off now, but inside of the Google Doc there was apparently a cipher that needed to be cracked. And once cracked, somebody put what the cipher or what the crack code was in the um the comment section here. Now, I guess this is just uh I hate this right here because I'm gonna have to read this whole thing for betum because I don't remember everything that's in it, and it's so fucking long, and I hate that this is just like a giant info dump into a fucking YouTube comment. Um, but here we are. So a user of Revealosmith22 said that the first part of the cipher in the doc translates to this. Hang on, I gotta eat a drink because I'm gonna dry up my throat. I was in fifth grade, my dad decided I had to start playing baseball. I had had absolutely zero interest in the sport, but by his reasoning, that was exactly why I needed to start playing. You'll be in middle school soon, and that's when kids uh start getting their clicks together for high school. If you don't start making friends now, you'll get left behind. He's he's not wrong. You you you gotta be prepared. Um, but uh gotta make you gotta make those connections.

SPEAKER_01 53:54

I mean, honestly, get an internship if you can.

SPEAKER_00 53:59

Right in middle school. That helps. Um so he says, I'm paraphrasing, of course, but I recall him saying something along those lines while driving me while he drove me to my first practice. I remember that day pretty vividly because uh we got there late and all the other kids were huddled up in front of the field waiting for us to arrive. Seeing them all turn in unison as my dad's truck pulled into the parking spot space closest to the dugout set me into a panic attack. Tears began to stream down my face before I could even finish questioning why I couldn't breathe. Uh I remember my dad trying to co- Oh I hear Okay.

unknown 54:34

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 54:35

Good deal. The hell did you do? Just fucking shove your finger into the blunder happened. I don't know, something it sounded like the fan kicked in or something. No idea. It was weird. Apparently. What the fuck? Um I remember my dad trying to coerce me in uh out of the car, but my desire to be literally anywhere else had more influence over me than whatever bribes or threats he threw at me. After a while of this, he stepped over to the coach and either apologized or asked for help getting me out of the car. Probably both. I don't remember the coach's name, but I do remember his eyes holding a deeper understanding of me than I've ever gleamed from my father or any other adult in my life before. He made an attempt to get me out of the passenger seat, and even though his approach was much gentler than my father's, I was completely inconsolable. Coach recognized this, and since he was already behind schedule, he decided that convincing my father to take me home would be much easier than convincing me to play. But he wasn't aware of how stubborn my father could be. I was never great at reading people, but it was pretty clear to me even then that the other kids did not like me. I couldn't blame them either. I was terrible at baseball, I was terrible at most things that involved teamwork or socializing, and the game ran on a balance of both. In their eyes, it must seem like I was doing nothing but embarrass myself and sour their experience. So I was never mad at them when they took their frustrations out on me. After a few weeks of practice and plenty of ridicule from my teammates, they decided it'll be funny to trick me uh into leaving the field and they could play without me. Um, goddamn, there's just so much fucking text here. Um I'm gonna yada yada yada this a smidge, but he goes on to say that they tricked him into being like, hey, there's balls down by the the the river. And the coach said, I better have all my balls back by the end of fucking class or by the end of the uh the practice, or otherwise I'm gonna be mad. So he went down there to collect the balls, even though he knew they weren't balls there, he just hung out by the river. Wild fucking shit there. Um, so uh his coach never saw him leave, but I do remember catching a look of surprise from him as I stepped back onto the field about an hour later. He held his gaze, returning it with a look that said, sorry. Uh his eyes replied in a kind of uh look of understanding, then benevolently turned away. For the rest of the spring, it became routine for my dad to drop me off practice, and once uh things were underway, uh, I would wander off the field and into the woods and play by myself, essentially. Um, he said that uh, you know, he was okay with his dad thinking he was out making friends when he was pretty much just chilling in the woods by himself. Um so he says, uh I hated my teammates for picking on me and I hated my coach for pitying me, most of all. I hated myself for being such a loser. The last time I left those woods, however, I taught myself forgiveness. I washed my resentment away in the viscous, viscous waters of Alawite Creek. Viscous! My dad just wanted what was best for me, so I couldn't blame him. My teammates were uh were probably just as self-conscious as I was and found validation. They're really cool with me, so I couldn't blame them either. Uh, my coach has probably lived through a similar experience when he was young, and his kindness was born from understanding, not pity. And so I also couldn't be mad at him. I was afraid of judgment, deathly, and couldn't get a grasp on why uh why exactly I carried this fear. So this is the most difficult concept for me to come to terms with. In the end, I couldn't fully forgive myself, but I held hope that someday I would. Uh, I was proud of my ability to turn a blind eye for those to uh those around me. Um then he goes on to say, this is when it gets kind of more real. And I'll take another drink here. Like I said, there's a lot, and I'm paraphrasing a lot too. This is fucking miserable. This is this is the part that I hate because we're getting a we're gonna get a lot of information here, and it kind of pisses me off that we had to go. This is my one gripe. I know we'll get to reviewing this later, but how are you gonna make me go to an entirely different channel just to info dump a fucking novel in the comment section? Come on. Like Defford County again, right? Anyway, I need to apologize to you all. I've been lying to you. I haven't been busy with work or school. I've been watching my tapes. As of Sunday this week, I've watched every single tape on my shelf. None of them hold a candle to private property or real estate sale. The only real discovery of note uh was a seemingly inconsistent, I don't know that word. Uh comedy real. Sure. I don't even think that's the right word, but I don't care. Comedy real for my friend Larry Columbo. When I first popped into the VCR a few weeks ago, I didn't think much of it. Nothing more than a familiar face. As I continue to sift through more and more tapes which contain nothing but uh long-forgotten home videos, something in the back of my mind told me to revisit this one. I didn't know exactly what I was looking for. I just knew that something uh had to be missing. My second watch was my first realization. Larry appeared on the news in 1986 after buying that top hat, and almost 10 years later, in 1995, he looks like he has an age today. Tried to rationalize this thinking maybe it was just uh edited the reels together in 95 and it was all filmed in the late 80s. But this couldn't be the case, however, because he referenced a slew of Jim Carrey movies which didn't come out until 94. Uh maybe he's just got good genes, I think. That makes much more sense than uh him just straight up not aging. On my third watch, I caught on to something much easier to miss. In the first clip, uh Larry refers to what he calls a loony bin down in Alawite. Uh while growing up, I loosely I was loosely aware of a mental health facility that existed somewhere in the woods on the edge of town. Whenever someone had their car stolen or garbage ransacked at night, it was common for the neighbors to make jokes about escaped uh patients from the facility being ones to blame. These accusations grounded themselves in reality much easier than their cousinly accusations towards Bigfoot or aliens do, which made them more frightening when I was younger. My relationship with the facility ended there. I'd never seen it, never looked into it, and I'd never really given it much. Facility. The facility! Did he get finger blasted? Um mostly go by the shirt. Um mostly out of fear driven into me by the authority figures of my life. Uh, that all changed this week. I looked up the facility on Google and found some information uh which has cost me a bit of sleep. The facility is named Sinclair Sinclair Memorial. Sinclair. We know that name. That's the guy who summoned the demon. It opened in 1987, one year after the suitcase demon. One year after the events of the estate sale tape. In case anyone reading this has not watched the tape or has uh forgotten some of the more intimate details within, the gentleman who conducted the ritual toward the end of the tape was named Randy Sinclair. If I hadn't continued digging, I probably would have written it off as a coincidence, but there are now too many quittances piling up for this not to mean something. I clicked on the link to the website, navigated to a tab showing images on the of the facility. I think I'll let the first image speak for itself. Once again, I recommend revisiting the estate sale tape, then following the link below and see if this looks familiar. Um now here's the thing there is no link below. Jesus Christ. So we're kind of just stuck there.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:06

How funny would it be if this is just the end of it?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:09

Yeah, right. Um but uh yeah, there's just there's no link below. I'm assuming um that has to be translated because this is just the first half, and people said the second half of the document doesn't translate with consistency. Uh the people found out that there's a keyword, and that keyword is consistency, that's how they were able to decipher everything, but it doesn't track, so they're waiting for a new keyword to come out.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:35

Oh, nice, okay. Yeah, there's there might be multiple ways to solve that, and maybe different keys give you different answers.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:42

Yeah, that yeah, that's possible. But that's kind of where we're that's kind of where we're at right

Ratings Fan Theories And Fixing The Plot

SPEAKER_00 1:02:48

now. Um, with tapes from the thrift store. Um it's at this point where we say, what do we think, boys? So far.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:01

Uh I it's still. I don't mind it. It could be worse. Um, I just don't have enough info about it, I guess. Like some of the effects are really nice. Um, it does like you were saying, Mike, it does capture like the the found footage aesthetic that I think they've been going for. Um yeah, aesthetically great, the plot they lost. No idea. No idea what to think.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:30

If they would have kept it where like the first the first tape is where you find that tape with like the demon summoning or whatever, and then as he's finding more tapes, they all they all involve something to do with that guy's like that that demon or something, that'd be a different story. But what does this purple goo have to do any do with anything?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:49

The river, the uh the creek I mean, like what to put this all together and then him even say himself, none of this has anything to do with the estate sale.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:59

Yeah, yeah, well, and why why we were doing this then right also I I also get that it makes sense for the plot a little bit to remove the privacy, the private property, and the estate sale video, but but that's like what content yeah, when you reference that in every other thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:22

The rest of this would be awful.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:24

When you reference that those two in every other video, and no one can watch those videos, how am I supposed to understand what's happening here? If if no one watched if you don't watch that nightmare video, you just can't get to those other videos. Why would you do that? Like, I know it makes sense in world, I guess, for your story, but in the real world, I can't understand your story without those two videos.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:48

I mean, maybe a story at this point, like I don't know. There's a bunch of happenings, but maybe like what's the purple goo? It feels like his writings about what's going on feel like him trying to decide what it's about in real time.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:05

Yeah, yeah. Like also the other uh the other option might be like maybe there is an active, like quote unquote player base that somebody like and they're uploading and deleting videos in concordance with like which things they've solved to like remove information to make it harder or add information to make it easier.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:27

I can see that, but also to the rest of us and all this whole thing combined is maybe like the videos are like maybe like 30 minutes total with everything, you know what I mean? And yeah, so like with that last comment I just had as well, you don't have to info dump on me and then hold my hand. Like, I'm not trying to sound mean. I like I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna give this like a solid like six and a half for like aesthetic purposes alone. I think I kind of nailed the aesthetic, so it's gonna get a six and a half for me, but like. I I'm I'm a little grived because you don't have to hold my hand. Like during that whole thing, he he's just like, Oh, if it Larry Columbo, we know whoa, we know that guy from the beginning. He bought the thing. Yeah, I know. It had his name. Oh, it's the Sinclair facility. That's that that was named after Randy Sinclair. Yeah, I know it had his name there. You don't have to hold my hand, dude. Grown ass man. Yeah. If if your if your target audience is like um puzzle solvers, because he's trying to fit in ARG elements here, it seems like with like his painting and ciphers. If your main target, yeah, if your main target are those people, you don't gotta hold their hands, dog. They'll piece this shit together just fucking fine.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:41

Now I will you say that, but I feel like we had an experience and we might be able to taught ourselves as slight cipher breakers, but there was a point in time that I never taught of myself as anything, I just like them. You've been pretty, pretty self-proclaimed as I'm a moron. But no, I mean we we had to get spoon-fed some answers here and there.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:02

Yeah, but it's also certain energy, it's also different because, like, I I don't we weren't the ones I I don't know, I feel like that's a different th atmosphere because again, we we we enjoy analog horrors, we enjoy ARGs, but never never at any point we're just like, don't give me that face. Okay, I enjoy analog horrors. Thank you. Um, but like never once were we just like, yeah, we're kind of the professionals when it comes to hacking and solving ARGs, but like this guy is trying to make stuff for those type of people. I feel I don't know. I just don't hold my hand.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:38

I don't think this needs to be doing anything it's doing, and I don't think it should be doing it. It feels like it feels like this guy made a good video, it got more attention than he expected, and all of a sudden he was like, I need to do something with this, and then he threw together this haphazard, like, oh, maybe this can be an ARG thing, and it's just not working out, is how I feel about this. Yeah, if you're gonna do this, in my opinion, take what's good, roll back, start over.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:10

I think if he would have just if he would just focused on like the mystery of like that like alloway creek or whatever, and how it's like it's oh hell yeah, I think that would have been fine. Just do that. But we have this purple, we have this purple goo, we have a missing person, we have this guy that summoned a hat man, and that hat man might be this man that everyone hated, who was, I guess, like an Aleister Crowley-esque figure. We also have like mentioning cryptids and stuff, which I know are part of this, but he mentions that it's in the creepy area. Yeah, um, we got a mental asylum now that is apparently becoming something. We have this Larry Colombo who is in two videos now, so I'm assuming he's kind of important. Um, and this is why I've seen before.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:55

Matthew, you said that movie uh uh butterfly kisses. No, it's about a hat man, it's a cryptid hat man that lives like I want to say lives because he's not alive, but like dwells in a tunnel, and he comes around if you summon him, and then he follows you basically until he gets close enough to kill you. I feel like this person watched that and said, Ooh. That's mistaken different.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:20

I just think there's too many plot lines here. And Matthew, I think this is why I said before, when you're like, oh, the hat man's like gathering souls and stuffing them in the suitcase. I took it as he's just trying to collect his things because we focus now on Larry Colombo, who has the hat that once belonged to him. So that's why I'm like, yeah, that's why I'm like, maybe maybe he got summoned and he's trying to get his accoutrements back or something. I don't know. Um but I don't know because the plot got lost.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:48

I think this would have been better served as just a series of videos that don't even necessarily need to be connected in any way, like VHS. Yeah, like I have said in the past that like when we were doing um the DNR videos, that like I would prefer you have a plan and like execute on it. I think this is a rare situation where the content is strong enough that if you just made it different things of the same type that are vaguely around the lore of like these are weird tapes that you found in this area because something's wrong with this area, even if they're not necessarily interconnected by some like intricate plot, it would be just weird things from that town, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:38

You could see like a character from one of the other videos in the background of a different video, and like that's how that is like the only connection, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:45

Or no, as like just fan service or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:47

Like you could combine you combine it all together and be like at the end of it, you you can mention that like oh yeah, this this creek water is weird, and at the end, you can you can tie it all together. Well, all these weird things are happening around this town because like the town's getting its water source from where this creek is or some shit, and so it's causing people to act up or some shit. You know what I mean? Like, there's craziness, there's stuff there too.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:11

We don't need together, it's just like deep mystery. Like, just keep making just keep making videos that are the same quality as the first one that are just different encrypted or whatever, and this would be way better.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:22

I I agree, but yeah, putting them all together, especially because like the whole point is that you found these random tapes at a thrift store. So for you to find stuff that goes together is miraculous. Yeah, yeah, like but yeah, I agree. Again, I'm not gonna knock this guy too much because obviously it's a young dude making these. Um, and and this could be his first thing. I don't know. I don't make anything, it's hard years old, yeah. But again, I'm giving it like a six and a half, which in my opinion is pretty high off of like the aesthetic alone. I think they absolutely nailed that found footage aesthetic. Um, and yeah, you can tell a lot of effort went into it. I mean, for fuck's sake, like we're talking about that that arrow bit. Yeah, it looks like they let they legit shot a fucking arrow at him, which even even if it's like on a line, that's still like dangerous as shit. So props to you, dude. That's that's commitment to the craft. Honestly, yeah, it's commitment to your craft, which shows you have some form of passion for this. So you're gonna get a six and a half for me.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:20

Dog. Dog, dog, yeah. I'm probably around us between somewhere between six and seven, so I'll say six and a half. Um, I like just like Mike said, I loved the found footage. Um, and ever since Matt, ever since you mentioned the VHS movies, um, I think back to the very first one where they're like doing really shitty stuff, and then they break into that person's house where they find all the tapes. Like it's that that when as soon as they start breaking the glass on that house to try to get into it, that's when like the aesthetic that's in these videos, that's what it reminded me of. And I really, really, really enjoyed that because it seemed very, very real.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:56

I forgot one thing too. Sorry, on that Marshall B crafting page, which I'm assuming because it's I'm assuming is Ben, but like, why would he make another channel? Again, that's just another thing that you didn't need.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:10

Ash flogs all over again.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:11

I guess, yeah. But the Marshall one has a community post as well that says strawberry, strawberry or mint every time, having it now. Good, I say vanilla extract, really yummy. Would recommend one now. Good with iced tea, homie. And uh if you put all of the uh um oh and then uh good iced tea, homie, might eat, which you take might eat, which if you take the first letter of all the that that whole post together, it says something is very wrong with me. Ah there we go. Yeah. Um but yeah, again, doing too much. It's Matt Matt, what are you what are you giving this? Yeah, it's trying very hard.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:52

If I if they had done what I said they should have done, and I was rating it on the quality of the two videos you can no longer watch, I'd give it a seven. But as it stands, I'm rating the project as a whole a four. I I really don't think they've executed on this at all. But I don't so I'll average it out and I'll give it what's in between what's in between that five and a half.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:28

Yeah.

unknown 1:14:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:30

Yeah, I'll give it a five and a half. So but I don't think it's too late to rescue it because I think this is new enough. I think you can undo what you've done and go back to what you should have done.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:44

And just scratch scrap the whole thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:46

Just be like, I don't know. Never mind. Update, and just start off. And just start uploading new cryptid videos.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:56

The creek killed everybody. Hi, my name is Tom.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:58

I'm uploading now because I think I'm Ben's brother. The first one was very good, and you should just do more stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:06

Figure out a way to steer back into that, and you can figure out I I just don't understand why he's doing like an ARG thing, too. Because the whole the premise is so simple. I found these tapes. Look how weird they are. Why are you like, I'm painting now, and there's a cipher in it. I don't get it, I really don't get it. And he's right, but the thing is, like, some of it's pretty smart because he just said he straight up is just like, I've been reading a lot of Sherlock Holmes. Look at this painting I made. You would not know what that painting is if you didn't catch him saying Sherlock Holmes, because it's a direct reference to Sherlock Holmes, and that's where you get the cipher, is from that story. Yeah, so like yeah, he's smart, he's really smart with how he's going up about some of these things. It's just it's not this, yeah, this ain't the place to do it. If you want to do shit like that, start something else.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:49

Like, yeah, this is ciphers because like you're not trying to if you're doing this kind of like unfiction where you're trying to maintain character and immersion, and then also you're dropping ciphers. To me, that hints that like the things you're saying in those videos need to be hidden, and the things you want to tell us is actually in those ciphers. There's no like bifurcation of you, like you're not you can't talk about this on the video or like whatever. There's there's somebody after you that's a YouTube executive that's like watching your every move, like you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:21

That's just there's no reason, and it's breaking the north wall too, because like this whole thing is just him talking and be like, Yeah, I found these tapes, isn't that weird? Yada yada yada. But now you're introducing these ciphers where it's like, Can you crack this? Huh? It's like, why am I involved? Why am I here? This is your problem. You're the one in Alohite drinking nasty creek water. This is you problem, not me. Yeah, I don't know. And this is not me trying to bash the dude because again, I see some talent here. Like, this is very impressive, like what you've done with the found footage stuff. So I want to I want to just straight up say, like, I can see this going so good, but you just gotta find that plot, homie. And I believe in you. I know you can. You just gotta find that plot. Um, bring it back, guys. I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:00

Apparently, I am needed upstairs for a bit. So that's my thoughts. Yeah, absolutely. Wrap this stuff up. I've got something I gotta go take care of. Uh, I'll be back in a few minutes, okay?

SPEAKER_00 1:17:10

Yep. But yeah, that's that I'm I'm I'm pretty much that's all I gotta

Final Thoughts Voicemail Tease And Outro

SPEAKER_00 1:17:14

say. Uh good stuff, but keep keep making this Ben or whatever your actual name is. Keep making stuff because I I believe in you.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:20

Yeah, I just you started off with a lot of momentum, and yeah, I mean, he even acknowledges that himself because he's like, oh, this got a lot of attention. And that's because what you initially did was very good. And I just see the momentum rolling off, and you just gotta steer, you gotta steer it back onto the reels.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:40

You were flying, you're flying down I-88 going 90 miles per hour, then you hit that rush hour traffic, and it came to a and then you were like, I know a back road.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:51

And you shouldn't have done that.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:53

Shouldn't have done that, shouldn't have turned off. Um, well, yeah, that that's what we're thinking of. Uh tapes from the thrift shop. Go check it out, everyone. I again I highly recommend it. It's still fun to watch, and those two videos alone are fucking great. Um, I will also say uh check out our Patreon, patreon.com slash dilutypod, or go to our website diluty.com. You can become a member and see some cool new bonus shit, and then also get some merch. Um, there is also a voicemail we got a couple like a couple weeks back that I keep forgetting to play, so we'll probably play that at the end of the episode here. Um, and it's very nice. And I just want to uh shout out to I think it's Scafia, Scafia, um, who sent it to us in our email. It's uh dulypod at gmail.com. And uh it's very nice. So thank you for that. Very thoughtful words in there. Um if you find some tapes at the thrift store and you play them and it shows me kissing your dad. Uh no, you didn't, uh put it back. What do you got for the people?

SPEAKER_03 1:19:02

Uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:05

Watch a Jim Carrey movie and remember what his face used to look like before he got replaced. Because the government will try to cover it up eventually.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:21

No modern news for you.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:23

What?

SPEAKER_00 1:19:24

No modern news for me.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:25

Uh we already you already crashed out about how awful everything is to begin with.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:30

And I think Yeah, the people didn't hear that before. The people didn't hear that before. I went on like a 15-minute tangent before all this. I just I dumped on these boys like just like the damn broke. It was upsetting, but here we are. Um thank you very much for listening as always, everybody. You have a blessed rest of your day.